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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:49:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: But I thought the Russians reported they had destroyed all of the incoming missiles? Didn't the Russian say they destroyed all of the incoming missiles? That's weird. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Prime:
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But I thought the Russians reported they had destroyed all of the incoming missiles? Didn't the Russian say they destroyed all of the incoming missiles? That's weird. They destroyed them with Iskander ballistic missiles of course. All 4 ATACMS are gone! Blown to pieces by 200 Islanders! |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:59:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GM4eAPQWwAARakB?format=jpg&name=large
Tracked garden shed 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:01:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GM6DostXcAAW_cG?format=jpg&name=large Maybe there’s video available, since he never cops to anything that can’t be visually confirmed, |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:28:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: The Russians ALWAYS destroy all incoming missiles. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By stone-age: But I thought the Russians reported they had destroyed all of the incoming missiles? Didn't the Russian say they destroyed all of the incoming missiles? That's weird. The Russians ALWAYS destroy all incoming missiles. Technically, they were destroyed when they detonated. In 33 years, I never got to re-use a 155mm projectile, a STINGER missile, a LAW/AT-4, or a 2.75 rocket once I had fired it! 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:39:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I think also as one side or the other drops a bunch of new vids, the stats are updated. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It happens occasionally where there seems to be a parity of losses from both sides. Best to look into it and see what vehicles are getting destroyed. Is Russia still losing heavy units while Ukrine loses light units for example? I think also as one side or the other drops a bunch of new vids, the stats are updated. That too, certainly not a perfect science, but one set of data to go by. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:39:18 PM EDT
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Another twist in hostage release talks.
Link to liveblog articles.below. Hamas says it accepts ceasefire proposal, does not specify terms Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh tells Qatar’s Prime Minister Mohammad bin Abdulrahman Al Thani and Egyptian intelligence chief Abbas Kamel that the terror group accepts their terms for a ceasefire with Israel, according to an official announcement from Hamas. The announcement does not specify what those terms are. A senior Hamas official tells Al Jazeera the same. Israel has repeatedly said it will not accept a deal, as repeatedly demanded by Hamas, that conditions the release of hostages on the end of the war. On Saturday, furthermore, an official source, widely believed to be Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, stated that Israel had not empowered the mediators to issue guarantees of an end to the war, either. US, Egyptian, and Qatari mediators have been negotiating with Hamas in recent days over a three-phase proposal, green-lit by Israel. The proposal has not been published, but reportedly provides, in the first phase, for 33 living hostages — women, children, the elderly and the sick — to be freed during a 40-day truce, in return for hundreds of Palestinian security prisoners. As per the reported text of the offer, indirect negotiations between Israel and Hamas would begin anew on the 16th day of the truce, to set out an arrangement to restore sustainable calm to Gaza over the second and third stages of the deal. In the second phase, all remaining living prisoners would be released during a further 42-day truce, in return for hundreds more security prisoners, and the IDF would withdraw from Gaza. The third and final stage of the deal would again last 42 days and Hamas would reportedly be required to hand over the bodies of those who were killed on October 7 or died in captivity, in exchange for bodies of Palestinian security prisoners who died in Israeli custody. The rehabilitation of the Gaza Strip would begin during the first phase of the deal, starting with the restoration of Gaza’s roads, electricity, water, sanitation, and communication infrastructure. Preparations for a five-year reconstruction plan for Gaza’s homes and civilian infrastructure would be completed during the second phase of the deal, and construction would begin in the third stage. Officials: Hamas appears to have okayed ceasefire terms that Israel did not approve Israeli officials are cautioning against taking at face value Hamas’s announcement that it accepts a ceasefire deal. Officials tell networks Kan, 12, and 13 that the terms Hamas accepted are not those that Israel agreed to. According to the officials quoted by the networks, the offer Hamas has accepted is one made unilaterally by Egypt and is not being taken seriously in Jerusalem before the details are clarified. An Israeli official tells Reuters that the Hamas announcement appears to be a ruse designed to cast Israel as the side refusing a deal. Hamas announcement that it accepts a ceasefire comes soon after US President Joe Biden and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and with CIA chief Bill Burns having shuttled from Doha to Jerusalem today. A considerable part of the Biden-Netanyahu call was devoted to the efforts to reach a truce-for-hostages deal. A US National Security Council spokesperson said earlier today that Biden, in the call, reiterated his concerns about an IDF invasion of Rafah and said he believes reaching a ceasefire with Hamas is the best way to protect the lives of the Israeli hostages held in Gaza. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:44:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#7]
Edit, beaten.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:54:18 PM EDT
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This is the dedicated anti ballistic missile variant.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:55:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Edit, beaten. It's OK, the more posts the better. I'd love to see their faces when they learn it was fake news. I'd like to think Israel had a hand in kicking the celebrations off, if so it was the best trolling effort ever. Gazans thought it was funny playing mind games during the last hostage release, nice to let them know how it feels. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:56:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ITCHY-FINGER]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Technically, they were destroyed when they detonated. In 33 years, I never got to re-use a 155mm projectile, a STINGER missile, a LAW/AT-4, or a 2.75 rocket once I had fired it! Same. Although once dropping rounds down an 81mm mortar led to deafening silence. After kicking the side of the tube for a while we had the option of tipping the tube while a volunteer tries to grab the round or calling EOD. We called EOD. But I dont think anyone re-used that round nor was it "intercepted" in the Russian sense. Edit: 82mm mortar. I always get them mixed up. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:57:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66: It's OK, the more posts the better. I'd love to see their faces when they learn it was fake news. I'd like to think Israel had a hand in kicking the celebrations off, if so it was the best trolling effort ever. Gazans thought it was funny playing mind games during the last hostage release, nice to let them know how it feels. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Edit, beaten. It's OK, the more posts the better. I'd love to see their faces when they learn it was fake news. I'd like to think Israel had a hand in kicking the celebrations off, if so it was the best trolling effort ever. Gazans thought it was funny playing mind games during the last hostage release, nice to let them know how it feels. 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:10:33 PM EDT
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  AUTONOMOUS MULTI-DOMAIN LAUNCHER (AML) Simulation Video 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:17:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:18:55 PM EDT
[#14]
lol, Poland is already on the list for hosting our nukes.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:28:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:57:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Technically, they were destroyed when they detonated. In 33 years, I never got to re-use a 155mm projectile, a STINGER missile, a LAW/AT-4, or a 2.75 rocket once I had fired it! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By stone-age: But I thought the Russians reported they had destroyed all of the incoming missiles? Didn't the Russian say they destroyed all of the incoming missiles? That's weird. The Russians ALWAYS destroy all incoming missiles. Technically, they were destroyed when they detonated. In 33 years, I never got to re-use a 155mm projectile, a STINGER missile, a LAW/AT-4, or a 2.75 rocket once I had fired it!  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:02:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:15:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Bundeswehr Webex conferences were viewable for months There was a security gap in the Bundeswehr's Webex instance, which, according to the cyber force CIR, has been closed. The incident is serious.
Article in German. Google translation: May 4, 2024, 4:45 p.m Reading time: 2 minutes From Nico Ernst For months, the dates, participants and topics of Bundeswehr conferences that were planned via the Cisco Webex system were openly visible on the Internet. This is reported by Zeit Online, which researched the case together with the Netzbegrünung association. As a spokesman for the force for cyber and information space confirmed at the dpa's request on Saturday, there was a "vulnerability" during the week, but it was eliminated within 24 hours. Previously, meta data such as times and participants could be viewed via the Webex communications platform. However, it was not possible to dial in and access any confidential content. That sounds pretty harmless in the agency report, but according to Die Zeit, it isn't. The gap is said to have existed for months, and the meetings were numbered consecutively - so the corresponding URLs could apparently be guessed. Over 6,000 appointments were available. In addition, the topics of a conference alone represented confidential information about the troops that was publicly visible and thus a ready target for spies. Topics and meeting rooms open online According to Zeit, there was a meeting on April 25th with the subject “Review of the Taurus milestone plan and finalization” as well as other conferences that were also classified as “classified information – for official use only” (VS-NfD). According to Federal Defense Minister Boris Pistorius in March 2023, this is also permitted for Webex conversations. Higher classifications such as “Secret” may not be used via Webex. The appointments could be tracked until the beginning of November 2023. The permanent meeting rooms of some officers were also visible, such as that of the Air Force Inspector, Lieutenant General Ingo Gerhartz. He was one of the participants in the Webex conversation leaked by Russian actors in March about the possible use of the Taurus cruise missile in Ukraine. As Netzbegrünung explains, identifiers such as first name.last name could also potentially create “complete or almost complete email records”. What's more: Die Zeit was also able to enter Gerhartz's meeting room according to its own account. This apparently careless use of Webex by the Bundeswehr also raises new questions that those responsible wanted to clear up quickly after the Taurus leak. Pistorius emphasized at the time that the force was using a “Webex for Bundeswehr” that was operated on its own systems. But if these computers, which are operated in their own networks, spit out publicly accessible websites, it's of no use.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:31:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#19]
It is on. Hamas getting their asses handed to them.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:37:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:39:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:03:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, they had to get this close to destroy it in daylight. Set up some cheaper Stinger missiles on a rotating remote control mount like they use for their camera system and fire away.
Why are the naval drones deployed during day when they are visible to everyone? Why do they not send them out at night? |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:05:18 PM EDT
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This is from two years ago, lol.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:07:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Why are the naval drones deployed during day when they are visible to everyone? Why do they not send them out at night? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, they had to get this close to destroy it in daylight. Set up some cheaper Stinger missiles on a rotating remote control mount like they use for their camera system and fire away.
Why are the naval drones deployed during day when they are visible to everyone? Why do they not send them out at night? I wondered the same, unless the Russians spotted them at a staging point far from a target I see no reason to use those in daylight. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:08:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
Well, they got Patriot reloads AND at least some F-16s may be in country now. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:10:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Foreign influence in news and elections is a huge problem. Here in the USA and to a much bigger extent in smaller countries. I watch Hungarian language news pretty regularly and the Orban Admin. is constantly criticizing US influence, financing opposition parties. There are several scandals where the leftist parties got millions of $$$ from the USA but claimed it was all small individual donations. They call it the "dollar-media" or "rolling dollars" since it comes from the USA (either Soros NGO's or State Dept. which seem to have the same people and same interests). It's the same model as Soros uses here in local elections like DA's and judges. Keeping corrupt influence out of local politics is a universal problem. I wouldn't object to banning money/contributions from out of state in the US. In the context of eastern Europe, it's an even harder problem. If you clamp down on official channels like bank-routed funding, you get the FSB sending somebody in with a literal bag of cash. I don't disagree with trying to keep foreign influence out, but it's a bigger problem than just properly registering foreign-funded agents & organizations. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:10:39 PM EDT
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In Kyiv, sappers neutralized the warhead of the Kh-69 missile. It was found by a local resident in the territory of the forest massif. Since this is a new weapon, it took more time for the specialists of the State Emergency Service to safely remove it from the ground, load it into a special vehicle and transport it to the blast site.   
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:12:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:18:07 PM EDT
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In this way, the Russian advance on the flanks of the city is restrained. “The canal itself is a serious obstacle to its assault and the movement of enemy forces. On the other hand, the destruction of the bridge across the canal means that, unfortunately, there are no our troops on the other side,” Tymochko said. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:20:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:23:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lorazepam]
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https://twitter.com/chitowntoktown/status/1787539949123764448
The U.S. government continues to ease sanctions imposed on Russia |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:24:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lieh-tzu]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
Well, WHAT red lines (allegedly)? And according to what sources? 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:28:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:28:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Well, WHAT red lines (allegedly)? Did you read it? |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:30:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lieh-tzu]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Did you read it? All I saw was one tweet with a photo. Is there more? I don't have a Twitter account, so a lot of material is unavailable on my end.  ETA - got it, thanks. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:30:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:33:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Why are the naval drones deployed during day when they are visible to everyone? Why do they not send them out at night? Agreed. I assume that with the long journey, they miscalculated when it would arrive, it got delayed and ended up near the target in the daytime. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:34:02 PM EDT
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They normally use troops to fight fires. Sorry about their luck. Floods, fires, I wonder what is next?
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:37:41 PM EDT
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See you guys later. Taking a break for a while.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:40:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryInteresting. So 3rd party intervention in Ukraine (Belarus invades?) and/or Russian provocations in any Baltic countries are red lines. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:46:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:47:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: See you guys later. Taking a break for a while. Hope all is well |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:48:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Agreed. I assume that with the long journey, they miscalculated when it would arrive, it got delayed and ended up near the target in the daytime. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:Why are the naval drones deployed during day when they are visible to everyone? Why do they not send them out at night? Agreed. I assume that with the long journey, they miscalculated when it would arrive, it got delayed and ended up near the target in the daytime. I could buy that if it were a one-time thing, but we've seen a bunch of videos of naval drones in the day. Some successful attacks at night, but other occasions of daytime use. Naval operations are quite used to close consideration of wind/weather/tide/current conditions. Getting across to Sevastopol isn't that far that planners could be taken by surprise. Odessa to Sevastopol is about 205 nautical miles. At 15 knots, it's more than half a day. Launch in late afternoon, sunset with the unit in international water, getting close to Sevastopol early enough to confront the harbor defenses before sunrise. That's quite an oversimplification, of course. It assumes steady speed and direct course, which are both unlikely. Even so, the back half of the journey should be taking place in full dark. Are Russian helos catching them in open water long before they approach Crimea? Russian air patrol gives them a HUGE advantage because Russia has air superiority. Again, I only raise this because we've seen multiple videos of sea drones getting attacked in full daylight. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 4:53:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Noisy near Sevastopol and Feodosia 👀
https://t.me/crimean_seagull_warrior/1554 Three cruise missiles passed through Berdyansk towards the Crimean Bridge, reports the TG channel “Military Chronicle”. Their type and further direction have not yet been specified. Traffic on the Crimean Bridge and through the Dzhankoy checkpoint in the north of the peninsula is temporarily blocked, and an air hazard has been declared in the Kherson region. https://t.me/rusbrief/227429  https://crimea-news.com/society/2024/05/06/1363135.html ~1500ET Traffic on the Crimean Bridge has been restored. https://t.me/most_official/6021 |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:01:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: See you guys later. Taking a break for a while.  
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:16:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Saltwater-Hillbilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It is on. Hamas getting their asses handed to them.
I figured that the 14 or so missiles fired at Israel from Rafah were not going to go unanswered. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:18:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Interesting. So 3rd party intervention in Ukraine (Belarus invades?) and/or Russian provocations in any Baltic countries are red lines. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Interesting. So 3rd party intervention in Ukraine (Belarus invades?) and/or Russian provocations in any Baltic countries are red lines. Can also be seen as a degree of strategic ambiguity regarding Belarus. If Belarus has to worry about Poland pushing their shit in, less likely for Belarus to get involved. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:19:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:25:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:27:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MKSheppard]
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  Russia's not yet quite out of AFVs yet, but the bottom of the barrel is in sight. |
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