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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:04:45 PM EDT
[#1]
4 has a better engine and graphics. New Vegas has a better "everything else".
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Did you notice what the last shot was of S1 (or one of the last shots)? Click To View Spoiler Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:14:25 PM EDT
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New Vegas by far.
The story, characters, immersion is much better in new Vegas. However, I enjoy FO4 as well. I like the weapon crafting in FO4. Much more in depth. But they didn’t do the different ammo types. FO4 also had some lore changes I didn’t like, but made sense gameplay wise. For example, fusion cores should last a lot longer…as in…really never die in the timeline the game takes place in. New Vegas had a lot of content cut and the NCR overwhelms many of the areas in the game…kinda forcing you to play nice with them for a majority of the game. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:18:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JsARCLIGHT: My complaint about the power armor in 4 was that it needed depleting fuel to run and it did not require your character to actually have any training in how to use it. Historically power armor was locked behind training and availability as it was a major force multiplier. Removing the training and creating basically a gameplay timer by using fuel cells was kind of goofy as you end up finding so many fuel cells it negates the restriction anyway. It only made sense if you played as Nate. He served in the military previously and probably had training in power armor. It doesn’t really make sense if you played as Nora though with her background in law. They should’ve probably added some challenges if you chose to go with a female build. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:32:49 AM EDT
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Crazy how popular New Vegas is with fans, Obsidian Entertainment showed up those Bethesda fools.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:44:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Crazy how popular New Vegas is with fans, Obsidian Entertainment showed up those Bethesda fools. Funny thing is for Fallout Wasteland Warfare, the New Vegas wave of miniatures did not sell nearly as well as the other waves (Commonwealth, Capital, Enclave, Institute, Forged, etc) and employees have commented that they didn't even break even vs production costs. The New Vegas fans are vocal but they don't spend money like other fans. Kharn |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:55:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CharlesUFina]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nutation: The first dance at my wedding was to "In the Shadow of the Valley". Nerd level: 100. Very cool. Currently re-playing NV. 4 was meh. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:06:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlutealCleft: 4 has a better engine and graphics. New Vegas has a better "everything else". this, I actually like 3 best of all.... |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:07:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brutus_15: Vegas for me and I really enjoyed 4. Might be unpopular, but I wish Vegas had the gunplay and shooting mechanics of 4. This. The story in F:NV is fantastic, but I liked the gameplay in F4 better. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:19:20 AM EDT
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For those running either FONV or FO4 on PC, what mods are you running?
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:20:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Just an FYI .. Fallout 4 is $4.99 until the 25th of this month on PS... I thought I already had it.. But apparently I bought it on xbox... Gonna need to do another play through
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:40:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spade: Better than the others? Fallout 2 is best Fallout. Agreed. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:57:43 AM EDT
[#13]
Fallout 4 has better gameplay. The settlement mode is kinda fun to play around with, but it’s mostly pointless. The story was just okay IMO.
New Vegas has better story and more memorable characters. Gameplay is worse, but it plays better than Fallout 3. I vote New Vegas. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:20:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I wish Obsidian would do more. Outer Worlds and it's coming sequel come to mind. I've wasted hundreds of hours on the first one and DLC. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:00:16 AM EDT
[#15]
FO: NV for story.
FO4 for game mechanics and pure open world fun. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:05:22 AM EDT
[#16]
I'm a huge NV fan, but will admit that 4 is a good game. Agree with it having better gameplay and gunplay.
I've never been a huge fan of 3, for some reason. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:24:31 PM EDT
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I’m still amazed at sitting on top of skyscrapers in fo4 and watching random npcs outside my general area do battle a mile away at ground level.
Then being able to drop a mini nuke on the survivors. It’s like you’re just a small part of what’s actually going on at any given moment. Coming from pong to that still impresses me. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:43:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deadmau5er: A good Fallout MMO would be amazing. 76 just isn't good at all. I agree. A no shit FO MMO would be awesome. You could choose which ever faction you want. Build up settlements and crews. And go and attack others. And see who will be the ultimate Victor. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:00:58 PM EDT
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My understanding 76 suffered from 2 problems initially. First of all, it was not a game, just a game space - an unstable game space at that. After they added the NPC's it probably became somewhat better. They wanted a Fallout version of Fortnite I think.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:49:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deadmau5er: New Vegas by miles. Fuck. Yes. I loved New Vegas. I played that waaay more than any other game. I wish it was coop online though. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:58:15 PM EDT
[#21]
Someone uses Benny (from New Vegas) sound clips to call hookers.
Pretty funny.  Benny Calls Hookers Again - Fallout New Vegas Prank Call |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:05:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alien]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadMonkey: 4 I don't care for New Vegas very much |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:26:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TaskForce]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alien: This. I've played FO4 many times but F:NV only twice. It was good, but a little overrated. Same with the Outer Worlds. I do NOT see why people thought that game was fucking amazing. It was mediocre, but people have Obsidian goggles on that blind them I guess. If NV's and Outer Worlds stories and levels of choice and consequence didn't grab you maybe you just don't really appreciate that about a game. F4 doesn't have anywhere close. It's why BGS had to make Far Harbor to prove they're capable of writing. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:29:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beitodesstrafe: I really enjoyed 4. I really liked the settlement construction and power armor collecting though.  3 will always be the best IMO. I'm not shitting on NV though... it's an excellent game. I built hangers for my power armor lol. So fun. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:31:29 PM EDT
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I did not get very far in Fallout 4 before deciding I should start earlier in the story line. From what I did play, I can say Fallout 4 plays like a legitimate shooter, while Fallout 3 feels like a downgrade from Half Life One, and New Vegas made just enough changes to the Fallout 3 engine to at least pretend to have modern shooter mechancis.
But an RPG is less about the shooting, and more about a semi-self written narrative. And in that respect, I believe New Vegas is the best RPG of the modern era. If you remade New Vegas, with the original voice acting, and just placed it in a new engine with decent shooter mechanics, it would be absolutely perfect. If Bethesda did that, every New Vegas player would trip over each other to shell out another $60 bucks. But that makes too much sense for Bethesda to do it.  |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:32:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Couch-Commando: I did not get very far in Fallout 4 before deciding I should start earlier in the story line. From what I did play, I can say Fallout 4 plays like a legitimate shooter, while Fallout 3 feels like a downgrade from Half Life One, and New Vegas made just enough changes to the Fallout 3 engine to at least pretend to have modern shooter mechancis. But an RPG is less about the shooting, and more about a semi-self written narrative. And in that respect, I believe New Vegas is the best RPG of the modern era. If you remade New Vegas, with the original voice acting, and just placed it in a new engine with decent shooter mechanics, it would be absolutely perfect. If Bethesda did that, every New Vegas player would trip over each other to shell out another $60 bucks. But that makes too much sense for Bethesda to do it. Never gonna happen. BGS doesn't like Obsidian's success with NV. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:35:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deadmau5er: Liberty Prime is the greatest part of Fallout - can we all agree on this?  Liberty Prime Sings Ain't I Right (Kits.AI) |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:36:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spade: Better than the others? Fallout 2 is best Fallout. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spade: Originally Posted By SoonerBorn: Vegas, but not by much. Both are heaps better than the others though, especially 76 Better than the others? Fallout 2 is best Fallout. Fallout 1 is a tighter plotted game, and honestly was more fun. FO2 has an insane amount of content and pathing though. Bethesda can set up a better sandbox than Interplay/Obsidian, but they can't write a compelling story to save their ass. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:38:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alien]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: If NV's and Outer Worlds stories and levels of choice and consequence didn't grab you maybe you just don't really appreciate that about a game. F4 doesn't have anywhere close. It's why BGS had to make Far Harbor to prove they're capable of writing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By Alien: This. I've played FO4 many times but F:NV only twice. It was good, but a little overrated. Same with the Outer Worlds. I do NOT see why people thought that game was fucking amazing. It was mediocre, but people have Obsidian goggles on that blind them I guess. If NV's and Outer Worlds stories and levels of choice and consequence didn't grab you maybe you just don't really appreciate that about a game. F4 doesn't have anywhere close. It's why BGS had to make Far Harbor to prove they're capable of writing. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:40:32 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: That's like comparing a Ferrari to a Lada. I can't stand fallout 4. A ferrari to a Nissan GT-R. More fun for most. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:40:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: That's like comparing a Ferrari to a Lada. I can't stand fallout 4. A ferrari to a Nissan GT-R. More fun for most. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:41:59 PM EDT
[#32]
76
Then 4 |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:43:31 PM EDT
[#33]
New Vegas was a lot of fun. Then I jumped to 76. Tried 4 a few months ago and it's absolute dog shit compare to 76. That game sucks.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:45:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beitodesstrafe: I'm guessing he's talking about from the lore perspective and the training that was required in the older games versus, suddenly not, in 4. That said, I loved building power armor garages. That’s a dopey argument people make just to shit on 4, story wise it would be retarded if the veteran who not too long ago fought the commies with power armor needed a tutorial on power armor.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:46:56 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alien: I liked F:NV. I liked it a lot. I just think it's a little overrated. The Outer Worlds got too repetitive and was just not all that interesting. I love choices and consequences. I just think The Outer Worlds just wasn't anything special and extremely overrated. I agree the Outer Worlds is a bit overrated in general. But I remember the choice and consequence being pretty damn good compared to F4. Of course they're very different games in scope. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:47:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hunter-Killer]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Couch-Commando: I did not get very far in Fallout 4 before deciding I should start earlier in the story line. From what I did play, I can say Fallout 4 plays like a legitimate shooter, while Fallout 3 feels like a downgrade from Half Life One, and New Vegas made just enough changes to the Fallout 3 engine to at least pretend to have modern shooter mechancis. But an RPG is less about the shooting, and more about a semi-self written narrative. And in that respect, I believe New Vegas is the best RPG of the modern era. If you remade New Vegas, with the original voice acting, and just placed it in a new engine with decent shooter mechanics, it would be absolutely perfect. If Bethesda did that, every New Vegas player would trip over each other to shell out another $60 bucks. But that makes too much sense for Bethesda to do it. My vote:  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:48:14 PM EDT
[#37]
76 is the best, fight me faggots.
(Just kidding) |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:49:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dbrad197: 76 is the best, fight me faggots. (Just kidding) I almost had a stroke. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:54:05 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I almost had a stroke. I liked 4. Then the ps5 cane out, and FO76 bugs fixed/runs great on ps5. Ive enjoyed online play/fort building/ all of 76 quests. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:55:27 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I almost had a stroke. I was going to leave out the “just kidding” part but didn’t feel like dealing with death threat DMs tonight. I haven’t played 76 since the first couple weeks of release, I heard the additions have made it a little better but l’ll just stick to my 4 and NV play throughs I think. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:56:32 PM EDT
[#41]
For those that don’t know , FO 4 is getting a next gen optimization and some added content on the 26th of this month.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:58:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kid_Sampson]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deadmau5er: New Vegas by miles. FPNI. Fall Out 4 is only good for one play though. Too narrow of a game, doesn't offer the freedom of New Vegas. ETA: To be clear, Fallout 2 is the best one yet. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:13:06 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dbrad197: I was going to leave out the “just kidding” part but didn’t feel like dealing with death threat DMs tonight. I haven’t played 76 since the first couple weeks of release, I heard the additions have made it a little better but l’ll just stick to my 4 and NV play throughs I think. Yeah they updated it a lot. If it had an offline mode I'd be more inclined to check it out again. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:17:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bud7h7]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brutus_15: Vegas for me and I really enjoyed 4. Might be unpopular, but I wish Vegas had the gunplay and shooting mechanics of 4. I reinstalled New Vegas recently and it's unplayable to me, the combat is so bad. The RPG factor is way better than 4 though. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:21:28 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Someone uses Benny (from New Vegas) sound clips to call hookers. Pretty funny.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12qCAKs5gf8Mostly love it for the FO2 world map 2 music in the outro. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:29:39 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Couch-Commando: I did not get very far in Fallout 4 before deciding I should start earlier in the story line. From what I did play, I can say Fallout 4 plays like a legitimate shooter, while Fallout 3 feels like a downgrade from Half Life One, and New Vegas made just enough changes to the Fallout 3 engine to at least pretend to have modern shooter mechancis. But an RPG is less about the shooting, and more about a semi-self written narrative. And in that respect, I believe New Vegas is the best RPG of the modern era. If you remade New Vegas, with the original voice acting, and just placed it in a new engine with decent shooter mechanics, it would be absolutely perfect. If Bethesda did that, every New Vegas player would trip over each other to shell out another $60 bucks. But that makes too much sense for Bethesda to do it. Second best IMO. Morrowind has NV by a long lead (and I love NV): the quests, varied environments, competing joinable factions - and very little handholding have led to me doing my umpteenth play through currently. There are no “protected” NPC’s, kill a key character, break quests, even the main quest. No point and click fast travel (yes, there are some pre-defined routes, and spells for getting to a safe place) means you get to actually explore, no quest markers so you get to follow maps and landmarks to find things. Hundreds of books to read, crazy options to create spells and enchantments, become a vampire and not be able to shop, just so much freedom. And no stupid companions that get in your way. I imagine those that are complaining about “gameplay” in FO3 or NV won’t be able to handle it, melee weapons are clunky at low levels. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:33:06 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: How exactly did Fallout 4 “completely ruin power armor”? Became some dumb mechwarrior nonsense, I liked the mechanics of the previous games, having to stomp around in a giant suit that limits what you can do is frustrating. Also the lore tied to BOS quests. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:34:45 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bud7h7: I reinstalled New Vegas recently and it's unplayable to me, the combat is so bad. The RPG factor is way better than 4 though. Have you played 76? 4 is unplayable to me. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:45:01 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Couch-Commando: I did not get very far in Fallout 4 before deciding I should start earlier in the story line. From what I did play, I can say Fallout 4 plays like a legitimate shooter, while Fallout 3 feels like a downgrade from Half Life One, and New Vegas made just enough changes to the Fallout 3 engine to at least pretend to have modern shooter mechancis. But an RPG is less about the shooting, and more about a semi-self written narrative. And in that respect, I believe New Vegas is the best RPG of the modern era. If you remade New Vegas, with the original voice acting, and just placed it in a new engine with decent shooter mechanics, it would be absolutely perfect. If Bethesda did that, every New Vegas player would trip over each other to shell out another $60 bucks. But that makes too much sense for Bethesda to do it. My vote from the games I've played is The Witcher 3. Once I got used to the interface and got into the game, I realized it was better than Fallout or Elder Scrolls, and I'm a big fan of both. The acting, the characters, the visuals, the writing, the game world, the consequences of choices and how it changes things, all amazing. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:49:26 AM EDT
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Starfield.
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