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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:25:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bigger_Hammer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: The idiocy of your position that RECEIVING aid over 200 years ago means we should be sending billions to other Countries now has already been noted. Thanks for playing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: So, Madison was so "deranged" that he saw how the "Confederation of States" had been so terribly ineffective in the American Revolutionary War (to the point we would have lost independence without significant Military Aid from France & Financial support from the Dutch) that Madison believed a strong Federal system would better serve the nation but was so "Schizo" that he insisted on the Bill Of Rights to ensure the protection of the Citizens...  Thank You for the laughs this morning  Bigger_Hammer  Thanks for playing. If it is fucking up Putin's Russia, North Korea, Iran or Communist China then I'm willing to send them to tools (weapons) to get it done. You do know that the US received foreign military aid from our Allies as recently as WW1 & WW2 right? You tried to give it a try, but came up "short" again...  We have some lovely parting contestants gifts for you over there on your way out... Bigger_Hammer
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:26:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Speaking of "Pathetic", your reply was a textbook example of it. To be honest there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits "Foreign Aid" sent or received) if legislation authorizing same is passed by Congress & signed by the Executive (President). Can you show us the specific laws or SCOTUS case(s) that prohibits receipt or sending Foreign Aid to or from Allies? Of course you can't... Pathetic indeed!  Bigger_Hammer Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Originally Posted By LordsOfDiscipline: Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: For someone supposedly so "stupid"... That would be a brilliant move... Not gonna pass, but it does point out the fact that it isn't anywhere in our Constitution for us to be sending taxpayer money to ANY OTHER COUNTRY like that... The founders sent foreign aid to other countries and they wrote the document  Many so called "Patriots" today keep 'forgetting' that the United States would not have won it's own War of Independence, if not for the "foreign Military aid" of France. You can be sure the Founding Fathers knew & appreciated that fact. Bigger_Hammer Be honest, you didn't read your post before you hit the submit button You do understand taking foreign aid is different than receiving foreign aid. pathetic Speaking of "Pathetic", your reply was a textbook example of it. To be honest there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits "Foreign Aid" sent or received) if legislation authorizing same is passed by Congress & signed by the Executive (President). Can you show us the specific laws or SCOTUS case(s) that prohibits receipt or sending Foreign Aid to or from Allies? Of course you can't... Pathetic indeed! Bigger_Hammer "The Founders would never, ever do such a thing! And don't say Madison, he doesn't count as a Founder!" |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:27:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: I still insist to this day that had Songbird put his ego in check and the ticket been Palin/McCain... they would have won. "1st Female President" and all that... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: Originally Posted By Alacran: Even though I really voted for Sarah Palin in 2008, I still regret actually voting for McCain. If had it to do over again, I would have done a write-in vote, even against the communist Obama.  Yeah, Palin saved him from utter disgrace with election turnout that year. Just the thought of McCain still makes my blood boil.  |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:39:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: If it is fucking up Putin's Russia, North Korea, Iran or Communist China then I'm willing to send them to tools (weapons) to get it done. Using that to justify sending billions to every tinpot bullshit place on Earth is fucked especially since we're $32T in debt... |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:46:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Many so called "Patriots" today keep 'forgetting' that the United States would not have won it's own War of Independence, if not for the "foreign Military aid" of France. You can be sure the Founding Fathers knew & appreciated that fact. Bigger_Hammer and France still speaks French because we saved it in ww1 and ww2. paid in full |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:00:46 PM EDT
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kinda says it all that Johnson was rescued by the democraps. after all he's doing their work. and the pantshitter in chief loves him some Johnson too.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:33:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LUZCANNON: kinda says it all that Johnson was rescued by the democraps. after all he's doing their work. and the pantshitter in chief loves him some Johnson too. Neva been done befo in >247 yrs
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:41:16 PM EDT
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Have all the people that can’t stand her started the list of republicans that are better than she along with the list of things they have done to further our cause and country?
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:42:18 PM EDT
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Does GOP = RINO?
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:46:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nightstalker: Does GOP = RINO? The best analogy I’ve seen is the Democrats are the Harlem Globetrotters and the Republicans are the Washington Generals. Sure seems very fitting. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:51:20 PM EDT
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The way I see it, she is an idiot, and she is trying to wreck the GOP establishment. The Grand Old Party hasn't been a republican party for years, but is still called the Republican party, it's members are still called Republicans, and it does still have some members with a republican ideology, but a large percentage of the current members do not. The Democratic party isn't democratic in the way most people think of democracy. It's a democratic centralist party. They decide what the majority of their members want, and everyone toes the line. The move towards authoritarian dominant party democratic centralism, and away from constitutional republicanism, has been going on for over a century. Unfortunately, the average person thinks it's democracy, and is blind to the fascism we are barreling towards.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:52:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4603178-greene-says-she-doesnt-care-if-speakers-office-becomes-a-revolving-door/ “I don’t care if the Speaker’s office becomes a revolving door,” continued Greene, who has filed a motion to oust Johnson from his current role. “If that’s exactly what needs to happen, then let it be. But the days are over of the old Republican Party that wants to fund foreign wars and murder people in foreign lands, while they stab the American people in their face.” https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/marjorie-taylor-greene-mike-johnson-christian-support-rcna148390 Greene and her fellow ideologues may want to tread carefully. There is a growing backlash on the Christian right against the move to oust Johnson. While Greene’s MAGA influencer antics garner significant media attention, people with longtime clout in the evangelical political trenches, including Johnson himself, have been waging a quiet but scathing war against her in Christian media. The GOP’s evangelical base — vital to Republican hopes in the fall — is hearing that Greene is groundlessly attacking a godly man and imperiling the party’s election chances, thus bringing (in Johnson’s words) the Democrats’ “crazy woke agenda” closer to fruition. Johnson is a rino who bows to the democrats and just helped their woke agenda. The Christian right isn't stupid. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:52:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: The best analogy I’ve seen is the Democrats are the Harlem Globetrotters and the Republicans are the Washington Generals. Sure seems very fitting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Originally Posted By nightstalker: Does GOP = RINO? The best analogy I’ve seen is the Democrats are the Harlem Globetrotters and the Republicans are the Washington Generals. Sure seems very fitting. Send in the fucking clowns.. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:02:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: We see it. It’s just nonsense. Ironically enough Mtg claims to be a “Christian nationalist” and a small government kind of person but took PPP loans and cheated on and divorced her husband after 25ish years and praised Putin  So many sinless people on this site. 
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:07:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: Have all the people that can’t stand her started the list of republicans that are better than she along with the list of things they have done to further our cause and country? They can't, yet they shit all over those that actually give a damn and stand against the left. Fucking hypocrites, this place is full of. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:10:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: We see it. It’s just nonsense. Ironically enough Mtg claims to be a “Christian nationalist” and a small government kind of person but took PPP loans and cheated on and divorced her husband after 25ish years and praised Putin lol! Brings up PPP loans. Invalidated anything else he posted. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:12:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: They can't, yet they shit all over those that actually give a damn and stand against the left. Fucking hypocrites, this place is full of. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: Originally Posted By Gspointer: Have all the people that can’t stand her started the list of republicans that are better than she along with the list of things they have done to further our cause and country? They can't, yet they shit all over those that actually give a damn and stand against the left. Fucking hypocrites, this place is full of. Seeding discourse among our community is their only purpose here and looking at several of the responses, it is indeed working. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:26:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HangfiresGhost: Fuck the GOP alligators. I fully approve MTG's actions. You really think we’ll be better off when Dems take the House? Because self-serving bullshit from stupid populists in safe red districts is how Dems take back the House. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:38:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: lol! Brings up PPP loans. Invalidated anything else he posted. And there’s the deflection right on time!
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:38:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwr6: You really think we’ll be better off when Dems take the House? Because self-serving bullshit from stupid populists in safe red districts is how Dems take back the House. They don’t care. They’re enamored with immaturity and mean tweets, they don’t care if we get fucked in the long run. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:40:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gspointer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: And there’s the deflection right on time! No need to deflect. It’s a bunch of puritanical garbage, laced with an inability to understand what PPP is. Literally the garbage the left will use. Alinsky. Yeah. That’s super credible. List all of the great achievements of the GOP stalwarts in the last 20 years |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:42:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: No need to deflect. List all of the great achievements of the GOP stalwarts in the last 20 years Damn, followed it up with a whataboutism. Talent. What will be your 3rd act!? |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:43:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Damn, followed it up with a whataboutism. Talent. What will be your 3rd act!? Proving that you can’t name a single accomplishment of the party that you pretend to support. Illuminating your true purpose here. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:47:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: Proving that you can’t name a single accomplishment of the party that you pretend to support. Illuminating your true purpose here. It’s always the same shit. “wHaTaBoUtIsM.” I’m not playing your game. Stick to the topic or talk to yourself. I am not concerned what you think(word used loosely) my “purpose” here is. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 2:59:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: It’s always the same shit. “wHaTaBoUtIsM.” I’m not playing your game. Stick to the topic or talk to yourself. I am not concerned what you think(word used loosely) my “purpose” here is. So. Apparently you are unable to name a single positive thing that the GOP has done, yet you have 8000 Posts in a year? I think you just played “my game”. Thank you! |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 3:02:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: No need to deflect. It's a bunch of puritanical garbage, laced with an inability to understand what PPP is. Literally the garbage the left will use. Alinsky. Yeah. That's super credible. List all of the great achievements of the GOP stalwarts in the last 20 years Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: And there's the deflection right on time! No need to deflect. It's a bunch of puritanical garbage, laced with an inability to understand what PPP is. Literally the garbage the left will use. Alinsky. Yeah. That's super credible. List all of the great achievements of the GOP stalwarts in the last 20 years |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 3:05:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nightstalker: The only thing they were elected to DO was LESS. Legislate less, spend less, and remove government INTRUSIONS into our rights. As far as I’m concerned, government does little to help the citizenry, so the less they accomplish the better. Neither of em fights for our rights anymore. I generally pay more attention to State/Local government. They at least to a point can still be swayed by their constituency. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:26:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Seeding discourse among our community is their only purpose here and looking at several of the responses, it is indeed working. Like accusing folks of being Biden supporters and voters? |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:34:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Like accusing folks of being Biden supporters and voters?  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Like accusing folks of being Biden supporters and voters? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Alacran: Seeding discourse among our community is their only purpose here and looking at several of the responses, it is indeed working. Like accusing folks of being Biden supporters and voters? Well, I sure as hell haven’t seen any evidence of them being antiBiden voters. If Johnson gave a shit about this country, he’d make a stand on securing the border and not put your beloved Ukraine ahead of America. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:56:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Like accusing folks of being Biden supporters and voters? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/grover_burning_gif-1027.gif The emoji-GIF tycoon strikes again! |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:59:22 PM EDT
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Republicans are their own worst enemy
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:25:42 PM EDT
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The Uniparty has gone all in.
They can not win elections (fairly) so they are using every tactic to make sure they take control for good. Soviet Union style "Republic" is what we will have if they are successful. Secret Police Elections for show only End of the 2A and weapons confiscations. Unfetered spying on citizens. Media 100% controlled by the state. Endless foreign wars. Confiscation of Retirement plans Healthcare 100% controls by the state. Not sure at this point it can be stopped. MTG sees it coming downing the tracks and is one of few not afraid to fight it. Most, like Fox News, are lining up to be Good Citizens. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:40:27 PM EDT
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buffoon and a grandstander with no qualms in destroying the GOP....
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:44:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AdLucem: buffoon and a grandstander with no qualms in destroying the GOP.... Well, I hope that ukwaine aid was worth it 
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:58:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: The Father of the Constitution wasn't "Founder" enough for you. Got it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: Originally Posted By macros73: It was signed and executed by President James Madison. You might have heard his name. They call him "Father of the Constitution." The very same BoR your boy FJB is pissing all over right now... Your disingenuousness is noted.... The Father of the Constitution wasn't "Founder" enough for you. Got it. It was a committee decision that not everyone was happy with. Pretty every single Founder/Framer did some dumb shit when they made it to the Presidency. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:09:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: It was a committee decision that not everyone was happy with. Pretty every single Founder/Framer did some dumb shit when they made it to the Presidency. Sir, I hope you aren't accusing Founders of participating in compromise, negotiation, and seeking a consensus. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:30:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HangfiresGhost: Fuck the GOP alligators. I fully approve MTG's actions. Yep, Trump is as big a buffoon (that I'll vote for) as her but the greater separation we can get from establishment turds in all branches the better. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:51:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_Blaster]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Except I was actively involved in countering human and narco trafficking and I did exactly that. We had countless turnbacks who went back across the river after they saw us and heard our commands. I'm still free today and haven't been arrested. I even arrested folks and turned them over to BP. Could you tell the DOJ/FBI/ATF to hurry up? Plenty of dudes got arrested for dumb stuff down there. DWI. Marijuana. Reckless driving. Assault. Nobody ever got arrested for doing their job. None. It's been 2 years now. **Desist What was false about what I stated? What is your first hand knowledge? Oh, I'm sorry. I must be mistaken. You weren't acting under the auspices of the government, now were you? You were just a regular dude in the crowd who went down there & pushed back against the tide - right? I was pretty sure just any citizen in this country can't just go down to the border & push back against the hordes, but I could be wrong. Am I supposed to take the US government seriously even though it has been flying illegals into all corners of the nation & setting them up at our expense, or should I call bullshit? Have any example of Joe citizen being able to stop this without catching heat from the fed? Spill it. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 2:53:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster: Oh, I'm sorry. I must be mistaken. You weren't acting under the auspices of the government, now were you? You were just a regular dude in the crowd who went down there & pushed back against the tide - right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster: Oh, I'm sorry. I must be mistaken. You weren't acting under the auspices of the government, now were you? You were just a regular dude in the crowd who went down there & pushed back against the tide - right? I was acting on behalf of the state of Texas. I am a regular dude. If I can get into the guard anyone can. It was a great decision 7 years ago and it’s still a good deal today. Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: I was pretty sure just any citizen in this country can't just go down to the border & push back against the hordes, but I could be wrong. Am I supposed to take the US government seriously even though it has been flying illegals into all corners of the nation & setting them up at our expense, or should I call bullshit? Have any example of Joe citizen being able to stop this without catching heat from the fed? Spill it. The problem with your idea is it’s comical, a joke, and cringe worthy. There are a litany of state agencies working on OLS who fight and get at each others throats enough as it is. Allowing random dudes to come in and determine their own “border policy” would be a nightmare for deconfliction and uniformity. I wasn’t working on the federal border mission. Never have. I was working on the state level mission that people here were so enthusiastic about as documented in the “Texas boogaloo” thread when abbot and the Texas national and state guard flipped Biden off and refused to leave Shelby park. Everyone wants to be on the front lines and be a hero. Nobody wants to do it when it’s cold and wet. Or when it’s hard. Or when it’s on a weekend and you have poker with the boys. Or when you’re having a few brewskis later Who is going to run and grab food for the guys? Who is going to handle the admin side and compile green2 reports for the CUB so private snuffy can be checked to make sure he hasn’t lost his SI? The state guard will happily take you and pay you to do it. Originally Posted By Alacran: Well, I sure as hell haven’t seen any evidence of them being antiBiden voters. If Johnson gave a shit about this country, he’d make a stand on securing the border and not put your beloved Ukraine ahead of America. “I don’t see evidence, therefore it must exist and prove my biased, pre conceived notion/idea”. Biden won’t give an inch. So now we have no border security and no Ukraine aid and a collapse of the Ukrainian army and government. We want both. You want us to settle for nothing when we can get one of the two. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 4:49:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_Blaster]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: I was acting on behalf of the state of Texas. I am a regular dude. If I can get into the guard anyone can. It was a great decision 7 years ago and it’s still a good deal today. The problem with your idea is it’s comical, a joke, and cringe worthy. There are a litany of state agencies working on OLS who fight and get at each others throats enough as it is. Allowing random dudes to come in and determine their own “border policy” would be a nightmare for deconfliction and uniformity. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: I was acting on behalf of the state of Texas. I am a regular dude. If I can get into the guard anyone can. It was a great decision 7 years ago and it’s still a good deal today. The problem with your idea is it’s comical, a joke, and cringe worthy. There are a litany of state agencies working on OLS who fight and get at each others throats enough as it is. Allowing random dudes to come in and determine their own “border policy” would be a nightmare for deconfliction and uniformity. Come again? My idea? You really are quite the disengenuous liar. I wasn’t working on the federal border mission. Never have. I was working on the state level mission that people here were so enthusiastic about as documented in the “Texas boogaloo” thread when abbot and the Texas national and state guard flipped Biden off and refused to leave Shelby park. Everyone wants to be on the front lines and be a hero. Nobody wants to do it when it’s cold and wet. Or when it’s hard. Or when it’s on a weekend and you have poker with the boys. Or when you’re having a few brewskis later Who is going to run and grab food for the guys? Who is going to handle the admin side and compile green2 reports for the CUB so private snuffy can be checked to make sure he hasn’t lost his SI? The state guard will happily take you and pay you to do it. You had zero problems crowing for anyone who called out your Ukraine hyocrisy - it's indisputable - to go to the US S border & "help out", ignoring the fact that anyone outside of government who just stands in the way of someone attempting to cross into here has better than even odds of being charged & arrested, especially under the current administration. So, no, junior, "anyone" can't go & even try to stop this. However, literally anyone can go to Ukraine & volunteer, & the only thing stopping you from legally resigning from the Guard & going there is you. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 6:46:34 AM EDT
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I hope she does. The GOP is terrible. See 2017-2018 congress if you want an example.
Being democrat light is awful. The shit they accomplish is almost nothing for the people. |
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