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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:22:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: Today I learned this was CP. I thought this was legit the first time I read it.  It's totally legit, we've all been there bruh. Also, page 2. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:39:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalashnikov762: I'm still amazed that there are millions of Americans that actually believe that there is an all powerful entity at the center of the universe that can read their minds from billions of light years away. It's not THAT amazing. The world around you is rife with the evidence of social conditioning by various people and organizations. Religion and the worship of gods is just another result of that. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:53:51 PM EDT
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How's this for logic.
How can you say there is no god with any certainly when we can already create our own universes with direct parallels to our own? We can step in and out of time at will, exert forces or changes in physics or the "impossible" from outside that universe, and can be completely unobservable from with that universe. We can create worlds with thousands of years of history. Change lifespans, flood the world, etc. It's not logical to conclude that there is no god. Agnostic perhaps, but certainly not the atheist viewpoint. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:55:55 PM EDT
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Thoughts are neural activity.
Logic is a particular type of thought. Logic and math are true because they can't be false. 1+2=3 has to be true given the definitions of 1,2,3,+ and = google self evident truth Very, very few religious people explicitly reject the truth of basic logic and math. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:56:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thepantydropper: If logic is merely atoms colliding inside of your brain (brain fizz), how can you trust that random collision of atoms is geared at any sort of truth? It would seem that as an Atheist, you would be unable to trust your own thoughts. I’ve used the google but found no good answer to this question. What say the Atheists here?  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:58:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CommonwealthKid: Monkeys have gods, we're called human beings. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CommonwealthKid: Originally Posted By thepantydropper: If logic is merely atoms colliding inside of your brain (brain fizz), how can you trust that random collision of atoms is geared at any sort of truth? It would seem that as an Atheist, you would be unable to trust your own thoughts. I’ve used the google but found no good answer to this question. What say the Atheists here? Monkeys have gods, we're called human beings. How come we've never seen monkeys praying? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:58:45 PM EDT
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So you're saying any intelligent thought you have is a divine intervention from God? Scary.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:02:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine: One day when I was like 8 on the way home from baseball practice, a group of older special needs people showed up at the Burger King we were eating at. One middle aged mentally challenged guy was walking past our booth as we were eating and he stops and the foot of our table and looks at my dad dead in the eye and says "HIIIIIIII". Now, I'm utterly at a loss for words. My dad isn't exactly the most politely spoken man in the world and isn't above making fun of people for their shortcomings. I'm half scared, half curious how my dad is going to respond to him. My dad is literally chewing on his Whopper when this happens. He puts it down and turns to the guy and with no emotion on his face says "HI" and waves to him. The mentally challenged man was super happy about that and got a little smile and walked away. My dad picks his Whopper back up and takes a bite, no emotion, like nothing just happened. He takes a bite and then says to me, "Son, you always have to be nice to the retards", and goes back to finish his Whopper. He was 100% serious. I don't think I said anything for the next 10 minutes. And that lesson has stuck with me ever since. Which is why I'm not going to make a comment about your post.  Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:03:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine: One day when I was like 8 on the way home from baseball practice, a group of older special needs people showed up at the Burger King we were eating at. One middle aged mentally challenged guy was walking past our booth as we were eating and he stops and the foot of our table and looks at my dad dead in the eye and says "HIIIIIIII". Now, I'm utterly at a loss for words. My dad isn't exactly the most politely spoken man in the world and isn't above making fun of people for their shortcomings. I'm half scared, half curious how my dad is going to respond to him. My dad is literally chewing on his Whopper when this happens. He puts it down and turns to the guy and with no emotion on his face says "HI" and waves to him. The mentally challenged man was super happy about that and got a little smile and walked away. My dad picks his Whopper back up and takes a bite, no emotion, like nothing just happened. He takes a bite and then says to me, "Son, you always have to be nice to the retards", and goes back to finish his Whopper. He was 100% serious. I don't think I said anything for the next 10 minutes. And that lesson has stuck with me ever since. Which is why I'm not going to make a comment about your post. I'm flattered my real life story I shared has become a copypasta. Even more hilarious is the guy who got offended by it. The best satires are the ones the offended don't get 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:03:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDamn, I'm taking my cheers back! Still the first time I saw that, and was worth the snort. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:06:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: A copypasta answered with another copypasta? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By Inneedofhelp: Originally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine: One day when I was like 8 on the way home from baseball practice, a group of older special needs people showed up at the Burger King we were eating at. One middle aged mentally challenged guy was walking past our booth as we were eating and he stops and the foot of our table and looks at my dad dead in the eye and says "HIIIIIIII". Now, I'm utterly at a loss for words. My dad isn't exactly the most politely spoken man in the world and isn't above making fun of people for their shortcomings. I'm half scared, half curious how my dad is going to respond to him. My dad is literally chewing on his Whopper when this happens. He puts it down and turns to the guy and with no emotion on his face says "HI" and waves to him. The mentally challenged man was super happy about that and got a little smile and walked away. My dad picks his Whopper back up and takes a bite, no emotion, like nothing just happened. He takes a bite and then says to me, "Son, you always have to be nice to the retards", and goes back to finish his Whopper. He was 100% serious. I don't think I said anything for the next 10 minutes. And that lesson has stuck with me ever since. Which is why I'm not going to make a comment about your post. This is the kind of shitty, passive aggressive, subtle, and may cross into the territory of being verbal abuse kind of comment some people love to make. You have to be nice to a retard, but you're a retard, all said without actually saying it out loud, bravo, with the passive aggressiveness that would make my own father proud. He was verbally abusive, it's the worst kind of abuse there is, out of the three, physical, verbal and sexual, and I'm pretty sure his attitude rubbed off on me, judging from the verbal abuse I'm slinging in my post. A copypasta answered with another copypasta? 
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:08:39 PM EDT
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law of identity, law of non-contradiction, and law of the excluded middle.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:30:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion10182011: Atom collisions...  I'm not an atheist, but OP clearly don't have a clue how the brain works and is not doing the argument for "faith" any favors.  OP has no clue at all.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:49:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thepantydropper: If logic is merely atoms colliding inside of your brain ... A bad premise cannot kick off a valid logical argument in favor. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:59:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thepantydropper: If logic is merely atoms colliding inside of your brain (brain fizz), how can you trust that random collision of atoms is geared at any sort of truth? It would seem that as an Atheist, you would be unable to trust your own thoughts. I’ve used the google but found no good answer to this question. What say the Atheists here? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:03:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thepantydropper: If logic is merely atoms colliding inside of your brain (brain fizz), how can you trust that random collision of atoms is geared at any sort of truth? It would seem that as an Atheist, you would be unable to trust your own thoughts. I’ve used the google but found no good answer to this question. What say the Atheists here? Those random colliding atoms have created nuclear fission, rockets that launched a man on the moon, skyscrapers and computers (among other things). While it is not incorrect to question one's conclusions it is misguided to underestimate logical conclusions. If OP wants to cast doubt on the conclusions of atheists he should apply his own "logic" and question his own thoughts on religion... FYI: I am an agnostic and question both the existence of god as well as those who deny god's existence. I admit to not knowing... |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:10:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madcap3k: How's this for logic. How can you say there is no god with any certainly when we can already create our own universes with direct parallels to our own? We can step in and out of time at will, exert forces or changes in physics or the "impossible" from outside that universe, and can be completely unobservable from with that universe. We can create worlds with thousands of years of history. Change lifespans, flood the world, etc. It's not logical to conclude that there is no god. Agnostic perhaps, but certainly not the atheist viewpoint. Like in Minecraft? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:12:29 PM EDT
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Wait..... So, the thoughts in my head are gods fault? Well that explains a lot of shit.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:22:01 PM EDT
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I’m an atheist
You guys ask the goofiest questions Swear to God |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:25:44 PM EDT
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In my opinion, working logic is a gift and available to everyone unless impaired.
Welcome to the machine. Have a wonderful stay. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:26:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine: One day when I was like 8 on the way home from baseball practice, a group of older special needs people showed up at the Burger King we were eating at. One middle aged mentally challenged guy was walking past our booth as we were eating and he stops and the foot of our table and looks at my dad dead in the eye and says "HIIIIIIII". Now, I'm utterly at a loss for words. My dad isn't exactly the most politely spoken man in the world and isn't above making fun of people for their shortcomings. I'm half scared, half curious how my dad is going to respond to him. My dad is literally chewing on his Whopper when this happens. He puts it down and turns to the guy and with no emotion on his face says "HI" and waves to him. The mentally challenged man was super happy about that and got a little smile and walked away. My dad picks his Whopper back up and takes a bite, no emotion, like nothing just happened. He takes a bite and then says to me, "Son, you always have to be nice to the retards", and goes back to finish his Whopper. He was 100% serious. I don't think I said anything for the next 10 minutes. And that lesson has stuck with me ever since. Which is why I'm not going to make a comment about your post. Flawless Absolutely flawless |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:26:27 PM EDT
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Those who don't believe in sky dad don't need some kind of faith based truth. The brain stores information as we interpret it and we recall information as needed. Nothing to really ponder about that. We come to the same truth as anyone else. What you can observe compared to what information you have stored.
A better question is how do those with sky dad faith see religion as truth with absolutely zero physical evidence. ETA: I see my truth as compared to my hard drive information (brain). Are you seeing truth as something coming from the heavenly cloud network or something? Not sure what exactly you are asking |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:30:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By victorgonzales: Those who don't believe in sky dad don't need some kind of faith based truth. The brain stores information as we interpret it and we recall information as needed. Nothing to really ponder about that. We come to the same truth as anyone else. What you can observe compared to what information you have stored. A better question is how do those with sky dad faith see religion as truth with absolutely zero physical evidence. ETA: I see my truth as compared to my hard drive information (brain). Are you seeing truth as something coming from the heavenly cloud network or something? Not sure what exactly you are asking There is historical evidence whether real or purported. Using the scientific community in some cases to dictate the parameters such as carbon dating for example as well. How much evidence supports and how much doesn't is the name of the game here. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:33:06 PM EDT
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As atheists who believe in science, we can't hold anything as completely 100% true, only that most of the evidence supports a conclusion, but that conclusion is subject to change pending new evidence.
We can make reasonable conclusions about our thoughts if other reasonable people come to the same conclusion. If 90 out of 100 people come to the sane conclusion about some "thought" given the appropriate evidence, then we can lend credence to that idea. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:38:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SAE: There is historical evidence whether real or purported. Using the scientific community in some cases to dictate the parameters such as carbon dating as well. How much evidence supports and how much doesn't is the name of the game here. I'm sure many biblical figures were real people or based on them. They are stories written by men. Probably based on something. I tend to believe they are just ancient supersticions for the most part with some real named figures from the past sprinkled in. I mean there's no physical evidence of a hands on deity that many religions are based on. I think it's easier to trust data than lack of.it. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:43:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By victorgonzales: I'm sure many biblical figures were real people or based on them. They are stories written by men. Probably based on something. I tend to believe they are just ancient supersticions for the most part with some real named figures from the past sprinkled in. I mean there's no physical evidence of a hands on deity that many religions are based on. I think it's easier to trust data than lack of.it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By victorgonzales: Originally Posted By SAE: There is historical evidence whether real or purported. Using the scientific community in some cases to dictate the parameters such as carbon dating as well. How much evidence supports and how much doesn't is the name of the game here. I'm sure many biblical figures were real people or based on them. They are stories written by men. Probably based on something. I tend to believe they are just ancient supersticions for the most part with some real named figures from the past sprinkled in. I mean there's no physical evidence of a hands on deity that many religions are based on. I think it's easier to trust data than lack of.it. Yet, without contention, virtually everything at one time was unknown to man until circumstances dictated a discovery. This is science or at least in part. Just monkeys singularly evolving in the woods? My logic says that I rather think not. However, your assertion is possible as well and needs to be understood exactly the way that it is just like that. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:49:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine: One day when I was like 8 on the way home from baseball practice, a group of older special needs people showed up at the Burger King we were eating at. One middle aged mentally challenged guy was walking past our booth as we were eating and he stops and the foot of our table and looks at my dad dead in the eye and says "HIIIIIIII". Now, I'm utterly at a loss for words. My dad isn't exactly the most politely spoken man in the world and isn't above making fun of people for their shortcomings. I'm half scared, half curious how my dad is going to respond to him. My dad is literally chewing on his Whopper when this happens. He puts it down and turns to the guy and with no emotion on his face says "HI" and waves to him. The mentally challenged man was super happy about that and got a little smile and walked away. My dad picks his Whopper back up and takes a bite, no emotion, like nothing just happened. He takes a bite and then says to me, "Son, you always have to be nice to the retards", and goes back to finish his Whopper. He was 100% serious. I don't think I said anything for the next 10 minutes. And that lesson has stuck with me ever since. Which is why I'm not going to make a comment about your post.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:51:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: I'm flattered my real life story I shared has become a copypasta. Even more hilarious is the guy who got offended by it. The best satires are the ones the offended don't get Oh that's even better 
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:52:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SAE: Yet, without contention, virtually everything at one time was unknown to man until circumstances dictated a discovery. This is science or at least in part. Just monkeys evolving in the woods? My logic says that I rather think not. However, your assertion is possible as well and needs to be understood exactly the way that it is just like that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SAE: Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Originally Posted By SAE: There is historical evidence whether real or purported. Using the scientific community in some cases to dictate the parameters such as carbon dating as well. How much evidence supports and how much doesn't is the name of the game here. I'm sure many biblical figures were real people or based on them. They are stories written by men. Probably based on something. I tend to believe they are just ancient supersticions for the most part with some real named figures from the past sprinkled in. I mean there's no physical evidence of a hands on deity that many religions are based on. I think it's easier to trust data than lack of.it. Yet, without contention, virtually everything at one time was unknown to man until circumstances dictated a discovery. This is science or at least in part. Just monkeys evolving in the woods? My logic says that I rather think not. However, your assertion is possible as well and needs to be understood exactly the way that it is just like that. Is your logic a different version from actual logic? I know in threads like this folks like to make up their own definitions to words like "theory", "hypothesis", insert any other scientific term here, and somehow think they are just as valid as the actual definitions of those words. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SAE: There is historical evidence whether real or purported.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SAE: There is historical evidence whether real or purported.... Originally Posted By SAE: ...Using the scientific community in some cases to dictate the parameters such as carbon dating for example as well... Originally Posted By SAE: How much evidence supports and how much doesn't is the name of the game here. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:55:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cedjunior: Is your logic a different version from actual logic? I know in threads like this folks like to make up their own definitions to words like "theory", "hypothesis", insert any other scientific term here, and somehow think they are just as valid as the actual definitions of those words. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cedjunior: Originally Posted By SAE: Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Originally Posted By SAE: There is historical evidence whether real or purported. Using the scientific community in some cases to dictate the parameters such as carbon dating as well. How much evidence supports and how much doesn't is the name of the game here. I'm sure many biblical figures were real people or based on them. They are stories written by men. Probably based on something. I tend to believe they are just ancient supersticions for the most part with some real named figures from the past sprinkled in. I mean there's no physical evidence of a hands on deity that many religions are based on. I think it's easier to trust data than lack of.it. Yet, without contention, virtually everything at one time was unknown to man until circumstances dictated a discovery. This is science or at least in part. Just monkeys evolving in the woods? My logic says that I rather think not. However, your assertion is possible as well and needs to be understood exactly the way that it is just like that. Is your logic a different version from actual logic? I know in threads like this folks like to make up their own definitions to words like "theory", "hypothesis", insert any other scientific term here, and somehow think they are just as valid as the actual definitions of those words. Does it sound like it? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:08:14 PM EDT
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Oh here is a microbiology question:
In multicellular organisms: What is the mechanism that initiates development of the daughter centriole, and what prompts the two centrioles to begin moving to opposite sides of the cell? hint: It isnt r motor proteins or endoplasmic reticulum |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:15:22 PM EDT
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Seems like just another take on the "atheists can't have morals" post
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:17:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCPhoenix: We're all born atheistic. Most of the time you're the religion that you were brought up in, or the local area. Weird huh? Being atheist isn't a religion or an even a choice. It's just not believing in a thing that there's no evidence for. I would argue that atheism is actually a secular religion that believes in an extremely long series of extremely unlikely random events, but in which the extremely common random catastrophic events that should co-exist within such a system are for some reason not occurring. This requires a very large leap of faith, especially considering true random doesn't even exist. Some things are just too complicated for us to accurately predict, so we call them random, even though they actually are not. I'm not arguing that any religion is correct, but merely that atheism is actually a religion, and is probably not correct either. No matter what you believe, you can never fully trust your thoughts, or anyone else's. We have a limited view of the world, our minds are influenced by many factors, and we have limited knowledge of those influences. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:17:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine: One day when I was like 8 on the way home from baseball practice, a group of older special needs people showed up at the Burger King we were eating at. One middle aged mentally challenged guy was walking past our booth as we were eating and he stops and the foot of our table and looks at my dad dead in the eye and says "HIIIIIIII". Now, I'm utterly at a loss for words. My dad isn't exactly the most politely spoken man in the world and isn't above making fun of people for their shortcomings. I'm half scared, half curious how my dad is going to respond to him. My dad is literally chewing on his Whopper when this happens. He puts it down and turns to the guy and with no emotion on his face says "HI" and waves to him. The mentally challenged man was super happy about that and got a little smile and walked away. My dad picks his Whopper back up and takes a bite, no emotion, like nothing just happened. He takes a bite and then says to me, "Son, you always have to be nice to the retards", and goes back to finish his Whopper. He was 100% serious. I don't think I said anything for the next 10 minutes. And that lesson has stuck with me ever since. Which is why I'm not going to make a comment about your post. I read the first sentence and knew that we had a new copypasta…. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:18:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: I'm flattered my real life story I shared has become a copypasta. Even more hilarious is the guy who got offended by it. The best satires are the ones the offended don't get Serious?  That was an awesome story. It's perfect.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:18:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancat: Seems like just another take on the "atheists can't have morals" post No, his main achievement is to take that a step further to "atheists can't have thought, it's all just random coincidence." |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By migradog: How come we've never seen monkeys praying? Because they are smarter than us, and dont hope inanimate beings will “save” them? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:23:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GWION: Oh here is a microbiology question: In multicellular organisms: What is the mechanism that initiates development of the daughter centriole, and what prompts the two centrioles to begin moving to opposite sides of the cell? hint: It isnt r motor proteins or endoplasmic reticulum |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:24:46 PM EDT
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You know that crazy guy (J.C.) that used to call up and harass Art Bell all the time? I think that's who OP is...
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:34:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KYLiberty: I would argue that atheism is actually a secular religion that believes in an extremely long series of extremely unlikely random events, but in which the extremely common random catastrophic events that should co-exist within such a system are for some reason not occurring. This requires a very large leap of faith, especially considering true random doesn't even exist. Some things are just too complicated for us to accurately predict, so we call them random, even though they actually are not. I'm not arguing that any religion is correct, but merely that atheism is actually a religion, and is probably not correct either. No matter what you believe, you can never fully trust your thoughts, or anyone else's. We have a limited view of the world, our minds are influenced by many factors, and we have limited knowledge of those influences. And atheism is the opposite of religion. It has no belief in or worship of gods or anything supernatural. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:38:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madcap3k: How's this for logic. How can you say there is no god with any certainly when we can already create our own universes with direct parallels to our own? We can step in and out of time at will, exert forces or changes in physics or the "impossible" from outside that universe, and can be completely unobservable from with that universe. We can create worlds with thousands of years of history. Change lifespans, flood the world, etc. It's not logical to conclude that there is no god. Agnostic perhaps, but certainly not the atheist viewpoint. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:51:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SAE]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rodent: Can you give us an example of anyone "stepping in and out of time", or changing physics, or doing anything impossible, or creating worlds? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rodent: Originally Posted By madcap3k: How's this for logic. How can you say there is no god with any certainly when we can already create our own universes with direct parallels to our own? We can step in and out of time at will, exert forces or changes in physics or the "impossible" from outside that universe, and can be completely unobservable from with that universe. We can create worlds with thousands of years of history. Change lifespans, flood the world, etc. It's not logical to conclude that there is no god. Agnostic perhaps, but certainly not the atheist viewpoint. The Biblical Scriptures say that God did or He is or was an absolute fraud or never had existed at all. The Koran lies about Jesus of Nazareth as well. They knew who He was too. At first they laid no claim to Jerusalem because they knew what happened there and they were afraid to do any such thing. They had no problem with it. This would be up to you to interpret young Captain. You have done a wonderful job up and to this point. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:58:00 PM EDT
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Pretty embarrassing for religious folks if they need to rely on undermining the validity of logic per se to maintain their faith.
That said, this is firstly a question of, can you trust any of your logically derived beliefs, religious or otherwise? Can you trust anything? Not limited to belief in a higher being. I would say, while I generally hang my hat on logic, it's becoming less and less clear that logic is 100% infallible. Logic would say that the cat in the box is either dead or it is alive, but in a quantum world, the cat is both dead and alive until you open the box and see it. The quantum world undermines what we have come to understand to be incontrovertible truth thus far, just as Newtonian physics was undermined by Einsteinian physics. Beyond that, consider that the logic in my dreams seems perfectly sound right up until I awaken. I am relying on that logic and its assumptions throughout the dream and believe it to be true and sound. When we wake up from this life we live now, will today's logic and its assumptions still be sound and true? Dreams within dreams, and it all seems very logical. In the end, your mind's task throughout life is to make sense of what it perceives, and in doing this, it accumulates rules and assumptions along the way. We've built a logical outlook on the world that most would agree upon, but do "we" really exist, or is it yet just another dream? Hard to prove one way or another. I think therefore I am. I think I can count on this. Beyond that, not sure. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 5:00:01 PM EDT
[#45]
How do you know someone is telling the truth when they claim to be a prophet?
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Posted: 4/22/2024 5:42:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: How do you know someone is telling the truth when they claim to be a prophet? Do you think someone would ever LIE about that?! |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:19:32 PM EDT
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I’ll try to articulate my thoughts more clearly.
As a theist, I believe that God created me in his image, giving me purpose and meaning in life. The atheist believes they are a cosmic accident. Here through a random evolutionary process that never had them in mind. If anything, their mind would be geared at survival not truth. An ample analogy might be this. Imagine walking into a room and finding a computer. It has no designer and came to exist by random chance. Would you trust its output? Yet the atheist trusts their own brain to formulate logical conclusions? Why? Regarding atoms, thoughts occur as a result of interactions of molecules, which are complex arrangements of atoms. How can an atheist claim their brain fizz is “right” and an opposing brain fizz is “wrong?” |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:22:18 PM EDT
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[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inneedofhelp: This is the kind of shitty, passive aggressive, subtle, and may cross into the territory of being verbal abuse kind of comment some people love to make. You have to be nice to a retard, but you're a retard, all said without actually saying it out loud, bravo, with the passive aggressiveness that would make my own father proud. He was verbally abusive, it's the worst kind of abuse there is, out of the three, physical, verbal and sexual, and I'm pretty sure his attitude rubbed off on me, judging from the verbal abuse I'm slinging in my post. This pasta is fresh and delicious. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:27:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bayouhazard: Fortunately for the ancient Greeks, they had many gods. As did the Babylonians and the much earlier Sumerians. Their “gods” were in fact ancient alien humanoids called the Annunaki. “Annunaki” means “those who came from heaven to earth.” |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:41:43 PM EDT
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LoL
Self-righteous thepantydropper thread. |
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