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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat: You know just like you can create new laws, you can get rid of old ones. View Quote If this was really about bump stocks or infidelity, the anti-Trump sentiment would have died down after the IA caucus when it was clear Trump would be the candidate. No, this is about something else |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: DeSantis is doing an absolutely fantastic job in Florida and I'm really glad he dropped out. The federal government cannot be reformed from within. The best thing to do now is to create robust state rights, differences between the states, and reassert state control on many aspects. As I've mentioned before, he will do much more for conservatives/right libertarians as Governor than he could possibly achieve as President. He is the right man, in the right place, at the right time. The absolutely massive amount of reform the Federal government needs can only come from state pressure. Furthermore, to make people's lives better the states can have a more immediate and effective influence. Decentralize now, stop making the Presidency a winner take all contest to force will on others, return to Jeffersonian, let the shitlib centralized experiment fail. View Quote Good point... he appears to be a great governor. He lacked the "fuck you" money to not have to play ball for the federal stage. |
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Gator's ******* better be using jimmies!
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
You mean the nominee that quit in January? Not that I was going to vote for desantis but its hard to vote for someone when he quits before the majority of the country can vote for him. Sounds like your ire is directed at the wrong people. View Quote |
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The pure amount of salt in thus thread rivals the oceans surrounding the great schlong state
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Originally Posted By Gator: Good point... he appears to be a great governor. He lacked the "fuck you" money to not have to play ball for the federal stage. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gator: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: DeSantis is doing an absolutely fantastic job in Florida and I'm really glad he dropped out. The federal government cannot be reformed from within. The best thing to do now is to create robust state rights, differences between the states, and reassert state control on many aspects. As I've mentioned before, he will do much more for conservatives/right libertarians as Governor than he could possibly achieve as President. He is the right man, in the right place, at the right time. The absolutely massive amount of reform the Federal government needs can only come from state pressure. Furthermore, to make people's lives better the states can have a more immediate and effective influence. Decentralize now, stop making the Presidency a winner take all contest to force will on others, return to Jeffersonian, let the shitlib centralized experiment fail. Good point... he appears to be a great governor. He lacked the "fuck you" money to not have to play ball for the federal stage. No, he made the mistake Trump made. He listened to the wrong people, lacked the experience to navigate the corrupt federal structure, and was given poor advice. If it is impossible for a newcomer to navigate the federal structure, that tells you how corrupt that structure is. There is no federal candidate for President that is coming to save us. Period. We will win through the states. And before we win there we need to win in the counties. (Or if you're weird and live in Louisiana, Parishes) |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
I don't really think there's much reason in ragging on Trump at this point, especially if you're someone that supports RDS. I would have preferred him as well and fully expect Trump to crumble under pressure if elected the same way he did in 2020, but it's better at this point to focus on the groundwork for 2028.
RDS is pretty far and away the preferred 2nd choice for Trump supporters, whatever happens this fall it'll work out better in the long run to focus on building and capitalizing on that instead of picking scabs. |
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history only tastes bitter to those who expected it to be sugar coated.
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Arfcom GD in Dec 2023 - “DeSantis is an establishment plant!” I’ll never forgive the Trump cultists for their lies. This guy easily could’ve been our president in a few months if the GOP voter base wasn’t full of brain dead idiots who think with their feelings. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: No, he made the mistake Trump made. He listened to the wrong people, lacked the experience to navigate the corrupt federal structure, and was given poor advice. If it is impossible for a newcomer to navigate the federal structure, that tells you how corrupt that structure is. There is no federal candidate for President that is coming to save us. Period. We will win through the states. And before we win there we need to win in the counties. (Or if you're weird and live in Louisiana, Parishes) View Quote Very true. Trump was piled on from his own "party", they do not like outsiders and wanted to show him who runs the show. I have no issue voting for DeSantis or Trump but the same worthless people in the house and senate are the votes needed to pass legislation. The same people can't pick a speaker by party vote or stop spending on crap outside the USA, and borrowing or printing money to do it. |
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In a lot of ways, Im glad he dropped out, cause he's a much better governor when he's focusing on Florida and not on his Presidential campaign.
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Arfcom GD in Dec 2023 - “DeSantis is an establishment plant!” I’ll never forgive the Trump cultists for their lies. This guy easily could’ve been our president in a few months if the GOP voter base wasn’t full of brain dead idiots who think with their feelings. View Quote All of this. We have now passed on two solid conservatives who push back on liberalism and gets things done because of emotive retards. |
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Originally Posted By Subpar: In what way does the success of a conservative governor in a conservative state with a conservative supermajority translate into success at the national level? Had Ronald not quit before the Florida primary he would have gotten stomped by Trump. In his own state. That sounds like someone who can win nationally? Ronald needs to take the next 3 years to work out and lose his child-bearing hips, get his femurs lengthened so he’s not a lift boot wearing manlet and develop a personality that is more appealling than that of a dead moth. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/2A3520BA-7DF1-4D13-92F1-8D789CE802C1-3017446.gif View Quote Trump had 2 years with both chambers of Congress also, and look at all he did! Oh, oops. To some of us, taking a chance on a man with a record of success and accomplishment at the state level made way more sense than trying again with a man who already demonstrated an inability to effectively govern at the national level. |
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Never before has so much been owed by so many to so few.
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Originally Posted By Subpar:
In what way does the success of a conservative governor in a conservative state with a conservative supermajority translate into success at the national level? Had Ronald not quit before the Florida primary he would have gotten stomped by Trump. In his own state. That sounds like someone who can win nationally? Ronald needs to take the next 3 years to work out and lose his child-bearing hips, get his femurs lengthened so he’s not a lift boot wearing manlet and develop a personality that is more appealling than that of a dead moth. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/2A3520BA-7DF1-4D13-92F1-8D789CE802C1-3017446.gif View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Blackbeard28: LOL. You live in California. Your Governor is a scumbag pos. Your state is chock full of illegals and bullshit laws. Enjoy your communism. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Blackbeard28: Originally Posted By ApacheScout: You mean the nominee that quit in January? Not that I was going to vote for desantis but its hard to vote for someone when he quits before the majority of the country can vote for him. Sounds like your ire is directed at the wrong people. LOL. You live in California. Your Governor is a scumbag pos. Your state is chock full of illegals and bullshit laws. Enjoy your communism. What does that have to do with what I wrote? Are you just lashing out because someone said truthful things about your idol? |
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Originally Posted By Subpar: In what way does the success of a conservative governor in a conservative state with a conservative supermajority translate into success at the national level? Had Ronald not quit before the Florida primary he would have gotten stomped by Trump. In his own state. That sounds like someone who can win nationally? Ronald needs to take the next 3 years to work out and lose his child-bearing hips, get his femurs lengthened so he’s not a lift boot wearing manlet and develop a personality that is more appealling than that of a dead moth. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/2A3520BA-7DF1-4D13-92F1-8D789CE802C1-3017446.gif View Quote Florida republican legislature does not equal Conservative. |
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Originally Posted By MK3110: Florida republican legislature does not equal Conservative. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Blackbeard28: LMAO. You think the Florida republican supermajority is conservative. That's cute. Fair point. “Republican” would be the better description. If Ronald was elected POTUS would the national legislative branch be equal to or more conservative than in Florida? If less conservative, why do you think he would have greater success than Trump or anyone else? Would the left/media not vehemently oppose him and refrain from trying to destroy him because he’s a principled conservative? They convinced a ton of Americans that if you say the word “gay” in Florida Ronald will send you straight to jail. He wasn’t even a candidate then. Eta: you guys know Ronald was going to pivot hard as fuck to the middle if he miraculously made it to the general? GWB 2.0. |
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Originally Posted By Subpar: Fair point. “Republican” would be the better description. If Ronald was elected POTUS would the national legislative branch be equal to or more conservative than in Florida? If less conservative, why do you think he would have greater success than Trump or anyone else? Would the left/media not vehemently oppose him and refrain from trying to destroy him because he’s a principled conservative? They convinced a ton of Americans that if you say the word “gay” in Florida Ronald will send you straight to jail. He wasn’t even a candidate then. Eta: you guys know Ronald was going to pivot hard as fuck to the middle if he miraculously made it to the general? GWB 2.0. View Quote He has a resume of success at the state level in almost every area that conservatives purport to care about. Given the alternative options, that at least deserves heavy consideration. If he failed at the national level, then he failed. But giving him a shot made way more sense than re-nominating the dude who we know isn't up to the task. |
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Never before has so much been owed by so many to so few.
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Originally Posted By Subpar: Fair point. “Republican” would be the better description. If Ronald was elected POTUS would the national legislative branch be equal to or more conservative than in Florida? If less conservative, why do you think he would have greater success than Trump or anyone else? Would the left/media not vehemently oppose him and refrain from trying to destroy him because he’s a principled conservative? They convinced a ton of Americans that if you say the word “gay” in Florida Ronald will send you straight to jail. He wasn’t even a candidate then. Eta: you guys know Ronald was going to pivot hard as fuck to the middle if he miraculously made it to the general? GWB 2.0. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Subpar: Originally Posted By MK3110: Florida republican legislature does not equal Conservative. Originally Posted By Blackbeard28: LMAO. You think the Florida republican supermajority is conservative. That's cute. Fair point. “Republican” would be the better description. If Ronald was elected POTUS would the national legislative branch be equal to or more conservative than in Florida? If less conservative, why do you think he would have greater success than Trump or anyone else? Would the left/media not vehemently oppose him and refrain from trying to destroy him because he’s a principled conservative? They convinced a ton of Americans that if you say the word “gay” in Florida Ronald will send you straight to jail. He wasn’t even a candidate then. Eta: you guys know Ronald was going to pivot hard as fuck to the middle if he miraculously made it to the general? GWB 2.0. Likely a less conservative legislature than in Florida unless an actual red wave manifests. Don’t forget how purple of a state Florida was. DeSantis won by a RCH in ‘18 then by 20 points in ‘22 (over a well funded former governor). All while being attacked constantly by the media in the state for years. People outside the state may not know of the constant “Deathsantis” ads playing here. The “don’t say gay” ads ran also. As did the “book burner” ads. It didn’t stop Floridians from reelecting the guy in a landslide. I don’t know that he’ll pivot to the middle. His record would indicate otherwise. He’s governed Florida far to the right than GWB governed Texas. |
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Originally Posted By MK3110: Likely a less conservative legislature than in Florida unless an actual red wave manifests. Don’t forget how purple of a state Florida was. DeSantis won by a RCH in ‘18 then by 20 points in ‘22 (over a well funded former governor). All while being attacked constantly by the media in the state for years. People outside the state may not know of the constant “Deathsantis” ads playing here. The “don’t say gay” ads ran also. As did the “book burner” ads. It didn’t stop Floridians from reelecting the guy in a landslide. I don’t know that he’ll pivot to the middle. His record would indicate otherwise. He’s governed Florida far to the right than GWB governed Texas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MK3110: Likely a less conservative legislature than in Florida unless an actual red wave manifests. Don’t forget how purple of a state Florida was. DeSantis won by a RCH in ‘18 then by 20 points in ‘22 (over a well funded former governor). All while being attacked constantly by the media in the state for years. People outside the state may not know of the constant “Deathsantis” ads playing here. The “don’t say gay” ads ran also. As did the “book burner” ads. It didn’t stop Floridians from reelecting the guy in a landslide. I don’t know that he’ll pivot to the middle. His record would indicate otherwise. He’s governed Florida far to the right than GWB governed Texas. I knew the media was bad when he ran against the gay, black, meth head. I didn’t follow when he ran against Crist, as I figured Florida was happy with Ronald and he was going to be reelected regardless. Originally Posted By Low_Country: He has a resume of success at the state level in almost every area that conservatives purport to care about. Given the alternative options, that at least deserves heavy consideration. If he failed at the national level, then he failed. But giving him a shot made way more sense than re-nominating the dude who we know isn't up to the task. All fair points about Ronald’s record. My bone of contention is the guy just wasn’t electable on a national level in his current form. He wasn’t even going to win the primary in the state he achieved all his success. How much support do you give a guy who has great policies, but zero chance of winning? Does it make more sense to support the guy you don’t agree with on everything, but who stands the only realistic chance of preventing 4 more years of Biden. I understand Trump raw dogs gross porn stars, cheats on his wife, doesn’t like dogs, banned bump stocks, increased the deficit by trillions, incited an insurrection, failed to drain the swamp, angered Khizr Khan, tried to overturn the 2020 election, viciously rapes women and is literally orange, but he’s better than Biden and has the ability to win. |
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Poking internet kooks with pointy sticks since '81
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Repeal the 17th Amendment. Restore the Republic!
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Poking internet kooks with pointy sticks since '81
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Nope, you are, since you voted for him for the nomination over DeSantis. It 100% lies in your collective hands. I didn't vote for Trump to be the nominee, you guys did. I'll vote for Trump now that he's the nominee, but I won't stop pointing out all the reasons DeSantis should've been the guy. Fucking own it for Gods sake. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Originally Posted By redfish86: Those of us who support the former POTUS are not to blame for my Governor not being the presumptive nominee. Sell that shit somewhere else. Nope, you are, since you voted for him for the nomination over DeSantis. It 100% lies in your collective hands. I didn't vote for Trump to be the nominee, you guys did. I'll vote for Trump now that he's the nominee, but I won't stop pointing out all the reasons DeSantis should've been the guy. Fucking own it for Gods sake. DeSantis had dropped out way before we got to vote down here in Florida. |
Repeal the 17th Amendment. Restore the Republic!
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Originally Posted By Subpar: I knew the media was bad when he ran against the gay, black, meth head. I didn’t follow when he ran against Crist, as I figured Florida was happy with Ronald and he was going to be reelected regardless. All fair points about Ronald’s record. My bone of contention is the guy just wasn’t electable on a national level in his current form. He wasn’t even going to win the primary in the state he achieved all his success. How much support do you give a guy who has great policies, but zero chance of winning? Does it make more sense to support the guy you don’t agree with on everything, but who stands the only realistic chance of preventing 4 more years of Biden. I understand Trump raw dogs gross porn stars, cheats on his wife, doesn’t like dogs, banned bump stocks, increased the deficit by trillions, incited an insurrection, failed to drain the swamp, angered Khizr Khan, tried to overturn the 2020 election, viciously rapes women and is literally orange, but he’s better than Biden and has the ability to win. View Quote I disagree with your election assessment. Primary elections and general elections are two different beasts. Success in one does not equate to success in the other. And while Donald Trump still clearly owns the GOP, I believe he has very little chance in a general election, even against an opponent with as much fail as Joe Biden. On the other hand, DeSantis clearly did not do well in the GOP primary. But don't forget, he soundly won his re-election bid in 2022, capturing blue counties that hadn't gone red in a generation. The political middle and swing voters decide elections, and most of them don't vote in the GOP primary. |
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Never before has so much been owed by so many to so few.
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Arfcom GD in Dec 2023 - “DeSantis is an establishment plant!” I’ll never forgive the Trump cultists for their lies. This guy easily could’ve been our president in a few months if the GOP voter base wasn’t full of brain dead idiots who think with their feelings. View Quote The establishment got what the establishment wanted. Trump will most likely lose but if he can pull it off they know how to easily manipulate him and he’s proven himself an ineffective leader. Ronnie D is absolutely wrecking the Democrat party in FL to the point they openly admitted they were giving up on FL until he’s termed out. |
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Originally Posted By eurotrash: If this was really about bump stocks or infidelity, the anti-Trump sentiment would have died down after the IA caucus when it was clear Trump would be the candidate. No, this is about something else View Quote Because we know he will lose and we’ll get 4 more years of Biden. |
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This thread is a great example of why the democrats will continue to hold the presidency, besides cheating of course. We are far too busy fighting each other, when we should be fighting against the Dems.
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Originally Posted By SavedByTheBlood:Because we know he will lose and we’ll get 4 more years of Biden. View Quote I think Trump can pull it off. Things staying shitty up to election and a couple more Biden gaffes, it’s not out of reach. Lotta variables. |
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice |
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Originally Posted By Low_Country: I disagree with your election assessment. Primary elections and general elections are two different beasts. Success in one does not equate to success in the other. And while Donald Trump still clearly owns the GOP, I believe he has very little chance in a general election, even against an opponent with as much fail as Joe Biden. On the other hand, DeSantis clearly did not do well in the GOP primary. But don't forget, he soundly won his re-election bid in 2022, capturing blue counties that hadn't gone red in a generation. The political middle and swing voters decide elections, and most of them don't vote in the GOP primary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By Subpar: I knew the media was bad when he ran against the gay, black, meth head. I didn't follow when he ran against Crist, as I figured Florida was happy with Ronald and he was going to be reelected regardless. All fair points about Ronald's record. My bone of contention is the guy just wasn't electable on a national level in his current form. He wasn't even going to win the primary in the state he achieved all his success. How much support do you give a guy who has great policies, but zero chance of winning? Does it make more sense to support the guy you don't agree with on everything, but who stands the only realistic chance of preventing 4 more years of Biden. I understand Trump raw dogs gross porn stars, cheats on his wife, doesn't like dogs, banned bump stocks, increased the deficit by trillions, incited an insurrection, failed to drain the swamp, angered Khizr Khan, tried to overturn the 2020 election, viciously rapes women and is literally orange, but he's better than Biden and has the ability to win. I disagree with your election assessment. Primary elections and general elections are two different beasts. Success in one does not equate to success in the other. And while Donald Trump still clearly owns the GOP, I believe he has very little chance in a general election, even against an opponent with as much fail as Joe Biden. On the other hand, DeSantis clearly did not do well in the GOP primary. But don't forget, he soundly won his re-election bid in 2022, capturing blue counties that hadn't gone red in a generation. The political middle and swing voters decide elections, and most of them don't vote in the GOP primary. |
Repeal the 17th Amendment. Restore the Republic!
A right should restrict the government, not obligate it! |
Originally Posted By MK3110: Likely a less conservative legislature than in Florida unless an actual red wave manifests. Don’t forget how purple of a state Florida was. DeSantis won by a RCH in ‘18 then by 20 points in ‘22 (over a well funded former governor). All while being attacked constantly by the media in the state for years. People outside the state may not know of the constant “Deathsantis” ads playing here. The “don’t say gay” ads ran also. As did the “book burner” ads. It didn’t stop Floridians from reelecting the guy in a landslide. I don’t know that he’ll pivot to the middle. His record would indicate otherwise. He’s governed Florida far to the right than GWB governed Texas. View Quote He’s the farthest right governor we’ve had in my lifetime. |
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Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie: I disagree with you on Trumps ability to win, but I don't think anyone (well, very few) are saying that DeSantis sucks, it just wasn't his time. He couldn't get any traction. He will have his chance. Almost every person elected president in my lifetime did not win the first time they took a run at it (FBHO being the exception, but only fool believes he was not elected due to racism), DeSantis will get his shot. View Quote His campaign did leave a lot to be desired. I would have enjoyed the opportunity to watch him debate Trump. |
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Arfcom GD in Dec 2023 - “DeSantis is an establishment plant!” I’ll never forgive the Trump cultists for their lies. This guy easily could’ve been our president in a few months if the GOP voter base wasn’t full of brain dead idiots who think with their feelings. View Quote Like I give a fuck. |
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout: You mean the nominee that quit in January? Not that I was going to vote for desantis but its hard to vote for someone when he quits before the majority of the country can vote for him. Sounds like your ire is directed at the wrong people. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ApacheScout: Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Nope, you are, since you voted for him for the nomination over DeSantis. It 100% lies in your collective hands. I didn't vote for Trump to be the nominee, you guys did. I'll vote for Trump now that he's the nominee, but I won't stop pointing out all the reasons DeSantis should've been the guy. Fucking own it for Gods sake. I was going to vote for DeSantis in the primary but he fucking quit. |
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Originally Posted By Subpar: I knew the media was bad when he ran against the gay, black, meth head. I didn’t follow when he ran against Crist, as I figured Florida was happy with Ronald and he was going to be reelected regardless. All fair points about Ronald’s record. My bone of contention is the guy just wasn’t electable on a national level in his current form. He wasn’t even going to win the primary in the state he achieved all his success. How much support do you give a guy who has great policies, but zero chance of winning? Does it make more sense to support the guy you don’t agree with on everything, but who stands the only realistic chance of preventing 4 more years of Biden. I understand Trump raw dogs gross porn stars, cheats on his wife, doesn’t like dogs, banned bump stocks, increased the deficit by trillions, incited an insurrection, failed to drain the swamp, angered Khizr Khan, tried to overturn the 2020 election, viciously rapes women and is literally orange, but he’s better than Biden and has the ability to win. View Quote He has zero chance of winning. Only one of the following can be correct. 1. The 2020 election was legitimately stolen from him by the democrats because of the system of cheating in place and the fix is in. If this is correct no conservative will ever win potus again. 2. He legitimately lost the election to an almost brain dead dementia riddled individual. If legitimately lost there is no reason to believe he can win again. The fact that he is running again is proof he legitimately lost in 2020. If the election was that rigged there would be no point in running again. |
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It's almost like he understands how government works and how to get things accomplished. Weird that people would rather have someone that has no idea how it works and all of his accomplishments (except the judges) are washed away within days by opposite executive orders.
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For those who get it no explanation is necessary. For those who don't no explanation is possible.
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Originally Posted By FivespeedF150: I’m not the biggest DeSantis cheerleader on this site (top five though, probably). I think Trump can pull it off. Things staying shitty up to election and a couple more Biden gaffes, it’s not out of reach. Lotta variables. View Quote Meh. It would have to be something big. Aside from high gas prices which are out of the president’s control I’m way better off financially now than I was between 2016-2020 I was told in 2008 the election was in the bag because nobody in America is going to vote for some guy name Barack Obama. I expect America to elect the brain dead pants pooper again. |
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Originally Posted By Subpar: I understand Trump raw dogs gross porn stars, cheats on his wife, doesn't like dogs, banned bump stocks, increased the deficit by trillions, incited an insurrection, failed to drain the swamp, angered Khizr Khan, tried to overturn the 2020 election, viciously rapes women and is literally orange, but he's better than Biden and has the ability to win. View Quote Sig line material right there! |
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Originally Posted By Dragracer: Sig line material right there! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dragracer: Originally Posted By Subpar: I understand Trump raw dogs gross porn stars, cheats on his wife, doesn't like dogs, banned bump stocks, increased the deficit by trillions, incited an insurrection, failed to drain the swamp, angered Khizr Khan, tried to overturn the 2020 election, viciously rapes women and is literally orange, but he's better than Biden and has the ability to win. Sig line material right there! |
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice |
Originally Posted By SavedByTheBlood:Meh. It would have to be something big. Aside from high gas prices which are out of the president’s control I’m way better off financially now than I was between 2016-2020 I was told in 2008 the election was in the bag because nobody in America is going to vote for some guy name Barack Obama. I expect America to elect the brain dead pants pooper again. View Quote |
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice |
That POS Governor is truly an establishment plant. At one point in time, I too was easily peddled the lie that he would make for a good POTUS. He would make for nothing other than a neocon in charge, like Haley.
We are living in crazy times, with worldwide hot-headed leadership. Why should we be the exception to the rule when we stand so much to lose at a time like no other in our country's history? Our streets are littered with illegals you see on government-funded bicycles every time you drive, our native generations hooked on pot and crack, and our schools braindead. And we need a governor who thinks this country can still be returned to the 1950s as our POTUS? GTFO DeSantis loyalists. |
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Arfcom GD in Dec 2023 - “DeSantis is an establishment plant!” I’ll never forgive the Trump cultists for their lies. This guy easily could’ve been our president in a few months if the GOP voter base wasn’t full of brain dead idiots who think with their feelings. View Quote Personally, I think DeSantis is one of the best governors we've seen in this century. That said, if he did manage to take the Presidential nomination, and kept the same campaign team he used, we would be looking at the 4th Obama term come November. He really needs another term in Tallahassee, while building out his national network. Hate it if you like, but that's the game today. |
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Originally Posted By AKzgalore: That POS Governor is truly an establishment plant. At one point in time, I too was easily peddled the lie that he would make for a good POTUS. He would make for nothing other than a neocon in charge, like Haley. We are living in crazy times, with worldwide hot-headed leadership. Why should we be the exception to the rule when we stand so much to lose at a time like no other in our country's history? Our streets are littered with illegals you see on government-funded bicycles every time you drive, our native generations hooked on pot and crack, and our schools braindead. And we need a governor who thinks this country can still be returned to the 1950s as our POTUS? GTFO DeSantis loyalists. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Arfcom GD in Dec 2023 - “DeSantis is an establishment plant!” I’ll never forgive the Trump cultists for their lies. This guy easily could’ve been our president in a few months if the GOP voter base wasn’t full of brain dead idiots who think with their feelings. View Quote Ayup |
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Originally Posted By redfish86: Those of us who support the former POTUS are not to blame for my Governor not being the presumptive nominee. Sell that shit somewhere else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By redfish86: Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Arfcom GD in Dec 2023 - “DeSantis is an establishment plant!” I’ll never forgive the Trump cultists for their lies. This guy easily could’ve been our president in a few months if the GOP wasn’t full of brain dead idiots who think with their feelings. Those of us who support the former POTUS are not to blame for my Governor not being the presumptive nominee. Sell that shit somewhere else. Then who are the liberals that voted for nyc Don in the primary? |
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Originally Posted By odiedodi: DeSantis wasn't even running anymore by the time Florida voted. I didn't even go vote. I'm sick and totally forgot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Nope, you are, since you voted for him for the nomination over DeSantis. It 100% lies in your collective hands. I didn't vote for Trump to be the nominee, you guys did. I'll vote for Trump now that he's the nominee, but I won't stop pointing out all the reasons DeSantis should've been the guy. Fucking own it for Gods sake. How many primaries were held before the FL primary? |
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout: The part in red. I plan on voting for Trump. Sorry desantis wasn't more popular but that isn't my fault. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ApacheScout: Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: He quit because he knew staying in would hurt the party and the chances of actually winning the general election. Ultimately he knew it wasn't about him. The early states had set the tone and that was the voters decision to make not his. Again, you thought Trump was the better executive and better candidate. Own it. I'll continue to point out why DeSantis was the better candidate every time he does something based as an executive, which if history is any indication won't stop anytime soon. We put up with your lies about DeSantis for months to prop up "your" guy, and now you are trying to absticate responsibility. I wish I could say I'm surprised. CA values has rubbed off on you. |
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Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: CA values has rubbed off on you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Originally Posted By ApacheScout: Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: He quit because he knew staying in would hurt the party and the chances of actually winning the general election. Ultimately he knew it wasn't about him. The early states had set the tone and that was the voters decision to make not his. Again, you thought Trump was the better executive and better candidate. Own it. I'll continue to point out why DeSantis was the better candidate every time he does something based as an executive, which if history is any indication won't stop anytime soon. We put up with your lies about DeSantis for months to prop up "your" guy, and now you are trying to absticate responsibility. I wish I could say I'm surprised. CA values has rubbed off on you. |
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Jesus fucking Christ, getting called an antisemite because you misspelled abdicate. This fucking place, the most pedantic place on the internet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Originally Posted By ThornBooger: Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Originally Posted By ApacheScout: Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Nope, you are, since you voted for him for the nomination over DeSantis. It 100% lies in your collective hands. I didn't vote for Trump to be the nominee, you guys did. I'll vote for Trump now that he's the nominee, but I won't stop pointing out all the reasons DeSantis should've been the guy. Fucking own it for Gods sake. He quit because he knew staying in would hurt the party and the chances of actually winning the general election. Ultimately he knew it wasn't about him. The early states had set the tone and that was the voters decision to make not his. Again, you thought Trump was the better executive and better candidate. Own it. I'll continue to point out why DeSantis was the better candidate every time he does something based as an executive, which if history is any indication won't stop anytime soon. We put up with your lies about DeSantis for months to prop up "your" guy, and now you are trying to absticate responsibility. I wish I could say I'm surprised. Jesus fucking Christ, getting called an antisemite because you misspelled abdicate. This fucking place, the most pedantic place on the internet. I wonder if Florida will cover the formation of the NKVD and the makeup of it's members. Hope that doesn't get labeled as anti Semitic and get swept under the rug. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/25/russia.books Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of Jews in Soviet-era repression Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet purges. In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together - a reference to the 1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the Russian Jewish population - contains three chapters discussing the Jewish role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet Russia. But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book, and questioned Solzhenitsyn's motives in writing it, accusing him of factual inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia. Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period "consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians" as being behind the genocide. But he states that all the nation's ethnic groups must share the blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish experience. In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: "If I would care to generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The Jews whose experience I saw - their life was softer than that of others." Yet he added: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds were Jews, is certainly incorrect." Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power that also persecuted them. "My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about us." But Solzhenitsyn's book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish leader said it was "not of any merit". "This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes," said Yevgeny Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. "Richard Wagner did not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews. "This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200 years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit." But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn's biographers, said that he did not think the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. "I would not doubt his sincerity. He says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright, decent, anti-Stalinist people." Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book, Solzhenitsyn was "absolutely right". Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including the cheka. "Trotsky's idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to] objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They were part-victims and part-perpetrators. "It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn's book seems much more measured than that." Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn's pursuit of this particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB), said: "The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change. "If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now." |
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Originally Posted By MFP_4073: user name does NOT fit dude is a machine -- what has your preferred candidate actually ACCOMPLISHED ?? Desantis signs tax relief https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/taxes/desantis-florida-tax-relief-bill Desantis signs Constitutional Carry https://apnews.com/article/guns-desantis-florida-government-ac7adbc200cc4c1bb429ea84357f73be Desantis signs death penalty bill for child rapists https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/desantis-expands-death-penalty-include-child-rape-setting-likely-court-rcna82413 Desantis removes 'woke' lenient / soft-on-crime DAs https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/09/desantis-suspends-state-attorney-worrell-00110445 Desantis sends personnel to assist with border security https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/government/2024/02/01/gov-ron-desantis-sends-florida-national-state-guard-to-texas-southern-border-razor-wire-court/72422043007/ Desantis yanks BILLIONS from woke / ESG investment firms https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/12/01/florida-desantis-blackrock-esg-woke/10812382002/ Desantis axes DEI programs at state universities https://apnews.com/article/dei-eliminated-university-florida-desantis-gainesville-education-804ff56bfeaa9787a91860e8470ae664 etc etc absolutely the opposite of R-I-N-O View Quote You conveniently left out the pro-police state bill. Don't get me wrong, I like my current states governor more than my previous states (PA) governor but he signs some shitty bills, too. |
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