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Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:47:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bennnn:


It's the nature of GD that I will have low post count no EE feedback barely involved members abusing me for saying what I think.

I definitely know this is GD. My only opportunity to answer the question in the OP is to respond here in GD.

I'm proposing in this post that you all think about this - if you look at what I've done in the equipment exchange, and my involvement with this site that will show you that I clearly buy things, try them out, keep what I want and get rid of things I don't want. And so what you're hearing from me is from a prolific user, purchaser, and trader of guns and gun parts.

That also means that I watch a lot of videos on YouTube about guns and guns parts.

Y'all's videos come across as very forced marketing of THE CHANNEL.

I'm not talking about you trying to sell parts for Brownells or sell things that they sell. I'm talking about the actual reviews. It comes across as scripted stilted and marketing for the channel which could possibly draw attention to ARFcom itself. If that's the impression that the YouTube community is going to get of arfcom my opinion is that it could be better for the site if it wasn't like that.

I have poured thousands of hours of my life into this website. I won't brag about what I've done here but I will say this, if you want to hear from a quality long-term member who's interacted with the EE and the entire site, that's what I'm providing for you with my posts.

Everyone else can carry on.
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Link Posted: 4/22/2024 11:59:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:05:31 AM EDT
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Pretty decent. You could have spent a little more time comparing it to a G48 MOS or G43x MOS with 15 round mags since those are the direct competitors. Personally I don't care for the M&Pish hinged trigger vs a more traditional Glock-like trigger shoe but that's an opinion and not a data point. I don't know if I needed that many seconds of watching people shoot a pistol over and over again given the total length of the video but that's a very nitpicky nitpick.

Tell PSA we want a Sabre Micro with an upgraded trigger and threaded barrel options. These things are just begging for an Omega 9k or similar.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:05:33 AM EDT
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it would be better if YouTube stopped turning off the comments
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:05:56 AM EDT
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Not bad.  intro too long,  then a teaser then sponsors.  do the sponsors with the intro vid.  not make us wait two minutes to get into it.   a lot of people are gonna shut it off by then.


as you brought up the shield and psa mags.  maybe a little more in depth on it.  also any issues with psa mags?


hear some grumps about shield gen 1 and gen2, not heard a lot about the gen3.  other than still needs a new mag release.



also is this stock mag release as crappy as the other dagger models?   as in stiff, sharp and chonky.  it did not look the same to me.

should have talked about the red dot since in was on there.  I cannot use that particular one as it starbursts bad on me.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:08:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sc00t3r:
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:10:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
You guys actually made me interested in a carry gun that I never would have considered (I'm a G19 guy...), and that feels like kind of a win.
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Me too... but honestly I feel like you guys didn't actually discuss the pistol all that much.

Like... what is it?  A 9mm, 15 round, Glock compatible..... etc.  You talked around it and discussed the features.  But there's so many damn Dagger variations,  which one is this?  Why is this one different?
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:22:03 AM EDT
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Well, I'm subscribed, but don't watch many of the videos. Not really in the market to buy more stuff, so I'm more likely to listen to the news ones.

That said, I'm less likely to watch of it's something I recognize reading about already.  Most of my YouTube watching is really more like listening to podcasts while I do something else.

Not sure if that helps?
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:26:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By somedude:
Not bad.  intro too long,  then a teaser then sponsors.  do the sponsors with the intro vid.  not make us wait two minutes to get into it.   a lot of people are gonna shut it off by then.


as you brought up the shield and psa mags.  maybe a little more in depth on it.  also any issues with psa mags?


hear some grumps about shield gen 1 and gen2, not heard a lot about the gen3.  other than still needs a new mag release.



also is this stock mag release as crappy as the other dagger models?   as in stiff, sharp and chonky.  it did not look the same to me.

should have talked about the red dot since in was on there.  I cannot use that particular one as it starbursts bad on me.
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Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately we didn't get much round count with the PSA Mag in G43xs or G48s to make a claim on reliability. One of the features on the PSA Mag I personally was excited about was the poly overmold on the mag, now you don't have to change your mag release and can continue to use OEM Glock mags if you have them for your G43x/G48 unlike with shield mags. As for use in the Dagger Micro it worked as intended and fell free without snags when they were empty. The mag release felt good but not too stiff, to be fair i didn't notice it and personally that's what I like. Ill make a note to go into more detail in the future, mags are important.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:33:56 AM EDT
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I liked the intro. I will watch it more, later. Yall get a lot of harsh feedback and I just want to say how much I appreciate yall trying to make content we will like. Trying to provide a good service to the community is a good thing.

One small issue, if you’re going to show a close up of someone’s hand, get the fingers cleaned up a bit. I don’t want to say a manicure but make sure things are tidy. I only bring it up because someone will say it sooner or later. Good job.

ETA: more advice, I’d suggest making the transition from sponsor to review more defined. Guy said word from our sponsors and it just didn’t flow well after that. Seemed out of place. Then it went right back into the review and I thought it was still a sponsor thing. Not sure how to fix that, I am not a videographer. Maybe something as simple as “getting back the review… blah blah”.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 1:53:57 AM EDT
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The successful recipe seems to be

(1) wear some form of larping gear with an emphasis on COIN ops
(2) wear flannel shirts sometimes
(3) use a disguise for a period of time
(4) blow stuff up or simply shoot at stuff and destroy it, invite your fellow youtubers to do the same
(5) do hundreds of reviews of various AR15s
(6) do product reviews but make sure you crap on everything
(7) do buddy buddy channel reviews making "guest" appearances
(8) apparently - wear tight shorts or 'threaten' too
(9) ensure you teach SMUT and mil load outs when you have never been in the mil
(10) when shooting at targets - do it at 10 yds and then claim sub MOA accuracy
(11) if outdoors wear Vidda Pro and the latest Alpha
(12) slow mo is your friend
(13) there are no other rounds other than 5.56 NATO
(14) talk about your groups from a 10.3 inch barrel at 1000 yds
(15) make sure you have multiple EDC placed around your home in you vehicle
(16) have an ankle med kit
(17) do more reviews of AR15s
(18) never review a euro firearm but if you do rubbish it
(19) do more product reviews and rubbish anything new, particularly when you don't understand the "tech"
(20) have lots of former SEALs on the channel, ensure their gel is up to scratch
(21) make sure the aforementioned SEAL also put one in OBL/UBL, make sure he does the book launch on your channel
(22) make sure its understood that anyone who uses anything other than an AR15 is a FUDD
(23) never talk about ballistics it confuses the audience and isn't necessary because 5.56 doesn't suffer from drop or windage because of it muzzle velocity
(24) always use MOA, never use MILs - never ever do this, could be career suicide - only "euro" snipers use MILs and that why they always miss (and also because they're not using a 10.3 AR15) - everyone knows this is true




What is the aim of the channel - to inform? or to make money?
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 2:02:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 2:09:32 AM EDT
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there are Blems on sale for $60 for those interested we do get kickbacks from this link that goes to the ammo fund

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I liked the music, started to nod my head to the beat. Lets hear some more retrowave next time.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 6:19:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Joshuasaur:


Noted on the suggestions

To inform and to entertain mostly. We are trying to also give a "forum" presence in other social media platforms.
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Do categories or series, have different levels of depth to specific categories.  Seperate news from technical and lawfare from news. Do more shorts as teasers.  Bring in SMEs to do "in depth" reviews of their specialist areas.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 6:59:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Joshuasaur:


Hmmm, when we made the comparisons to the more compact guns (the Taurus G4X carry, sig p365, etc) I thought we had articulated this. If it didn't come across for you then we definitely should have spent more time on the differences between this and the compact/full size.

I definitely think we were nervous about it being too long, but we clearly skimped on details to accomplish it. We will see about giving more visual demos as well as maybe even giving specific measurements in future reviews.

Thank you for watching the review and taking the time to give us feedback
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You guys did make the comparison.   But it was a one-liner, 6 minutes into the video.

I don't own a Taurus (shudder), and I believe you compared it to the Sig 365 Macro (which I don't own).  So neither of those comparisons helped.

It wasn't until you said something about the magazine compatibility with the Glock 43x/48 that I finally got a size reference... and that's only because I bought  48 a few months back!  

So, yeah, hard measurements are probably good.  Also, if you're going to compare to different pistols,  can you actually show them?
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 7:46:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Colt1860:
The intro is too long but that's a nitpick.  I only watched till 1:30 but it's not shockingly gay.  So, huge improvement!
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Agreed.   Review videos are NOT featured length films - you can tell by how attractive and skinny the main characters...  aren't.  

In reality, most of us are watching for a few action shots and right into the nitty gritty of features, options and the overall verdict of good or bad.  

Long intros, silly animations with loud sound effects or cheesy music is a good way to get ignored, so I'd second the "shorter intro" thought.

Oh, and I'll be the elephant in the room:  you need someone with a really nice perky set of tits and a low-cut shirt for more clicks.   Preferably a female, but these days....
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 7:51:17 AM EDT
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Coming from the camp of hate, that was a really good video. Much improved. If another arfcom vid pops up in my feed i might even watch it.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 8:15:14 AM EDT
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I liked it. Nothing was really cringe and it had some good action clips and discussion. So you definitely get +1 intrawebz for adjusting fire and improving content.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 8:20:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sc00t3r:
it would be better if YouTube stopped turning off the comments
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Maybe, maybe not. Comments on arf-adjacent social media (Facebook, etc) usually are a worse reflection on arf GD than arf GD itself.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 8:21:38 AM EDT
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From a guy with 1.8m+ YouTube subs.


Turn the comments on.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 8:24:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shockergd:
From a guy with 1.8m+ YouTube subs.
Turn the comments on.
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If the comments are unreliable it’ll discourage the “what do YOU guys think? Tell us in the comments!” engagement farming, though.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 8:34:44 AM EDT
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Way better.
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Originally Posted By Shockergd:
From a guy with 1.8m+ YouTube subs.
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 8:57:38 AM EDT
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Can’t watch from work.  I’d say if there isn’t my little pony involved it ought to be fine.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 10:14:53 AM EDT
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That was pretty good.
I don't usually like the "guys sitting around a table" format, but you kept it brief and mostly about the gun.
Videos like this I don't mind being longer to cover everything, but don't make them longer just to make them longer.

I watch using headphones, so I appreciate the effort into not blasting loud music or shooting.

I subbed after this video, will watch more.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 10:34:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 11:23:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Joshuasaur:


That is movement in a positive direction!

Any suggestions to be more straight or easier/more enjoyable to watch? Or do you think this type of content wouldn't be for you either way?

I truly appreciate your time and input!
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The scenes where you have talking head shots and insets of stills etc, I would flip that.  Put the content front and center and inset the talking head.  I would always focus on content, not on trying to display personalities.  When it's good, your content will stand on its own without trying to do the influencer thing.  When you build an audience the personality thing will happen organically.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 1:42:47 PM EDT
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Good review.  Short and to the point.  10 minutes is a good length for a review.  Stayed on topic fairly well.  Good comparisons to other guns in the same family of guns.

My only complaint is that the intro volume is too high compared to the rest of the video.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 2:13:08 PM EDT
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Definitely better. Not much that hasn't already been covered.

Me personally, I don't like the talking heads format. I'll tolerate it if you're a hunk like James Reeve or Colion Noir, tho.

Link Posted: 4/23/2024 3:18:20 PM EDT
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Who is the host? I refuse to give BuddyFucker a click.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 3:42:25 PM EDT
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Overall this is a solid improvement and I applaud your willingness to come here and subject yourself to the thrashings in order to get feedback from people you could honestly probably ignore and it would make little difference in the end result. I’ve went from watching these and debating which fuckboy I’d punch in the face first to being cautiously optimistic about future videos.

Honestly dude great job taking feedback and making changes. Almost makes me regret calling you out for shameless brand and culture whoring in your last thread. Glad to see that your soulless corporate masters hold less sway than previously thought.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 3:45:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shockergd:
From a guy with 1.8m+ YouTube subs.


Turn the comments on.
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100%. I’m just under a million and wouldn’t be anywhere near there without the comment-driven engagement.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 4:09:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 125:


100%. I’m just under a million and wouldn’t be anywhere near there without the comment-driven engagement.
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Originally Posted By 125:
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
From a guy with 1.8m+ YouTube subs.


Turn the comments on.


100%. I’m just under a million and wouldn’t be anywhere near there without the comment-driven engagement.


I can't fathom what it must be like to have as much success as you two.
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