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Posted: 5/3/2024 4:07:15 PM EDT
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Thank you OP!
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Posted: 5/3/2024 4:10:24 PM EDT
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Great resolution so far.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 4:24:55 PM EDT
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Seersucker is great.
I should get a new seersucker suit. Where’s that confounded catmemereadinnewspaperjpg? Congrats! |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 7:03:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scuba_steve: FANTASTIC! And thanks for fighting for your fellow Virginians! Much appreciated.  But this also comes to mind   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZnCYtuZtoYHanlons' Razor does not have a place in Virginia for the foreseeable future. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 7:09:53 PM EDT
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Great news OP! And seersucker, Hooters Ashleigh and a beer, what a Friday!
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Posted: 5/3/2024 7:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3: Great news OP! And seersucker, Hooters Ashleigh and a beer, what a Friday! Phase 2 will be better, and I imagine more challenging. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 7:41:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: killingmachine123]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: No, different one. This guy was a really dialed in smart guy Hon. John Tran. He knew I was in the right before I spoke Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The judge apologized to me and entered an order granting the license. The judge was well aware of the law, and began the case asking if I had a current license. I informed him I did and included two copies of the license with my application. He said the Clerk's office does a great job but they're not perfect and sometimes research can be difficult because the files are sealed. He apologized for the county wasting my time and effort. I will still be following up with VCDL. Was it the same judge that denied your initial submission? No, different one. This guy was a really dialed in smart guy Hon. John Tran. He knew I was in the right before I spoke Congrats. Glad that it was handled well, albeit after the fact. It is kind of neat that Johnny Tran was your judge.  The Fast and the Furious (2001) - Meet Johnny Tran Scene (3/10) | Movieclips ETA: Wrong video... |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 7:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By killingmachine123: Congrats. Glad that it was handled well, albeit after the fact. It is kind of neat that Johnny Tran was your judge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hxOoM0-NJIETA: Wrong video... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By killingmachine123: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The judge apologized to me and entered an order granting the license. The judge was well aware of the law, and began the case asking if I had a current license. I informed him I did and included two copies of the license with my application. He said the Clerk's office does a great job but they're not perfect and sometimes research can be difficult because the files are sealed. He apologized for the county wasting my time and effort. I will still be following up with VCDL. Was it the same judge that denied your initial submission? No, different one. This guy was a really dialed in smart guy Hon. John Tran. He knew I was in the right before I spoke Congrats. Glad that it was handled well, albeit after the fact. It is kind of neat that Johnny Tran was your judge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hxOoM0-NJIETA: Wrong video... VCDL lawyer said Fairfax court is a very interesting place. There are a couple shitlibs, but per him there's a bunch of old guys that legit just are 100% all about the law and the tradition. I was prepared for either but got the latter. The Commonwealth attorney just looked confused and retarded and kinda just did what he said. They didn't really fight against me either, but I imagine you wouldn't if the judge is making the Plaintiff's case for them before they even speak. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 7:58:34 PM EDT
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Congrats. Hope your next round goes as well as this one.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:25:40 PM EDT
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40 years ago I had a seersucker bathrobe made from that same material. LOL.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:31:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrmissem: Congrats. Hope your next round goes as well as this one. Thanks man, I'll post the transcript when I get it and I'll keep you guys updated with talks I plan to have with both VCDL as well as Virginian Constitutional lawyers. Even if it's a mistake; and again the judge was very reasonable, there needs to be something put in place that every person can point to without needing to hire a lawyer. This will be especially important in turbulent counties like Fairfax, Arlington, Loudoun, and Henrico. We absolutely need to get the small victories to offset the small losses. We cannot assume or count on a refuge policy in how we deal with firearms rights. Unsurprisingly, the Virginia Constitution is better than the federal one in this manner. That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:38:22 PM EDT
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The cities are getting control of our legislature, there's no doubt that is a huge problem. But I think there's a VERY strong legal tradition in Virginia that requires more attention and action. VCDL is doing their part, but I also think a large part of it just needs to be us getting off our ass and taking the time.
VCDL got a lot of illegal "no guns" signs taken down in parks, but really the citizens of that town should do that. The more we do the small stuff, the more money VCDL has to do the expensive stuff like fight stuff in Appellate Courts and the Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court. That is my thought on it, anyways. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 9:03:32 PM EDT
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BTW this is a pretty cool Fairfax judge as well from 20 years ago. There's still a few here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/11/11/bill-a-response-to-fairfax-judge-who-threw-out-dwi-cases/5d3a288e-5ab3-4c61-87f3-8e7ddd326a92/ |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 9:12:08 PM EDT
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Congrats.
Continue to do the needful! |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:01:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By killingmachine123: Congrats. Glad that it was handled well, albeit after the fact. It is kind of neat that Johnny Tran was your judge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hxOoM0-NJIETA: Wrong video... My only experience with Fairfax ended up with a few fire marshals coming up here to witness some tests. I'm sure their expectations were that we were pulling some kind of scam or fraud, by the time they got done looking at our data and testing, we at least could work with them. They drove Chevy Corsicas with Recaro seats. I still remember that and it's still weird as shit. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:15:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By W_E_G: Congrats. Continue to do the needful! Thanks brother, we need to shoot again soon |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:49:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Thanks brother, we need to shoot again soon You got my number. Hit me up! |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:58:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The cities are getting control of our legislature, there's no doubt that is a huge problem. But I think there's a VERY strong legal tradition in Virginia that requires more attention and action. VCDL is doing their part, but I also think a large part of it just needs to be us getting off our ass and taking the time. VCDL got a lot of illegal "no guns" signs taken down in parks, but really the citizens of that town should do that. The more we do the small stuff, the more money VCDL has to do the expensive stuff like fight stuff in Appellate Courts and the Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court. That is my thought on it, anyways. This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:37:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The cities are getting control of our legislature, there's no doubt that is a huge problem. But I think there's a VERY strong legal tradition in Virginia that requires more attention and action. VCDL is doing their part, but I also think a large part of it just needs to be us getting off our ass and taking the time. VCDL got a lot of illegal "no guns" signs taken down in parks, but really the citizens of that town should do that. The more we do the small stuff, the more money VCDL has to do the expensive stuff like fight stuff in Appellate Courts and the Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court. That is my thought on it, anyways. This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. I think they smashed most of them up already, that was a few years ago |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:00:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The cities are getting control of our legislature, there's no doubt that is a huge problem. But I think there's a VERY strong legal tradition in Virginia that requires more attention and action. VCDL is doing their part, but I also think a large part of it just needs to be us getting off our ass and taking the time. VCDL got a lot of illegal "no guns" signs taken down in parks, but really the citizens of that town should do that. The more we do the small stuff, the more money VCDL has to do the expensive stuff like fight stuff in Appellate Courts and the Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court. That is my thought on it, anyways. This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. Well, there was this, which you should totally not do, even in Minecraft. Also, the NRA is suing Fairfax over the parks ban. The case is LaFave vs. County of Fairfax. Outside of that, I think Arlington intentionally put their signs on cardboard stock that melts in the rain so they could say they did something but not have to deal with it. That's per my conversations with some Arlington PD in meatspace. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:07:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbg0001: Well, there was this, which you should totally not do, even in Minecraft. Also, the NRA is suing Fairfax over the parks ban. The case is LaFave vs. County of Fairfax. Outside of that, I think Arlington intentionally put their signs on cardboard stock that melts in the rain so they could say they did something but not have to deal with it. That's per my conversations with some Arlington PD in meatspace. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbg0001: Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The cities are getting control of our legislature, there's no doubt that is a huge problem. But I think there's a VERY strong legal tradition in Virginia that requires more attention and action. VCDL is doing their part, but I also think a large part of it just needs to be us getting off our ass and taking the time. VCDL got a lot of illegal "no guns" signs taken down in parks, but really the citizens of that town should do that. The more we do the small stuff, the more money VCDL has to do the expensive stuff like fight stuff in Appellate Courts and the Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court. That is my thought on it, anyways. This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. Well, there was this, which you should totally not do, even in Minecraft. Also, the NRA is suing Fairfax over the parks ban. The case is LaFave vs. County of Fairfax. Outside of that, I think Arlington intentionally put their signs on cardboard stock that melts in the rain so they could say they did something but not have to deal with it. That's per my conversations with some Arlington PD in meatspace. Much obliged. I do remember that situation with folks shooting at the signs. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:26:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: BTW this is a pretty cool Fairfax judge as well from 20 years ago. There's still a few here. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/11/11/bill-a-response-to-fairfax-judge-who-threw-out-dwi-cases/5d3a288e-5ab3-4c61-87f3-8e7ddd326a92/ Do you know if the law they proposed passed? Seems like a b.s. temper tantrum to me but I couldn't find anything on the judge-shopping law |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:33:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: Much obliged. I do remember that situation with folks shooting at the signs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By mbg0001: Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The cities are getting control of our legislature, there's no doubt that is a huge problem. But I think there's a VERY strong legal tradition in Virginia that requires more attention and action. VCDL is doing their part, but I also think a large part of it just needs to be us getting off our ass and taking the time. VCDL got a lot of illegal "no guns" signs taken down in parks, but really the citizens of that town should do that. The more we do the small stuff, the more money VCDL has to do the expensive stuff like fight stuff in Appellate Courts and the Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court. That is my thought on it, anyways. This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. Well, there was this, which you should totally not do, even in Minecraft. Also, the NRA is suing Fairfax over the parks ban. The case is LaFave vs. County of Fairfax. Outside of that, I think Arlington intentionally put their signs on cardboard stock that melts in the rain so they could say they did something but not have to deal with it. That's per my conversations with some Arlington PD in meatspace. Much obliged. I do remember that situation with folks shooting at the signs. Which reminds me - at the FFX board meeting where they took up the gun ban, the vote was to "investigate the cost." IIRC the signs started going up before the next meeting. Which would mean they pulled money unofficially from somewhere to pay for them, like the schools budget. We ought to FOIA that. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:36:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: towerofpower94]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbg0001: Well, there was this, which you should totally not do, even in Minecraft. Also, the NRA is suing Fairfax over the parks ban. The case is LaFave vs. County of Fairfax. Outside of that, I think Arlington intentionally put their signs on cardboard stock that melts in the rain so they could say they did something but not have to deal with it. That's per my conversations with some Arlington PD in meatspace. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbg0001: Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The cities are getting control of our legislature, there's no doubt that is a huge problem. But I think there's a VERY strong legal tradition in Virginia that requires more attention and action. VCDL is doing their part, but I also think a large part of it just needs to be us getting off our ass and taking the time. VCDL got a lot of illegal "no guns" signs taken down in parks, but really the citizens of that town should do that. The more we do the small stuff, the more money VCDL has to do the expensive stuff like fight stuff in Appellate Courts and the Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court. That is my thought on it, anyways. This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. Well, there was this, which you should totally not do, even in Minecraft. Also, the NRA is suing Fairfax over the parks ban. The case is LaFave vs. County of Fairfax. Outside of that, I think Arlington intentionally put their signs on cardboard stock that melts in the rain so they could say they did something but not have to deal with it. That's per my conversations with some Arlington PD in meatspace. The signs at the park down the street from my house were gone in less than 72hrs and have never been replaced. ETA: I'm in Alexandria |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:42:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: The signs at the park down the street from my house were gone in less than 72hrs and have never been replaced. ETA: I'm in Alexandria I thought the waterfront and Torpedo Factory area had permanent signs, as did the park next to it where people keep getting robbed at gunpoint. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:43:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iamthesgt: Do you know if the law they proposed passed? Seems like a b.s. temper tantrum to me but I couldn't find anything on the judge-shopping law Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iamthesgt: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: BTW this is a pretty cool Fairfax judge as well from 20 years ago. There's still a few here. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/11/11/bill-a-response-to-fairfax-judge-who-threw-out-dwi-cases/5d3a288e-5ab3-4c61-87f3-8e7ddd326a92/ Do you know if the law they proposed passed? Seems like a b.s. temper tantrum to me but I couldn't find anything on the judge-shopping law I don't. I just remember that case both because the judge has an AWESOME view of traditional Virginian law, and it's just hilarious because his name is a total Irish stereotype and he was tossing alcohol charges.  Of chose Ian McFlarehty doesn't like booze crimes. 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:44:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: Which reminds me - at the FFX board meeting where they took up the gun ban, the vote was to "investigate the cost." IIRC the signs started going up before the next meeting. Which would mean they pulled money unofficially from somewhere to pay for them, like the schools budget. We ought to FOIA that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By mbg0001: Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The cities are getting control of our legislature, there's no doubt that is a huge problem. But I think there's a VERY strong legal tradition in Virginia that requires more attention and action. VCDL is doing their part, but I also think a large part of it just needs to be us getting off our ass and taking the time. VCDL got a lot of illegal "no guns" signs taken down in parks, but really the citizens of that town should do that. The more we do the small stuff, the more money VCDL has to do the expensive stuff like fight stuff in Appellate Courts and the Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court. That is my thought on it, anyways. This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. Well, there was this, which you should totally not do, even in Minecraft. Also, the NRA is suing Fairfax over the parks ban. The case is LaFave vs. County of Fairfax. Outside of that, I think Arlington intentionally put their signs on cardboard stock that melts in the rain so they could say they did something but not have to deal with it. That's per my conversations with some Arlington PD in meatspace. Much obliged. I do remember that situation with folks shooting at the signs. Which reminds me - at the FFX board meeting where they took up the gun ban, the vote was to "investigate the cost." IIRC the signs started going up before the next meeting. Which would mean they pulled money unofficially from somewhere to pay for them, like the schools budget. We ought to FOIA that. Now that is interesting. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:46:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: apexcrusade]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: I thought the waterfront and Torpedo Factory area had permanent signs, as did the park next to it where people keep getting robbed at gunpoint. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: The signs at the park down the street from my house were gone in less than 72hrs and have never been replaced. ETA: I'm in Alexandria I thought the waterfront and Torpedo Factory area had permanent signs, as did the park next to it where people keep getting robbed at gunpoint. Isn't Old Town pretty much off limits if carrying? I used to go there on a regular basis but don't want to feed the commies any longer since this BS regulation was put into place. It's the 'adjacent streets' provision that has everything screwed. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:46:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: I thought the waterfront and Torpedo Factory area had permanent signs, as did the park next to it where people keep getting robbed at gunpoint. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: The signs at the park down the street from my house were gone in less than 72hrs and have never been replaced. ETA: I'm in Alexandria I thought the waterfront and Torpedo Factory area had permanent signs, as did the park next to it where people keep getting robbed at gunpoint. The Torpedo Factory had non official signs years before, but I think they were phrased as "please don't", rather than state guns were prohibited outright. That said, I haven't been down there in years, and it wouldn't surprise me if they were freelancing their own signs. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:48:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: Isn't Old Town pretty much off limits if carrying? I used to go there on a regular basis but don't want to feed the commies any longer since this BS regulation was put into place. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: The signs at the park down the street from my house were gone in less than 72hrs and have never been replaced. ETA: I'm in Alexandria I thought the waterfront and Torpedo Factory area had permanent signs, as did the park next to it where people keep getting robbed at gunpoint. Isn't Old Town pretty much off limits if carrying? I used to go there on a regular basis but don't want to feed the commies any longer since this BS regulation was put into place. No - the park in front of city hall is posted as conspicuously as student driver signs are on a Honda Odyssey driven my a 60 year old Karen. I guess it's to keep them from bitching. And the park areas including the Torpedo factory. They can't ban it on the regular sidewalks yet. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:53:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: I thought the waterfront and Torpedo Factory area had permanent signs, as did the park next to it where people keep getting robbed at gunpoint. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: The signs at the park down the street from my house were gone in less than 72hrs and have never been replaced. ETA: I'm in Alexandria I thought the waterfront and Torpedo Factory area had permanent signs, as did the park next to it where people keep getting robbed at gunpoint. I'm in Del Ray, and don't spend much time in Old Town, so you may be correct. The signs that went up in DR were the corrugated plastic carboard ones zip tied to fences. Alexandria was giddy once preemption was removed so they could pass all the "feel safe" bullshit laws they wanted to, all while still needing to have a PD camera and Shot Spotter in the "affordable housing" projects near the Post Office on Wythe. Seems gunshots are an issue in that area, but I don't see no gun signs, so that must be the cause.... |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:58:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: I'm in Del Ray, and don't spend much time in Old Town, so you may be correct. The signs that went up in DR were the corrugated plastic carboard ones zip tied to fences. Alexandria was giddy once preemption was removed so they could pass all the "feel safe" bullshit laws they wanted to, all while still needing to have a PD camera and Shot Spotter in the "affordable housing" projects near the Post Office on Wythe. Seems gunshots are an issue in that area, but I don't see no gun signs, so that must be the cause.... They started with Kinko's prints in 3 ring plastic sheet covers, went to corrugated plastic. I didn't inspect any of the signs last time my wife dragged me through there. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:29:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: No - the park in front of city hall is posted as conspicuously as student driver signs are on a Honda Odyssey driven my a 60 year old Karen. I guess it's to keep them from bitching. And the park areas including the Torpedo factory. They can't ban it on the regular sidewalks yet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: The signs at the park down the street from my house were gone in less than 72hrs and have never been replaced. ETA: I'm in Alexandria I thought the waterfront and Torpedo Factory area had permanent signs, as did the park next to it where people keep getting robbed at gunpoint. Isn't Old Town pretty much off limits if carrying? I used to go there on a regular basis but don't want to feed the commies any longer since this BS regulation was put into place. No - the park in front of city hall is posted as conspicuously as student driver signs are on a Honda Odyssey driven my a 60 year old Karen. I guess it's to keep them from bitching. And the park areas including the Torpedo factory. They can't ban it on the regular sidewalks yet. I know there are some specific rules about signage - needs to be clearly posted at all entrances, etc. I thought sidewalks were in the 'adjacent street' areas - the ban includes streets/areas adjacent to permitted events or something and Old Town probably has a myriad of their own rules. Bottom line is it would be a clusterfox to get jammed up due to the vagaries of the ordinance. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:46:42 AM EDT
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Just got caught up. Well done, Whiskers.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:49:24 AM EDT
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Whiskers the cat didn't kill himself!
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:53:10 AM EDT
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As a product of Fairfax Country Public Schools, I applaud you.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:11:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mbg0001]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: I know there are some specific rules about signage - needs to be clearly posted at all entrances, etc. I thought sidewalks were in the 'adjacent street' areas - the ban includes streets/areas adjacent to permitted events or something and Old Town probably has a myriad of their own rules. Bottom line is it would be a clusterfox to get jammed up due to the vagaries of the ordinance. Thing about most of the Fairfax Parks is that it's almost impossible to post every entrance. There are also issues with them legally posting on parks where they cross jurisdictional boundaries. Not that they can't, but they need to coordinate with the other municipalities, which they haven't. So all the parks where residential backyards have their own entrances are theoretically exempt. As is the CCT, though they do post parts of it. All that said, I don't think it would stop an arrest, but might prevail in court. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:03:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbg0001: Thing about most of the Fairfax Parks is that it's almost impossible to post every entrance. There are also issues with them legally posting on parks where they cross jurisdictional boundaries. Not that they can't, but they need to coordinate with the other municipalities, which they haven't. So all the parks where residential backyards have their own entrances are theoretically exempt. As is the CCT, though they do post parts of it. All that said, I don't think it would stop an arrest, but might prevail in court. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbg0001: Originally Posted By apexcrusade: I know there are some specific rules about signage - needs to be clearly posted at all entrances, etc. I thought sidewalks were in the 'adjacent street' areas - the ban includes streets/areas adjacent to permitted events or something and Old Town probably has a myriad of their own rules. Bottom line is it would be a clusterfox to get jammed up due to the vagaries of the ordinance. Thing about most of the Fairfax Parks is that it's almost impossible to post every entrance. There are also issues with them legally posting on parks where they cross jurisdictional boundaries. Not that they can't, but they need to coordinate with the other municipalities, which they haven't. So all the parks where residential backyards have their own entrances are theoretically exempt. As is the CCT, though they do post parts of it. All that said, I don't think it would stop an arrest, but might prevail in court. Rumor has it that in most cases the police departments have been ordered to trespass people out, rather than charge the misdemeanor and seize the firearm. This might be because it's easier, or because the DA's know that things will get struck down if someone otherwise non-criminal would get standing to challenge the law. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:43:28 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbg0001: Well, there was this, which you should totally not do, even in Minecraft. Also, the NRA is suing Fairfax over the parks ban. The case is LaFave vs. County of Fairfax. Outside of that, I think Arlington intentionally put their signs on cardboard stock that melts in the rain so they could say they did something but not have to deal with it. That's per my conversations with some Arlington PD in meatspace. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbg0001: Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The cities are getting control of our legislature, there's no doubt that is a huge problem. But I think there's a VERY strong legal tradition in Virginia that requires more attention and action. VCDL is doing their part, but I also think a large part of it just needs to be us getting off our ass and taking the time. VCDL got a lot of illegal "no guns" signs taken down in parks, but really the citizens of that town should do that. The more we do the small stuff, the more money VCDL has to do the expensive stuff like fight stuff in Appellate Courts and the Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court. That is my thought on it, anyways. This has been one of the most annoying features of the Dem takeover several years back. Is there info on the VCDL site about the removal of signs at parks? Point me in the right direction for more information. I haven't heard about that effort and I'm pretty dialed in on things here. Well, there was this, which you should totally not do, even in Minecraft. Also, the NRA is suing Fairfax over the parks ban. The case is LaFave vs. County of Fairfax. Outside of that, I think Arlington intentionally put their signs on cardboard stock that melts in the rain so they could say they did something but not have to deal with it. That's per my conversations with some Arlington PD in meatspace. I have never heard of “The Virginia Gray Ranks.” What proof is there that any 2A group did this?  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 6:10:06 PM EDT
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Congratulations!
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Posted: 5/6/2024 6:55:01 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By W_E_G: I have never heard of “The Virginia Gray Ranks.” What proof is there that any 2A group did this? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/IMG_3063_jpeg-3207257.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/IMG_3064_jpeg-3207258.JPG Are you implying that an immigration and extremism reporter might not get the facts straight before publishing a scandalous allegation? Harrumph I say. Harrumph. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:32:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:39:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The judge apologized to me and entered an order granting the license. The judge was well aware of the law, and began the case asking if I had a current license. I informed him I did and included two copies of the license with my application. He said the Clerk's office does a great job but they're not perfect and sometimes research can be difficult because the files are sealed. He apologized for the county wasting my time and effort. I will still be following up with VCDL. @WhiskersTheCat I wanted to publicly thank you in this thread. Congratulations on putting up a fight for all our 2A rights, regardless of which county we live in.  
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:09:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ambridge77: @WhiskersTheCat I wanted to publicly thank you in this thread. Congratulations on putting up a fight for all our 2A rights, regardless of which county we live in. Right now nothing of value has happened. Yet |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:26:45 PM EDT
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So I submitted my permit renewal with only 40 days until expiration and three days before expiration. I received a denial letter because I forgot to check one of the question boxes so I filled out the form they gave me and got it notarized answering the question and mailed it back and didn’t have a permit for a week and a half, but my replacement came today.
I’m Fairfax county. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:52:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currahee: As a product of Fairfax Country Public Schools, I applaud you. Hayfield High. ‘76 |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:01:19 PM EDT
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 I like the the judge who agreed with me is the judge who signed both the order and permit. I'm still waiting on my transcript, I should probably email them. I'll get that to VCDL whenever it arrives. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:10:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20240518_125813-3217330.jpg I like the the judge who agreed with me is the judge who signed both the order and permit. I'm still waiting on my transcript, I should probably email them. I'll get that to VCDL whenever it arrives. Would be cooler if the judge that signed your denial paperwork had to sign this one. Way to see it through. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 4:19:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: am6186]
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Whiskers,
I received my approved permit yesterday in the mail; dated ETA 5/13/2024. Hopefully what you did "corrected" the "error" at the clerks office :) Thanks again! Fairfax County as well |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 4:25:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By am6186: Whiskers, I received my approved permit yesterday in the mail; dated ETA 5/13/2024. Hopefully what you did "corrected" the "error" at the clerks office :) Thanks again! Fairfax County as well I'll be sending mine in soon |
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