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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:08:08 PM EDT
[#1]
FN-FAL parts kits and surplus 7.62? Vote ‘em in!
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:12:53 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: So how is that going to work with the Falkland Islands? Simple, you kick the Brits out and bring Argentina in 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:14:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Isn't Brazil a half tick away from full blown communism?
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:15:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:18:09 PM EDT
[#5]
They're missing the North part of NATO. But then again Taiwan is missing the Atlantic part, and some people want them in. They'll need to start adding letters to nato as it bloats like a deer that has gotten hit by a car, make it NATOGBTQI+ or something
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:34:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish: I think you mean the Malvinas, Sir. Nope, it’s the proper name. The native inhabitants have decided to be apart of the United Kingdom. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:39:05 PM EDT
[#7]
In before Putniks say Argentina has no agency and the US forced them to want to join against their will.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:40:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: They're missing the North part of NATO. But then again Taiwan is missing the Atlantic part, and some people want them in. They'll need to start adding letters to nato as it bloats like a deer that has gotten hit by a car, make it NATOGBTQI+ or something NASAPTO. Has a nice Orwellian sounding name to it. 
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:40:23 PM EDT
[#9]
Why not Mexico? Send them all giant sums of cash on pallets. Maybe Chile could use a reboot too. Money solves it all apparently.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:40:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: Thats the neat part. 2% of 0 is in fact 0. But what if the zero is on a treadmill? |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:40:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: In before Putniks say Argentina has no agency and the US forced them to want to join against their will. Should be a marketing slogan for Russia. "We are so scary we made Argentina join NATO."
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:42:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Fuck them, that ain’t the North Atlantic. Upside, it would mean they forever forsake a claim to the Falklands… they would never take on a NATO ally.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:59:54 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: What kind of weapons? Old stuff or new stuff? Argentina isn't exactly known as an industrial powerhouse. Probably basic stuff. I know the west would love it if they built a big artillery factory. Milei is also very pro Ukraine which helps. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:04:24 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: They're missing the North part of NATO. But then again Taiwan is missing the Atlantic part, and some people want them in. They'll need to start adding letters to nato as it bloats like a deer that has gotten hit by a car, make it NATOGBTQI+ or something Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain aren't in the north Atlantic, either. The location of member countries doesn't seem to matter anymore. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:05:56 PM EDT
[#15]
Sounds like a good player to add to the team....
https://apnews.com/article/argentina-poverty-levels-uca-study-milei-devaluation-d5cb0a20b1e768efdeafbad5bf05eded Massive inflation, devalued currency, and 57% of the country now lives in poverty. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:09:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BillofRights]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RealityCheck0311: Sounds like a good player to add to the team.... https://apnews.com/article/argentina-poverty-levels-uca-study-milei-devaluation-d5cb0a20b1e768efdeafbad5bf05eded Massive inflation, devalued currency, and 57% of the country now lives in poverty. They are good people, and trying to turn things around. But you’d much rather have them join our enemies? 
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:10:04 PM EDT
[#17]
Absolutely not
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:14:29 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: They are good people, and trying to turn things around. But you’d much rather have them join our enemies? Well to be fair a lot of people here cheer for the enemies. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:16:37 PM EDT
[#19]
I don't want to support one more GD countries military needs. Stop paying for other people's shit.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:19:13 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: They are good people, and trying to turn things around. But you’d much rather have them join our enemies? Maybe? They tend to do this thing where they go full Capitalist and full socialist the following election cycle. Then back to Capitalist again. Like an economic yoyo. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:27:18 PM EDT
[#21]
And another thing. For all the Milei lickers out there - he's the new jefe - don't you think it's a bit odd that the "libertarian" presidente is a bit quick on the trigger to get all that sweet, sweet NATO cheese?
I think he sees where his economy is going and is desperately trying to get mo munny without printing it himself. He'd rather all the NATO countries print it for him. I could be wrong. But I doubt it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:30:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Notcalifornialegal]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: And another thing. For all the Milei lickers out there - he's the new jefe - don't you think it's a bit odd that the "libertarian" presidente is a bit quick on the trigger to get all that sweet, sweet NATO cheese? I think he sees where his economy is going and is desperately trying to get mo munny without printing it himself. He'd rather all the NATO countries print it for him. I could be wrong. But I doubt it. Bro can we just like... take our few W's when we get them? It doesn't ALL have to be a conspiracy. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:31:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lou_Daks]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Interesting. Very good point. Argentina is faced with making a decision on which side to ally themselves with. It all comes down to money and resources. I’ve been watching the Chinese fishing fleets plundering the Chilean side. It’s a thing to behold. Sometimes it’s lit up like a huge City down there. Maybe we can get Chile into Nato too. They can align themselves with whomever they please. It doesn't take NATO membership to align; there are many ways to do it. ETA: Chile should warn the Chinese ship captains, and then warn them again. Third warning sinks a ship. Word will get around. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 7:53:21 AM EDT
[#24]
NATO should disband.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:24:57 AM EDT
[#25]
The Argentine government is not a friend to this administration
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Posted: 4/19/2024 8:30:56 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: NATO should disband. Correct. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:20:10 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: What kind of weapons? Old stuff or new stuff? Argentina isn't exactly known as an industrial powerhouse. Bersa pistols. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:28:00 AM EDT
[#28]
We want Argentina to have veto power within NATO?
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:36:18 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Southernman077: We should send them a billion dollars. Only a billion? You no like Milei |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:40:46 AM EDT
[#30]
Are they really just asking to join the World Government?
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:41:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DK-Prof]
[#31]
Some of you guys seem confused about what Argentina is asking for.
They are NOT asking to be a NATO member. They are asking to be a NATO partner. Those are completely different things. NATO membership means you are part of the treaty, can invoke Article 5, and can expect the other NATO nations to defend you if you are attacked. Partners have no such rights or expectations, and can mean a little as some communication and coordination, or occasional joint training, etc.. From NATO's own page: Partnership in practice: how NATO works with partners NATO's partnership objectives are taken forward through a wide variety of means. Broadly speaking, NATO opens up parts of its processes, procedures and structures to the participation of partners, allowing partners to make concrete contributions through channels that are normally only used by members. In addition, NATO has developed a range of partnership tools and mechanisms to support cooperation with partner countries through a mix of policies, programmes, action plans and other arrangements. In some cases, special programmes have been created to assist and engage partners on their specific needs. In cooperating with NATO, partners can: - share insights on areas of common interest or concern through political consultations and intelligence-sharing; - gain access to advice and support as they reform and strengthen defence institutions and capacities; ---this includes activity areas like integrating gender perspectives into security and defence, and fighting against corruption in the defence sector; - participate in a rich menu of education, training and consultation events (approximately 1,400 events a year are open to partners through a Partnership Cooperation Menu); - prepare together for future operations and missions by participating in exercises and training; - contribute to current NATO-led operations and missions; - share lessons learned from past operations and develop policy for the future; - work together with Allies on research and capability development, including through joint scientific projects; and - enhance efforts to control or destroy arms, ammunition and unexploded ordnance. Some of the other Partners that already exist (in various different partnership programs within NATO) are: Pakistan, Colombia, Iraq, Qatar, Kuwait, Egypt, Tunisia, Israel, New Zealand, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan ... and lots of others This is not really news, or even particularly interesting. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:42:53 AM EDT
[#32]
Smaller/less powerful countries are going to align with larger world powers. They can align with us, or our competitors.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:44:46 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: And another thing. For all the Milei lickers out there - he's the new jefe - don't you think it's a bit odd that the "libertarian" presidente is a bit quick on the trigger to get all that sweet, sweet NATO cheese? I think he sees where his economy is going and is desperately trying to get mo munny without printing it himself. He'd rather all the NATO countries print it for him. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: And another thing. For all the Milei lickers out there - he's the new jefe - don't you think it's a bit odd that the "libertarian" presidente is a bit quick on the trigger to get all that sweet, sweet NATO cheese? I think he sees where his economy is going and is desperately trying to get mo munny without printing it himself. He'd rather all the NATO countries print it for him. What is all this "sweet, sweet NATO cheese" and "mo munny" that you are talking about?  If Argentina actually WAS applying for full membership (which they are not), it would COST them money, since they would have to vastly increase their military spending to reach NATO goals. I could be wrong. But I doubt it. You are wrong. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:46:18 AM EDT
[#34]
I've always wanted to visit Argentina
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:49:26 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: I've always wanted to visit Argentina I recommend it. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:53:40 AM EDT
[#36]
They'd fit right in.
They're not in the North Atlantic and don't field a competent military, |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:57:10 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: Thats the neat part. 2% of 0 is in fact 0. And geographically not a strategic location is still a geographically not a strategic location. But a friendly port might be ok. I bet England will welcome them back with open arms. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:58:09 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: I recommend it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By Commando223: I've always wanted to visit Argentina I recommend it. Any good guides? I know we had an arfcom member down there but i forget his name. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:03:42 AM EDT
[#39]
SATO is available...
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:08:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: michigan66]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: So how is that going to work with the Falkland Islands? They were an "extra-NATO" partner in the 1990s under Menem. Didn't affect the Malvinas/Falkland issue at all |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:09:43 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mikhail_86: Colombia and Panama iirc Colombia isn't since they elected a leftist president. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:11:22 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: So how is that going to work with the Falkland Islands? That's why they'll never be in NATO. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:13:21 AM EDT
[#43]
Seems like the Southern Atlantic is no place for a NATO member.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:18:54 AM EDT
[#44]
why?
argentina located in the North Atlantic now? so for all of meille's cool libertarian sayings, he's nothing but a globo homo stooge doing the bidding London Central banking cabal... what a "great path" to freedom.... 
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:34:37 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedKulak: That's not how North works. That was basically my first thought... "what does the N in NATO stand for again?" 
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:35:28 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: So how is that going to work with the Falkland Islands? Word on the street is that this is part of a much larger plan to bring the Brits to the negotiating table regarding the Malvinas. Can't hurt... Accountant |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:35:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheAvatar9265ft]
[#47]
It would help keep China out.
It would drive Chile to join, which would help even more. It might irritate the brits. But Falklands weren't covered by the charter (neither is Hawaii, technically). |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:54:03 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedKulak: That's not how North works. In all fairness, some are really on the Atlantic either. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:03:19 AM EDT
[#49]
LOL, no.
Aside from their stupid claims to the Falklands, they have ongoing border disputes with Chile. Forging stronger ties within the Americas, and with Argentina in particular, is in the best interests of the US ... but Argentina has no business in NATO, ignoring the not so minor fact that it is wildly outside of charter. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 11:08:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dagger41]
[#50]
Me too. Have a friend in Mendoza and an open invite to visit.
Argentina purchased 24 F-16's from Denmark just a couple of days ago, he is quite excited about it, never seen one IRL. |
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