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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:34:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rocky41]
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He needs to seek a diplomatic solution and give up some land area. Not our war, after the thing is over he can join NATO. It is a money pit, how much do we spend, 50 billion. 100 billion, 500 billion, how much is enough, dam thing could go on for 10 more years.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:39:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Large swaths here get a lot of satisfaction in bad news happening to Ukraine/Ukrainians just because of their hate for Zelenskyy. I think his age had a huge factor in "now is the time to step it up". He has his goals (not Russia's goals) and at 70+, he can't keep playing the long game. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: But that's patently untrue. Originally Posted By colklink: IMO, longterm, had Putin continued that course, eventually Russia probably could have peeled western Europe away from the US. Eastern Europe isn't as dumb. But Putin couldn't stay the course for whatever reason. But the comment of people wanting Ukrainians do die just because they are Ukrainians is still untrue. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:41:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: You get used to it after a while. Being against military aid for Ukraine is one thing. That was pure Putin fan fiction. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:24:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pdm: Americans consider themselves the good guys on a global scale. Our national psyche is still based on a WW2 model of good/bad, fight for freedom, fight against unjust oppression, etc…the issue is that #1 very little of this is true any more and #2 this willingness to do "what is right no matter the cost" is manipulated and used for personal gain and profit by both politicians, on many levels, and industry. As for Zelensky I see him as a figurehead of a very corrupt nation in very corrupt and brutal region of the world that's embroiled in conflict for profit. It also needs to be said that Zelensky played along with the US's plan to bait Putin into conflict. Putin also gets credit as a bad guy for taking the bait…in other words we, the US, anticipated fairly accurately how Putin would react to not only to our machinations in Ukraine but we also knew that Putin had designs as well, so the stars were in alignment to keep our defense industry afloat. So to your question as to what would it take to end this….it's not a simple answer as there are variables and Putin also gets a vote. That being said Zelensky needs to lay out the strategic vision of what "peace" looks like and what he needs to get there. Part of that will be negations with Russia which he seems unwilling to do. Is that being driven by national interests or his masters in DC? Will Russia ever accept Ukraine in the NATO sphere of influence and in all honesty should they? We, NATO and the US, have repeatedly lied to Russia and encroached closer and closer to their homeland….remember when the wall came down and we told them not one inch closer? We lied. So anyways this conflict is dynamic, rapidly changing. Operational end states will change on an almost daily basis but that's not the gist. The gist is profit and lots of people are making very serious money and lots of US politicians are staying in office because their constituents need the jobs. So for the time being this slog is very, very profitable for a lot of actors, both there and here, and trying determine what "victory" looks like has to be looked at through that lens. This is simply a business model under the guise of"fighting for freedom". 
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Posted: 4/17/2024 10:26:17 AM EDT
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The US doesn’t spend money on wars to win. So I am not even sure what he is talking about.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:10:40 PM EDT
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That whiny little dancer boy who can't find a suit needs to shut his mouth and move on to another gig.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:33:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: I don't care if we support them for 20 more years. Killing Russians should be a priority for anyone who cares about civility and respecting borders. My God rain down Hellfire on V. Putin's bedroom at 3:00 a.m. Are we supporting Ukraine, or could it be the 96 pharmaceutical corporations that “just so happen” to be present in the relatively very small country? |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:36:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rocky41: He needs to seek a diplomatic solution and give up some land area. Not our war, after the thing is over he can join NATO. It is a money pit, how much do we spend, 50 billion. 100 billion, 500 billion, how much is enough, dam thing could go on for 10 more years. What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:39:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:55:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: But that's patently untrue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By STRIKE504: Are we responsible for stopping all the other genocides currently on going? Are you emotionally hysterical about the genocide in Burma, China, Ethiopia, South Sudan, and Syria as well? Biggest problem is many in this thread actively support Russia killing Ukrainians because they are Ukrainian. But that's patently untrue. Emotional arguments are emotional. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:00:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Natty_Bumppo: had we never started fucking around 10 years ago, this whole thing probably wouldn't have happened Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Natty_Bumppo: Originally Posted By Explorer225: Had we never intervened this nonsense would have already been over. had we never started fucking around 10 years ago, this whole thing probably wouldn't have happened Both of you are correct. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:02:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Rocky41: He needs to seek a diplomatic solution and give up some land area. Not our war, after the thing is over he can join NATO. It is a money pit, how much do we spend, 50 billion. 100 billion, 500 billion, how much is enough, dam thing could go on for 10 more years. What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? This. The people who have lived it, said from day 1 that Ukraine was on borrowed time...that the clock was ticking and all Russia had to do was run out the clock. The west will shift its ADHD focus, run out of money, run out of gear, and Ukraine will be set up for a grand fall... Now...they are about to fall. Not a shock to anyone with a history book. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? From Russia's point of view or the US? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:08:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARowner: How many years do they want us to support them? 5 more? 15? Forever...until their elite and our elite get tired of the free money making them all billionaires... |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:16:09 PM EDT
[#15]
Sounds like a you problem….. Enjoy changing the signage back to Kiev…..
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:20:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:25:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Some of us are under 40 and have a lot of life left to live. We dont want this shit anymore. No more US tax dollars. No more aid. Same goes for Israel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By ARowner: How many years do they want us to support them? 5 more? 15? I don't care if we support them for 20 more years. Killing Russians should be a priority for anyone who cares about civility and respecting borders. My God rain down Hellfire on V. Putin's bedroom at 3:00 a.m. Some of us are under 40 and have a lot of life left to live. We dont want this shit anymore. No more US tax dollars. No more aid. Same goes for Israel. Yup. This whole thing is just fossilized politicians wanting more kickbacks, and their nearly equally fossilized voters selfishly wasting the resources of the people actually paying for it so they can massage their Cold War boner that the propaganda got rigid again. For the most part nobody under the age of 40 gives a damn about the former Soviet Union fighting the former Soviet Union. They already ruined so much of this country’s future with their deranged COVID hysteria because they’ll eagerly sacrifice the younger generations’ prosperity just to remain existing for a moment longer. Now they’re eager to throw us off into a nightmarish WWI-meets-Terminator meat grinder none of them had to endure so they can have Rambo-gasms of killing them damn Rooskies in their final years. It’s sick how we’re ruled by the senile. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:26:35 PM EDT
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Europe's problem is Europe's problem. Let them work it out.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:27:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: They have the ability to win, incorrect. Russia claims all of Ukraine. They've lost dang near half a million men in 2 years of the 2 day war, I mean not a war. Just don't call it a war because they will throw you in prison over that. Agreed. I'm under 40 also. I have a lot of life left to live. Send the aid  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By cancard: News Flash: He’s not going to win regardless. They have the ability to win, incorrect. Russia claims all of Ukraine. They've lost dang near half a million men in 2 years of the 2 day war, I mean not a war. Just don't call it a war because they will throw you in prison over that. Originally Posted By Haub: This. ^^ Agreed. Originally Posted By HecklerKac: Some of us are under 40 and have a lot of life left to live. We dont want this shit anymore. No more US tax dollars. No more aid. Same goes for Israel. I'm under 40 also. I have a lot of life left to live. Send the aid Send yourself. Why aren’t you doing your part? Just getting paid by the taxpayer, while also wanting to send more of the taxpayer money over to foreigners. You could either try contributing to this country, or at least go contribute to your favorite country and serve Comrade Z. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:34:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VeryAverage: Yup. This whole thing is just fossilized politicians wanting more kickbacks, and their nearly equally fossilized voters selfishly wasting the resources of the people actually paying for it so they can massage their Cold War boner that the propaganda got rigid again. For the most part nobody under the age of 40 gives a damn about the former Soviet Union fighting the former Soviet Union. They already ruined so much of this country’s future with their deranged COVID hysteria because they’ll eagerly sacrifice the younger generations’ prosperity just to remain existing for a moment longer. Now they’re eager to throw us off into a nightmarish WWI-meets-Terminator meat grinder none of them had to endure so they can have Rambo-gasms of killing them damn Rooskies in their final years. It’s sick how we’re ruled by the senile. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VeryAverage: Originally Posted By HecklerKac: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By ARowner: How many years do they want us to support them? 5 more? 15? I don't care if we support them for 20 more years. Killing Russians should be a priority for anyone who cares about civility and respecting borders. My God rain down Hellfire on V. Putin's bedroom at 3:00 a.m. Some of us are under 40 and have a lot of life left to live. We dont want this shit anymore. No more US tax dollars. No more aid. Same goes for Israel. Yup. This whole thing is just fossilized politicians wanting more kickbacks, and their nearly equally fossilized voters selfishly wasting the resources of the people actually paying for it so they can massage their Cold War boner that the propaganda got rigid again. For the most part nobody under the age of 40 gives a damn about the former Soviet Union fighting the former Soviet Union. They already ruined so much of this country’s future with their deranged COVID hysteria because they’ll eagerly sacrifice the younger generations’ prosperity just to remain existing for a moment longer. Now they’re eager to throw us off into a nightmarish WWI-meets-Terminator meat grinder none of them had to endure so they can have Rambo-gasms of killing them damn Rooskies in their final years. It’s sick how we’re ruled by the senile. Hear Hear!!! |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:41:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joe731: Yes, that was the plan Always was meme goes here |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:41:42 PM EDT
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They never had a chance to begin with.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:43:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Both of you are correct. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Originally Posted By Natty_Bumppo: Originally Posted By Explorer225: Had we never intervened this nonsense would have already been over. had we never started fucking around 10 years ago, this whole thing probably wouldn't have happened Both of you are correct.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:54:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: They never had a chance to begin with. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:59:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Neither did the Taliban. Biden partnered with them too. So weird. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 2:18:42 PM EDT
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Only a matter of time. They were never going to win. I wonder if Biden will still offer him that ride out?
The Odessa AssBandit couldn’t blast his way through enough Russians on his own. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 2:52:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Rocky41: He needs to seek a diplomatic solution and give up some land area. Not our war, after the thing is over he can join NATO. It is a money pit, how much do we spend, 50 billion. 100 billion, 500 billion, how much is enough, dam thing could go on for 10 more years. What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? It's quite simple. Ukraine can sue for peace and maybe get a temporary reprieve, or Ukraine can continue throwing bodies and equipment at the sunk cost. I suppose Ukraine could escalate to more attacks inside Russia, and see how that works out for them. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 3:05:59 PM EDT
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When this is finally over, will we ever see a dime of the literally countless millions, if not billions, we have given them?
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Posted: 4/17/2024 3:09:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Yea, and Russia would be well into its genocide plans. At least Arfcom is open about its support for that now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By Explorer225: Had we never intervened this nonsense would have already been over. So what..UKR was known for mobsters, every crypto scam invented and lots of CP servers.. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 3:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Butternut: When this is finally over, will we ever see a dime of the literally countless millions, if not billions, we have given them? I don't know if we will ever get any of it back. Usually that doesnt happen when old people wire money to ukraine. But we could probably see some of it again by looking at zelensky's mansions on google street view lol |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 3:35:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VeryAverage: Yup. This whole thing is just fossilized politicians wanting more kickbacks, and their nearly equally fossilized voters selfishly wasting the resources of the people actually paying for it so they can massage their Cold War boner that the propaganda got rigid again. For the most part nobody under the age of 40 gives a damn about the former Soviet Union fighting the former Soviet Union. They already ruined so much of this country’s future with their deranged COVID hysteria because they’ll eagerly sacrifice the younger generations’ prosperity just to remain existing for a moment longer. Now they’re eager to throw us off into a nightmarish WWI-meets-Terminator meat grinder none of them had to endure so they can have Rambo-gasms of killing them damn Rooskies in their final years. It’s sick how we’re ruled by the senile. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VeryAverage: Originally Posted By HecklerKac: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By ARowner: How many years do they want us to support them? 5 more? 15? I don't care if we support them for 20 more years. Killing Russians should be a priority for anyone who cares about civility and respecting borders. My God rain down Hellfire on V. Putin's bedroom at 3:00 a.m. Some of us are under 40 and have a lot of life left to live. We dont want this shit anymore. No more US tax dollars. No more aid. Same goes for Israel. Yup. This whole thing is just fossilized politicians wanting more kickbacks, and their nearly equally fossilized voters selfishly wasting the resources of the people actually paying for it so they can massage their Cold War boner that the propaganda got rigid again. For the most part nobody under the age of 40 gives a damn about the former Soviet Union fighting the former Soviet Union. They already ruined so much of this country’s future with their deranged COVID hysteria because they’ll eagerly sacrifice the younger generations’ prosperity just to remain existing for a moment longer. Now they’re eager to throw us off into a nightmarish WWI-meets-Terminator meat grinder none of them had to endure so they can have Rambo-gasms of killing them damn Rooskies in their final years. It’s sick how we’re ruled by the senile.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 6:07:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: But that's patently untrue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By STRIKE504: Are we responsible for stopping all the other genocides currently on going? Are you emotionally hysterical about the genocide in Burma, China, Ethiopia, South Sudan, and Syria as well? Biggest problem is many in this thread actively support Russia killing Ukrainians because they are Ukrainian. But that's patently untrue. That statement could be freudrian projection. The pro ukraine posters are always saying odd stuff like "Stacking dead russians is the best thing my taxes have been spent on" (actual quote from page 1 of the mike johnson thread) |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:42:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? Well when he runs out of soldiers willing to die for a lost cause for one. That's when he leaves the country with his cash to go live in Switzerland and the Ukrainians that are left are forced to deal with the aftermath of surrender. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:52:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olyman: That whiny little dancer boy who can't find a suit needs to shut his mouth and move on to another gig. I mean if you’re gonna beg congress for money you can at least not show up in your gym clothes. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:56:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Rocky41: He needs to seek a diplomatic solution and give up some land area. Not our war, after the thing is over he can join NATO. It is a money pit, how much do we spend, 50 billion. 100 billion, 500 billion, how much is enough, dam thing could go on for 10 more years. What diplomatic solution? Why would Russia negotiate or accept a partial victory when they have a clear path to complete victory through military means? I've asked this many times without a good answer, and the answer gets even farther out of reach over time: how can Putin be induced to negotiate anything other than a Ukrainian surrender? Even if there were an answer to that question, here's another one that's hard to answer: what could possibly guarantee security for a rump Ukraine in the future? The simple answer is NATO membership for rump Ukraine, but how could you get Putin to accept that? There is ZERO basis for a diplomatic solution at this point in time. Everybody knows that it only means a total Ukrainian surrender. So let's ask the question the other way: how could you induce Zelensky to surrender? There’s no Ukrainian path the victory either. So how many more billions do we waste? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:59:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: STRIKE504]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VeryAverage: Send yourself. Why aren’t you doing your part? Just getting paid by the taxpayer, while also wanting to send more of the taxpayer money over to foreigners. You could either try contributing to this country, or at least go contribute to your favorite country and serve Comrade Z. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VeryAverage: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By cancard: News Flash: He’s not going to win regardless. They have the ability to win, incorrect. Russia claims all of Ukraine. They've lost dang near half a million men in 2 years of the 2 day war, I mean not a war. Just don't call it a war because they will throw you in prison over that. Originally Posted By Haub: This. ^^ Agreed. Originally Posted By HecklerKac: Some of us are under 40 and have a lot of life left to live. We dont want this shit anymore. No more US tax dollars. No more aid. Same goes for Israel. I'm under 40 also. I have a lot of life left to live. Send the aid Send yourself. Why aren’t you doing your part? Just getting paid by the taxpayer, while also wanting to send more of the taxpayer money over to foreigners. You could either try contributing to this country, or at least go contribute to your favorite country and serve Comrade Z. BuT hAz U bEn 2 TeH bOrDeR??? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:20:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STRIKE504: BuT hAz U bEn 2 TeH bOrDeR??? Pop Quiz hot shot. Which one has the greater impact on your life? The border? Or the Donbass? But But But WAT BOUT UKWAINE!!!! The DOOONBASSSSS!!! CRY-ME-AH fucking river... |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:22:52 PM EDT
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Schumer has already called the Zman. “Your check is in the mail next week bro”
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:26:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BroomSlayer: Pop Quiz hot shot. Which one has the greater impact on your life? The border? Or the Donbass? But But But WAT BOUT UKWAINE!!!! The DOOONBASSSSS!!! CRY-ME-AH fucking river... Friendly fire. 
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:26:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Haub: This. ^^ Can we do the same to the organizations who use their influence to invade across our borders? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:28:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BroomSlayer: Pop Quiz hot shot. Which one has the greater impact on your life? The border? Or the Donbass? But But But WAT BOUT UKWAINE!!!! The DOOONBASSSSS!!! CRY-ME-AH fucking river... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BroomSlayer: Originally Posted By STRIKE504: BuT hAz U bEn 2 TeH bOrDeR??? Pop Quiz hot shot. Which one has the greater impact on your life? The border? Or the Donbass? But But But WAT BOUT UKWAINE!!!! The DOOONBASSSSS!!! CRY-ME-AH fucking river... Recalibrate your sarcasm meter my guy and maybe switch to decaf. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:29:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: Friendly fire. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: Originally Posted By BroomSlayer: Pop Quiz hot shot. Which one has the greater impact on your life? The border? Or the Donbass? But But But WAT BOUT UKWAINE!!!! The DOOONBASSSSS!!! CRY-ME-AH fucking river... Friendly fire. That shits pretty funny though 😂 |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:30:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:36:25 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JaredGrey: I fail to see why that is something I should care about. Say it again. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:37:48 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STRIKE504: Recalibrate your sarcasm meter my guy and maybe switch to decaf. Lol, my bad haha. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:40:25 PM EDT
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one thing the last two years or so have confirmed for me is that I am surrounded by soft headed, easily swayed 'men' who make emotional decisions.
ironically, these men post memes about weak men creating hard times. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:57:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Explorer225: Had we never intervened this nonsense would have already been over. If fighting age makes will not sign up to fight for their own country, why are we supporting them? Just common sense. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:38:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fulminate: one thing the last two years or so have confirmed for me is that I am surrounded by soft headed, easily swayed 'men' who make emotional decisions. ironically, these men post memes about weak men creating hard times. 
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Posted: 4/18/2024 11:02:43 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joe731: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59227/1698855911241993-3191126.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joe731: Originally Posted By fulminate: one thing the last two years or so have confirmed for me is that I am surrounded by soft headed, easily swayed 'men' who make emotional decisions. ironically, these men post memes about weak men creating hard times. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59227/1698855911241993-3191126.png Attack on the nuclear family. Then those narratives. Some bear no fault. Ever. Others bear fault. Always. No matter what. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:20:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: But the comment of people wanting Ukrainians do die just because they are Ukrainians is still untrue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: But the comment of people wanting Ukrainians do die just because they are Ukrainians is still untrue. People on this site? Absolutely. Someone was stating they wanted the holdomor back. In general? There are numerous statements from Russian officials who say that (and others) Originally Posted By OscarD: I mean if you’re gonna beg congress for money you can at least not show up in your gym clothes.  Attached File Attached FileSomeone else wore a military green uniform to the White House. 
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