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Obedience is not patriotism. Patriotism is love of your country, not of your government.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: She's on Team Russia. That isn't my team. Fuck that retarded, butter faced bitch. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Jetpig: Hate to say it but at least she is on the same team we are. Absolutely correct on her part She's on Team Russia. That isn't my team. Fuck that retarded, butter faced bitch. That's a retarded statement. |
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Obedience is not patriotism. Patriotism is love of your country, not of your government.
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: That’s about the caliber of answer out of you I expected to get. Yeah, I oppose Democracy,,2”why? It becomes a war of all against wall in which everyone loses everything, but hey it’s not like The Founders didn’t understand/accept this and worked to limit them of mob rule, ah? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: Representative governments seem to upset you. Perhaps America is not the right place for you. That’s about the caliber of answer out of you I expected to get. Yeah, I oppose Democracy,,2”why? It becomes a war of all against wall in which everyone loses everything, but hey it’s not like The Founders didn’t understand/accept this and worked to limit them of mob rule, ah? At least I can get basic facts right. You constantly complain about our system and want to undo what the founders set out., but then complain about people wanting to undo our system of government. You are a hypocrite who can't get basic facts correct, and responds with hyperbole. Thinking strategically about US interests abroad is important, and has been so since the Barbary Pirates. |
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Gang rape is democracy in action.
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLonjkUa4AAlR9r?format=jpg&name=large View Quote The Left can't meme |
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Originally Posted By BikerNut: It is astounding. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BikerNut: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: The sheer number of simpletons on this site who equate putting America first with being a "Russian shill" is astounding. It is astounding. You may want to research the history of "America First"--it ain't pretty. Every time America pulls back from leadership and proactive engagement with the rest of the world, bad things happen. You don't need to study history very much to understand that. This MAGA approach to foreign policy is just embarrassing. |
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Originally Posted By CMiller: You may want to research the history of "America First"--it ain't pretty. Every time America pulls back from leadership and proactive engagement with the rest of the world, bad things happen. You don't need to study history very much to understand that. This MAGA approach to foreign policy is just embarrassing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CMiller: Originally Posted By BikerNut: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: The sheer number of simpletons on this site who equate putting America first with being a "Russian shill" is astounding. It is astounding. You may want to research the history of "America First"--it ain't pretty. Every time America pulls back from leadership and proactive engagement with the rest of the world, bad things happen. You don't need to study history very much to understand that. This MAGA approach to foreign policy is just embarrassing. Feedback and join date check out |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
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Originally Posted By Gspointer: I don’t know. I wonder how we will line up with China after depleting so much material. I wonder if China will support our needs when we are at war with them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gspointer: Originally Posted By zaphar: I'm pretty sure bankrupting the country is one of the ongoing FedGov goals, they've been doing it for a while: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_cost_of_the_Iraq_War https://www.brown.edu/news/2021-09-01/costsofwar I wonder how much it will cost Russia to replace its black sea fleet. I don’t know. I wonder how we will line up with China after depleting so much material. I wonder if China will support our needs when we are at war with them. Where will the ground war with China be fought? |
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The very fact of the matter is that the stability of the world occurs by the grace of America.
I'm fine pulling out of that agreement. It doesn't hurt us, it hurts everyone else. We provide international stability. We have the ports, inland waterways and farmland. We have geographical isolation. Fuck everyone but America, and don't make us come over there. (Also stop trying to make us come over there) |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
I'm fine just taking a side and nuking the other side.
Wars should be horrible, brief, and decisive. |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By BikerNut: That's a retarded statement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BikerNut: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Jetpig: Hate to say it but at least she is on the same team we are. Absolutely correct on her part She's on Team Russia. That isn't my team. Fuck that retarded, butter faced bitch. That's a retarded statement. She's repeating Russian propaganda about Ukraine.... line for line. lol. She's a Russian shill. |
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy: Anyone who objects to the United States Treasury being emptied into ukraine is a Russian Agent™ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy: Originally Posted By Silas: Oh wow. I must have missed something. What are the memes tying her to Russia about? Anyone who objects to the United States Treasury being emptied into ukraine is a Russian Agent™ It's already empty, and 33+ trillion in debt. |
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Originally Posted By Gspointer: You should ask the simps that voted for this bill. View Quote Attached File |
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"He had the right hand of the devil strapped tightly to his side."-The Last Cowboy
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: She's repeating Russian propaganda about Ukraine.... line for line. lol. She's a Russian shill. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Originally Posted By BikerNut: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Jetpig: Hate to say it but at least she is on the same team we are. Absolutely correct on her part She's on Team Russia. That isn't my team. Fuck that retarded, butter faced bitch. That's a retarded statement. She's repeating Russian propaganda about Ukraine.... line for line. lol. She's a Russian shill. Just like Trump was and anyone who voted against kickbacks for the big guy Always the same playbook. John Bolten - that you? |
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My paradise lies “in the shadow of my sword”. - Friedrich Nietzsche
"Ideals are peaceful, history is violent" - Brad Pit in Fury 9518 |
Originally Posted By dbrad197: The uke bros have lost me entirely, this whole “if you don’t support hundreds of billions going to Ukraine you suck Putins cock” schtick is so fucking gay. I fucking hate Putin. I also want my government to not spend my country into a failed state status. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dbrad197: Originally Posted By thesilvercord: I see that OP has upset the Ukie bros. The uke bros have lost me entirely, this whole “if you don’t support hundreds of billions going to Ukraine you suck Putins cock” schtick is so fucking gay. I fucking hate Putin. I also want my government to not spend my country into a failed state status. I like them even less than either side of that conflict. Partly because without people like them it would be over a year or more ago. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I'm fine just taking a side and nuking the other side. Wars should be horrible, brief, and decisive. View Quote Interestingly, had Ukraine adopted a “Ukraine first” position back in the 90s and not followed “leadership and proactive engagement” of the US this war wouldn’t be happening; or anyway it would’ve been over long ago and we’d all be discussing when Kiev and Moscow would be habitable again |
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-Women should always wear tight clothes and men should carry powerful handguns
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: She's repeating Russian propaganda about Ukraine.... line for line. lol. She's a Russian shill. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Originally Posted By BikerNut: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Jetpig: Hate to say it but at least she is on the same team we are. Absolutely correct on her part She's on Team Russia. That isn't my team. Fuck that retarded, butter faced bitch. That's a retarded statement. She's repeating Russian propaganda about Ukraine.... line for line. lol. She's a Russian shill. Word for word? Site. |
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-Women should always wear tight clothes and men should carry powerful handguns
-Eamus Brandonus |
The democrats have to keep pumping more and more and more money into Ukraine. It's where they are laundering all of their ill-gotten wealth. There's no telling how much cash is passing through that country getting squeaky clean. I wonder how much of that money is going to come back as funds for the DNC war chest. Likely quite a bit.
The democrat-communists tend to get their panties all in a bunch when they get called out on it. As we're seeing. The basic rule for leftists is clearly in play. They always project their own crimes onto their opponents. It's their confession, their tell. Never forget that. |
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Originally Posted By Prezboi44: Team Russia (and China) are BOTH working to bankrupt the U.S. - you know... like the Soviets in Afghanistan! So this was a good vote and a good bill with lots of great value built in!!! Because we need to hit a $2,000 drone with a $2,000,000 missile. Woohoo for America! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Prezboi44: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: She's on Team Russia. That isn't my team. Fuck that retarded, butter faced bitch. Team Russia (and China) are BOTH working to bankrupt the U.S. - you know... like the Soviets in Afghanistan! So this was a good vote and a good bill with lots of great value built in!!! Because we need to hit a $2,000 drone with a $2,000,000 missile. Woohoo for America! That goes both ways you know. Russian armor and naval assets aren't cheap to replace when Ukraine drones them. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The very fact of the matter is that the stability of the world occurs by the grace of America. I'm fine pulling out of that agreement. It doesn't hurt us, it hurts everyone else. We provide international stability. We have the ports, inland waterways and farmland. We have geographical isolation. Fuck everyone but America, and don't make us come over there. (Also stop trying to make us come over there) View Quote Did you know that Europe is our biggest trading partner? Anything that creates instability there is bad for our economy. |
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Originally Posted By ThreadKiller: The thing is, I wouldn't even mind if they sent the Ukraine aide after the border was handled. Johnson committed to that, and he betrayed us. Now we have absolutely ZERO leverage. But I am also not naive enough to believe that this aid is going to change the war significantly. And I am perfectly fine sacrificing Ukraine to save our own country. As any patriotic person should. All this talk about Russia rolling over Europe, they have gotten bogged down in Ukraine... You can't say they are the biggest threat yet constantly talk about how much their military sucks. It's either one or the other, not buying the BS propaganda anymore... That shit is for the simps. View Quote Attached File |
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"He had the right hand of the devil strapped tightly to his side."-The Last Cowboy
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Originally Posted By TheLASwamp: The democrats have to keep pumping more and more and more money into Ukraine. It's where they are laundering all of their ill-gotten wealth. There's no telling how much cash is passing through that country getting squeaky clean. I wonder how much of that money is going to come back as funds for the DNC war chest. Likely quite a bit. The democrat-communists tend to get their panties all in a bunch when they get called out on it. As we're seeing. The basic rule for leftists is clearly in play. They always project their own crimes onto their opponents. It's their confession, their tell. Never forget that. View Quote If you haven’t noticed, there a a lot of republicans that fit here too. All that sweet American aide can’t be going to the foreigners, our protected leaders need their cut. They can’t work for free. |
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Originally Posted By SBR300BLK: I like them even less than either side of that conflict. Partly because without people like them it would be over a year or more ago. View Quote Seeing them cheer on deaths by the hundreds of thousands is disturbing as fuck. I respect the hell out of the Ukrainians who stood up and defended their country, I hate knowing that they die by the thousands every month, and can’t justify spending this country into oblivion to prolong the conflict. I know a ton of that money stays here in the states, that doesn’t magically make it more affordable. |
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"Something really awesome... In Latin." - I-M-A-WMD
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Originally Posted By CMiller: Did you know that Europe is our biggest trading partner? Anything that creates instability there is bad for our economy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CMiller: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The very fact of the matter is that the stability of the world occurs by the grace of America. I'm fine pulling out of that agreement. It doesn't hurt us, it hurts everyone else. We provide international stability. We have the ports, inland waterways and farmland. We have geographical isolation. Fuck everyone but America, and don't make us come over there. (Also stop trying to make us come over there) Did you know that Europe is our biggest trading partner? Anything that creates instability there is bad for our economy. Oh no muh biggest partner I'm pretty sure we can create whatever we want here. So the real question is where do we outsource trash. That question is not answered by throwing money at trash |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
View Quote Rand gets it. Fuck Congress, Fuck the Federal Government and when they push us into WWIII I’ll have my family and myself sitting in Central or South America rather than participate is said fuckery. You’re being drawn into a three pronged war you cannot staff and you cannot win. We were defeated by third worlders in slides. If you think the US can fight China, Iran and its proxies and Russia at the same time you’re living in a fantasy land. |
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George Mason “The Cavalier’s” Great-Grandson
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I love these threads where all the Biden dick suckers and commies out themselves.
She isn't wrong in what she said. The swamp is putting our money and other countries above America. FUCK UKRAINE! I don't give a shit if Russia nukes them. I am only concerned with America and securing our borders. Ukraine has always been a hot mess of corruption, nothing has changed, fuck'em. |
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Traveled the world, currently living in Indian Territory
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Originally Posted By USCG_CPO: I love these threads where all the Biden dick suckers and commies out themselves. She isn't wrong in what she said. The swamp is putting our money and other countries above America. FUCK UKRAINE! I don't give a shit if Russia nukes them. I am only concerned with America and securing our borders. Ukraine has always been a hot mess of corruption, nothing has changed, fuck'em. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By zaphar: That goes both ways you know. Russian armor and naval assets aren't cheap to replace when Ukraine drones them. View Quote We have something to lose. They don't. Life in Russia is already shit hole status. You don't get that, do you? Did you catch how well the ruble recovered afterthe administration was running its mouth about how we we're affecting the Russian economy? Check the USD to RUB exchange rates over the last couple of years. If you want to push back on Russia, you have to be smart about doing it. Dropping hundreds of millions every friggin day in helicopter money for better power point charts from the pentagon isn't the way. Oh, and BTW, did the Republicans get what they wanted in the end (better border control)? No, they fucking didn't. In fact, they don't get anything pushing us back to the center now, do they? Just more individual freedom taken by the uniparty in favor of predetermined piss-poor outcomes for the masses. |
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Originally Posted By USCG_CPO: I love these threads where all the Biden dick suckers and commies out themselves. She isn't wrong in what she said. The swamp is putting our money and other countries above America. FUCK UKRAINE! I don't give a shit if Russia nukes them. I am only concerned with America and securing our borders. Ukraine has always been a hot mess of corruption, nothing has changed, fuck'em. View Quote Two things: Just want American money to be spent in America. If the war is that important, then send American people funded by point 1 to do it. |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
"Something really awesome... In Latin." - I-M-A-WMD
Rest in Peace Brother. |
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Originally Posted By Gspointer: It seems people feel very strongly about giving money to Ukraine. Instead of using tax dollars, they should just take donations. I’m sure there would be a surplus of money then. View Quote National defense and foreign policy shouldn’t be run on donations. There wasn’t a big hubbub or cries over the children when the founders sent foreign aid to south America. |
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Originally Posted By fadedsun: National defense and foreign policy shouldn’t be run on donations. There wasn’t a big hubbub or cries over the children when the founders sent foreign aid to south America. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Gspointer: It seems people feel very strongly about giving money to Ukraine. Instead of using tax dollars, they should just take donations. I’m sure there would be a surplus of money then. National defense and foreign policy shouldn’t be run on donations. There wasn’t a big hubbub or cries over the children when the founders sent foreign aid to south America. Sir. Please. https://fee.org/resources/not-your-to-give/ Click To View Spoiler One day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Davy Crockett arose:
“Mr. Speaker–I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him. Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as a charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week’s pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks.” He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and, instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as, no doubt, it would, but for that speech, it received but few votes, and, of course, was lost. Later, when asked by a friend why he had opposed the appropriation, Crockett gave this explanation: “Several years ago I was one evening standing on the steps of the Capitol with some other members of Congress, when our attention was attracted by a great light over in Georgetown . It was evidently a large fire. We jumped into a hack and drove over as fast as we could. In spite of all that could be done, many houses were burned and many families made homeless, and, besides, some of them had lost all but the clothes they had on. The weather was very cold, and when I saw so many women and children suffering, I felt that something ought to be done for them. The next morning a bill was introduced appropriating $20,000 for their relief. We put aside all other business and rushed it through as soon as it could be done. “The next summer, when it began to be time to think about the election, I concluded I would take a scout around among the boys of my district. I had no opposition there, but, as the election was some time off, I did not know what might turn up. When riding one day in a part of my district in which I was more of a stranger than any other, I saw a man in a field plowing and coming toward the road. I gauged my gait so that we should meet as he came to the fence. As he came up, I spoke to the man. He replied politely, but, as I thought, rather coldly. “I began: ‘Well, friend, I am one of those unfortunate beings called candidates, and–’ “‘Yes, I know you; you are Colonel Crockett, I have seen you once before, and voted for you the last time you were elected. I suppose you are out electioneering now, but you had better not waste your time or mine. I shall not vote for you again.’ “This was a sockdolager . . . I begged him to tell me what was the matter. “‘Well, Colonel, it is hardly worth-while to waste time or words upon it. I do not see how it can be mended, but you gave a vote last winter which shows that either you have not capacity to understand the Constitution, or that you are wanting in the honesty and firmness to be guided by it. In either case you are not the man to represent me. But I beg your pardon for expressing it in that way. I did not intend to avail myself of the privilege of the constituent to speak plainly to a candidate for the purpose of insulting or wounding you. I intend by it only to say that your understanding of the Constitution is very different from mine; and I will say to you what, but for my rudeness, I should not have said, that I believe you to be honest. . . . But an understanding of the Constitution different from mine I cannot overlook, because the Constitution, to be worth anything, must be held sacred, and rigidly observed in all its provisions. The man who wields power and misinterprets it is the more dangerous the more honest he is.’ “‘I admit the truth of all you say, but there must be some mistake about it, for I do not remember that I gave any vote last winter upon any constitutional question.’ “‘No, Colonel, there’s no mistake. Though I live here in the backwoods and seldom go from home, I take the papers from Washington and read very carefully all the proceedings of Congress. My papers say that last winter you voted for a bill to appropriate $20,000 to some sufferers by a fire in Georgetown . Is that true?’ “‘Well, my friend; I may as well own up. You have got me there. But certainly nobody will complain that a great and rich country like ours should give the insignificant sum of $20,000 to relieve its suffering women and children, particularly with a full and overflowing Treasury, and I am sure, if you had been there, you would have done just as I did.’ “‘It is not the amount, Colonel, that I complain of; it is the principle. In the first place, the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes. But that has nothing to do with the question. The power of collecting and disbursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be intrusted to man, particularly under our system of collecting revenue by a tariff, which reaches every man in the country, no matter how poor he may be, and the poorer he is the more he pays in proportion to his means. What is worse, it presses upon him without his knowledge where the weight centers, for there is not a man in the United States who can ever guess how much he pays to the government. So you see, that while you are contributing to relieve one, you are drawing it from thousands who are even worse off than he. If you had the right to give anything, the amount was simply a matter of discretion with you, and you had as much right to give $20,000,000 as $20,000. If you have the right to give to one, you have the right to give to all; and, as the Constitution neither defines charity nor stipulates the amount, you are at liberty to give to any and everything which you may believe, or profess to believe, is a charity, and to any amount you may think proper. You will very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud and corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other. No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity. Individual members may give as much of their own money as they please, but they have no right to touch a dollar of the public money for that purpose. If twice as many houses had been burned in this county as in Georgetown , neither you nor any other member of Congress would have thought of appropriating a dollar for our relief. There are about two hundred and forty members of Congress. If they had shown their sympathy for the sufferers by contributing each one week’s pay, it would have made over $13,000. There are plenty of wealthy men in and around Washington who could have given $20,000 without depriving themselves of even a luxury of life. The congressmen chose to keep their own money, which, if reports be true, some of them spend not very creditably; and the people about Washington , no doubt, applauded you for relieving them from the necessity of giving by giving what was not yours to give. The people have delegated to Congress, by the Constitution, the power to do certain things. To do these, it is authorized to collect and pay moneys, and for nothing else. Everything beyond this is usurpation, and a violation of the Constitution. “‘So you see, Colonel, you have violated the Constitution in what I consider a vital point. It is a precedent fraught with danger to the country, for when Congress once begins to stretch its power beyond the limits of the Constitution, there is no limit to it, and no security for the people. I have no doubt you acted honestly, but that does not make it any better, except as far as you are personally concerned, and you see that I cannot vote for you.’ “I tell you I felt streaked. I saw if I should have opposition, and this man should go to talking, he would set others to talking, and in that district I was a gone fawn-skin. I could not answer him, and the fact is, I was so fully convinced that he was right, I did not want to. But I must satisfy him, and I said to him: “‘Well, my friend, you hit the nail upon the head when you said I had not sense enough to understand the Constitution. I intended to be guided by it, and thought I had studied it fully. I have heard many speeches in Congress about the powers of Congress, but what you have said here at your plow has got more hard, sound sense in it than all the fine speeches I ever heard. If I had ever taken the view of it that you have, I would have put my head into the fire before I would have given that vote; and if you will forgive me and vote for me again, if I ever vote for another unconstitutional law I wish I may be shot.’ “He laughingly replied: ‘Yes, Colonel, you have sworn to that once before, but I will trust you again upon one condition. You say that you are convinced that your vote was wrong. Your acknowledgment of it will do more good than beating you for it. If, as you go around the district, you will tell people about this vote, and that you are satisfied it was wrong, I will not only vote for you, but will do what I can to keep down opposition, and, perhaps, I may exert some little influence in that way.’ “‘If I don’t,’ said I, ‘I wish I may be shot; and to convince you that I am in earnest in what I say I will come back this way in a week or ten days, and if you will get up a gathering of the people, I will make a speech to them. Get up a barbecue, and I will pay for it.’ “‘No, Colonel, we are not rich people in this section, but we have plenty of provisions to contribute for a barbecue, and some to spare for those who have none. The push of crops will be over in a few days, and we can then afford a day for a barbecue. This is Thursday; I will see to getting it up on Saturday week. Come to my house on Friday, and we will go together, and I promise you a very respectable crowd to see and hear you.’ “‘Well, I will be here. But one thing more before I say good-by. I must know your name.’ “‘My name is Bunce.’ “‘Not Horatio Bunce?’ “‘Yes.’ “‘Well, Mr. Bunce, I never saw you before, though you say you have seen me, but I know you very well. I am glad I have met you, and very proud that I may hope to have you for my friend.’ “It was one of the luckiest hits of my life that I met him. He mingled but little with the public, but was widely known for his remarkable intelligence and incorruptible integrity, and for a heart brimful and running over with kindness and benevolence, which showed themselves not only in words but in acts. He was the oracle of the whole country around him, and his fame had extended far beyond the circle of his immediate acquaintance. Though I had never met him before, I had heard much of him, and but for this meeting it is very likely I should have had opposition, and had been beaten. One thing is very certain, no man could now stand up in that district under such a vote. “At the appointed time I was at his house, having told our conversation to every crowd I had met, and to every man I stayed all night with, and I found that it gave the people an interest and a confidence in me stronger than I had every seen manifested before. “Though I was considerably fatigued when I reached his house, and, under ordinary circumstances, should have gone early to bed, I kept him up until midnight, talking about the principles and affairs of government, and got more real, true knowledge of them than I had got all my life before. “I have known and seen much of him since, for I respect him–no, that is not the word–I reverence and love him more than any living man, and I go to see him two or three times every year; and I will tell you, sir, if every one who professes to be a Christian lived and acted and enjoyed it as he does, the religion of Christ would take the world by storm. “But to return to my story. The next morning we went to the barbecue, and, to my surprise, found about a thousand men there. I met a good many whom I had not known before, and they and my friend introduced me around until I had got pretty well acquainted–at least, they all knew me. “In due time notice was given that I would speak to them. They gathered up around a stand that had been erected. I opened my speech by saying: “‘Fellow-citizens–I present myself before you today feeling like a new man. My eyes have lately been opened to truths which ignorance or prejudice, or both, had heretofore hidden from my view. I feel that I can today offer you the ability to render you more valuable service than I have ever been able to render before. I am here today more for the purpose of acknowledging my error than to seek your votes. That I should make this acknowledgment is due to myself as well as to you. Whether you will vote for me is a matter for your consideration only.’ “I went on to tell them about the fire and my vote for the appropriation and then told them why I was satisfied it was wrong. I closed by saying: “‘And now, fellow-citizens, it remains only for me to tell you that the most of the speech you have listened to with so much interest was simply a repetition of the arguments by which your neighbor, Mr. Bunce, convinced me of my error. “‘It is the best speech I ever made in my life, but he is entitled to the credit for it. And now I hope he is satisfied with his convert and that he will get up here and tell you so.’ “He came upon the stand and said: “‘Fellow-citizens–It affords me great pleasure to comply with the request of Colonel Crockett. I have always considered him a thoroughly honest man, and I am satisfied that he will faithfully perform all that he has promised you today.’ “He went down, and there went up from that crowd such a shout for Davy Crockett as his name never called forth before. “I am not much given to tears, but I was taken with a choking then and felt some big drops rolling down my cheeks. And I tell you now that the remembrance of those few words spoken by such a man, and the honest, hearty shout they produced, is worth more to me than all the honors I have received and all the reputation I have ever made, or ever shall make, as a member of Congress. “Now, sir,” concluded Crockett, “you know why I made that speech yesterday. “There is one thing now to which I will call your attention. You remember that I proposed to give a week’s pay. There are in that House many very wealthy men–men who think nothing of spending a week’s pay, or a dozen of them, for a dinner or a wine party when they have something to accomplish by it. Some of those same men made beautiful speeches upon the great debt of gratitude which the country owed the deceased–a debt which could not be paid by money–and the insignificance and worthlessness of money, particularly so insignificant a sum as $10,000, when weighted against the honor of the nation. Yet not one of them responded to my proposition. Money with them is nothing but trash when it is to come out of the people. But it is the one great thing for which most of them are striving, and many of them sacrifice honor, integrity, and justice to obtain it.” Holders of political office are but reflections of the dominant leadership–good or bad–among the electorate. Horatio Bunce is a striking example of responsible citizenship. Were his kind to multiply, we would see many new faces in public office; or, as in the case of Davy Crockett, a new Crockett. For either the new faces or the new Crocketts, we must look to the Horatio in ourselves! |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Shit how do I make that big quote less obnoxious to the eye
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By fadedsun: National defense and foreign policy shouldn't be run on donations. There wasn't a big hubbub or cries over the children when the founders sent foreign aid to south America. View Quote When politicians realize they can vote themselves the power to help themselves to the largess of the national treasury, the country is doomed. We're watching that axiom play out in real time. They have bled it dry and now continue to hand out trillions in cash the country doesn't even have to spend on itself, let alone on pet projects they can use to further enrich themselves off of chronic graft, corruption, and outright theft. It's amazing how well it's tolerated by the very people who are being bled dry who are being given the tab to pay for it all. People who will never see one thin penny of benefit for any of their own money being spent in their name. Clown world, indeed. Honk. |
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Whiskers pls, my thumb.
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Originally Posted By phatmax: @jarheadpatriot Not being hyperbolic, it is a symptom of the dissolution of the foundational beliefs of this country. Using proxy wars to bring ideological war to your own countrymen, and especially those ostensibly on your own side, has long been the goal of forces wishing the destruction of America. To elevate "victory" in what amounts to a backwater battle between other nations over the immediate needs of your own homeland, which is in the midst of its own battles against crime, invasion, a broken justice system and tyrannical elitist leadership ignoring the rule of law is simply madness and playing into the hands of those who wish liberty for citizens to expire. View Quote So what your saying is…Being concerned with the wellbeing of your country is literally White Supremacy, Nazism, and just plain mean/s |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
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Originally Posted By CMiller: I'm pretty sure Ronald Reagan (and every other president other than Trump) is on my side for this one. I'm quite comfortable with that. History will judge people like her very harshly. View Quote And every President from Washington to Hoover (with exception of Wilson, may he rest in shit) is on the RIGHT side, ie What’s best for Americans side. If your side wins there will not be a country left. |
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