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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:16:08 PM EDT
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Question for those isolationists how many defense contractors do you think we'd have left if we stopped all military related foreign aid tomorrow? Look how fucked we are with the inability to keep up with Ukraine, do you think that would get better or worse? In our current state we'd face an uphill battle with our current industrial might and its ability to respond, imagine if that ability were halved or more.
For those perhaps too dense to understand you realize during relative peacetime the only reason Lake City can keep going is because of civilian sales? If there are no customers the labor goes, the knowledge goes, and our ability to do anything in a timely manner will be gone, in many cases forever. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:17:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sc16: Same reason we give the richest scumbags in this country, all the tax loopholes and breaks🤷🏻♂️ LOL. You ought to do some research on who pays taxes in this county and quit listening to your dick sucking boyfriends. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:23:24 PM EDT
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In this case, the actual GDP means more than the "GDP per capita".
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:24:05 PM EDT
[#4]
How dare you even ask?
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:26:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: He's either trolling or believes the far left propaganda which is becoming and unsurprising occurrence here these days. As of 8 April 2024, over 34,000 people (33,091 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel Hamas war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war I have no issue with Israel prosecuting a war in light of the October 7, terrorist attack, but when you look at the level of civilian casualties, and you factor in all the Israeli officials actively calling for the expulsion of the Palestinians from Gaza, it starts to look a lot like ethnic cleansing.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:27:29 PM EDT
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:28:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: Loads of intelligence Land for an air force base An ally in a "hot" region A distraction for terrorists  Didn’t they give us the intel on Iraq that was totally wrong? |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:30:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PeepEater]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Question for those isolationists how many defense contractors do you think we'd have left if we stopped all military related foreign aid tomorrow? Look how fucked we are with the inability to keep up with Ukraine, do you think that would get better or worse? In our current state we'd face an uphill battle with our current industrial might and its ability to respond, imagine if that ability were halved or more. For those perhaps too dense to understand you realize during relative peacetime the only reason Lake City can keep going is because of civilian sales? If there are no customers the labor goes, the knowledge goes, and our ability to do anything in a timely manner will be gone, in many cases forever. You make it sound like defense contractors are vital to something other than the defense contracting industry while everyone else develops off the shelf solutions to their problems. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:30:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cancard: Israel is 1/10th of 1% of the land mass that is the Middle East. If we didn’t subsidize Israel, there would be no Israel. Of course we can always spend our tax money on wokism horseshit and welfare. How about we waste it on neither? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:31:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRShooter: LOL. You ought to do some research on who pays taxes in this county and quit listening to your dick sucking boyfriends. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRShooter: Originally Posted By sc16: Same reason we give the richest scumbags in this country, all the tax loopholes and breaks🤷🏻♂️ LOL. You ought to do some research on who pays taxes in this county and quit listening to your dick sucking boyfriends. The research has already been done: Leak Reveals How Soros, Bezos, and Other Famous Billionaires Avoid Paying Taxes George Soros paid no federal income tax three years in a row, according to a report released Tuesday by ProPublica. Soros is among the famous billionaires—many of whom are leftist advocates of high taxes and big government—who paid less of their wealth to the taxman than many working-class Americans, ProPublica reports. Those named in the report as paying very low taxes—and in some cases no income taxes at all—include Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Michael Bloomberg, Carl Icahn, Elon Musk, George Soros, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg. Congress got right on this... to stop the leaks: Leak of billionaires’ tax data draws GOP outcry over privacy (2021) 
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:32:40 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Or maybe they'd be too busy trying to pay the rent to fight each other. We subsidize Hamas with infrastructure, they turn it into bombs. We subsidize Israel with bombs, they drop them on the infrastructure we just built. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/76d546cdbdb39980097941407529c54ae1a9985f-3188501.JPG This might be one of the greatest memes…Ever |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:41:59 PM EDT
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The numbers are disputed. The "Palestinians" (amongst other peoples) are very well known for inflating numbers, faking deaths, and crediting friendly fire deaths to Israel. For example, do you have any idea how many rockets fired from Gaza actually land in Gaza?
Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that Hamas uses human shields? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that civilians choose to be human shields? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children shoot at soldiers? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children stab soldiers? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children strap bombs to their bodies? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children hide grenades in their pockets and pull the pins when they walk past Israeli soldiers? Have you ever heard of Pallywood? Your conclusion based on dubious numbers is low IQ thinking, respectfully. This is what happens when a professional, Westernized 1st world power goes to war with 3rd world terrorists. Gaza isn't a country, it isn't a nation. It is a region held by terrorists, it is Fallujah 2004 or Kandahar. And if you know a method to prosecute war without civilian deaths, please share it with the world. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Not trolling, math. As of 8 April 2024, over 34,000 people (33,091 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel Hamas war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war I have no issue with Israel prosecuting a war in light of the October 7, terrorist attack, but when you look at the level of civilian casualties, and you factor in all the Israeli officials actively calling for the expulsion of the Palestinians from Gaza, it starts to look a lot like ethnic cleansing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1712347140948433_jpg-3188707.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1704057618967012_png-3188708.JPG |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:52:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556NAT0: The numbers are disputed. The "Palestinians" (amongst other peoples) are very well known for inflating numbers, faking deaths, and crediting friendly fire deaths to Israel. For example, do you have any idea how many rockets fired from Gaza actually land in Gaza? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that Hamas uses human shields? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that civilians choose to be human shields? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children shoot at soldiers? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children stab soldiers? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children strap bombs to their bodies? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children hide grenades in their pockets and pull the pins when they walk past Israeli soldiers? Have you ever heard of Pallywood? Your conclusion based on dubious numbers is low IQ thinking, respectfully. This is what happens when a professional, Westernized 1st world power goes to war with 3rd world terrorists. Gaza isn't a country, it isn't a nation. It is a region held by terrorists, it is Fallujah 2004 or Kandahar. And if you know a method to prosecute war without civilian deaths, please share it with the world.  Attached File |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:54:40 PM EDT
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Because of some old bible quotes.
That and a large number of congress creatures are part of the tribe and hold dual citizenship. Then there’s blackmail operations like the one Epstein ran. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:57:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: medicmandan]
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:58:06 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kraquine: One of the developments of late is that the U.S. recently gave Israel $250M and Israel is going to buy more U.S. F-15's. I tried a version of that process for a dozen holly bushes at Lowes this weekend but they weren't havin' it. That’s kind of like me handing out vouchers to passers by good for $20 but only if they spend it at my garage sale. I didn’t really gain anything from the transaction. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:58:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Not trolling, math. As of 8 April 2024, over 34,000 people (33,091 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel Hamas war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war I have no issue with Israel prosecuting a war in light of the October 7, terrorist attack, but when you look at the level of civilian casualties, and you factor in all the Israeli officials actively calling for the expulsion of the Palestinians from Gaza, it starts to look a lot like ethnic cleansing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1712347140948433_jpg-3188707.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1704057618967012_png-3188708.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: He's either trolling or believes the far left propaganda which is becoming and unsurprising occurrence here these days. As of 8 April 2024, over 34,000 people (33,091 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel Hamas war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war I have no issue with Israel prosecuting a war in light of the October 7, terrorist attack, but when you look at the level of civilian casualties, and you factor in all the Israeli officials actively calling for the expulsion of the Palestinians from Gaza, it starts to look a lot like ethnic cleansing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1712347140948433_jpg-3188707.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1704057618967012_png-3188708.JPG I did Nazi that coming. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:58:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: warlord]
[#18]
Keep in mind for the founding of the US, they were Christian people who were dissatisfied with the Anglican Church of England.
The Meaning Behind the 13 Folds of Old Glory The 11th fold represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Kings David and Solomon were Jews, and so was Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Covertness: Because it supports our military industrial complex. If we didn’t give them money and make them buy our shit with it they’d just build their own shit with their own money. Why not use the money to build our own shit instead? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:00:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kraquine: One of the developments of late is that the U.S. recently gave Israel $250M and Israel is going to buy more U.S. F-15's. I tried a version of that process for a dozen holly bushes at Lowes this weekend but they weren't havin' it. How many F-15s does $250 million buy? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:01:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Not trolling, math. As of 8 April 2024, over 34,000 people (33,091 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel Hamas war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war I have no issue with Israel prosecuting a war in light of the October 7, terrorist attack, but when you look at the level of civilian casualties, and you factor in all the Israeli officials actively calling for the expulsion of the Palestinians from Gaza, it starts to look a lot like ethnic cleansing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1712347140948433_jpg-3188707.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1704057618967012_png-3188708.JPG Who is providing those numbers? They're propaganda which the UN is passing on as accurate from the Gaza Ministry of Health, the same organization that was helping to hide Hamas military leadership. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:02:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: The number should be zero. We run the most backwards empire in history. We pay everyone for the privilege of protecting everyone. Yet of Israel, they're the only one that's rich in terms of GDP per capita. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By Paul: What countries don't we subsidize?  In 2023, the United States spent nearly $61 billion on foreign aid. Fully half of that budget has gone to just ten countries: Ukraine ($16.4 billion) Israel ($3.3 billion) Ethiopia ($1.95 billion) Jordan ($1.65 billion) Egypt ($1.43 billion) Afghanistan ($1.19 billion) Somalia ($1.13 billion) Yemen ($1.05 billion) Congo ($987 million) Syria ($896 million) The 2024 foreign aid budget was released in February, 2024. Many of these numbers can change for example, in 2023, just under $775 million was budgeted for Syria. However, the actual disbursements increased by $121 million (in part due to the earthquake that hit Syria and T rkiye). That said, the proposed budget for 2024 is a little over $50 billion, roughly 17% less than 2023, with 20% of that budget requested for just ten countries: Israel ($3.3 billion) Jordan ($1,45 billion) Egypt ($1,43 billion) Ukraine ($774 million) Nigeria ($625 million) Mozambique ($564 million) Uganda ($562 million) Tanzania ($561 million) Kenya ($514 million) Zambia ($507 million) We should adopt the mob’s protection racket. “Say that’s a nice country you have there. Be ashame if something happened to it.” |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:04:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeuceGoon: Our greatest allies, I didn't see a single one in GWOT. I have pointed that out before. Usually in response you’ll get some horse shit answer about not wanting to offend the people we’re fighting by bringing Israelis into the fight. Same reason is given for why we don’t use Israel as a staging ground for our Mideast adventures. Seems like a rather useless ally. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:09:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OscarD: I have pointed that out before. Usually in response you’ll get some horse shit answer about not wanting to offend the people we’re fighting by bringing Israelis into the fight. Same reason is given for why we don’t use Israel as a staging ground for our Mideast adventures. Seems like a rather useless ally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OscarD: Originally Posted By DeuceGoon: Our greatest allies, I didn't see a single one in GWOT. I have pointed that out before. Usually in response you’ll get some horse shit answer about not wanting to offend the people we’re fighting by bringing Israelis into the fight. Same reason is given for why we don’t use Israel as a staging ground for our Mideast adventures. Seems like a rather useless ally. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/israeli-military-equipment-used-by-the-u-s |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:12:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: The mistake you're making is thinking this a war with "good guys" in it. There are no good guys here. Two tribes who hate each other. Let them work it out, preferably without our tax dollars. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1709676974859677_jpg-3188726.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By 556NAT0: The numbers are disputed. The "Palestinians" (amongst other peoples) are very well known for inflating numbers, faking deaths, and crediting friendly fire deaths to Israel. For example, do you have any idea how many rockets fired from Gaza actually land in Gaza? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that Hamas uses human shields? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that civilians choose to be human shields? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children shoot at soldiers? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children stab soldiers? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children strap bombs to their bodies? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children hide grenades in their pockets and pull the pins when they walk past Israeli soldiers? Have you ever heard of Pallywood? Your conclusion based on dubious numbers is low IQ thinking, respectfully. This is what happens when a professional, Westernized 1st world power goes to war with 3rd world terrorists. Gaza isn't a country, it isn't a nation. It is a region held by terrorists, it is Fallujah 2004 or Kandahar. And if you know a method to prosecute war without civilian deaths, please share it with the world. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1709676974859677_jpg-3188726.JPG Did you actually read any of those articles or you just buying propaganda at face value? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:26:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Did you actually read any of those articles or you just buying propaganda at face value? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Originally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By 556NAT0: The numbers are disputed. The "Palestinians" (amongst other peoples) are very well known for inflating numbers, faking deaths, and crediting friendly fire deaths to Israel. For example, do you have any idea how many rockets fired from Gaza actually land in Gaza? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that Hamas uses human shields? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that civilians choose to be human shields? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children shoot at soldiers? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children stab soldiers? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children strap bombs to their bodies? Is it really Israel's fault or Hamas' fault, that women and children hide grenades in their pockets and pull the pins when they walk past Israeli soldiers? Have you ever heard of Pallywood? Your conclusion based on dubious numbers is low IQ thinking, respectfully. This is what happens when a professional, Westernized 1st world power goes to war with 3rd world terrorists. Gaza isn't a country, it isn't a nation. It is a region held by terrorists, it is Fallujah 2004 or Kandahar. And if you know a method to prosecute war without civilian deaths, please share it with the world. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1709676974859677_jpg-3188726.JPG Did you actually read any of those articles or you just buying propaganda at face value? Dont answer questions with questions. He said something very true. Face it head on. There are no good guys, just two tribes that hate each other. Let them fight without our tax dollars/aid. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:28:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Did you actually read any of those articles or you just buying propaganda at face value? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:29:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OscarD]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/israeli-military-equipment-used-by-the-u-s Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Originally Posted By OscarD: Originally Posted By DeuceGoon: Our greatest allies, I didn't see a single one in GWOT. I have pointed that out before. Usually in response you’ll get some horse shit answer about not wanting to offend the people we’re fighting by bringing Israelis into the fight. Same reason is given for why we don’t use Israel as a staging ground for our Mideast adventures. Seems like a rather useless ally. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/israeli-military-equipment-used-by-the-u-s I kept scrolling down expecting them to claim they invented peanut butter. Just to pick on one of the claims in that link reactive armor was not invented in Israel. The US and Soviets were experimenting with it back in the 50’s. Israel developed what they used with West Germany. Israel was the first to deploy it in large scale but did not invent it by any means. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:30:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JG_Wentworth]
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The question is how come we don't give free money and weapons to Taiwan, south korea or Japan? We always make them buy our stuff
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:31:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: 1. Loads of intelligence. Possibly. But unverifiable. "Israel is really helpful, just trust us." CIA (probably). 2. Air Force Base. Have we ever launched a strike from an Israeli base? We didn't get to use it in either Gulf War I or II, but we did get to defend Israel from the SCUDs. 3. An ally in a "hot" region. Isn't the region hot in large part because we defend Israel? 4. A distraction for terrorists. Question. Absent our support for Israel, would these terrorists be targeting us? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By djkest: Loads of intelligence Land for an air force base An ally in a "hot" region A distraction for terrorists 2. Air Force Base. Have we ever launched a strike from an Israeli base? We didn't get to use it in either Gulf War I or II, but we did get to defend Israel from the SCUDs. 3. An ally in a "hot" region. Isn't the region hot in large part because we defend Israel? 4. A distraction for terrorists. Question. Absent our support for Israel, would these terrorists be targeting us? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:31:49 PM EDT
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Never spend your own money if you can spend someone else's ?
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:34:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Not trolling, math. As of 8 April 2024, over 34,000 people (33,091 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel Hamas war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war I have no issue with Israel prosecuting a war in light of the October 7, terrorist attack, but when you look at the level of civilian casualties, and you factor in all the Israeli officials actively calling for the expulsion of the Palestinians from Gaza, it starts to look a lot like ethnic cleansing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1712347140948433_jpg-3188707.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1704057618967012_png-3188708.JPG Good. Give them more money now that they've finally come to their fucking senses. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:36:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OscarD: I have pointed that out before. Usually in response you’ll get some horse shit answer about not wanting to offend the people we’re fighting by bringing Israelis into the fight. Same reason is given for why we don’t use Israel as a staging ground for our Mideast adventures. Seems like a rather useless ally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OscarD: I have pointed that out before. Usually in response you’ll get some horse shit answer about not wanting to offend the people we’re fighting by bringing Israelis into the fight. Same reason is given for why we don’t use Israel as a staging ground for our Mideast adventures. Seems like a rather useless ally. How well do you think the coalition of Arab nations would hold together if Israel joined? Originally Posted By JG_Wentworth: The question is how come we don't give free money and weapons to Taiwan, south korea or Japan? We always make them buy our stuff Because they aren't being invaded right now and having Chinese or North Korean missiles rain down on them. If my neighbor is being attacked by a burglar am I going to stop and argue about the price of ammunition or gear with him first? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:42:04 PM EDT
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Stop asking questions you stupid goy. You aren't permitted to notice.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:43:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Question for those isolationists how many defense contractors do you think we'd have left if we stopped all military related foreign aid tomorrow? Look how fucked we are with the inability to keep up with Ukraine, do you think that would get better or worse? In our current state we'd face an uphill battle with our current industrial might and its ability to respond, imagine if that ability were halved or more. For those perhaps too dense to understand you realize during relative peacetime the only reason Lake City can keep going is because of civilian sales? If there are no customers the labor goes, the knowledge goes, and our ability to do anything in a timely manner will be gone, in many cases forever. Gotta keep making wars so we don't forget how to make wars.  |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:45:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R_S: You'll never guess who is at the top of the list... Money from Pro-Israel to US Senators, 1990-2024 Remember what Charlie Wilson used to say about himself? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:50:44 PM EDT
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They have really good bagels.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:52:56 PM EDT
[#38]
And they provide intel that is unobtanium anywhere else.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:56:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _Nataraja_: LMAO. They've been fighting GWOT daily for 75 years, what need do they have to deploy away from home? That's like saying people who weren't stationed where you were didn't help in GWOT. Regardless, if you used coms, basically any advanced electronic, medicine, heck even urban warfare tactics or desert warfare, you my friend, got a little IDF in you. Bet that makes you feel all dirty lol. lol. No most of those break through were made in the US or made in a chip factory In Taiwan. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:56:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cancard: Israel is 1/10th of 1% of the land mass that is the Middle East. If we didn’t subsidize Israel, there would be no Israel. Of course we can always spend our tax money on wokism horseshit and welfare. I do find the bolt part interesting. Welfare for a foreign country is good, but welfare for American citizens is bad. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 4:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PanzerOfDoom: Because the bury my head in the sand isolationists are retarded. Washington was right on Foreign Entanglements as Jefferson was right about Alliances. The era of adventurism and empire are over, they bankrupted us, after costing us our republic and our freedoms, again, just as the Founders warned us. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:05:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Not trolling, math. As of 8 April 2024, over 34,000 people (33,091 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel Hamas war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war I have no issue with Israel prosecuting a war in light of the October 7, terrorist attack, but when you look at the level of civilian casualties, and you factor in all the Israeli officials actively calling for the expulsion of the Palestinians from Gaza, it starts to look a lot like ethnic cleansing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1712347140948433_jpg-3188707.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1704057618967012_png-3188708.JPG First off, prove any of those numbers or quotes are true (you can't, but yet have no problem accepting them as truth, because that fits into your ontological view, which includes Jews=bad.) You're taking quotes made specifically under the pretense of being anti-Israel and trying to pass them off as truth. You're taking numbers directly from Hamas. Lol. lol. lol. Second, if they are true, who cares? What do you say about a people who's sole purpose for existing is murder? Have you read the hamas charter? Go now. Have you studied "palestine" beyond gulping up propaganda? Research on how, when and why they were kicked out of each of the Arab countries that hosted/tried to help them. Lol. The leader of Egypt said he would sacrifice every citizen without hesitation to keep a single pali out of Egypt. You seem to be mistaking "genocide" for "live." What about the 10,000 + rockets they launched at Israel since 2005? This is a group of the absolute worst of the worst in Arab and Islamic culture all gathered in one place because they've been booted out of everywhere else. They have no history except hate, murder, and violence. They've contributed nothing to the world, ever. Not even with 10s of billions in free money (actual free money without conditions or oversight, not "subsidizing" as you called it) and all they could do was learn to build rockets, build tunnels, and smuggle small arms. They literally did nothing of worth for nearly 10 years of total autonomy. But here you are, thinking they can be rehabilitated apparently, same as leftists who think there aren't consequences for anything. The only thing you've managed to prove is that you're a leftist supporting woke ideals. If that's your thing, fine, but at least own it. You align with people so vile that even other Muslims hate them with a passion and want them dead, enough said. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:10:40 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar: This thread won't go well if someone actually tells you why. Qft We'll see how far we go with being allies soon I guess |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:16:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: happycynic]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _Nataraja_: First off, prove any of those numbers or quotes are true (you can't, but yet have no problem accepting them as truth, because that fits into your ontological view, which includes Jews=bad.) You're taking quotes made specifically under the pretense of being anti-Israel and trying to pass them off as truth. You're taking numbers directly from Hamas. Lol. lol. lol. Second, if they are true, who cares? What do you say about a people who's sole purpose for existing is murder? Have you read the hamas charter? Go now. Have you studied "palestine" beyond gulping up propaganda? Research on how, when and why they were kicked out of each of the Arab countries that hosted/tried to help them. Lol. The leader of Egypt said he would sacrifice every citizen without hesitation to keep a single pali out of Egypt. You seem to be mistaking "genocide" for "live." What about the 10,000 + rockets they launched at Israel since 2005? This is a group of the absolute worst of the worst in Arab and Islamic culture all gathered in one place because they've been booted out of everywhere else. They have no history except hate, murder, and violence. They've contributed nothing to the world, ever. Not even with 10s of billions in free money (actual free money without conditions or oversight, not "subsidizing" as you called it) and all they could do was learn to build rockets, build tunnels, and smuggle small arms. They literally did nothing of worth for nearly 10 years of total autonomy. But here you are, thinking they can be rehabilitated apparently, same as leftists who think there aren't consequences for anything. The only thing you've managed to prove is that you're a leftist supporting woke ideals. If that's your thing, fine, but at least own it. You align with people so vile that even other Muslims hate them with a passion and want them dead, enough said. And for the record, I don't want to side with either party to this conflict. Since they both think God gave them the entirety of that worthless desert, let God decide, not the U.S. taxpayer. I have this quaint notion that U.S. foreign policy should benefit the U.S.  God Wills It from Kingdom of Heaven |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:17:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: They're our most reliable ally in the region Using that logic, why can't they subsidize us? Roy |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:20:01 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Washington was right on Foreign Entanglements as Jefferson was right about Alliances. The era of adventurism and empire are over, they bankrupted us, after costing us our republic and our freedoms, again, just as the Founders warned us. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom: Because the bury my head in the sand isolationists are retarded. Washington was right on Foreign Entanglements as Jefferson was right about Alliances. The era of adventurism and empire are over, they bankrupted us, after costing us our republic and our freedoms, again, just as the Founders warned us. Unfortunately for us their world is no longer the one in which we live. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:21:31 PM EDT
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The nutbars Israel is fighting would be fighting us if Israel weren't in the way
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:22:10 PM EDT
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A better question is why do we subsidize the islamists when all they want to do is kill all of us ?
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:25:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SDGlock23]
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Look at how many of "them" (2% of the population) are in .gov and run some of the largest businesses in America. They love them some dual citizenship.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 5:29:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Not trolling, math. As of 8 April 2024, over 34,000 people (33,091 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel Hamas war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war I have no issue with Israel prosecuting a war in light of the October 7, terrorist attack, but when you look at the level of civilian casualties, and you factor in all the Israeli officials actively calling for the expulsion of the Palestinians from Gaza, it starts to look a lot like ethnic cleansing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1712347140948433_jpg-3188707.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/1704057618967012_png-3188708.JPG Should we have stopped bombing German cities in WW2? Over 70% of Gaznians support Hamas and it's actions. When they're training their kids to kill Israelis it really removes the argument that any of them are noncombatants |
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