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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:47:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: Looking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: I listened to the first 25 mins of this today. Nothing in context really made me think the rancor in this thread was justified. UFOs are supernatural and evil and the US government has dealings with this supernatural evil despite what he considers a FACT that UFOs have injured and killed Americans:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDoThe CIA set up Richard Nixon. (Never mind that the reason the plumbers had worked for the CIA was that was how G Gordon Liddy FOUND them.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9LGcaRjy0Can't find a clip of the Hiroshima bit by itself, but here's a critique that contains the clip (I don't know who the critique guy is, this just all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rr2L90kwwLooking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work.  What CONTEXT could those be put in that would make them sound less weird? Go ahead, tell me. Honestly. Is there some context where he's NOT calling anyone who supported the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs evil? Did Joe Rogan just before that ask him "what's the stupidest historical position you can think of?" Does he NOT believe that UFOs are supernatural and evil? Is there some context where he said just the opposite of that? Saying the shit's out of context explains NOTHING unless you provide the context that changes the meaning. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:47:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: Looking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: I listened to the first 25 mins of this today. Nothing in context really made me think the rancor in this thread was justified. UFOs are supernatural and evil and the US government has dealings with this supernatural evil despite what he considers a FACT that UFOs have injured and killed Americans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDoThe CIA set up Richard Nixon. (Never mind that the reason the plumbers had worked for the CIA was that was how G Gordon Liddy FOUND them.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9LGcaRjy0Can't find a clip of the Hiroshima bit by itself, but here's a critique that contains the clip (I don't know who the critique guy is, this just all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rr2L90kwwLooking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Yeah. I even put it in italics to make it stand out. Probably should have bolded it. Nothing Tucker said that I heard so far was worth the arguments in this thread. Someone has had a … visceral … reaction to it and here we are. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:48:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Yeah. I even put it in italics to make it stand out. Probably should have bolded it. Nothing Tucker said that I heard so far was worth the arguments in this thread. Someone has had a … visceral … reaction to it and here we are. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: I listened to the first 25 mins of this today. Nothing in context really made me think the rancor in this thread was justified. UFOs are supernatural and evil and the US government has dealings with this supernatural evil despite what he considers a FACT that UFOs have injured and killed Americans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDoThe CIA set up Richard Nixon. (Never mind that the reason the plumbers had worked for the CIA was that was how G Gordon Liddy FOUND them.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9LGcaRjy0Can't find a clip of the Hiroshima bit by itself, but here's a critique that contains the clip (I don't know who the critique guy is, this just all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rr2L90kwwLooking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Yeah. I even put it in italics to make it stand out. Probably should have bolded it. Nothing Tucker said that I heard so far was worth the arguments in this thread. Someone has had a … visceral … reaction to it and here we are. 2:05 into the episode and my pearls remain unclutched. 
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:52:23 PM EDT
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I think Tucker is a bit retarded.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 9:58:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -daddy: 2:05 into the episode and my pearls remain unclutched. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: I listened to the first 25 mins of this today. Nothing in context really made me think the rancor in this thread was justified. UFOs are supernatural and evil and the US government has dealings with this supernatural evil despite what he considers a FACT that UFOs have injured and killed Americans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDoThe CIA set up Richard Nixon. (Never mind that the reason the plumbers had worked for the CIA was that was how G Gordon Liddy FOUND them.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9LGcaRjy0Can't find a clip of the Hiroshima bit by itself, but here's a critique that contains the clip (I don't know who the critique guy is, this just all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rr2L90kwwLooking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Yeah. I even put it in italics to make it stand out. Probably should have bolded it. Nothing Tucker said that I heard so far was worth the arguments in this thread. Someone has had a … visceral … reaction to it and here we are. 2:05 into the episode and my pearls remain unclutched. No one was clutching pearls, in point of fact, until the Tucker defenders came into the thread clutching theirs at the thought that a few people made casual references to him as a huckster or a lunatic. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:05:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: Looking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: I listened to the first 25 mins of this today. Nothing in context really made me think the rancor in this thread was justified. UFOs are supernatural and evil and the US government has dealings with this supernatural evil despite what he considers a FACT that UFOs have injured and killed Americans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDoThe CIA set up Richard Nixon. (Never mind that the reason the plumbers had worked for the CIA was that was how G Gordon Liddy FOUND them.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9LGcaRjy0Can't find a clip of the Hiroshima bit by itself, but here's a critique that contains the clip (I don't know who the critique guy is, this just all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rr2L90kwwLooking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Okay I just watched the first 35 minutes, which was enough to get to the part about the A-bombs and nothing was taken out of context. You're being disingenuous. He said exactly what I just said he did. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:42:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: No one was clutching pearls, in point of fact, until the Tucker defenders came into the thread clutching theirs at the thought that a few people made casual references to him as a huckster or a lunatic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: I listened to the first 25 mins of this today. Nothing in context really made me think the rancor in this thread was justified. UFOs are supernatural and evil and the US government has dealings with this supernatural evil despite what he considers a FACT that UFOs have injured and killed Americans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDoThe CIA set up Richard Nixon. (Never mind that the reason the plumbers had worked for the CIA was that was how G Gordon Liddy FOUND them.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9LGcaRjy0Can't find a clip of the Hiroshima bit by itself, but here's a critique that contains the clip (I don't know who the critique guy is, this just all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rr2L90kwwLooking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Yeah. I even put it in italics to make it stand out. Probably should have bolded it. Nothing Tucker said that I heard so far was worth the arguments in this thread. Someone has had a … visceral … reaction to it and here we are. 2:05 into the episode and my pearls remain unclutched. No one was clutching pearls, in point of fact, until the Tucker defenders came into the thread clutching theirs at the thought that a few people made casual references to him as a huckster or a lunatic. Writer of wrongs has a new "unique" meaning. You have defined yourself. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:45:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: Writer of wrongs has a new "unique" meaning. You have defined yourself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: I listened to the first 25 mins of this today. Nothing in context really made me think the rancor in this thread was justified. UFOs are supernatural and evil and the US government has dealings with this supernatural evil despite what he considers a FACT that UFOs have injured and killed Americans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDoThe CIA set up Richard Nixon. (Never mind that the reason the plumbers had worked for the CIA was that was how G Gordon Liddy FOUND them.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9LGcaRjy0Can't find a clip of the Hiroshima bit by itself, but here's a critique that contains the clip (I don't know who the critique guy is, this just all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rr2L90kwwLooking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Yeah. I even put it in italics to make it stand out. Probably should have bolded it. Nothing Tucker said that I heard so far was worth the arguments in this thread. Someone has had a … visceral … reaction to it and here we are. 2:05 into the episode and my pearls remain unclutched. No one was clutching pearls, in point of fact, until the Tucker defenders came into the thread clutching theirs at the thought that a few people made casual references to him as a huckster or a lunatic. Writer of wrongs has a new "unique" meaning. You have defined yourself. So, you admit you can't argue the actual point so you're just going to attack me for not agreeing with you? Just want to define you, while we're at it. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 10:56:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taboot: I think Tucker is a bit retarded. A *bit*. That’s pretty generous. I think he’s picked a demographic for his audience will make him feel super smart. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:31:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Okay I just watched the first 35 minutes, which was enough to get to the part about the A-bombs and nothing was taken out of context. You're being disingenuous. He said exactly what I just said he did. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:23:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: So, you admit you can't argue the actual point so you're just going to attack me for not agreeing with you? Just want to define you, while we're at it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: I listened to the first 25 mins of this today. Nothing in context really made me think the rancor in this thread was justified. UFOs are supernatural and evil and the US government has dealings with this supernatural evil despite what he considers a FACT that UFOs have injured and killed Americans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDoThe CIA set up Richard Nixon. (Never mind that the reason the plumbers had worked for the CIA was that was how G Gordon Liddy FOUND them.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9LGcaRjy0Can't find a clip of the Hiroshima bit by itself, but here's a critique that contains the clip (I don't know who the critique guy is, this just all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rr2L90kwwLooking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Yeah. I even put it in italics to make it stand out. Probably should have bolded it. Nothing Tucker said that I heard so far was worth the arguments in this thread. Someone has had a … visceral … reaction to it and here we are. 2:05 into the episode and my pearls remain unclutched. No one was clutching pearls, in point of fact, until the Tucker defenders came into the thread clutching theirs at the thought that a few people made casual references to him as a huckster or a lunatic. Writer of wrongs has a new "unique" meaning. You have defined yourself. So, you admit you can't argue the actual point so you're just going to attack me for not agreeing with you? Just want to define you, while we're at it. For someone that claims to be a writer, you seem to struggle with dialogue. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:52:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: A whole 35 minutes? And we are supposed to take your opinion seriously? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Okay I just watched the first 35 minutes, which was enough to get to the part about the A-bombs and nothing was taken out of context. You're being disingenuous. He said exactly what I just said he did. I got to every single point that I made in the first 35 minutes. You won't deal with the fact that he said exactly what everyone says he did, that there is no larger "context" that can excuse it and you're simply trying to defend the indefensible. You're acting like a child trying to give excuses for why you misbehaved. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:53:09 AM EDT
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50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot.
I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:53:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: For someone that claims to be a writer, you seem to struggle with dialogue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By AlexAdams43: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: I listened to the first 25 mins of this today. Nothing in context really made me think the rancor in this thread was justified. UFOs are supernatural and evil and the US government has dealings with this supernatural evil despite what he considers a FACT that UFOs have injured and killed Americans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDoThe CIA set up Richard Nixon. (Never mind that the reason the plumbers had worked for the CIA was that was how G Gordon Liddy FOUND them.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9LGcaRjy0Can't find a clip of the Hiroshima bit by itself, but here's a critique that contains the clip (I don't know who the critique guy is, this just all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rr2L90kwwLooking for clips out of context seems genuine. Good work. Yeah. I even put it in italics to make it stand out. Probably should have bolded it. Nothing Tucker said that I heard so far was worth the arguments in this thread. Someone has had a … visceral … reaction to it and here we are. 2:05 into the episode and my pearls remain unclutched. No one was clutching pearls, in point of fact, until the Tucker defenders came into the thread clutching theirs at the thought that a few people made casual references to him as a huckster or a lunatic. Writer of wrongs has a new "unique" meaning. You have defined yourself. So, you admit you can't argue the actual point so you're just going to attack me for not agreeing with you? Just want to define you, while we're at it. For someone that claims to be a writer, you seem to struggle with dialogue. I don't have to claim to be anything, buddy. Except more intellectually honest than you. But that's easily provable. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:54:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:59:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: macman37]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:09:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:21:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:46:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: xd341]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: I got to every single point that I made in the first 35 minutes. You won't deal with the fact that he said exactly what everyone says he did, that there is no larger "context" that can excuse it and you're simply trying to defend the indefensible. You're acting like a child trying to give excuses for why you misbehaved.  Still, you made it how far into this thread before actually watching *part* of the topic of discussion? To continue the theme, my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:47:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It's just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else's sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:37:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: macman37]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: No that's a pretty normal maniacal laugh for tucker, seems forced most of the time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It's just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else's sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Gotcha… I have near-zero knowledge of the guy other than he was a stalwart on Fox when he was there (I never saw the show, just ads for him online). The most I ever watched of him was that Benz interview where he was gobsmacked most of the time and thus hardly talked. 
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:37:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:38:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Sincere question: Are you alright man? |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:39:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: I aim to misbehave. Still, you made it how far into this thread before actually watching *part* of the topic of discussion? To continue the theme, my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By RikWriter: I got to every single point that I made in the first 35 minutes. You won't deal with the fact that he said exactly what everyone says he did, that there is no larger "context" that can excuse it and you're simply trying to defend the indefensible. You're acting like a child trying to give excuses for why you misbehaved. Still, you made it how far into this thread before actually watching *part* of the topic of discussion? To continue the theme, my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle. Now you're just lying again. I watched clips from the show and posted links to them earlier. Then you said they were taken out of context so I watched the show from the beginning and you were wrong. Now you can't deal with being wrong so you're trying to muddy the waters. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:39:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Sincere question: Are you alright man? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Sincere question: Are you alright man? Dude now you're just being condescending. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:47:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: macman37]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Dude now you're just being condescending. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Sincere question: Are you alright man? Dude now you're just being condescending. Not at all, I’m honestly being sincere. Usually you’re not like this that I recall. I mean, cantankerous sure, but this thread has brought out a side of you I don’t recall reading previously. Edit: Arf-answer since this is GD to hopefully lighten the mood a bit: “Oh you’ll know when I’m being condescending buddy” 
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:49:10 AM EDT
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Oh my god you guys are still doing this?
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:55:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Not at all, I’m honestly being sincere. Usually you’re not like this that I recall. I mean, cantankerous sure, but this thread has brought out a side of you I don’t recall reading previously. Edit: Arf-answer since this is GD to hopefully lighten the mood a bit: “Oh you’ll know when I’m being condescending buddy” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Sincere question: Are you alright man? Dude now you're just being condescending. Not at all, I’m honestly being sincere. Usually you’re not like this that I recall. I mean, cantankerous sure, but this thread has brought out a side of you I don’t recall reading previously. Edit: Arf-answer since this is GD to hopefully lighten the mood a bit: “Oh you’ll know when I’m being condescending buddy” I don't believe I've said anything negative in this thread that wasn't a direct response to negative things said to me. I was very happy to keep the discussion on topic about Tucker Carlson but when people attack me personally because criticism of their favorite talk show host offends them, then they get the exact thing they gave. I've never been any different than that in 25 years on this forum. You speak to me in a friendly, civil way then the conversation stays friendly and civil. You attack me personally I'll play by those rules instead. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 12:08:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: I don't believe I've said anything negative in this thread that wasn't a direct response to negative things said to me. I was very happy to keep the discussion on topic about Tucker Carlson but when people attack me personally because criticism of their favorite talk show host offends them, then they get the exact thing they gave. I've never been any different than that in 25 years on this forum. You speak to me in a friendly, civil way then the conversation stays friendly and civil. You attack me personally I'll play by those rules instead. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Sincere question: Are you alright man? Dude now you're just being condescending. Not at all, I’m honestly being sincere. Usually you’re not like this that I recall. I mean, cantankerous sure, but this thread has brought out a side of you I don’t recall reading previously. Edit: Arf-answer since this is GD to hopefully lighten the mood a bit: “Oh you’ll know when I’m being condescending buddy” I don't believe I've said anything negative in this thread that wasn't a direct response to negative things said to me. I was very happy to keep the discussion on topic about Tucker Carlson but when people attack me personally because criticism of their favorite talk show host offends them, then they get the exact thing they gave. I've never been any different than that in 25 years on this forum. You speak to me in a friendly, civil way then the conversation stays friendly and civil. You attack me personally I'll play by those rules instead. Fair enough with the exception of you mistaking my discussion for arguing with you. Regardless, cheers. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 12:42:27 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Fair enough with the exception of you mistaking my discussion for arguing with you. Regardless, cheers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Sincere question: Are you alright man? Dude now you're just being condescending. Not at all, I’m honestly being sincere. Usually you’re not like this that I recall. I mean, cantankerous sure, but this thread has brought out a side of you I don’t recall reading previously. Edit: Arf-answer since this is GD to hopefully lighten the mood a bit: “Oh you’ll know when I’m being condescending buddy” I don't believe I've said anything negative in this thread that wasn't a direct response to negative things said to me. I was very happy to keep the discussion on topic about Tucker Carlson but when people attack me personally because criticism of their favorite talk show host offends them, then they get the exact thing they gave. I've never been any different than that in 25 years on this forum. You speak to me in a friendly, civil way then the conversation stays friendly and civil. You attack me personally I'll play by those rules instead. Fair enough with the exception of you mistaking my discussion for arguing with you. Regardless, cheers. Sorry, I didn't mean to misread what you said. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 12:48:33 PM EDT
[#31]
I've never understand the weight people put into people like rush, tucker, stern, etc. THEY'RE ENTERTAINERS. Hard fucking stop. They only thing they represent is their own self interests to whatever *brand* they are going for be it conservatives, liberals, qtards, whatever.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 12:52:36 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Now you're just lying again. I watched clips from the show and posted links to them earlier. Then you said they were taken out of context so I watched the show from the beginning and you were wrong. Now you can't deal with being wrong so you're trying to muddy the waters. I just think that's important "context" for anyone reading this. They did revisit things like dropping the A bomb later in the discussion, more detail was added and nuance used. Didn't change anything all that dramatically, but gave it some more substance. So the first 35 minutes probably doesn't give you the entire picture. It's a long form discussion, obviously you are more of a short form attention span. That's why there are multiple options for consumers. That's a good thing. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 1:01:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BillofRights]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taboot: I think Tucker is a bit retarded. It’s an act. It’s all schtick. He’s just a cynical entertainer who thinks his listeners are retarded. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 1:08:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Sorry, I didn't mean to misread what you said. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Sincere question: Are you alright man? Dude now you're just being condescending. Not at all, I’m honestly being sincere. Usually you’re not like this that I recall. I mean, cantankerous sure, but this thread has brought out a side of you I don’t recall reading previously. Edit: Arf-answer since this is GD to hopefully lighten the mood a bit: “Oh you’ll know when I’m being condescending buddy” I don't believe I've said anything negative in this thread that wasn't a direct response to negative things said to me. I was very happy to keep the discussion on topic about Tucker Carlson but when people attack me personally because criticism of their favorite talk show host offends them, then they get the exact thing they gave. I've never been any different than that in 25 years on this forum. You speak to me in a friendly, civil way then the conversation stays friendly and civil. You attack me personally I'll play by those rules instead. Fair enough with the exception of you mistaking my discussion for arguing with you. Regardless, cheers. Sorry, I didn't mean to misread what you said. Excuse me sir, this is GD. Please never apologize again. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 1:12:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: It’s an act. It’s all schtick. He’s just a cynical entertainer who thinks his listeners are retarded. pretty much... |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 1:18:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: so you *still* haven't watched the entire podcast that you have such strong opinions about....right? I just think that's important "context" for anyone reading this. They did revisit things like dropping the A bomb later in the discussion, more detail was added and nuance used. Didn't change anything all that dramatically, but gave it some more substance. So the first 35 minutes probably doesn't give you the entire picture. It's a long form discussion, obviously you are more of a short form attention span. That's why there are multiple options for consumers. That's a good thing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Now you're just lying again. I watched clips from the show and posted links to them earlier. Then you said they were taken out of context so I watched the show from the beginning and you were wrong. Now you can't deal with being wrong so you're trying to muddy the waters. I just think that's important "context" for anyone reading this. They did revisit things like dropping the A bomb later in the discussion, more detail was added and nuance used. Didn't change anything all that dramatically, but gave it some more substance. So the first 35 minutes probably doesn't give you the entire picture. It's a long form discussion, obviously you are more of a short form attention span. That's why there are multiple options for consumers. That's a good thing. So you admit you can't argue that Tucker believes that shit, right? You just said it changed nothing. Not gonna waste my time on it or you, then, since you refuse to acknowledge your position. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 1:23:24 PM EDT
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I'm just glad everyone is having fun
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Posted: 4/23/2024 1:23:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eurotrash]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crownvic96: I've never understand the weight people put into people like rush, tucker, stern, etc. THEY'RE ENTERTAINERS. Hard fucking stop. They only thing they represent is their own self interests to whatever *brand* they are going for be it conservatives, liberals, qtards, whatever. Charge up your jazzy scooters, get the ramp down over your moat to leave the basement, and go touch grass. I’m torn on whether I’d consider Tucker an entertainer. On one hand, he is a Russian asset who spreads misinformation and sows the seeds of dissent. On the other hand, his target audience doesn’t have the physical mobility, mental facilities, or time left on Earth to rebel in any meaningful way. State actors who rabble-rouse university students are far more dangerous to Western society than Tucker. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 1:35:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: I’m torn on whether I’d consider Tucker an entertainer. On one hand, he is a Russian asset who spreads misinformation and sows the seeds of dissent. On the other hand, his target audience doesn’t have the physical mobility, mental facilities, or time left on Earth to rebel in any meaningful way. State actors who rabble-rouse university students are far more dangerous to Western society than Tucker. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By crownvic96: I've never understand the weight people put into people like rush, tucker, stern, etc. THEY'RE ENTERTAINERS. Hard fucking stop. They only thing they represent is their own self interests to whatever *brand* they are going for be it conservatives, liberals, qtards, whatever. Charge up your jazzy scooters, get the ramp down over your moat to leave the basement, and go touch grass. I’m torn on whether I’d consider Tucker an entertainer. On one hand, he is a Russian asset who spreads misinformation and sows the seeds of dissent. On the other hand, his target audience doesn’t have the physical mobility, mental facilities, or time left on Earth to rebel in any meaningful way. State actors who rabble-rouse university students are far more dangerous to Western society than Tucker. Oh, Tucker's not dangerous. At all. What's dangerous are the people who buy into the same shit that he's peddling uncritically just because it's "questioning the government narrative," as if that has any meaning in and of itself. Those people are destroying the Republican Party and giving us what's going to wind up being a Democratic majority for at least the next 4 years. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 1:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Excuse me sir, this is GD. Please never apologize again. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Sincere question: Are you alright man? Dude now you're just being condescending. Not at all, I’m honestly being sincere. Usually you’re not like this that I recall. I mean, cantankerous sure, but this thread has brought out a side of you I don’t recall reading previously. Edit: Arf-answer since this is GD to hopefully lighten the mood a bit: “Oh you’ll know when I’m being condescending buddy” I don't believe I've said anything negative in this thread that wasn't a direct response to negative things said to me. I was very happy to keep the discussion on topic about Tucker Carlson but when people attack me personally because criticism of their favorite talk show host offends them, then they get the exact thing they gave. I've never been any different than that in 25 years on this forum. You speak to me in a friendly, civil way then the conversation stays friendly and civil. You attack me personally I'll play by those rules instead. Fair enough with the exception of you mistaking my discussion for arguing with you. Regardless, cheers. Sorry, I didn't mean to misread what you said. Excuse me sir, this is GD. Please never apologize again. Dude, I’ve already printed it and have the frame on order to commemorate the occasion. Don’t cheapen it for me. 
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Posted: 4/23/2024 2:19:02 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: I’m torn on whether I’d consider Tucker an entertainer. On one hand, he is a Russian asset who spreads misinformation and sows the seeds of dissent. On the other hand, his target audience doesn’t have the physical mobility, mental facilities, or time left on Earth to rebel in any meaningful way. State actors who rabble-rouse university students are far more dangerous to Western society than Tucker. wtf is wrong with you? |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 2:23:25 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: So you admit you can't argue that Tucker believes that shit, right? You just said it changed nothing. Not gonna waste my time on it or you, then, since you refuse to acknowledge your position. Me admitting that the revisit to the A bomb discussion later in the podcast, didn't dramatically change anything, is just me showing you how to have an impartial discussion. I didn't need to admit that....you didn't see it... But it's honest. Gotta lead by example and all... Go for a walk dude. Pet your dog. You are way too wound up over this. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 2:25:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Unoid: wtf is wrong with you? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Unoid: Originally Posted By eurotrash: I’m torn on whether I’d consider Tucker an entertainer. On one hand, he is a Russian asset who spreads misinformation and sows the seeds of dissent. On the other hand, his target audience doesn’t have the physical mobility, mental facilities, or time left on Earth to rebel in any meaningful way. State actors who rabble-rouse university students are far more dangerous to Western society than Tucker. wtf is wrong with you? I’m not following. Can you use your words? |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 2:26:52 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: The only position I've stated in this thread about tucker is that his opinion on UFO's is "a little different", meaning strange. He went on to expound on it by saying that "supernatural" meant beyond our understanding of nature. Other than that his opinions expressed in the podcast were not dissimilar to GD on any given Tuesday. That's a generalization for sure, obviously not everyone agrees with tucker, but many do so I think it's reasonable. I'm not responsible for what tucker believes, nor do I especially care. I did however actually watch the podcast. Me admitting that the revisit to the A bomb discussion later in the podcast, didn't dramatically change anything, is just me showing you how to have an impartial discussion. I didn't need to admit that....you didn't see it... But it's honest. Gotta lead by example and all... Go for a walk dude. Pet your dog. You are way too wound up over this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By RikWriter: So you admit you can't argue that Tucker believes that shit, right? You just said it changed nothing. Not gonna waste my time on it or you, then, since you refuse to acknowledge your position. Me admitting that the revisit to the A bomb discussion later in the podcast, didn't dramatically change anything, is just me showing you how to have an impartial discussion. I didn't need to admit that....you didn't see it... But it's honest. Gotta lead by example and all... Go for a walk dude. Pet your dog. You are way too wound up over this. “No I’m not” followed by reply after reply.  |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 3:50:36 PM EDT
[#45]
Defending Tucker’s comments regarding dropping the bombs on Japan is a bit weird.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 3:58:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Dude, I’ve already printed it and have the frame on order to commemorate the occasion. Don’t cheapen it for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Hey that's fine, man. If you don't have any problem with him calling the US evil for using the A bombs on Japan, that's totally your call. I find it morally reprehensible and historically illiterate, but you do you. It’s his opinion. You don’t get to dump on me or anyone for simply observing it. If you weren’t so emotionally invested in this argument you’d have heard him walk it back a bit. Rogan also should have jumped in more; they discussed the “if you have a time machine would you go back and strangle baby Hitler in the crib?” Thing, and that’s basically the quandary the US was in for dropping the A-Bombs. It was horrible, but it saved millions of lives. I get that, you get that, but Rogan should have brought that up to him. Again though, this was two guys shooting the shit. The subject matter rambles, as two guys shooting the shit will do. So he stepped on your sacred shibboleth; it’s OK, we all have them. Something he said hit too close to home for you, just admit it and move on. "Too close to home?" No, dude, there's no personal attachment to it other than the fact that I have a historical perspective since my father fought in that war. There's just the knowledge that his position is morally and intellectually wrong. If someone on the other side of the political aisle had said it, everyone here would be tearing them a new asshole for it. Since it was a guy who purports to be on our side, a bunch of people here are like "Oh, it's no big deal, they were just talking." Blows my mind. Right. No personal attachment other than the super personal attachment you go on to describe. c’mon man. I’m trying to build a bridge here, you’re just trying to light them. Stop taking everything anyone responds to you here as a personal affront. That's just an assumption on your part. I'm not taking any of it personally. Sincere question: Are you alright man? Dude now you're just being condescending. Not at all, I’m honestly being sincere. Usually you’re not like this that I recall. I mean, cantankerous sure, but this thread has brought out a side of you I don’t recall reading previously. Edit: Arf-answer since this is GD to hopefully lighten the mood a bit: “Oh you’ll know when I’m being condescending buddy” I don't believe I've said anything negative in this thread that wasn't a direct response to negative things said to me. I was very happy to keep the discussion on topic about Tucker Carlson but when people attack me personally because criticism of their favorite talk show host offends them, then they get the exact thing they gave. I've never been any different than that in 25 years on this forum. You speak to me in a friendly, civil way then the conversation stays friendly and civil. You attack me personally I'll play by those rules instead. Fair enough with the exception of you mistaking my discussion for arguing with you. Regardless, cheers. Sorry, I didn't mean to misread what you said. Excuse me sir, this is GD. Please never apologize again. Dude, I’ve already printed it and have the frame on order to commemorate the occasion. Don’t cheapen it for me. I hope it's banksy art and shreds itself the second time you look at it.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 4:30:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: It’s an act. It’s all schtick. He’s just a cynical entertainer who thinks his listeners are retarded. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By Taboot: I think Tucker is a bit retarded. It’s an act. It’s all schtick. He’s just a cynical entertainer who thinks his listeners are retarded. That isn't it, though it is something adjacent to that: He knows viewers are woefully ignorant, he doesn't think it, he doesn't suspect, he's been inside the machine casting shadows on the walls for decades. We likely couldn't hold together learning the real truth about many things, let alone aliens being real. Tucker touched on it in the interview: So many major public events classified secret immediately and for 25-50+ years (and then still not revealed) We don't know what we don't know, but we're absolutely sure of the things we were told to be sure of. There is no finding your way clear out of the rabbit hole, you only go into fractal rabbit holes to the point you don't even know which was the original anymore.   |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 4:39:49 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: That isn't it, though it is something adjacent to that: He knows viewers are woefully ignorant, he doesn't think it, he doesn't suspect, he's been inside the machine casting shadows on the walls for decades. We likely couldn't hold together learning the real truth about many things, let alone aliens being real. Tucker touched on it in the interview: So many major public events classified secret immediately and for 25-50+ years (and then still not revealed) We don't know what we don't know, but we're absolutely sure of the things we were told to be sure of. There is no finding your way clear out of the rabbit hole, you only go into fractal rabbit holes to the point you don't even know which was the original anymore. https://i.imgur.com/XtKaHT2.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/goqixEn.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By Taboot: I think Tucker is a bit retarded. It’s an act. It’s all schtick. He’s just a cynical entertainer who thinks his listeners are retarded. That isn't it, though it is something adjacent to that: He knows viewers are woefully ignorant, he doesn't think it, he doesn't suspect, he's been inside the machine casting shadows on the walls for decades. We likely couldn't hold together learning the real truth about many things, let alone aliens being real. Tucker touched on it in the interview: So many major public events classified secret immediately and for 25-50+ years (and then still not revealed) We don't know what we don't know, but we're absolutely sure of the things we were told to be sure of. There is no finding your way clear out of the rabbit hole, you only go into fractal rabbit holes to the point you don't even know which was the original anymore. https://i.imgur.com/XtKaHT2.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/goqixEn.jpg No printer |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 6:32:26 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: 50 minutes in. It’s just two guys shooting the shit. Still seems like someone violated someone else’s sacred cow and caused a tempest in a teapot. I did skip their discussion of saunas. Did they sneak something offensive in with that? I have never watched a lot of TC; does he have that maniacal laugh all the time? He seems amped up on something. Tucker has some opinions that hurt some mainstream feelings. The right has plenty of snowflakes too don't you forget it. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:51:09 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: I’m torn on whether I’d consider Tucker an entertainer. On one hand, he is a Russian asset who spreads misinformation and sows the seeds of dissent. On the other hand, his target audience doesn’t have the physical mobility, mental facilities, or time left on Earth to rebel in any meaningful way. State actors who rabble-rouse university students are far more dangerous to Western society than Tucker. kinda agree |
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