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Posted: 4/14/2024 4:12:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: testify4]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: It's been purple a long time. There were Dem governors even in the 70s. They just werent rabidly insane like what we have now. Yes, and it was according to a plan: That's the trick. Progressives will plan, scheme, and get millions of dollars in donations from wealthy donors to further these plans. They own the media, education, the entertainment industry. Legalizing weed and getting masses of like minded people coming to CO in droves just cemented them in place. Barring some major overall shift in urban American political leanings, this state is lost. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 4:47:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Millennial: https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2024A/bills/2024a_1292_eng.pdf The relevant bits: Based on part XI isnt a stripped AR lower instantly non cpmpliant no matter what? There is a compnay that makes belt feed uppers for them IIRC (there was some weirdness with orders accepted and then not delivered for 2-3 years, and order of delivery. etc) |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 5:02:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fsjdw2: Based on part XI isnt a stripped AR lower instantly non cpmpliant no matter what? There is a compnay that makes belt feed uppers for them IIRC (there was some weirdness with orders accepted and then not delivered for 2-3 years, and order of delivery. etc) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fsjdw2: Originally Posted By Millennial: https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2024A/bills/2024a_1292_eng.pdf The relevant bits: Based on part XI isnt a stripped AR lower instantly non cpmpliant no matter what? There is a compnay that makes belt feed uppers for them IIRC (there was some weirdness with orders accepted and then not delivered for 2-3 years, and order of delivery. etc) The way I read it, you will not be able to transfer anything AK or AR related in CO, if this comes to pass. That seems to be the main purpose of the bill. Compliant seems to be the wrong word, because this would only outlaw future transfers. What you already got is grandfathered... Which makes enforcement extremely difficult, for decades. If you get questioned at a range or when pulled over by a cop... I had this back in 2023. Investigation of it would be difficult and time consuming. That isn't going to happen. What will be real interesting to see, is if FFLs in other States (NM, WY, Kansas, TX) will sell you an AR, with a CO drivers license. I don't think it's illegal for them to do, and there's tons of legit reasons and plausible deniability. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 5:51:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Come to Utah! Rent a side by side! (Take the class online first) Buy some beer (but just a little), enjoy our free rifle range (ie Arizona), wrestle a mountain lion (they've been kind of dicks lately), actually strangle it, we hate mountain lions, enjoy our mediocre to bad food served with a big smile, ride the busted dam flood!, enjoy a ride in a medivac chopper (the official state bird), shoot a coyote, shoot a backwoods meth cooker, wear your cowboy hat, no one knows that you're an insurance adjuster, sit in long lines to see our state parks, roar across empty deserts and desolate mountains, it's super and we want your money edit no gambling, drinking on Sunday and fornicating between non married people isn't allowed |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 6:24:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kalashnikov762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: SCOTUS needs to layeth the smackdown on all this shit. Clearly a violation of the 2A, and a giant fuck you to Bruen. Circuits with different rulings would hopefully expedite things. This. The SCOTUS is being made fools of. The longer this lawless FU goes on, the more irrelevant the SCOTUS rulings will become......the right leaning rulings anyway. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 6:49:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: icecold1]
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if your in Colorado, id put all my firearms into a trust before this go's live. then i can add anyone to the trust whenever i want. screw the commies
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:46:22 PM EDT
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How's that weed working out for yall?
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:00:02 PM EDT
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35 to 27
9 democrats voted against it.... |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:17:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1bamashooter: How's that weed working out for yall? When riding the motorcycle or driving with the windows down around town, you are always playing a game of "Skunk, or jazz cabbage?" Since it's usually in the same place, I think it's the latter. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:23:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Going by their definitions my marlin m60 .22 would be a assault weapon as it holds seventeen rounds. Colorado government is insane. tube mags and rimfire are exempt |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:35:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Muzzle loaders are specifically exempted. That part of the bill was posted earlier in the thread, or maybe into the other thread. Not that they need to be exempted, because they aren't semi auto. The proposed bill would only effect semi auto. the 50 cal clause is separate from the semi clauses no bolt action 50 bmg |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:37:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1bamashooter: How's that weed working out for yall? It’s…you know, like…uhh…freedom, man. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:39:45 PM EDT
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Gross
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:41:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MilHouse-556: Back in the W Bush era and before I'm pretty sure CO was a red state. Then it went purple and eventually blue. I got there in 1985. It was red, red, and red. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:41:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saigamanTX: 35 to 27 9 democrats voted against it....  Colorado is so fucked Looks like it was the house, which I thought had already approved it. This is the second or third vote. Dumbfucks. My rep voted against it the other day. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:42:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1bamashooter: How's that weed working out for yall? Does that make you feel better now? |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: The weed thing wasn't solely to blame, but was a major factor. Not because weed is particularly evil, but due to the timing. Being an early adopter of legalization brought in a lot of stupid from around the country. Weed was used by the Communists to recruit their blue haired voters to the front range. At the time, weed was illegal in most places, Colorado was an early adopter of medical, then an early adopter of recreational. Weed tourism and people moving here to party was absolutely a thing. Anyone who says it wasn't, has no idea. From 2014 to 2016, you couldn't drive a major road in this city without seeing a car full of degenerates hot boxing with smoke pouring out of the windows... During the middle of the work day. About half of them were tourists, and the other half losers who moved here just for the weed, with very little plans or resources. That combined with Obama's economy, was a death sentence for Colorado. At the same time, thousands of young people moved to Denver, when it was one of the few cities in the nation with jobs. Those young people (who mostly vote blue anyway) mostly moved from other cities (who are full of dems). The people who moved for jobs in Denver screwed us just as much, but probably more, than weed. Who works in the pot industry here? A ton of the "bud tenders" are "Colorado hot" younger girls, who are at best a 6. Tons of them are from broken homes from out of state, and wield florescent hair, tats, piercings. How do you think they vote? There are thousands or tens of thousands of these harlots. Weed was supposed to raise taxes to fix schools, roads ect... I travel a lot, and we have some of the shittiest roads in the US that rival a lot of 3rd world nations. The buildings at my kids schools were built in the 60s or 70s. Anything newer than that is a trailer. The pot tax money has done nothing for the average citizen. Being an early legalizer of weed definitely accelerated Colorado's decline. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to cope. However, it was still just one factor, and even if that didn't happen, we were heading in this direction anyway. Good analysis. Agreed. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:43:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalashnikov762: This. The SCOTUS is being made fools of. The longer this lawless FU goes on, the more irrelevant the SCOTUS rulings will become......the right leaning rulings anyway. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalashnikov762: Originally Posted By Mars87: SCOTUS needs to layeth the smackdown on all this shit. Clearly a violation of the 2A, and a giant fuck you to Bruen. Circuits with different rulings would hopefully expedite things. This. The SCOTUS is being made fools of. The longer this lawless FU goes on, the more irrelevant the SCOTUS rulings will become......the right leaning rulings anyway. Y'all know SCOTUS doesn't act on its own? Someone needs to bring a case. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:43:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: The Senate passed it? Colorado is so fucked no that was the house vote |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:49:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalashnikov762: This. The SCOTUS is being made fools of. The longer this lawless FU goes on, the more irrelevant the SCOTUS rulings will become......the right leaning rulings anyway. They appear to be pretty much toothless and ignored by damncrats, unless they rule in their favor on something. Wait until they stack the court in with marxist judges, that is, unless they are removed from power, someway. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:23:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcculver5: Good analysis. Agreed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcculver5: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: The weed thing wasn't solely to blame, but was a major factor. Not because weed is particularly evil, but due to the timing. Being an early adopter of legalization brought in a lot of stupid from around the country. Weed was used by the Communists to recruit their blue haired voters to the front range. At the time, weed was illegal in most places, Colorado was an early adopter of medical, then an early adopter of recreational. Weed tourism and people moving here to party was absolutely a thing. Anyone who says it wasn't, has no idea. From 2014 to 2016, you couldn't drive a major road in this city without seeing a car full of degenerates hot boxing with smoke pouring out of the windows... During the middle of the work day. About half of them were tourists, and the other half losers who moved here just for the weed, with very little plans or resources. That combined with Obama's economy, was a death sentence for Colorado. At the same time, thousands of young people moved to Denver, when it was one of the few cities in the nation with jobs. Those young people (who mostly vote blue anyway) mostly moved from other cities (who are full of dems). The people who moved for jobs in Denver screwed us just as much, but probably more, than weed. Who works in the pot industry here? A ton of the "bud tenders" are "Colorado hot" younger girls, who are at best a 6. Tons of them are from broken homes from out of state, and wield florescent hair, tats, piercings. How do you think they vote? There are thousands or tens of thousands of these harlots. Weed was supposed to raise taxes to fix schools, roads ect... I travel a lot, and we have some of the shittiest roads in the US that rival a lot of 3rd world nations. The buildings at my kids schools were built in the 60s or 70s. Anything newer than that is a trailer. The pot tax money has done nothing for the average citizen. Being an early legalizer of weed definitely accelerated Colorado's decline. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to cope. However, it was still just one factor, and even if that didn't happen, we were heading in this direction anyway. Good analysis. Agreed. Agree completely |
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USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:42:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Square66: And there it is. All California’s fault. I’m sure it has nothing to do with two generations of leftists being churned out under your noses in your own high schools and universities. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Square66: Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR: Californians doing what Californians do. And there it is. All California’s fault. I’m sure it has nothing to do with two generations of leftists being churned out under your noses in your own high schools and universities. 
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:45:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Come to Utah! Rent a side by side! (Take the class online first) Buy some beer (but just a little), enjoy our free rifle range (ie Arizona), wrestle a mountain lion (they've been kind of dicks lately), actually strangle it, we hate mountain lions, enjoy our mediocre to bad food served with a big smile, ride the busted dam flood!, enjoy a ride in a medivac chopper (the official state bird), shoot a coyote, shoot a backwoods meth cooker, wear your cowboy hat, no one knows that you're an insurance adjuster, sit in long lines to see our state parks, roar across empty deserts and desolate mountains, it's super and we want your money edit no gambling, drinking on Sunday and fornicating between non married people isn't allowed Hard to argue against this. Solid sales pitch. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:17:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saigamanTX: NO IT FUCKING DIDNT! I am so sick of this argument. The old guard of Republicans and their war on drugs did this. If the Republican party had gotten out ahead of the Democrats in at least looking at decriminalization of marijuana it would have taken the wind out of the Democrats sails. The problem is the GOP is too busy shooting themselves in the fucking foot to even pay attention. The Dems took control of this state with the legalization but not the way you think. They did it because the Republican party won't get out of the stone age and look at subjects from an open eye. I've lived here since late 2012. What we have is a fight between generations here. Hernandez and Epps the two shit stains who introduced this were not elected. They got in on redistricting bs so they feel entitled. The House is filled with true believers and young shit heads. The CO senate is filled with more moderates. Ever since 2016 there's been a war between the house and the senate the house believes they have the power they should wield it. The senate while Democrat believes in the more traditional way of doing things. There are just as many Democrat gun owners here that are just as pissed about this as the conservatives. The thing is the politicians in the house are not Democrats. They are progressive socialists. I think it was you who I agreed with in the other thread. The weed thing was a freight train coming that could not and can not be stopped. The truth is that my generation and younger (gen x to millenial) don't give a fuck about weed, and don't think it should be illegal. A VAST MAJORITY think this - gun owners, liberals, conservatives, dems, repubs, independents, etc.. The republicans put a nail gun to their dick and said watch this. It is entirely their fault the state turned blue as a sapphire. While I disagree that legalization of drugs is the answer, I can at least see the writing on the wall and the fucking fail the republicans were setting up. I also agree with your second point. These are not Democrats. Not even a tiny bit. These are socialists (self-proclaimed and aligned, DSA) and if you read what they're all about, they fall right there next to Communism. They are, for all purposes, communist traitors. This is the new breed. The far left. They weren't elected. They were appointed, via Democrat committee, when the traditionally (marginally) red districts near Denver were redistricted so that the red districts got smoked by the blue and turned Denver into a sapphire jewel of the West. A very, very small percentage of people actually agree with these psychos, especially when they see their taxes get raped to support socialist programs like needle/injection sites, homeless shelters the size of a Marriot hotel, illegal immigrant support, banning grocery bags, banning straws, installing EV charging stations, on and on and on. They're imposters, playing the political game. Fuck them long time. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:20:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Come to Utah! Rent a side by side! (Take the class online first) Buy some beer (but just a little), enjoy our free rifle range (ie Arizona), wrestle a mountain lion (they've been kind of dicks lately), actually strangle it, we hate mountain lions, enjoy our mediocre to bad food served with a big smile, ride the busted dam flood!, enjoy a ride in a medivac chopper (the official state bird), shoot a coyote, shoot a backwoods meth cooker, wear your cowboy hat, no one knows that you're an insurance adjuster, sit in long lines to see our state parks, roar across empty deserts and desolate mountains, it's super and we want your money edit no gambling, drinking on Sunday and fornicating between non married people isn't allowed Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Originally Posted By Falcon09: If you don't want me to spend my hard earned money in your town, fine with me I'm sure some liberals will eventually move there and fuck you too edit no gambling, drinking on Sunday and fornicating between non married people isn't allowed You gotta go to Salt Lake for the fornication. The Mormons don’t control SLC |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:34:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: I think it was you who I agreed with in the other thread. The weed thing was a freight train coming that could not and can not be stopped. The truth is that my generation and younger (gen x to millenial) don't give a fuck about weed, and don't think it should be illegal. A VAST MAJORITY think this - gun owners, liberals, conservatives, dems, repubs, independents, etc.. The republicans put a nail gun to their dick and said watch this. It is entirely their fault the state turned blue as a sapphire. While I disagree that legalization of drugs is the answer, I can at least see the writing on the wall and the fucking fail the republicans were setting up. I also agree with your second point. These are not Democrats. Not even a tiny bit. These are socialists (self-proclaimed and aligned, DSA) and if you read what they're all about, they fall right there next to Communism. They are, for all purposes, communist traitors. This is the new breed. The far left. They weren't elected. They were appointed, via Democrat committee, when the traditionally (marginally) red districts near Denver were redistricted so that the red districts got smoked by the blue and turned Denver into a sapphire jewel of the West. A very, very small percentage of people actually agree with these psychos, especially when they see their taxes get raped to support socialist programs like needle/injection sites, homeless shelters the size of a Marriot hotel, illegal immigrant support, banning grocery bags, banning straws, installing EV charging stations, on and on and on. They're imposters, playing the political game. Fuck them long time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Originally Posted By saigamanTX: NO IT FUCKING DIDNT! I am so sick of this argument. The old guard of Republicans and their war on drugs did this. If the Republican party had gotten out ahead of the Democrats in at least looking at decriminalization of marijuana it would have taken the wind out of the Democrats sails. The problem is the GOP is too busy shooting themselves in the fucking foot to even pay attention. The Dems took control of this state with the legalization but not the way you think. They did it because the Republican party won't get out of the stone age and look at subjects from an open eye. I've lived here since late 2012. What we have is a fight between generations here. Hernandez and Epps the two shit stains who introduced this were not elected. They got in on redistricting bs so they feel entitled. The House is filled with true believers and young shit heads. The CO senate is filled with more moderates. Ever since 2016 there's been a war between the house and the senate the house believes they have the power they should wield it. The senate while Democrat believes in the more traditional way of doing things. There are just as many Democrat gun owners here that are just as pissed about this as the conservatives. The thing is the politicians in the house are not Democrats. They are progressive socialists. I think it was you who I agreed with in the other thread. The weed thing was a freight train coming that could not and can not be stopped. The truth is that my generation and younger (gen x to millenial) don't give a fuck about weed, and don't think it should be illegal. A VAST MAJORITY think this - gun owners, liberals, conservatives, dems, repubs, independents, etc.. The republicans put a nail gun to their dick and said watch this. It is entirely their fault the state turned blue as a sapphire. While I disagree that legalization of drugs is the answer, I can at least see the writing on the wall and the fucking fail the republicans were setting up. I also agree with your second point. These are not Democrats. Not even a tiny bit. These are socialists (self-proclaimed and aligned, DSA) and if you read what they're all about, they fall right there next to Communism. They are, for all purposes, communist traitors. This is the new breed. The far left. They weren't elected. They were appointed, via Democrat committee, when the traditionally (marginally) red districts near Denver were redistricted so that the red districts got smoked by the blue and turned Denver into a sapphire jewel of the West. A very, very small percentage of people actually agree with these psychos, especially when they see their taxes get raped to support socialist programs like needle/injection sites, homeless shelters the size of a Marriot hotel, illegal immigrant support, banning grocery bags, banning straws, installing EV charging stations, on and on and on. They're imposters, playing the political game. Fuck them long time. Colorado got fucked over big time, in no small part, because we were an early adopter of legal weed. Republicans getting behind it earlier, just makes the problem bigger/faster. If the Republicans could have kept weed away for another election or two, we likely would have tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of less blue haired immigrants. Many came here just because we were one of the first to do it. Let that be someone else. Delaying legalization, and encouraging the hippies that move for it, to move somewhere else, moves the needle a bit. Maybe enough to sway a few key elections. Perhaps we could have kept Cory Gardner and not have that Corrupt Commie fuck Hickenlooper in the US Senate. I do agree, that now we are proper fucked. At the state level, we are blue as blue can get. Look at how they tried to remove Trump from the ballot. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:51:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Colorado got fucked over big time, in no small part, because we were an early adopter of legal weed. Republicans getting behind it earlier, just makes the problem bigger/faster. If the Republicans could have kept weed away for another election or two, we likely would have tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of less blue haired immigrants. Many came here just because we were one of the first to do it. Let that be someone else. Delaying legalization, and encouraging the hippies that move for it, to move somewhere else, moves the needle a bit. Maybe enough to sway a few key elections. Perhaps we could have kept Cory Gardner and not have that Corrupt Commie fuck Hickenlooper in the US Senate. I do agree, that now we are proper fucked. At the state level, we are blue as blue can get. Look at how they tried to remove Trump from the ballot. What I'm actually saying is that republicans should have seen the writing on the wall, and embraced the issue right there with the dems, make it a non-starter. Keeping it away would never have worked. Colorado was barreling down that path despite any real effort to stop it. Because the republicans fought legalization tooth and nail, it cost them their seats as reps and as committee members. They became unelectable. Even after weed (medical) was passed, they still threatened to revoke it. My brothers in Christ, that's not how to maintain representation in congress or leadership. It was a done deal. The republicans made themselves de facto unelectable in Colorado. And look at where it got us. Do agree with your last point though. CO is fucked. This ship is sunk. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:29:58 AM EDT
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 'Assault weapons' ban passes Colorado House |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:37:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: What I'm actually saying is that republicans should have seen the writing on the wall, and embraced the issue right there with the dems, make it a non-starter. Keeping it away would never have worked. Colorado was barreling down that path despite any real effort to stop it. Because the republicans fought legalization tooth and nail, it cost them their seats as reps and as committee members. They became unelectable. Even after weed (medical) was passed, they still threatened to revoke it. My brothers in Christ, that's not how to maintain representation in congress or leadership. It was a done deal. The republicans made themselves de facto unelectable in Colorado. And look at where it got us. Do agree with your last point though. CO is fucked. This ship is sunk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Colorado got fucked over big time, in no small part, because we were an early adopter of legal weed. Republicans getting behind it earlier, just makes the problem bigger/faster. If the Republicans could have kept weed away for another election or two, we likely would have tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of less blue haired immigrants. Many came here just because we were one of the first to do it. Let that be someone else. Delaying legalization, and encouraging the hippies that move for it, to move somewhere else, moves the needle a bit. Maybe enough to sway a few key elections. Perhaps we could have kept Cory Gardner and not have that Corrupt Commie fuck Hickenlooper in the US Senate. I do agree, that now we are proper fucked. At the state level, we are blue as blue can get. Look at how they tried to remove Trump from the ballot. What I'm actually saying is that republicans should have seen the writing on the wall, and embraced the issue right there with the dems, make it a non-starter. Keeping it away would never have worked. Colorado was barreling down that path despite any real effort to stop it. Because the republicans fought legalization tooth and nail, it cost them their seats as reps and as committee members. They became unelectable. Even after weed (medical) was passed, they still threatened to revoke it. My brothers in Christ, that's not how to maintain representation in congress or leadership. It was a done deal. The republicans made themselves de facto unelectable in Colorado. And look at where it got us. Do agree with your last point though. CO is fucked. This ship is sunk. So the strategy of being a better democrat, than the democrats would have failed, just as hard or likely harder. That's basically the post Reagan strategy of everyone not named Trump. And it has been an unmitigated disaster for our nation. You aren't going to get the cross state migrant blue haired hippies to vote R, even if you say their pot is ok. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:48:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: The difference was back then they were all pretty moderate, as were the republican candidates. What got it fucked was the weed law, and with that one ballot issue the state went blue, shitloads of lefties flocked here, and the democrats became more extreme each election cycle. Thats in the span of 10 years. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: Originally Posted By raider00:  Colorado was always a pinko state, your telling me Gary Hart and Pat Schroeder were conservative? and that was 40+ years ago. The difference was back then they were all pretty moderate, as were the republican candidates. What got it fucked was the weed law, and with that one ballot issue the state went blue, shitloads of lefties flocked here, and the democrats became more extreme each election cycle. Thats in the span of 10 years. IIRC, Colorado was one of the States that got fucked by the Reapportionment Cases. My own State (California) was one of them as well. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:54:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: SCOTUS needs to layeth the smackdown on all this shit. Clearly a violation of the 2A, and a giant fuck you to Bruen. Circuits with different rulings would hopefully expedite things. How? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:02:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris: How? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris: Originally Posted By Mars87: SCOTUS needs to layeth the smackdown on all this shit. Clearly a violation of the 2A, and a giant fuck you to Bruen. Circuits with different rulings would hopefully expedite things. How? Do they not have the power to enact and use a SCOTUS Marshall service, with warrants? While ite not been done yet, I was under the impression that it could be. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:07:41 AM EDT
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We left Colorado YEARS ago. See why? We could see it coming.
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:09:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:19:11 AM EDT
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What total bullshit.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:22:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Colorado got fucked over big time, in no small part, because we were an early adopter of legal weed. Republicans getting behind it earlier, just makes the problem bigger/faster. If the Republicans could have kept weed away for another election or two, we likely would have tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of less blue haired immigrants. Many came here just because we were one of the first to do it. Let that be someone else. Delaying legalization, and encouraging the hippies that move for it, to move somewhere else, moves the needle a bit. Maybe enough to sway a few key elections. Perhaps we could have kept Cory Gardner and not have that Corrupt Commie fuck Hickenlooper in the US Senate. I do agree, that now we are proper fucked. At the state level, we are blue as blue can get. Look at how they tried to remove Trump from the ballot. There was no way for it to happen. It was actually a citizen issue put on the ballot. Neither party actually wanted it cuz it was a dumpster fire of a proposal. OFC once it happened and it was "modified" later, then it was too late, but yes the republicans were retarded for trying to overturn it, as that got blue voters to the polls. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:32:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: uncle_big_green]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: So the strategy of being a better democrat, than the democrats would have failed, just as hard or likely harder. That's basically the post Reagan strategy of everyone not named Trump. And it has been an unmitigated disaster for our nation. You aren't going to get the cross state migrant blue haired hippies to vote R, even if you say their pot is ok. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By pestilence12: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Colorado got fucked over big time, in no small part, because we were an early adopter of legal weed. Republicans getting behind it earlier, just makes the problem bigger/faster. If the Republicans could have kept weed away for another election or two, we likely would have tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of less blue haired immigrants. Many came here just because we were one of the first to do it. Let that be someone else. Delaying legalization, and encouraging the hippies that move for it, to move somewhere else, moves the needle a bit. Maybe enough to sway a few key elections. Perhaps we could have kept Cory Gardner and not have that Corrupt Commie fuck Hickenlooper in the US Senate. I do agree, that now we are proper fucked. At the state level, we are blue as blue can get. Look at how they tried to remove Trump from the ballot. What I'm actually saying is that republicans should have seen the writing on the wall, and embraced the issue right there with the dems, make it a non-starter. Keeping it away would never have worked. Colorado was barreling down that path despite any real effort to stop it. Because the republicans fought legalization tooth and nail, it cost them their seats as reps and as committee members. They became unelectable. Even after weed (medical) was passed, they still threatened to revoke it. My brothers in Christ, that's not how to maintain representation in congress or leadership. It was a done deal. The republicans made themselves de facto unelectable in Colorado. And look at where it got us. Do agree with your last point though. CO is fucked. This ship is sunk. So the strategy of being a better democrat, than the democrats would have failed, just as hard or likely harder. That's basically the post Reagan strategy of everyone not named Trump. And it has been an unmitigated disaster for our nation. You aren't going to get the cross state migrant blue haired hippies to vote R, even if you say their pot is ok. The strategy was (what should have been) to be consistent on issues of liberty, pass it in the legislature and keep it off the ballot. Plenty of Rs, Ls and Unaffiliated were smoking weed back then. People who don't get this are part of the problem and share blame. It's a moot point now because as we all agree, this state is hosed for at least a generation. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:39:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheWhiteHorse: Montana is maybe 10 years away from this, but probably 5. This makes me sad. Why is liberalism such a fucking cancer? |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:48:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: killstick_engaged]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WWolfe: This makes me sad. Why is liberalism such a fucking cancer? They have more money than you. Many a communist shithole was ushered in by upper middle class malcontents who were later told to face the wall because they are the useful idiots who get things started, but communism has no need or desire for perpetually unhappy malcontents. Consider what makes you a 'good citizen' in China. - STFU, stay off the internet and go to work. Things that most conservatives already do ("I'd protest but I have to go to work tomorrow") |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:57:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Harlikwin]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: The strategy was (what should have been) to be consistent on issues of liberty, pass it in the legislature and keep it off the ballot. Plenty of Rs, Ls and Unaffiliated were smoking weed back then. People who don't get this are part of the problem and share blame. It's a moot point now because as we all agree, this state is hosed for at least a generation. IDK, the left has fucked things up so badly in the last few years both on the local level and national level with moron Joe that I think younger people at least are seeing the left as a waste of time that fails to deliver. This is why Joe and the gang is so fucking desperate to buy their votes with student loan payoffs. But you talk to younger millennials and zoomers, housing/affordability and having a decent job with work life balance are at the top of their shit I want lists and they realize a functioning economy is required for either one. And at least some of them are waking up to how fucked they got by Obama and Joe. IDK if it will be enough to overcome our institutionalized CO voter fraud machine though. But should the republicans somehow get a majority, they need to ram through voter reform as the #1 priority and use every dirty trick in the book to get it done, cuz if they don't they are out next cycle. But any Dems will fight them to the death over any changes there. And the wake up call to current red states or purple states is absolutely lock down your voting laws. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:01:13 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: institutionalized CO voter fraud machine This is what leads me to believe that there may not be any peaceful avenues to fixing our problems. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:20:54 PM EDT
[#42]
I remember some of the loudest voices in the "Texas will be blue next year" threads being from Arizona and Colorado, even in the years after CO getting a magazine ban which admittedly was so seldom enforced I met many Coloradans that didn't even know about it.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:45:33 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ag04blast: The conservative battle cry.....RETREAT! . . . . . . Until there is nowhere to go. Then we will get serious. The problem isn’t retreat it’s surrender. If this type of thing starts happening, and you don’t stop it, and you won’t move what is that called? Seems like surrendering to me. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:07:54 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By killstick_engaged: I disagree. It absolutely should be illegal because humans are selfish indolent creatures who will only seek evermore means to be lazier and more selfish. Don't believe me? Look at the potheads that ruin Colorado , now let's see how many of them are gainfully employed as of 2024.  There's a reason why the little baby plant is still illegal in our chief geopolitical rival countries, China and Russia. The problem is welfare not weed. People can be as lazy as they want as long as their lifestyle isn’t subsidized by the rest of us. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:08:58 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shootr: We left Colorado YEARS ago. See why? We could see it coming. Eventually we will all run out of places to run |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:10:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crwdplsr: Eventually we will all run out of places to run |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:17:32 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Do they not have the power to enact and use a SCOTUS Marshall service, with warrants? While ite not been done yet, I was under the impression that it could be. At some point I would think blatantly ignoring their rulings would amount to deprivation of rights under color of law. Bruen is incredibly clear. I don’t know how any honest person could pass this legislation without knowing it is unconstitutional. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:24:15 PM EDT
[#48]
Just ignore their bullshit laws. Rules of the wasteland or something…
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:26:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Millennial]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kzin: the 50 cal clause is separate from the semi clauses no bolt action 50 bmg Actually, I don't think it bans .50 BMG rifles at all. I mean, it tries to but doesn't. The .50 BMG chambering is actually .510 caliber, similar to how .44 Magnum is misnamed (it's actually a .429 caliber weapon). This is why the the California Ban specifically mentions ".50 BMG" and ".510-.511" caliber ammunition. The Colorado ban explicitly only says ".50 caliber" in the generic sense without specifically mentioning the ".50 BMG" chambering or any .50 BMG rifles by name. No 50BMG weapon is .50 caliber... they're all .510 caliber. However .50 Beowulf, .50AE, .500S&W, and .50GI are all actual .50 caliber projectiles/bores. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:28:18 PM EDT
[#50]
Because that’s what tyrannical democrats do.
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