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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:58:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Now that you have an M1A you need an AR308.
Ruger SFAR is you’re willing to workout possible issues Or Sig 716i. You probably should just get both. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:02:48 PM EDT
[#2]
just make sure you buy a suppressior with it.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:03:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ecgRN]
[#3]
I'm going to get an m1a tanker tomorrow.
87% sure. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:03:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Aerospace_Money]
[#4]
They had .308 garands recently, grab one of those.
Edit: since you're in colorado, I'd get both. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:09:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ecgRN]
[#5]
If I had "Aerospace_Money", I'd get both.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:10:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#6]
Rifles in .308 have always been a tough one. Nothing really interests me in the .308 realm... Not even the caliber itself. I might have been willing to give the Beretta ARX-200 a try if it ever came out, but it never did.
My brother got a Springfield M1A just before the WA ban went into effect. He wanted one for quite a while, but I didn't really care for it when I got to try it out. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:12:08 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: I'm going to get an m1a tanker tomorrow. 87% sure. You made your mind up before making the thread. It's probably the only battle rifle that will be available after the ban 
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:12:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Kinda did
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:14:33 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: I'm going to get an m1a tanker tomorrow. 87% sure.   
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:17:31 PM EDT
[#10]
I'd get an AR10.
Have owned or shot M1-A, FAL, etc. They are poor platforms for optics. FAL has mediocre accuracy, and a crap trigger. M1-A has decent accuracy, and a better trigger, than the FAL. With a good barrel and trigger, the AR is a MOA gun or very close to it. "Only accurate rifles are interesting." |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:19:37 PM EDT
[#11]
It's not about MOA.
I've got the practical covered. Five fold. It's about want. And I want.  |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:21:38 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: It's not about MOA. I've got the practical covered. Five fold. It's about want. And I want. There are worse things to want! |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:27:41 PM EDT
[#13]
I own or have owned them all. Get what you want, not what internet assholes say.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:30:32 PM EDT
[#14]
Desert Tech's new Wolverine in .308 just came out. It's expensive though, and unproven.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:36:56 PM EDT
[#15]
I've got a Century C308 that needs to find a new home, I just like FALs and AR10s better.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:50:22 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Originally Posted By ecgRN: I'm going to get an m1a tanker tomorrow. 87% sure. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:23:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Phil_Billy]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: I'd get an AR10. Have owned or shot M1-A, FAL, etc. They are poor platforms for optics. FAL has mediocre accuracy, and a crap trigger. M1-A has decent accuracy, and a better trigger, than the FAL. With a good barrel and trigger, the AR is a MOA gun or very close to it. "Only accurate rifles are interesting." They fought a lot of wars with FALs, they are accurate enough. I also greatly prefer the recoil over an AR-10 platform. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:26:35 AM EDT
[#18]
Not gonna read the entire thread.
But I lived in CT and learned the hard way. You NEED to buy as many stripped lowers (AR15 and AR10/308) as you reasonably can. You'll be happy when you have them stashed away. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:31:19 AM EDT
[#19]
SCAR 17 or 20, both great.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:33:56 AM EDT
[#20]
If $1800 is your budget and you’re worried about availability down the road, why in the world would you consider anything other than a couple large-frame ARs from PSA? Heck, build your own with components you prefer.
I get that the FAL is a cool-looking gun. I had several back in the day when mags were cheap, even during the ‘94 AWB. I think I still have the receipt from Entreprise to prove it. But as cool as it and the M1A and the roller-rocked 308s are, the large-frame AR is certainly cheaper and will undoubtedly be more accurate. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:45:43 AM EDT
[#21]
Build an Aero and several different uppers for different jobs.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:47:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kingdead]
[#22]
CMP Navy 7.62mm M1 Garand Mk2 Mod1?
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:52:09 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BullpupFan: @PointBlank82 please PM a link to Demo/Clearance POF Revolution PD for sale! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BullpupFan: Originally Posted By PointBlank82: My vote is for a SCAR 17 or maybe a Demo/Clearance POF Revolution if money is tight. My Demo/Clearance 14.5" Piston POF Revolution: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/310106/20240409_131859_jpg-3187512.JPG @PointBlank82 please PM a link to Demo/Clearance POF Revolution PD for sale! Since we're spending each others' money (serious thank-you shout-out to @PointBlank82 for hooking a brother up!) why not go G3K-clonish...  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:09:17 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Phil_Billy: They fought a lot of wars with FALs, they are accurate enough. I also greatly prefer the recoil over an AR-10 platform. Not sure much actual truth was ever printed in or taken from a gun magazine, but it sure won't die like it should. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:08:57 AM EDT
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My 2 cents here.
I've owned all the major .308 semi autos. If you are really going to shoot, get a quality AR10 derivative. Spend the money to get a good one. A family member has an LMT and it's very very nice. Mags are relatively inexpensive depending on brand. Lot's of after market support. Modular. I had an Armalite and it was good to go. Should have kept it. Don't mess with an M1A unless it's an older one with mostly GI parts. Especially the bolt, barrel and Op Rod. PTRs and DSA FALs are hit and miss. I'd pass. If you want an FAL find a pre-ban SAR48, Argentine or even an FN if you have the funds. Any FAL built by ARS will be good to go also. Mags are expensive now. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:19:18 AM EDT
[#26]
BM59?
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:36:58 AM EDT
[#27]
 Attached File Attached FileHere you go Just buy a charging handle 25.00 and buis from lanbos or modern warriors and a scope deal off gundeals and under 1100.00 for all Don't forget a adjustable gas block and rearden or liberty plan B muzzle device OK now 1200.00
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:48:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By davidb1982: I was surprised to see we can still get mini 14s and Ruger PC carbines. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By davidb1982: Originally Posted By tac556: Originally Posted By Mars87: Take a breath. AR10s, M1As, PTR91s, etc, are all for sale in California. They will still be for sale in Colorado. Wrong- Other states figured out CA’s “mistakes” in their ban. Can’t get those in WA currently as a result…. I was surprised to see we can still get mini 14s and Ruger PC carbines. Because you can remove the heat shields on Minis, and the PC doesn’t have one either. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:51:04 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BullpupFan: Since we're spending each others' money (serious thank-you shout-out to @PointBlank82 for hooking a brother up!) why not go G3K-clonish... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/328408/95E282AA-84A4-4FB0-8220-F51BF9C54DCC_jpeg-968274.JPG Pure sex…. I might have something quite similar in the safe… |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:12:04 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: A sentence that isn’t in the bill. If you’re going to code brown yourself, just buy one of everything. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: Originally Posted By tac556: Takes exactly 1 sentence to make it 100% worse. A sentence that isn’t in the bill. If you’re going to code brown yourself, just buy one of everything. Proposed laws are subject to amendment, and generally go thru several different versions before they get to a governors desk for signing. Until it becomes law, you have absolutely zero knowledge of how the exact wording of the final bill will end up. One sentence can be added in 5 minutes when they are reconciling between the house and senate versions. Or deleted, if they figure they can’t get the votes to pass in both houses. We see it all the time- a state house passes a bill. State senate passes a similar bill, with somewhat different provisions. They then have to work out which one needs to amend their version, maybe both. This is 100% how WA’s ban went down. Wording changed a few times along the way. Stuff was taken out, other stuff was left in. They learn from other states and see what challenges happen, and try to head them off. Perhaps you have heard of a similar situation (federally) called the Hughes Amendment to the Firearms Owners Protection Act? A bill that was generally favorable for gun owners? (Yeah- it fucked us for new machine guns). Being complacent is a bad way to approach it…. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:39:59 AM EDT
[#31]
I owned a FN FAL, I was disappointed with its accuracy. 168 grain SMK's were still 3 moa at 100. HK 91's are worse and ruin brass.
I own two Springfield Armory Super Match rifles that are hammers, the problem is I can't see iron sights any longer as I approach 70 years of age. My AR-10's are perfect as far as accuracy, reliability, scope/red dot mounting, trigger upgrades, adjustable length of pull, future parts replacement, ease of maintenance, the ability to swap calibers/uppers and the manual of arms is identical to an AR-15. I have Armalite AR10's with the old school metal magazines. Most people would be better served with DPMS/Magpul/KAC style magazines, but I prefer the AR10B option. You won't be "bored" if you buy a quality rifle that is accurate and reliable. I have one Lilja barreled upper and two Noveske barreled uppers, they all shoot better than 1 moa with Sierra bullets. Ammo quality is more important than barrel quality IME. You will be surprised at how well a factory rifle will shoot with premium ammo. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 7:15:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2024 7:37:12 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: I owned a FN FAL, I was disappointed with its accuracy. 168 grain SMK's were still 3 moa at 100. They can be more accurate than people think. Mine barely stabilizes the 168 SMKs. I've heard 1:12 barrels can be hit and miss with them. If they so much as kissed a blade of grass they'd start tumbling. It does, however, really like the 155 grain AMAX and ELD bullets from Hornady. Stabilizes without a problem and produces better groups. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:08:01 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: They can be more accurate than people think. Mine barely stabilizes the 168 SMKs. I've heard 1:12 barrels can be hit and miss with them. If they so much as kissed a blade of grass they'd start tumbling. It does, however, really like the 155 grain AMAX and ELD bullets from Hornady. Stabilizes without a problem and produces better groups. Their accuracy can also vary considerably between examples. I had a shitload of FALs back when I played FAL pokemon, many factory guns and 7–8 kit builds. When I eventually found ammunition that delivered near MOA (5 shot) out of my most accurate FAL (an Argentine kit gun), that would still barely manage 3 MOA in most of the others. Then you start chasing the which load per rifle thing or start regrinding locking shoulders and realize you're never going to overcome the tilting block. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:16:34 AM EDT
[#35]
I'm partial to FALs but it boils down to what you what to do with it. If you want to get a piece of history get a FAL or H&K G3, one downside to the FAL is you should only shoot mil spec ammo. If you want something different and modern get an AR10 "other".
It is pretty hard to beat the AR platform, you can make it into whatever you want. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 6:11:19 PM EDT
[#36]
Given my states leaning position, I have decided on the ar10 platform.
.308 lower builds are on the radar. Platform is confusing. I'm learning. PSA lowers are tempting, but I'm stuck with PSA uppers then right? |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:09:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: Given my states leaning position, I have decided on the ar10 platform. .308 lower builds are on the radar. Platform is confusing. I'm learning. PSA lowers are tempting, but I'm stuck with PSA uppers then right? What's your budget? |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:16:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: USMC_JA]
[#38]
Quote History@feetpiece You gave me a legit LOL moment. 
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AK, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:01:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: feetpiece]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: My APC 308 was okay for accuracy but the LMT MARS-H kicks the other rifles to the curb in accuracy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2851/IMG_2874_jpeg-3188244.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: My APC 308 was okay for accuracy but the LMT MARS-H kicks the other rifles to the curb in accuracy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2851/IMG_2874_jpeg-3188244.JPG See, I really want an APC308 but not for more than an LRP-07 or a spare MWS. Originally Posted By Lou_Daks: FAL has mediocre accuracy, and a crap trigger.  |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:13:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: Given my states leaning position, I have decided on the ar10 platform. .308 lower builds are on the radar. Platform is confusing. I'm learning. PSA lowers are tempting, but I'm stuck with PSA uppers then right? Just buy this and be done. https://palmettostatearmory.com/armalite-308-win-7-62-semi-automatic-ar-10-rifle-ar10tac14.html  I did. Shows up sometime next week
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AK, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:17:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA: @feetpiece You gave me a legit LOL moment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA: @feetpiece You gave me a legit LOL moment. It's how I imagine finding out I need to spend another grand on a trigger, grip, sling mounts and basic loadout of proprietary mags after throwing ~$3K at a 2MOA rifle that eats optics. 
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:26:29 PM EDT
[#42]
308 pounds
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:18:37 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: It's how I imagine finding out I need to spend another grand on a trigger, grip, sling mounts and basic loadout of proprietary mags after throwing ~$3K at a 2MOA rifle that eats optics. http://i.imgur.com/pQzDcYc.jpg Yup. SCAR was a huge disappointment for me. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:19:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headspacer: Just buy this and be done. https://palmettostatearmory.com/armalite-308-win-7-62-semi-automatic-ar-10-rifle-ar10tac14.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7af8331bf1196ca28793bd1e8f6ecc7b/7/7/774913.png I did. Shows up sometime next week Pinned brake is a no-go |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:25:34 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gr0g: I'm partial to FALs but it boils down to what you what to do with it. If you want to get a piece of history get a FAL or H&K G3, one downside to the FAL is you should only shoot mil spec ammo. If you want something different and modern get an AR10 "other". It is pretty hard to beat the AR platform, you can make it into whatever you want. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:14:29 AM EDT
[#46]
Just buy the M1A you already said you were going to buy, and pick up some AR10 lowers. Build them out as funds allow.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 4:59:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tobysi]
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Posted: 4/19/2024 5:09:29 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: See, I really want an APC308 but not for more than an LRP-07 or a spare MWS. https://media1.tenor.com/m/mU-Gas0D_r0AAAAd/dis-gon-b-gud-this-is-gonna-be-good.gif I've got an LRP-07. Its a hammer. But heavy and a different gun than my APC308. You can get an APC308 for less than a JP or LMT. IM me if you are really interested.  
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Posted: 4/19/2024 5:17:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:43:47 PM EDT
[#50]
@crownvic96
Made it to the range today. Prone with my shooting mat in the gravel resting the grip base on my go bag. 64° and sunny Optic is a SLX 3X Here’s a pair of 3 shot groups at 100 Hornady TAP 168  Attached FileM118 LR  Attached File |
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