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Posted: 4/14/2024 7:20:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: Keep saving for another month or two and order an APC308 https://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/BT-308-675x450.jpg was waiting forever to get a brenII 308 but still not allowed in thus far. that rifle looks nicer than they do on the web order pages. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 7:22:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt1860: I put together this thing, I'm not sure what to call it but it's fun to shoot. Rem 700 16 inch barrel, Grayboe stock, CompM4S. It has an AICS floorplate now and has become the default truck gun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77166/IMG_3036-2754214.jpg Damn. That's awesome! Now I see something I didn't know I needed. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 7:33:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/14/2024 7:38:23 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CZRider: What do you need it for? The M1A obviously has the cool factor for you but the AR-10 is going to be better and less of a pain in the ass on just about every front for any practical purpose. For fun. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 7:48:56 PM EDT
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Love the HK-91 and FAL and M1A for classics. Sounds like you want a M1A so go for it!! Get what you like.
The AR-10 is by far the most practical option. I also really like my Tavor 7. Balances really well suppressed. But the AR-10 has a better trigger and is more accurate. Both are good suppressor hosts and take P-mags and mount optics easily. If I could only have two 308 semi autos these would be it for me. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:00:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m24shooter]
[#6]
If you want the M1A, the SOCOM or Tanker are going to give you relatively compact/light/handy package. You will get more muzzle blast, unless you use something like a Delta P or SEI adapter with a linear comp or put a can on it. The Delta P can still use your original front sight body, the SEI needs a different one. Otherwise, not a big deal.
The Scout/Bush is pretty well-regarded across the board. You can use a regular hider with it rather than the break.  The Loaded model is a nice base model with some accuracy features that come stock. Optics can be challenging, as you are probably going to need a riser depending on how you have it. The VLTOR stock takes that out for the most part. If you can get an ARMS #18 that will put your optic about as low as you can get it.   Also, you can use a PVS-4 mount and get an ACOG pretty low and the eye relief is good enough on several that it works well. 
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:03:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: If you want the M1A, the SOCOM or Tanker are going to give you relatively compact/light/handy package. You will get more muzzle blast, unless you use something like a Delta P or SEI adapter with a linear comp or put a can on it. The Delta P can still use your original front sight body, the SEI needs a different one. Otherwise, not a big deal. The Scout/Bush is pretty well-regarded across the board. You can use a regular hider with it rather than the break. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18486/IMG_5392-3129445.jpg The Loaded model is a nice base model with some accuracy features that come stock. Optics can be challenging, as you are probably going to need a riser depending on how you have it. The VLTOR stock takes that out for the most part. If you can get an ARMS #18 that will put your optic about as low as you can get it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18486/IMG_5416-3134937.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18486/IMG_5504-3148264.jpg Also, you can use a PVS-4 mount and get an ACOG pretty low and the eye relief is good enough on several that it works well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18486/IMG_5544-3155263.jpg Sold. Will post with pics... Eventually. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:03:40 PM EDT
[#8]
M1A scout is what you seek, I freaking love mine!!!
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:06:08 PM EDT
[#9]
PTR- 91 GI. I’d get the 16” barrel.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:07:00 PM EDT
[#10]
I've got "practical" covered. This one is grail gun.
Sex. Nothing but sex. 
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:13:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: I've got "practical" covered. This one is grail gun. Sex. Nothing but sex.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21318/IMG_5416-3134937__1_-3188116.jpg ARMS #18, Trijicon RMR Type II, GI M1 sling, CMI mags. That is pretty much what I would say is the start point. Sadlak big mag paddle, Sadlak NM spring guide, Sadlak TiN piston, SAI unitized gas cylinder. Those are nice to have/easier operation and cleaning/or consistency tweaks. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:18:23 PM EDT
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Will this handle IMI 7.62?
Cause I have...things |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:24:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: Will this handle IMI 7.62? Cause I have...things It should. 168 isn’t an issue and I have seen people using 175s in M1As. Now that may be with a heavier spring, drilled spindle, or adjustable gas plug or it may be completely stock. I don’t use the 175s in mine, so I didn’t really look into but I’ll go check my stuff and see. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:24:54 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: Will this handle IMI 7.62? Cause I have...things IMI is gtg. That’s a gorgeous stock to come out of the factory did you add it or buy with it new? |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:25:21 PM EDT
[#15]
.308 Garand
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:25:46 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: It should. 168 isn’t an issue and I have seen people using 175s in M1As. Now that may be with a heavier spring, drilled spindle, or adjustable gas plug or it may be completely stock. I don’t use the 175s in mine, so I didn’t really look into but I’ll go check my stuff and see. 175s don’t need vented gas pistons though as I understand it 180 and up do. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:27:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m24shooter]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: Will this handle IMI 7.62? Cause I have...things Weird double tap thing. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunnie357: 175s don’t need vented gas pistons though as I understand it 180 and up do. That’s pretty much in line with what I thought, but since I haven’t really used anything heavier than 168s I wasn’t sure. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:37:49 PM EDT
[#19]
 M1 Garand vs M1A |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 8:40:34 PM EDT
[#20]
You need 2 platforms. Get an AR-10 and whatever else floats your boat. Run-up your credit card. If you can't do that, then get a lower and whatever else floats your boat.
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AK, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:04:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somedude: was waiting forever to get a brenII 308 but still not allowed in thus far. that rifle looks nicer than they do on the web order pages. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somedude: Originally Posted By feetpiece: Keep saving for another month or two and order an APC308 https://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/BT-308-675x450.jpg was waiting forever to get a brenII 308 but still not allowed in thus far. that rifle looks nicer than they do on the web order pages. Same. An APC308 with a telescoping stock is the only thing that I find more appealing than the CZ. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: I've got "practical" covered. This one is grail gun. Sex. Nothing but sex.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21318/IMG_5416-3134937__1_-3188116.jpg That muzzle break sucks worse than the one on the SCAR 17. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:07:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunnie357: IMI is gtg. That’s a gorgeous stock to come out of the factory did you add it or buy with it new? If you're referring to the Tanker I posted it is a factory stock. I can't remember who currently is making them for SAI, but there have been a lot of recent M1As with really nice looking stocks. And that pic is after 8 or 10 applications of PTO, but even before that it looked really good. Way better than I expected for a factory stock. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:14:52 PM EDT
[#24]
TAVOR
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:16:03 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: Same. An APC308 with a telescoping stock is the only thing that I find more appealing than the CZ. Currently kitting this one out. 
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:29:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prijador]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmokeEater2: Scout Squad M1A for $13884.99 at KYGUNCO with QP pricing- Scout Squad M1A Or a FAL built on an Imbel or DSA receiver. FAL on an Imbel. That is the way. ETA: PWS UXR looks interesting. Urge to know more intensifies. ETA more: looks to be in the same price range as a SCAR-17. Heck, take a look at an XCR in .308 |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:31:33 PM EDT
[#27]
B&T APC?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:33:37 PM EDT
[#28]
SR25 ACC/CC.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:38:44 PM EDT
[#29]
Do it!
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:40:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Raw reliability, common mags, damn near indestructible
Galil ACE 7.62x51 NATO The SCAR and the G3 are both cool but the most well rounded heavy hitter in my collection is the IWI    
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:44:08 PM EDT
[#31]
Budget for 308 at 1800 is an AR10 with optic or needs to be doubled.
Just my personal opinion but m1a, fal, HK clone and whatever old school platform isn't a bad option at that budget. At least if you don't care about it being practical. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:44:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA: Originally Posted By feetpiece: Same. An APC308 with a telescoping stock is the only thing that I find more appealing than the CZ. Currently kitting this one out. https://i.imgur.com/fOIRPBs.jpg SCAR 17 owners seeing that:  |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:45:52 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: SR25 ACC/CC. With a $1800 budget??? 
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:48:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SAE]
[#34]
Well, I need something in 50 cal for my dick.
Then everyone will know.  (scene where napalm blows up in trees. Asshole running across the bridge but it does him no fucking good; CHINK-CHINK, CHINK- CHINK- CHINK-CHINK!!  )
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:49:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Bump your budget and buy an MWS. Not boring anymore….lots of caliber options keep it spicy.
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USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 9:58:53 PM EDT
[#36]
M1a tanker or scout
G3 Fal Scar No particular order |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:00:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Raw reliability, common mags, damn near indestructible Galil ACE 7.62x51 NATO The SCAR and the G3 are both cool but the most well rounded heavy hitter in my collection is the IWI https://i.ibb.co/Stp2wGh/FEF65269-0-F46-4-F94-9-C5-F-45-D0033396-E6.jpg https://i.ibb.co/B39pfk7/66-A005-C7-8-D18-4-A3-C-B527-1-EFB875-ACDB7.jpg https://i.ibb.co/ZcBg9DB/25-D6-E76-B-0-EC2-47-FF-92-A6-D85895-DBEB5-F.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Zc0j4Jy/4-D018915-C326-4-A0-B-927-A-01-A355-C79-E1-B.webp You know, a Galil 762 wasn't even on my radar. Dammit Arfcom |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:00:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Originally Posted By ecgRN: I've wanted an m1a variant for years. Ar10 platforms are boring, but cheaper. I don't have much time in this state. What would GD do? Get both - Serioulsy, I bought an M1A, FAL, AR-10, CETME and G3 clone. Thinking of picking up a SCAR and AK in .308 at some point as well. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:01:58 PM EDT
[#39]
AR10/SR25 is the answer.
Never stop fighting. You can and you will win. Do not accept this crap. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:03:28 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: You know, a Galil 762 wasn't even on my radar. Dammit Arfcom Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: Originally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Raw reliability, common mags, damn near indestructible Galil ACE 7.62x51 NATO The SCAR and the G3 are both cool but the most well rounded heavy hitter in my collection is the IWI https://i.ibb.co/Stp2wGh/FEF65269-0-F46-4-F94-9-C5-F-45-D0033396-E6.jpg https://i.ibb.co/B39pfk7/66-A005-C7-8-D18-4-A3-C-B527-1-EFB875-ACDB7.jpg https://i.ibb.co/ZcBg9DB/25-D6-E76-B-0-EC2-47-FF-92-A6-D85895-DBEB5-F.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Zc0j4Jy/4-D018915-C326-4-A0-B-927-A-01-A355-C79-E1-B.webp You know, a Galil 762 wasn't even on my radar. Dammit Arfcom I didn't even think about that. At 1800 I'd probably say that is the best choice if AR10 is out the window. I love cold war battle rifles too |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:04:20 PM EDT
[#41]
These people want you hopeless and sad.
Humans do not flourish being hopeless and sad. Buy what you need now, then invest your time and money into fighting. What they're doing is wrong. Legally and morally. It is wrong. You have to believe you will win and you must fight every legal fight available to you. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:05:26 PM EDT
[#42]
All of the above.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:06:09 PM EDT
[#43]
Fight.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:32:41 PM EDT
[#44]
As far as AR10's, this looks like a square deal.
 Armalite AR10 Tac14 $1199.99 on clearance. https://palmettostatearmory.com/armalite-308-win-7-62-semi-automatic-ar-10-rifle-ar10tac14.html |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:40:18 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: You know, a Galil 762 wasn't even on my radar. Dammit Arfcom Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: Originally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Raw reliability, common mags, damn near indestructible Galil ACE 7.62x51 NATO The SCAR and the G3 are both cool but the most well rounded heavy hitter in my collection is the IWI https://i.ibb.co/Stp2wGh/FEF65269-0-F46-4-F94-9-C5-F-45-D0033396-E6.jpg https://i.ibb.co/B39pfk7/66-A005-C7-8-D18-4-A3-C-B527-1-EFB875-ACDB7.jpg https://i.ibb.co/ZcBg9DB/25-D6-E76-B-0-EC2-47-FF-92-A6-D85895-DBEB5-F.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Zc0j4Jy/4-D018915-C326-4-A0-B-927-A-01-A355-C79-E1-B.webp You know, a Galil 762 wasn't even on my radar. Dammit Arfcom Do it. Israeli powerhouse built for ‘managing Jihad’ Here’s some more encouragement 
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:46:06 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Do it. Israeli powerhouse built for ‘managing Jihad’ Here’s some more encouragement https://i.ibb.co/w72RtXm/B2-C8-CB77-AAEF-4842-9-F8-F-1-D0-F3-F9062-E1.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Originally Posted By PointBlank82: Originally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Raw reliability, common mags, damn near indestructible Galil ACE 7.62x51 NATO The SCAR and the G3 are both cool but the most well rounded heavy hitter in my collection is the IWI https://i.ibb.co/Stp2wGh/FEF65269-0-F46-4-F94-9-C5-F-45-D0033396-E6.jpg https://i.ibb.co/B39pfk7/66-A005-C7-8-D18-4-A3-C-B527-1-EFB875-ACDB7.jpg https://i.ibb.co/ZcBg9DB/25-D6-E76-B-0-EC2-47-FF-92-A6-D85895-DBEB5-F.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Zc0j4Jy/4-D018915-C326-4-A0-B-927-A-01-A355-C79-E1-B.webp You know, a Galil 762 wasn't even on my radar. Dammit Arfcom Do it. Israeli powerhouse built for ‘managing Jihad’ Here’s some more encouragement https://i.ibb.co/w72RtXm/B2-C8-CB77-AAEF-4842-9-F8-F-1-D0-F3-F9062-E1.jpg These seem to run around $2k new. How hard are spare parts to come by (bolt, recoil springs, piston, etc.) |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:46:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astrocreep96: Seems like a Ruger SFAR would line up with your needs, and lots of people have them here. Most of the threads/reviews I've seen are positive. This. I’ve had one for about a month. After owning several .308 “battle rifles” (HK91, M1A, SCAR 17, AR-10) this rifle is perfect. Haven’t had any issues. Had fed and cycled all ammo. It’s light weight is what sets it apart. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:49:43 PM EDT
[#48]
My APC 308 was okay for accuracy but the LMT MARS-H kicks the other rifles to the curb in accuracy.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:52:39 PM EDT
[#49]
I sold off my FAL, CETME and Winchester bolt because my Armalite AR-10 was accurate enough to replace them. I want an? SFAR and a SCAR tho.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:57:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pair_of_ACES]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: These seem to run around $2k new. How hard are spare parts to come by (bolt, recoil springs, piston, etc.) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: Originally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Originally Posted By PointBlank82: Originally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Raw reliability, common mags, damn near indestructible Galil ACE 7.62x51 NATO The SCAR and the G3 are both cool but the most well rounded heavy hitter in my collection is the IWI https://i.ibb.co/Stp2wGh/FEF65269-0-F46-4-F94-9-C5-F-45-D0033396-E6.jpg https://i.ibb.co/B39pfk7/66-A005-C7-8-D18-4-A3-C-B527-1-EFB875-ACDB7.jpg https://i.ibb.co/ZcBg9DB/25-D6-E76-B-0-EC2-47-FF-92-A6-D85895-DBEB5-F.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Zc0j4Jy/4-D018915-C326-4-A0-B-927-A-01-A355-C79-E1-B.webp You know, a Galil 762 wasn't even on my radar. Dammit Arfcom Do it. Israeli powerhouse built for ‘managing Jihad’ Here’s some more encouragement https://i.ibb.co/w72RtXm/B2-C8-CB77-AAEF-4842-9-F8-F-1-D0-F3-F9062-E1.jpg These seem to run around $2k new. How hard are spare parts to come by (bolt, recoil springs, piston, etc.) IWI periodically gets parts in stock. I grabbed a set of springs/firing pin/extractor/etc. I don’t know if they sell the entire bolt though. IWI US has a pretty decent website where you can see everything they have available. Unfortunately they’re more like FN in that it’s kind of hard to get all the little parts https://iwi.us/product-category/galil-ace-gen-ii/galil-ace-gen-ii-7-62-nato-rifle/galil-ace-gen-ii-7-62-nato-rifle-spare-parts/ |
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