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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:11:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Palooka84: Perhaps Putin isn't as bloodthirsty as you Uke boys. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Palooka84: Perhaps Putin isn't as bloodthirsty as you Uke boys. The murder and torture of an American citizen by his soldiers says otherwise. So does the wholesale slaughter of Russian men for an old man’s ego. Originally Posted By 20229mm: Ahh fadedsun. Always willing to put our money where his mouth is. I went down to the border while a lot of people here simply cry about it. I’ve been sending a lot of my own personally acquired gear to Ukrainian soldiers. Can’t say I’m not doing my part. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:12:39 AM EDT
[#2]
Dupe...
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:13:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pdb5906: Remember when they told us $8B was too much for a wall? Imagine if our politicians worked as hard to defend America's borders. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:14:42 AM EDT
[#4]
Ahh fadedsun.
Always willing to put our money where his mouth is. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:18:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolverine1776: But don't you see? They were never going to fund the border, so obviously we must send money overseas Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolverine1776: Originally Posted By pdb5906: Remember when they told us $8B was too much for a wall? Imagine if our politicians worked as hard to defend America's borders. Trump opposed it because he wants to campaign on it, can't have them fixing the border without Trump. Never mind that he never moved a border bill in four years as President, including two with Republican control of both houses. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:30:07 AM EDT
[#6]
How long before that little grifter has his hand out for more American money again? I give it a month.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:32:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#7]
The only conditions I would support Ukraine funding.
Modern nukes placed in blast radius of all the grain production fields and Cities. Nukes placed just behind all the current forward line of troops on the border. Then I would explain to Russia they either leave or know that as soon as they advance I will detonate all nukes on the border. If they attack the border I detonate the nukes. If they defeat our military we evac who we can into Poland then detonate all the nukes. Russia will be left with a nuke wasteland and the smoldering radiation for decades. The grain production in Ukraine will be over for 100yrs. I would leave such a smoldering disaster it would bankrupt Russia trying to recover. Even the oil pipelines will be radioactive and any oil passing through them worthless. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:35:08 AM EDT
[#8]
Fuck Ukraine.
If you, the Gun Forum member, eats this up so much, then go over there and fight. Fight "them goddamn Russians". Just like you fantasize about. It's time. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:38:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: The murder and torture of an American citizen by his soldiers says otherwise. So does the wholesale slaughter of Russian men for an old man’s ego. I went down to the border while a lot of people here simply cry about it. I’ve been sending a lot of my own personally acquired gear to Ukrainian soldiers. Can’t say I’m not doing my part. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Palooka84: Perhaps Putin isn't as bloodthirsty as you Uke boys. The murder and torture of an American citizen by his soldiers says otherwise. So does the wholesale slaughter of Russian men for an old man’s ego. Originally Posted By 20229mm: Ahh fadedsun. Always willing to put our money where his mouth is. I went down to the border while a lot of people here simply cry about it. I’ve been sending a lot of my own personally acquired gear to Ukrainian soldiers. Can’t say I’m not doing my part. You went to the border to collect OT, that’s it. And you haven’t sacrificed anything to help your fellow Uketard countrymen. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:41:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: The only conditions I would support Ukraine funding. Modern nukes placed in blast radius of all the grain production fields and Cities. Nukes placed just behind all the current forward line of troops on the border. Then I would explain to Russia they either leave or know that as soon as they advance I will detonate all nukes on the border. If they attack the border I detonate the nukes. If they defeat our military we evac who we can into Poland then detonate all the nukes. Russia will be left with a nuke wasteland and the smoldering radiation for decades. The grain production in Ukraine will be over for 100yrs. I would leave such a smoldering disaster it would bankrupt Russia trying to recover. Even the oil pipelines will be radioactive and any oil passing through them worthless. I’d support Uke funding if we got something more than mail order brides out of the deal. Some sweet commodity deals or something. But all we’re getting is more debt and one of these days hundreds of billions of rebuilding. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:42:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mercworx]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VaultDweller: Taiwan, sure. Because we desperately need microchips and semiconductors that for some reason we're unable or unwilling to make here Ukraine? five years ago 90% of americans couldnt find it on the map. Now? 97% of americans couldnt find it on a map. We had no ties to it. They arent nato members. Hell theyre not even EU members. The most that anyone can say in support of the ukeleles is 'russia bad' Well no shit. russia has been 'bad' for the entirety of its existence. thats nothing new, but ever since the berlin wall came down, theyre not our problem Isreal? the entire reason that a billion goat rapists hate us is our undying support of the absolute worst allies in existence. Britain fucked up in 1948 and it shouldnt be our problem to fix their mess our debt is a third of the global gdp, and were completely foregoing our own national defense to prop up other countries that literally dont matter to us. Sovereign countries that are unable to stand on their own deserve to be former countries. Maybe the ukes shouldnt have given russia their nukes 20 years ago  No, they were (and are still) coming for you sooner or later. Israel just absorbs most of the current jihad. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:44:16 AM EDT
[#12]
Fuck Ukraine, Fuck Russia, Fuck Biden and Fuck Johnson.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:48:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: The murder and torture of an American citizen by his soldiers says otherwise. Like when Zelenskyy strangled Gonz Lira to death? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 12:49:22 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rmac7748: Fuck Ukraine, Fuck Russia, Fuck Biden and Fuck Johnson. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 1:19:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KaerMorhenResident]
[#15]
Taiwan is one of the wealthiest nations in the world per capita ranking 21st in the world and so is Israel ranking 13th in the world, they don't need our money.
Ukraine will not benefit from the majority of this allocation in time to repel the anticipated Russian 2024 summer offensive. This funding is not enough and in and of itself no money is enough to facilitate Ukraine's victory in its war with Russia, which Ukraine still defines as the repatriation of its territory as set in 1991 (including Crimea). I've said it a million times, you can't build one of the largest professional conventional militaries on earth in a matter of years no matter how much money you throw at the problem. Let's be honest, this entire affair was designed to line the pockets of donors prior to the Fall election. That's it, nothing deeper than just good old fashioned corruption going on here. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 1:31:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: The murder and torture of an American citizen by his soldiers says otherwise. So does the wholesale slaughter of Russian men for an old man's ego. I went down to the border while a lot of people here simply cry about it. I've been sending a lot of my own personally acquired gear to Ukrainian soldiers. Can't say I'm not doing my part. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Palooka84: Perhaps Putin isn't as bloodthirsty as you Uke boys. The murder and torture of an American citizen by his soldiers says otherwise. So does the wholesale slaughter of Russian men for an old man's ego. Originally Posted By 20229mm: Ahh fadedsun. Always willing to put our money where his mouth is. I went down to the border while a lot of people here simply cry about it. I've been sending a lot of my own personally acquired gear to Ukrainian soldiers. Can't say I'm not doing my part. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 1:41:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolverine1776: How many bottles of water did you hand out to people crossing the border? You're a god damned hero! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolverine1776: How many bottles of water did you hand out to people crossing the border? You're a god damned hero! Can’t recall handing any water out. If someone asked I would have because the person is in custody and we are responsible for their well being once arrested. I had cases in the back of my truck. It costs zero money to me. Originally Posted By Subpar: Like when Zelenskyy strangled Gonz Lira to death? But but but what about XXXXXX Zelenskyy personally came down and killed saint Gonzalo Nice deflection.  Gonzalo was overweight, had numerous health conditions, smoked 2 packs a day, and Had a serious health condition. Originally Posted By Techsan02: You went to the border to collect OT, that’s it. And you haven’t sacrificed anything to help your fellow Uketard countrymen. Never got overtime. I was salaried. This was very apparent when the command staff at Kelly decided to run folks into the ground. I’ve done what I can to help. Sending boxes upon boxes of equipment is what I was able to do. Meanwhile…what have you done about the border? Abbot will pay you 7k a month and 8k after one year to go there. They are hiring. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 2:50:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: I’ll chip in to send you over there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: Originally Posted By fadedsun: It took a little longer for Moscow mike to realize if Ukraine falls his son will be dodging Russian missiles I’ll chip in to send you over there. Pretty much my feeling on this. Can't wait to see him volunteer to pay for this war either. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 2:54:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: You can be demanding your congressmen send nato troops to Ukraine. No mention of the trillions in domestic spending? Trillions for domestic spending, too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By HKocher: I’ll chip in to send you over there. You can be demanding your congressmen send nato troops to Ukraine. Originally Posted By JLAudio: Throwing good money after bad. The Zelensky regime will be back in a month or two begging for another $100 billion, meanwhile Americans become poorer. No mention of the trillions in domestic spending? Originally Posted By R0N: USS Boxer issues. Billions for foreign aid, but we cannot resource properly to get the Flag ship for the only ARG/MEU going out, to actually to go out. Trillions for domestic spending, too. So when are you going to pay for this war you support so much? You lost your mind if you think it's the US Taxpayer. I fully support sending anyone to fight in Ukraine who thinks my tax dollars should be funding it. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:12:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:14:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: grambosc]
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Just think of how far that funding could have gone to pay for implementing house to house firearm confiscations, or preventing states like Texas from defending the border.
Even if every dollar was completely pissed away, it would be better than allowing it to be used for the above. Spending it to kill Russian shitbag commies is a bonus. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:32:10 AM EDT
[#22]
Instead of trying to de-escalate it, escalate it more.
Oh well, I guess more Ukrainian kids get killed and more Ukrainian women get raped. The horrors of War. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:42:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Robertpistol]
[#23]
Too Summarize the OP:
America Last!! Woooo!!! Globalist issues are the priority and nothing else! It's awesome having 3/4ths of the House and most of the Senate and the Senile Globalist puppet named Joe Biden pissing and shitting all over us while siphoning our tax dollars abroad. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:47:38 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: Just think of how far that funding could have gone to pay for implementing house to house firearm confiscations, or preventing states like Texas from defending the border. Even if every dollar was completely pissed away, it would be better than allowing it to be used for the above. Spending it to kill Russian shitbag commies is a bonus. It could have also built a fully featured border wall. And funded deportations of millions of illegal leaches in the country. It could have built factories to employ Americans, and to strengthen our own domestic production at the same time....etc. etc. Prioritizing foreign nations - at this time it is THREE [Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine] over our own country - is not normal. It is proof that the government is corrupt and owned by Globalist interests. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 4:58:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vegitan: When are they scheduled to repay us? Repay us with WW3? |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:28:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Arty8: Repay us with WW3? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Arty8: Originally Posted By Vegitan: When are they scheduled to repay us? Repay us with WW3? Anyone who thinks UKR will be on our side if/when that happens is insane. Ukebois will be like, "I stand with Z" |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:35:51 AM EDT
[#27]
The House on Saturday passed a set of foreign aid bills that would send $61 billion to Ukraine, $26 billion to Israel, and $8 billion to the Indo-Pacific region.
Nothing for the U.S border |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:45:57 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Robertpistol: It could have also built a fully featured border wall. And funded deportations of millions of illegal leaches in the country. It could have built factories to employ Americans, and to strengthen our own domestic production at the same time....etc. etc. Prioritizing foreign nations - at this time it is THREE [Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine] over our own country - is not normal. It is proof that the government is corrupt and owned by Globalist interests. The uniparty is a curious blend of communism and fascism. They want to destroy us, but they want to use our own money to do it. It's bizarre how many people think that's a wonderful idea. People who should know better. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:48:48 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc: The House on Saturday passed a set of foreign aid bills that would send $61 billion to Ukraine, $26 billion to Israel, and $8 billion to the Indo-Pacific region. Nothing for the U.S border |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:49:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:56:59 AM EDT
[#31]
The $kickback$ machine in the swamp is well oiled. Fuckers.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:06:03 AM EDT
[#32]
Hopefully, the debate over next foreign welfare bill will be even more rancorous and time consuming.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:08:13 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Taiwan is one of the wealthiest nations in the world per capita ranking 21st in the world and so is Israel ranking 13th in the world, they don't need our money. Ukraine will not benefit from the majority of this allocation in time to repel the anticipated Russian 2024 summer offensive. This funding is not enough and in and of itself no money is enough to facilitate Ukraine's victory in its war with Russia, which Ukraine still defines as the repatriation of its territory as set in 1991 (including Crimea). I've said it a million times, you can't build one of the largest professional conventional militaries on earth in a matter of years no matter how much money you throw at the problem. Let's be honest, this entire affair was designed to line the pockets of donors prior to the Fall election. That's it, nothing deeper than just good old fashioned corruption going on here. The goal now for Ukraine is to stall for time until next January, if Trump wins a peace deal will be made, and Ukraine loses any Russian held territory in exchange for NATO membership. They need to minimize the amount that Russia takes between now and then. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:09:10 AM EDT
[#34]
What is the funding mechanism for this new foreign aid package? Where is the money coming from? Is it a new tax?
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:01:35 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: You ever notice how in one thread the UkeBros will claim the Ukrainians are curb stomping the Orcs, but in the next (or sometimes in the same thread) they claim that if we don’t send $87 trillion to Ukraine, Russia will take over all of Europe and go Red Dawn on the US? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: You ever notice how in one thread the UkeBros will claim the Ukrainians are curb stomping the Orcs, but in the next (or sometimes in the same thread) they claim that if we don’t send $87 trillion to Ukraine, Russia will take over all of Europe and go Red Dawn on the US? It's called doublethink. the acceptance of or mental capacity to accept contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time, especially as a result of political indoctrination. Something only low IQ individuals are capable of, hence your typical Ukebro and their beliefs. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:12:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tallahasseezz: It's called doublethink. Something only low IQ individuals are capable of, hence your typical Ukebro and their beliefs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tallahasseezz: Originally Posted By HKocher: You ever notice how in one thread the UkeBros will claim the Ukrainians are curb stomping the Orcs, but in the next (or sometimes in the same thread) they claim that if we don’t send $87 trillion to Ukraine, Russia will take over all of Europe and go Red Dawn on the US? It's called doublethink. the acceptance of or mental capacity to accept contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time, especially as a result of political indoctrination. Something only low IQ individuals are capable of, hence your typical Ukebro and their beliefs. The majority of the most vociferous ones have a familial connection to Ukraine or someone of Ukrainian descent (an adjunct is from a formerly Soviet-oppressed nation), and then there are Cold War leftovers who can not update their firmware. You throw in a few who have few who have financial connections to Ukraine or are Europeans wanting Americans to continue t oay for their protection. Most really are that stupid they allow the above to cause their cognitive dissonance. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:17:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: The majority of the most vociferous ones have a familial connection to Ukraine or someone of Ukrainian descent (an adjunct is from a formerly Soviet-oppressed nation), and then there are Cold War leftovers who can not update their firmware. You throw in a few who have few who have financial connections to Ukraine or are Europeans wanting Americans to continue t oay for their protection. Most really are that stupid they allow the above to cause their cognitive dissonance. I can think of a few that fit that perfectly. I also think the majority of them either work for the government directly or are government contractors. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:19:06 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Who_Me: What is the funding mechanism for this new foreign aid package? Where is the money coming from? Is it a new tax? The tax is the resulting inflation from the printed up money. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:17:53 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LongTrang: Yet, he collects the Russian crap. Soviet****  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:20:05 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc:The House on Saturday passed a set of foreign aid bills that would send $61 billion to Ukraine, $26 billion to Israel, and $8 billion to the Indo-Pacific region. Nothing for the U.S border Why would the U.S. border be classified as “foreign aid”? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:21:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:22:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Soviet**** https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_3096_jpeg-3194077.JPG And? There's a difference? |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:22:46 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Techsan02: I’d support Uke funding if we got something more than mail order brides out of the deal. Some sweet commodity deals or something. But all we’re getting is more debt and one of these days hundreds of billions of rebuilding. Avoiding the rebuild costs is why I’m rooting for Russia. Plus the sooner they fall the sooner they stop being a parasite on the American taxpayer. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:34:33 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Robertpistol: It could have also built a fully featured border wall. And funded deportations of millions of illegal leaches in the country. It could have built factories to employ Americans, and to strengthen our own domestic production at the same time....etc. etc. Prioritizing foreign nations - at this time it is THREE [Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine] over our own country - is not normal. It is proof that the government is corrupt and owned by Globalist interests. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Robertpistol: Originally Posted By grambosc: Just think of how far that funding could have gone to pay for implementing house to house firearm confiscations, or preventing states like Texas from defending the border. Even if every dollar was completely pissed away, it would be better than allowing it to be used for the above. Spending it to kill Russian shitbag commies is a bonus. It could have also built a fully featured border wall. And funded deportations of millions of illegal leaches in the country. It could have built factories to employ Americans, and to strengthen our own domestic production at the same time....etc. etc. Prioritizing foreign nations - at this time it is THREE [Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine] over our own country - is not normal. It is proof that the government is corrupt and owned by Globalist interests. Anything even remotely resembling that would be vetoed on sight. Acceptable alternatives might include funding even more importation of illegals, or increased regulatory enforcement actions against American manufacturers. If the beast cannot be starved, then maybe it should be bled to death. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:47:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vegitan: When are they scheduled to repay us? "Us" never. But potato and his family will reap millions though |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:49:57 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJ7365: Well aren't you the ultimate fucking prophet. Fuck your Ukraine. Yeah, Ukraine is just as corrupt as Russia. They're all Slavic. So is Belarus too. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:51:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: 10% for the big guy.  You know it, it's all a scam funded by American taxpayers. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:53:48 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bologna: Glad to see this pass, we should help them save their country from Russia username checks out👍 |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:58:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GilTPayne: This is an actual American Congressman. He wishes many of us on this forum death, openly and without any repercussions. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLpLd3JagAA3dXn?format=jpg&name=small No, he's not. When having no arguments, just post lies, eh? |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:58:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: masterofpew]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cranberry1: Oh for fucks sake Poland on their own would take Russia out . I think Poland could kick Russia ass too Yeah, I'm part pollock(mom's side) part Dutch(dad's side). But 100% American |
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