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Quoted: Our country is fucked.... We're full Banana Republic now. The scary thing is they're setting things up for a solution that is gonna be something/someone even worse (i.e. a Hitler, Putin, Xi) to come in and take over - cuz once a true democracy is lost, all that ensues is dictator...war lord, thug, etc. that comes in and kicks out the current regime. Annnnd, who's gonna save us? There was a time America was the Superman everyone looked up to, to come in and save them from the Booogey Dictator...but now that America's compromised, who's gonna save America? Makes me think of the 'Who's gonna watch the Watchmen' type thingy...Idk. View Quote Didn't we fight a revolution over this kinda "the law is what I say it is" bullshit? WTF?!? |
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Quoted: I’ve seen simple single count felony cases with the usual suspects get continued for years by public defenders. This is a complex, high profile, multi-felony case against a presidential candidate in a high stakes election and it can’t get continued by big shot lawyers? There’s got to be tens of thousands of pages of discovery. This is absolutely election interference of the highest order. If you don’t understand this and aren’t outraged by it, you’re either stupid or blinded by hate for Trump. View Quote 100% spot on! |
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Quoted: Trump has already stated he wants to take the stand to testify under Oath in this case. Trump's legal team must be rolling their eyes to the back of their heads over that one. Like every defendant, Trump has the RIGHT to remain silent Trump just does not have the ABILITY to remain silent... Bigger_Hammer View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Keep him in court. The quieter he is, the better he will do. Trump has already stated he wants to take the stand to testify under Oath in this case. Trump's legal team must be rolling their eyes to the back of their heads over that one. Like every defendant, Trump has the RIGHT to remain silent Trump just does not have the ABILITY to remain silent... Bigger_Hammer If he didn't speak, the leftist liars would speak for him. Just like n_ts do. |
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Quoted: How in the hell can the judge remain on this case? His daughter has worked on political stuff for Adam Schiff and Kamaltoe Harris, and an anti-Trump group. But he can still be the judge? If nothing the appearance of a conflict of interest is huge. View Quote Wait, the truth is supposed to matter? Which bullshit case is this? I've lost track of all the different ways they are trying to bury him. Supposedly deceiving the banks that didn't complain or lose money, or the "hush money", or the "interference" in elections, without actually interfering? |
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Maybe Trump should miss a day, get the warrant issued, and arrange his arrest while speaking at a campaign event.
That would be a great illustration of election interference. |
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I can't believe these judges walk around in public without looking over their shoulders.
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Quoted: Our country is fucked.... We're full Banana Republic now. The scary thing is they're setting things up for a solution that is gonna be something/someone even worse (i.e. a Hitler, Putin, Xi) to come in and take over - cuz once a true democracy is lost, all that ensues is dictator...war lord, thug, etc. that comes in and kicks out the current regime. Annnnd, who's gonna save us? There was a time America was the Superman everyone looked up to, to come in and save them from the Booogey Dictator...but now that America's compromised, who's gonna save America? Makes me think of the 'Who's gonna watch the Watchmen' type thingy...Idk. View Quote LOL the F you smoking man? Nobody looks up to us. No one. EVERYone hates us, they resent us for being the big kid in the playground and resent our power and influence. They resent having to listen when we tell them to do things. They resent having to jump every time we say Frog. They want to be the ones dictating terms. When we go down all of our so called allies will line up to kick sand in our face and say we deserved it / had it coming. Mark my words. |
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Quoted: FIFY He isn't criminal until convicted But I see you have joined the court of public opinion created by the MSM View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Requiring a FIFY He isn't criminal until convicted But I see you have joined the court of public opinion created by the MSM Quoted: Requiring a criminal defendant to show up for his own trial. ToTaLlY uNpReCeDeNtEd. |
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Quoted: I've seen simple single count felony cases with the usual suspects get continued for years by public defenders. This is a complex, high profile, multi-felony case against a presidential candidate in a high stakes election and it can't get continued by big shot lawyers? There's got to be tens of thousands of pages of discovery. This is absolutely election interference of the highest order. If you don't understand this and aren't outraged by it, you're either stupid or blinded by hate for Trump. View Quote I'm not saying it would have justified a dismissal but usually the judge would give the defense an adjournment |
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We have two of our higher profile leftists in here already, and a few others. I'm surprised our #1 isn't here yet, usually would be within the first 2-5 posts.
It's too bad I'm not rich or famous. At this point I'd happily go live a quiet life in Switzerland and be content to wake up looking at the beautiful views of the countryside even if it meant giving up owning all my guns. |
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Quoted: I'm curious why there isn't a very loud group of people having a protest in front of this guy's house that runs 24/7? View Quote |
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Everyone needs a shirt from Hawaii for the sentencing hearing.
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Quoted: Ooo ooo! I have an idea! How about we arrest these judges for their political ideological persecution which is not specified in the US Constitution as far as I can tell. Does the Venezuelan Bill of rights give them the authority to behave that way here? Not sure about that so we best protect ourselves and conduct an arrest to protect the United States. View Quote I support that |
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Quoted: Requiring a criminal defendant to show up for his own trial. ToTaLlY uNpReCeDeNtEd. View Quote Right? This aspect seems quite routine. Wy should Trump get special privileges in this regard? I know during my self-defense case if I had not shown up to court when required there would have been a warrant issued for my arrest absent some pretty convincing exigent circumstances and some great sweet-talking from my lawyer. What is bullshit is the case in the first place. Complete and utter BS with purely political motivations. |
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Quoted: Right? This aspect seems quite routine. Wy should Trump get special privileges in this regard? I know during my self-defense case if I had not shown up to court when required there would have been a warrant issued for my arrest absent some pretty convincing exigent circumstances and some great sweet-talking from my lawyer. What is bullshit is the case in the first place. Complete and utter BS with purely political motivations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Requiring a criminal defendant to show up for his own trial. ToTaLlY uNpReCeDeNtEd. Right? This aspect seems quite routine. Wy should Trump get special privileges in this regard? I know during my self-defense case if I had not shown up to court when required there would have been a warrant issued for my arrest absent some pretty convincing exigent circumstances and some great sweet-talking from my lawyer. What is bullshit is the case in the first place. Complete and utter BS with purely political motivations. The reason is in your second paragraph. It is a purely political persecution of the incumbent's opponent. If he is forced to appear in court for this sham trial then he can't campaign. You know all this, and so do the leftists who are cheering on this farce. To be clear, I am not calling you a leftist, I am simply saying you know all this. |
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Quoted: OK - this is the one where the falsification of business records must be in conjunction with another crime, yet no other crime was specified or charged. Correct? View Quote If I recall this is the law they changed specifically to go after him and make it a felony in conjuction with fraud, to make it a felony when it was previously a misdemeanor. It was called "the dead case" in the DAs office and had been on the burner since 2017 up until the day after trump announced he was running for 2024. |
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Quoted: If I recall this is the law they changed specifically to go after him and make it a felony in conjuction with fraud, to make it a felony when it was previously a misdemeanor. It was called "the dead case" in the DAs office and had been on the burner since 2017 up until the day after trump announced he was running for 2024. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: OK - this is the one where the falsification of business records must be in conjunction with another crime, yet no other crime was specified or charged. Correct? If I recall this is the law they changed specifically to go after him and make it a felony in conjuction with fraud, to make it a felony when it was previously a misdemeanor. It was called "the dead case" in the DAs office and had been on the burner since 2017 up until the day after trump announced he was running for 2024. |
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Naw this is the one the prosecutors office dubbed the "zombie case" they knew about since 2017, the hush money case
"But by March 2021, prosecutors had struggled to settle on a legal theory for charging Trump in the hush money matter. They were concerned that charging him with felonies for falsifying business records might not hold up in court, according to Pomerantz. So it went “back into the grave,” he wrote." Then came Bragg... "The falsification of business records is, by itself, a misdemeanor under New York law, but it's a felony when it's done with the “intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.” Bragg alleged that Trump "repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal criminal conduct that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election." "During the election, TRUMP and others employed a ‘catch and kill’ scheme to identify, purchase, and bury negative information about him and boost his electoral prospects," Bragg alleged. "TRUMP then went to great lengths to hide this conduct, causing dozens of false entries in business records to conceal criminal activity, including attempts to attempts to violate state and federal election laws." In 2019, federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York opted out of charging Trump related to the payments made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal. The Federal Election Commission also tossed its investigation into the matter in 2021. They claim he did so to conceal or aid his election, they changed it to fit what they needed. To defraud the people.... |
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...political persecution without precedent. The MSM and liberals should be proud.
Ruby Thewes might have something to say about this....something about "....this world won't stand long...." |
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Quoted: FIFY He isn't criminal until convicted But I see you have joined the court of public opinion created by the MSM View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Requiring a FIFY He isn't criminal until convicted But I see you have joined the court of public opinion created by the MSM Words mean things. He's a defendant in a criminal trial. That's what makes him a criminal defendant, as opposed to being a civil defendant in the cases where he got sued in civil court. I don't think the MSM made your trumpy bear a defendant in a criminal trial. I think that was the prosecutor who filed the charges and the judges or grand juries who bound the cases over for trial who did that. |
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Meh, it's an election year, the democrat-communists cannot run on their record, they have a wildly unpopular candidate, his running mate is an even more unpopular dumpster fire, and their only realistic hope is to hobble their opponent by any means necessary. Is anyone truly surprised by what's going on? This is who and what democrat-communists are. This is what they do. If they cannot beat their opponent, they will arrest him, subject him to show trials, and try to oust him from the election completely. Just like in other banana republics.
They must know the scale of the cheat required to install the potato in office for a second term is going to have to be so massive that it won't be possible to hide it. They would like to avoid that if possible. |
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Quoted: Meh, it's an election year, the democrat-communists cannot run on their record, they have a wildly unpopular candidate, his running mate is an even more unpopular dumpster fire, and their only realistic hope is to hobble their opponent by any means necessary. Is anyone truly surprised by what's going on? This is who and what democrat-communists are. This is what they do. If they cannot beat their opponent, they will arrest him, subject him to show trials, and try to oust him from the election completely. Just like in other banana republics. They must know the scale of the cheat required to install the potato in office for a second term is going to have to be so massive that it won't be possible to hide it. They would like to avoid that if possible. View Quote They're working on alternatives.
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Quoted: I recall the 80s and reading about corrupt governments that would jail opposition and thinking "I'm glad this is America where that can't happen." Well, now it is. These leftists are emboldened now. Can you imagine a judge talking that way to Clinton or some other leftist? View Quote The Communists think now is the time. |
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Capital Cities - Kangaroo Court (Official) |
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That is what lawyers are for. I listened to the true legitimate President Trump saying he can't even attend his son's graduation because of this bozo judge. I am sickened by all the left is doing.
So corrupt this kangaroo court is. It's obvious where the real election interference is coming from all along. Not the Russians but the democrats and their countless minions. May they all rot in hell. |
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Gee...Trump being required to be in court like any other person being tried in criminal court. Equal treatment under the law...
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Quoted: Gee...Trump being required to be in court like any other person being tried in criminal court. Equal treatment under the law... View Quote The kicker is the fast tracked trial with no delay. Every other major case takes years to make it through with constant delay. However, Trump campaigned as being the candidate that supports law and order. He now needs to follow through on the process as corrupted as it may be. He can use that aspect to his benefit though, if he would succinctly point out the specific details of the corruption. Trump is rarely succinct or specific but hopefully he figures out how to do that as every day he appears in court is a free press conference day for him as well. |
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Quoted: Our country is fucked.... We're full Banana Republic now. The scary thing is they're setting things up for a solution that is gonna be something/someone even worse (i.e. a Hitler, Putin, Xi) to come in and take over - cuz once a true democracy is lost, all that ensues is dictator...war lord, thug, etc. that comes in and kicks out the current regime. Annnnd, who's gonna save us? There was a time America was the Superman everyone looked up to, to come in and save them from the Booogey Dictator...but now that America's compromised, who's gonna save America? Makes me think of the 'Who's gonna watch the Watchmen' type thingy...Idk. View Quote What is disturbing is how many people, even a lot on this website, are cheering it on and excited about it. We are told Civil War would be horrible. It would be, but I have a feeling horrible is coming anyway. You really think these people cheering Trump being politically prosecuted wouldn't cheer just as loud if their neighbor got politically prosecuted a couple of years from now for voting wrong, or saying the wrong thing? If this isn't what the beginning of really bad looks like for a country, I don't know what it would look like. |
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Quoted: What is disturbing is how many people, even a lot on this website, are cheering it on and excited about it. We are told Civil War would be horrible. It would be, but I have a feeling horrible is coming anyway. You really think these people cheering Trump being politically prosecuted wouldn't cheer just as loud if their neighbor got politically prosecuted a couple of years from now for voting wrong, or saying the wrong thing? If this isn't what the beginning of really bad looks like for a country, I don't know what it would look like. View Quote It’s all so tiring. No one is going to civil war for Trump. Trump won’t even go to civil war for Trump. He’s a fucking blowhard. |
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Quoted: If I recall this is the law they changed specifically to go after him and make it a felony in conjuction with fraud, to make it a felony when it was previously a misdemeanor. It was called "the dead case" in the DAs office and had been on the burner since 2017 up until the day after trump announced he was running for 2024. View Quote This also seems to be an ex post facto application of the law. |
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Quoted: It's all so tiring. No one is going to civil war for Trump. Trump won't even go to civil war for Trump. He's a fucking blowhard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What is disturbing is how many people, even a lot on this website, are cheering it on and excited about it. We are told Civil War would be horrible. It would be, but I have a feeling horrible is coming anyway. You really think these people cheering Trump being politically prosecuted wouldn't cheer just as loud if their neighbor got politically prosecuted a couple of years from now for voting wrong, or saying the wrong thing? If this isn't what the beginning of really bad looks like for a country, I don't know what it would look like. It's all so tiring. No one is going to civil war for Trump. Trump won't even go to civil war for Trump. He's a fucking blowhard. He wasn't saying a civil war would break out over Trump. But at least you got to express your TDS by claiming that. He is simply pointing out that political persecution is how a civil war would start. You have the Feds declining to prosecute because there is no case so a corrupt state level DA created the case and it got assigned to a corrupt judge with an obvious conflict of interest. The conflict of interest is financial and political. Yet it is allowed. Who the case is against doesn't matter, if people who disagree with you politically can railroad a person even with obvious bias, smear them daily in the media, and there are no repercussions at all; then that is where a Constitutional Republic based on the rule of law starts to fail. Laws no longer matter, which we are seeing daily in Chicago, NY, the border, all the states that had illegal lockdowns, all the states that forced vaccinations, the states pushing "vaccine passports", sanctuary states, gun ban states ...etc. By now it should be very obvious that those actually calling the shots do not care about "we the people", the constitution, rights or anything. If you get in their way of the new progressive world order they are pushing for then they will sideline/eliminate you. The Judge's comments and the media coverage of them is how the left operates now. Trump said he would appear at court and the Judge acted like he said "I am not showing up ". Even though Trump said he would be there the Judge berated and threatened him for one reason, media headlines. Now the MSM and social media can run the headlines of "Trump could be arrested for missing court" making it sound like Trump is guilty and trying to skip out on his court case because he feels he is above the law. Social media is full of "no one is above the law" comments when it comes to Trump. They ignore all the Dems acting above the law but that is what the left does. The left, media, and globalist leaders are doing the same thing to Elon Musk since he won't play their game. They cut advertising, boycott, and daily there are headlines of "Twitter-X is failing", "Tesla is failing", "Elon could be arrested"....etc. |
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Quoted: It’s all so tiring. No one is going to civil war for Trump. Trump won’t even go to civil war for Trump. He’s a fucking blowhard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What is disturbing is how many people, even a lot on this website, are cheering it on and excited about it. We are told Civil War would be horrible. It would be, but I have a feeling horrible is coming anyway. You really think these people cheering Trump being politically prosecuted wouldn't cheer just as loud if their neighbor got politically prosecuted a couple of years from now for voting wrong, or saying the wrong thing? If this isn't what the beginning of really bad looks like for a country, I don't know what it would look like. It’s all so tiring. No one is going to civil war for Trump. Trump won’t even go to civil war for Trump. He’s a fucking blowhard. The mistake you are making is you believe this is about him. |
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Is this the case where the prosecution demanded a fast and speedy trial?
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Quoted: Maybe he can use that as his defense. He can full sovereign citizen in there. Stand up and chant and stuff. Lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: L O Fucking-L. A kangaroo court. Maybe he can use that as his defense. He can full sovereign citizen in there. Stand up and chant and stuff. Lol Essentially that is what Judge Merchan is doing. Locking the court down in secrecy, not allowing Trump to protest against injustice and refusing to acknowledge his own bias and partisanship. |
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Quoted: Maybe he can use that as his defense. He can full sovereign citizen in there. Stand up and chant and stuff. Lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: L O Fucking-L. A kangaroo court. Maybe he can use that as his defense. He can full sovereign citizen in there. Stand up and chant and stuff. Lol Essentially that is what Judge Merchan is doing. Locking the court down in secrecy, not allowing Trump to protest against injustice and refusing to acknowledge his own bias and partisanship. |
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Quoted: The kicker is the fast tracked trial with no delay. Every other major case takes years to make it through with constant delay. However, Trump campaigned as being the candidate that supports law and order. He now needs to follow through on the process as corrupted as it may be. He can use that aspect to his benefit though, if he would succinctly point out the specific details of the corruption. Trump is rarely succinct or specific but hopefully he figures out how to do that as every day he appears in court is a free press conference day for him as well. View Quote Gag order |
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Quoted: The kicker is the fast tracked trial with no delay. Every other major case takes years to make it through with constant delay. However, Trump campaigned as being the candidate that supports law and order. He now needs to follow through on the process as corrupted as it may be. He can use that aspect to his benefit though, if he would succinctly point out the specific details of the corruption. Trump is rarely succinct or specific but hopefully he figures out how to do that as every day he appears in court is a free press conference day for him as well. View Quote Gag order |
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Quoted: Keep him in court. The quieter he is, the better he will do. View Quote Exactly. There are no mainstream voters in the country whose optimism has changed one bit since the last election, with the exception of minorities. All they are doing at this point is making the case to minorities that Trump is feeling their pain and can identify with them. Let the butthurt flow, young Padawans…. |
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Quoted: He wasn't saying a civil war would break out over Trump. But at least you got to express your TDS by claiming that. He is simply pointing out that political persecution is how a civil war would start. You have the Feds declining to prosecute because there is no case so a corrupt state level DA created the case and it got assigned to a corrupt judge with an obvious conflict of interest. The conflict of interest is financial and political. Yet it is allowed. Who the case is against doesn't matter, if people who disagree with you politically can railroad a person even with obvious bias, smear them daily in the media, and there are no repercussions at all; then that is where a Constitutional Republic based on the rule of law starts to fail. Laws no longer matter, which we are seeing daily in Chicago, NY, the border, all the states that had illegal lockdowns, all the states that forced vaccinations, the states pushing "vaccine passports", sanctuary states, gun ban states ...etc. By now it should be very obvious that those actually calling the shots do not care about "we the people", the constitution, rights or anything. If you get in their way of the new progressive world order they are pushing for then they will sideline/eliminate you. The Judge's comments and the media coverage of them is how the left operates now. Trump said he would appear at court and the Judge acted like he said "I am not showing up ". Even though Trump said he would be there the Judge berated and threatened him for one reason, media headlines. Now the MSM and social media can run the headlines of "Trump could be arrested for missing court" making it sound like Trump is guilty and trying to skip out on his court case because he feels he is above the law. Social media is full of "no one is above the law" comments when it comes to Trump. They ignore all the Dems acting above the law but that is what the left does. The left, media, and globalist leaders are doing the same thing to Elon Musk since he won't play their game. They cut advertising, boycott, and daily there are headlines of "Twitter-X is failing", "Tesla is failing", "Elon could be arrested"....etc. View Quote Just another day in America brah. Whatcha gonna do? Ya know? |
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