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Originally Posted By jm0502: Meanwhile this guy gets beat to shit by the fbi and a grand rapids police officer and doesn't get shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASSOxNc6mxQ View Quote I remember this. Feds in plain clothes smash an innocent man to pieces. Nothing happens. We need an enema, badly. |
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Originally Posted By Hostile1: I remember this. Feds in plain clothes smash an innocent man to pieces. Nothing happens. We need an enema, badly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hostile1: Originally Posted By jm0502: Meanwhile this guy gets beat to shit by the fbi and a grand rapids police officer and doesn't get shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASSOxNc6mxQ I remember this. Feds in plain clothes smash an innocent man to pieces. Nothing happens. We need an enema, badly. They stopped him because they thought he was the suspect. Asked for ID and he fought back. |
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He who covers his sins will not prosper,
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Originally Posted By UV18: They stopped him because they thought he was the suspect. Asked for ID and he fought back. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By Hostile1: Originally Posted By jm0502: Meanwhile this guy gets beat to shit by the fbi and a grand rapids police officer and doesn't get shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASSOxNc6mxQ I remember this. Feds in plain clothes smash an innocent man to pieces. Nothing happens. We need an enema, badly. They stopped him because they thought he was the suspect. Asked for ID and he fought back. A non-LEO would not necessarily know how far they would go so he should have known better than to resist! |
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"If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, give it Narcan." ~ AverageJoe365
“Imagine if the Great Depression and Mad Max had a baby.” ~ KingRat |
Originally Posted By R2point0: Gallstones? From getting beaten up? View Quote Yeah that a love of meat pies sausages and fatty cuts of meat butter, ghee and lard cream hard cheeses cakes and biscuits food containing coconut or palm oil that an a dislike of fresh fruit and vegetables (at least 5 portions a day) and whole grains while avoiding severe beatings... |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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What’s the difference between pancakes and a Mini-14? Pancakes hit the spot.-dvanblaricom
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I’d take a good whoop’n for a 1/4 of that
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Snap, bang or fizz I like all 3
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Originally Posted By Aimless: Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE. The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous View Quote The punishment SHOULD be such that it stops people from doing the unwanted behavior. Evidently, instead of being too big, the verdicts aren't big enough yet. |
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But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true |
Originally Posted By David0858: The punishment SHOULD be such that it stops people from doing the unwanted behavior. Evidently, instead of being too big, the verdicts aren't big enough yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By David0858: Originally Posted By Aimless: Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE. The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous The punishment SHOULD be such that it stops people from doing the unwanted behavior. Evidently, instead of being too big, the verdicts aren't big enough yet. The problem is the layers of insulation between the actors and their consequences. When taxpayers pick up the tab there's little incentive to do better. Frankly, criminal charges should be more frequent because "unreasonable force" is also "assault". But instead we have a situation where cops here even argue that settlements aren't taxpayer money because insurance will cover it. |
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: The problem is the layers of insulation between the actors and their consequences. When taxpayers pick up the tab there's little incentive to do better. Frankly, criminal charges should be more frequent because "unreasonable force" is also "assault". But instead we have a situation where cops here even argue that settlements aren't taxpayer money because insurance will cover it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By David0858: Originally Posted By Aimless: Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE. The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous The punishment SHOULD be such that it stops people from doing the unwanted behavior. Evidently, instead of being too big, the verdicts aren't big enough yet. The problem is the layers of insulation between the actors and their consequences. When taxpayers pick up the tab there's little incentive to do better. Frankly, criminal charges should be more frequent because "unreasonable force" is also "assault". But instead we have a situation where cops here even argue that settlements aren't taxpayer money because insurance will cover it. That just means the judgements aren't big enough yet. Once the judgements are big enough to bankrupt or seriously impact the operations of the governmental entities the behavior WILL change. |
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But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true |
Originally Posted By David0858: That just means the judgements aren't big enough yet. Once the judgements are big enough to bankrupt or seriously impact the operations of the governmental entities the behavior WILL change. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By David0858: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By David0858: Originally Posted By Aimless: Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE. The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous The punishment SHOULD be such that it stops people from doing the unwanted behavior. Evidently, instead of being too big, the verdicts aren't big enough yet. The problem is the layers of insulation between the actors and their consequences. When taxpayers pick up the tab there's little incentive to do better. Frankly, criminal charges should be more frequent because "unreasonable force" is also "assault". But instead we have a situation where cops here even argue that settlements aren't taxpayer money because insurance will cover it. That just means the judgements aren't big enough yet. Once the judgements are big enough to bankrupt or seriously impact the operations of the governmental entities the behavior WILL change. The same folks will just go on to another city and continue the cycle. The fix is to eliminate the insulation. |
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Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR: When we did train up for 2012 DNC we were told not to do it by the feds. In 2015 the agency wrote policy about not doing it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR: Originally Posted By UV18: We have never trained using it outside an arrest for a very small group. None of the fed training I have done has ever included it. When we did train up for 2012 DNC we were told not to do it by the feds. In 2015 the agency wrote policy about not doing it Kettling of a small group isn’t really kettling… Have done it- problems started when the sidewalks and buildings were used as part of the kettle structure, and people tried to claim that they were (legally) on the sidewalk to begin with, therefore they were actually following law/orders, etc etc. (been a while so my memory might not be 100% correct.) Hard to prove or disprove stuff in protest/riot situations sometimes, and even with video, piecing it all together takes time, people, and money. When they really just want everyone to just go away, so no follow up happens, so the cases get dismissed, then 2 years later you pay someone money in a lawsuit, because that is cheaper than paying to do the required follow up to prosecute the cases (also helps if the DA is actually on board). Riot control isn’t easy work, but it is harder when there is no backing for enforcing the laws, and no follow up to make sure good cases move forward. |
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a loaded gun won’t set you free, so they say…
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Originally Posted By UV18: They stopped him because they thought he was the suspect. Asked for ID and he fought back. View Quote He looked nothing like the suspect. Their word against his, and ill take his word for it since they made people delete video. @1:45 Dash cam video of James King arrest |
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"Whoever came up with that video needs Jesus?and some stitches for that blown-out rectum. Ick. "
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