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Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:12:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
This judge needs your class on Virginia thinking.
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He will get it if he doesn't send me my permit.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:12:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Godspeed.
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QFT!

I'm glad I moved from Ffx Co. for the last time.

@backbencher

What asshole county in TX resembles Ffx Co., VA the most?

If y'all have one that does, nuke it. You'll be better off.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:12:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Is the Richmond-2020 militia being called up?
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:12:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By akethan:
Move to a free state
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I am in one. And this is what we call fighting.

I could easily get it by doing what they asked, but I will not.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:14:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
I have had a concealed weapon license for a very long time. Today I received this letter for my renewal.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20240411_191517-3185220.jpg

This is my response.

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If they don't issue it I'm going to court.
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I love your response.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:14:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DarkLordVader:
Is the Richmond-2020 militia being called up?
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Nope.

He will probably issue it. And I won't get an apology but that's fine.

If they reject it then we're going to court and we're going big. Spidey will HELOC for SPY stock, I will HELOC for sue the government in a heartbeat.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:15:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

I have other documents to prove competence, but they will not get any of them.

Because he broke the law. I imagine they will issue it, but I'm really angry right now so I'm already plotting legal strategies.

You do not appease evil, you fight it.
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So a lawyer, a young priest, and an old priest, are in a court in Fairfax....
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:15:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:


@mbg0001

Thoughts from mbg0001?
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
Originally Posted By cavedog:
The whole point of the exercise is to drag this out and aggravate you into making comments that can be construed as threats.


@mbg0001

Thoughts from mbg0001?

Besides don't make comments that can be construed as threats?

VCDL, lawyer and everything via registered mail.  Looks like Whiskers has things covered.

This is the first I've seen the response.  I couldn't begin to guess  the reasons behind the why of the response, except for the aforementioned retardation theories.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:15:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:21:25 PM EDT
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Good luck, Opie. You're fighting the good fight for a lot of people, so hang tough.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:22:39 PM EDT
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God damn, even faggoty Alexandria didn’t fuck with mine like that during my renewal last year.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:23:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:24:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

I have other documents to prove competence, but they will not get any of them.

Because he broke the law. I imagine they will issue it, but I'm really angry right now so I'm already plotting legal strategies.

You do not appease evil, you fight it.
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
Originally Posted By boolzi:
Well remember they have endless taxpayer funding to be in court.

I have other documents to prove competence, but they will not get any of them.

Because he broke the law. I imagine they will issue it, but I'm really angry right now so I'm already plotting legal strategies.

You do not appease evil, you fight it.

You kill it.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:27:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Proof training? What other Amendments in the Bill Of Rights require "proof of training"?

Fucking dirty ass commies.
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I want to subpoena KA3B so he can tell them to "READ THE ARTICLE"
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:28:36 PM EDT
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Tagged.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:29:00 PM EDT
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I member when i got my first permit in ffx, i had to show up and demand it on day 45, it was just sitting on a shelf.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:29:55 PM EDT
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Wow what nonsense.

I just renewed a WA permit.  New online system with the county, filled it out in 10 minutes, paid my money, and had a fresh new permit arrive in about 5 days.  It was amazing….
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:30:39 PM EDT
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Do they still charge above the allowed amount for the stamp to mail it?
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:31:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By EFB16ACRX:
Do they still charge above the allowed amount for the stamp to mail it?
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You include a self addressed stamped envelope
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:32:03 PM EDT
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If you need more paperwork proving training, pm me. You left your maryland training cert here when I had the class I can send it to you.

Also marylands permit is accepted in va.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:34:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StaccatoC2:
If you need more paperwork proving training, pm me. You left your maryland training cert here when I had the class I can send it to you.

Also marylands permit is accepted in va.
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I have plenty and they will get none of it, because they're breaking the law.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:34:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

You include a self addressed stamped envelope
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At least stafford provides the stamp.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:35:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Judges are just as dumb as the common citizenry.

Judges all to often tend to be lawyers who were to stupid to succeed financially in private law practice.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:37:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

Registered mail.

Lawyer(s). I may get a Constitutional lawyer as well as a regular lawyer.
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
Originally Posted By dogsplat:

Haha. They are about to not receive your letter.

Letter? What letter?

Fucking bureaucrats.


Registered mail.

Lawyer(s). I may get a Constitutional lawyer as well as a regular lawyer.

Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:39:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:40:23 PM EDT
[#26]
One eighth of the entire population of Virginia lives in Fairfax fucking County, most of them sucking on the Federal government tit and voting accordingly.

The search for the launch codes continues …
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:42:24 PM EDT
[#27]
Fight the good fight every moment.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:42:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

If I don't get a permit in the mail I will be getting a lawyer who will speak for me.
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
Originally Posted By cavedog:
The whole point of the exercise is to drag this out and aggravate you into making comments that can be construed as threats.

If I don't get a permit in the mail I will be getting a lawyer who will speak for me.


In for attorney funds firemission
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:43:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
One eighth of the entire population of Virginia lives in Fairfax fucking County, most of them sucking on the Federal government tit and voting accordingly.

The search for the launch codes continues …
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She spoke truth.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:43:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
One eighth of the entire population of Virginia lives in Fairfax fucking County, most of them sucking on the Federal government tit and voting accordingly.

The search for the launch codes continues …
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Ma'am please, should you not nuke us you would gain sport from Whiskers fighting the government you hate and you would have extra men for your cause.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:45:43 PM EDT
[#31]
Do we wear the Hawaiian shirts this time?  I didn't get to make it last time, but I  would love to go this time.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:47:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Extrabonez] [#32]
I could have sworn I saw a VCDL facebook post about this sort of thing recently.

March 26th
Attention all Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP) holders: Attorney General Jason Miyares has just delivered a crucial clarification regarding CHP renewals.
Some judges in Virginia have been misinterpreting the law, insisting that individuals renewing their CHP must provide proof of "in person" training. This requirement has caused headaches for many, especially those who no longer possess their original training certificate or whose certificate fails to specify the type of class attended.
But fear not! The Attorney General has officially set the record straight: there is NO mandate to demonstrate prior in-person training when renewing your CHP.
Check out the formal opinion here for all the details: https://www.oag.state.va.us/.../2024/24-006-Hall-issued.pdf
Huge thanks to General Miyares for providing this much-needed clarification! Let's spread the word and ensure everyone is aware of their rights. #CHPRenewal #VirginiaLaw #JasonMiyares #LegalClarification
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Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:49:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fox2008:

It might be worth the trip to VA to hear whiskers explain to the government why the government is gay and retarded .I honestly can't think of a better vacation destination right now.
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Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:49:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

Ma'am please, should you not nuke us you would gain sport from Whiskers fighting the government you hate and you would have extra men for your cause.
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
One eighth of the entire population of Virginia lives in Fairfax fucking County, most of them sucking on the Federal government tit and voting accordingly.

The search for the launch codes continues …

Ma'am please, should you not nuke us you would gain sport from Whiskers fighting the government you hate and you would have extra men for your cause.

Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:50:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sigking:
Do we wear the Hawaiian shirts this time?  I didn't get to make it last time, but I  would love to go this time.
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No.

I imagine they will issue the permit, but I am ready to take this really really really legally far if they don't.

I also want other Virginians in less gun friendly counties to know this is illegal, and provide them with information on how to fight it. If you already have a license, you might think it's easy to just send in the documents. Don't do that, this is your right.

6. Obtaining or previously having held a license to carry a firearm in the Commonwealth or a locality thereof, unless such license has been revoked for cause;
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:51:56 PM EDT
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If you have to go to court I hope there is some law that would grant attorney's fees in this situation. You should not have to pay for the government's obvious failure to follow the law.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:57:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By magnum_99:
If you have to go to court I hope there is some law that would grant attorney's fees in this situation. You should not have to pay for the government's obvious failure to follow the law.
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I would go for the fullest extent of my legal rights in Virginia.

However, even if some obscure code prevents that, it would serve as a case for others.

If they can do this to me, they can do it to any Virginian. Even if I take the financial L, we will have case law. I fully expect it to be issued, but if it is not, I will take any and all legal avenues available to me. I will not stop and I do not care about the financial consequences.

What that judge did is wrong, and I will take it up the court chain as long as I need to until the government is forced to abide by the laws which are on record with them.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:58:05 PM EDT
[#38]
NOVA...


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IDK why you people choose to live there. It really should be annexed from VA.


That said...


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Link Posted: 4/11/2024 8:58:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

No I'm not retarded. I'm good through June. I file on the first day available to file because I may have to fight a retarded government in court.
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Read through now and all clear in this.

I didn’t realize that they have a history of fucking about with all of it in such a deliberate manner.

Thank you for your service in this matter.

Self exiled from FC in 1998

Resident 1972-1990 1997-1998

Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:05:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Need4Guns:
NOVA...


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IDK why you people choose to live there. It really should be annexed from VA.


That said...


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I choose to live here because it is my home.

I cannot imagine leaving your home instead of trying to make it better.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:05:53 PM EDT
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Remember back when Occam's Razor still applied...

Back before Clown World
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:07:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ibn_Huq:



Read through now and all clear in this.

I didn’t realize that they have a history of fucking about with all of it in such a deliberate manner.

Thank you for your service in this matter.

Self exiled from FC in 1998

Resident 1972-1990 1997-1998

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Originally Posted By Ibn_Huq:
Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

No I'm not retarded. I'm good through June. I file on the first day available to file because I may have to fight a retarded government in court.



Read through now and all clear in this.

I didn’t realize that they have a history of fucking about with all of it in such a deliberate manner.

Thank you for your service in this matter.

Self exiled from FC in 1998

Resident 1972-1990 1997-1998


The day we lose is the day we stop trying to fight. As mentioned multiple times, I could submit qualifying documents that I have.

I refuse to. It's illegal what he did and I will not stand by and let it happen.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:07:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

I choose to live here because it is my home.

I cannot imagine leaving your home instead of trying to make it better.
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Well then pick up a rifle and organize a squad cuz it ain't gonna happen through "the system" up there.

Lost cause.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:08:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
I have had a concealed weapon license for a very long time. Today I received this letter for my renewal.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20240411_191517-3185220.jpg

This is my response.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20240411_194020-3185222.jpg

If they don't issue it I'm going to court.
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OMG, I love your signature!
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:09:24 PM EDT
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wow, that’s impressive letter to receive!
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:09:32 PM EDT
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I would have just stated #6 without twisting the knife, that form will probably get “lost.”

Sometimes it is better to be polite and professional to get what you want, even if “they” are wrong.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:10:28 PM EDT
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Then there’s Culpeper where it’s signed and back in my hands before the ink has dried.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:10:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

He will get it if he doesn't send me my permit.
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
This judge needs your class on Virginia thinking.

He will get it if he doesn't send me my permit.

Man oh man, am I glad I live in a Free State where an official ‘permission slip’ isn’t needed to exercise an explicit constitutional right.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 9:14:00 PM EDT
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Googling the judge is interesting.
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Originally Posted By Need4Guns:




Well then pick up a rifle and organize a squad cuz it ain't gonna happen through "the system" up there.

Lost cause.
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Originally Posted By Need4Guns:
Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

I choose to live here because it is my home.

I cannot imagine leaving your home instead of trying to make it better.




Well then pick up a rifle and organize a squad cuz it ain't gonna happen through "the system" up there.

Lost cause.

You can continue to write everything off as lost, but please don't call yourself a Virginian.

We have had so many losses in the history of the state, yet we always fought. Writing everything off is lazy, counterproductive, and defeatist.

Please move to Maryland.
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