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Posted: 4/25/2024 6:41:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:49:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:39:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:47:28 AM EDT
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Due to the careless overloading of ammunition, 2 soldiers died in Mykolaiv, — DBR.
On April 24, 2024, a detonation occurred in a car park in Mykolaiv during the careless overloading of ammunition by military personnel from one car to another. Two soldiers died and two more were wounded. Cars that were near the epicenter of the explosion were also involved. During the elimination of the fire, there was another explosion, which injured five rescuers who came to the call. https://t.me/ukrcadet/15358    |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:43:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: It's a little complicated. There are natural resources there and it may be unwise to let our enemies control. Also Russian shenanigans there can create a flood of migrants heading for the EU. Start sinking those giant zodiacs in the med, and that invasion will stop. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:12:29 AM EDT
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Asharq Al-Awsat: Iran decreasing presence in Syria, to be replaced with Hezbollah and Iraqi militias Link
Iran hates it when Farsi speakers die. Iranian forces have pulled out of bases in Damascus and southern Syria, and will potentially be replaced by Iraqi militants, according to a report by Asharq Al-Awsat. The report quotes a source close to the Lebanon-based Hezbollah, who said the group's forces, along wih an Iraqi presence, have replaced the Iranians in areas around Damascus, Daraa, and Quneitra. The report adds that Iran suspects that Syrian security officers were the cause of leaks that led to a series of assassinations of Revolutionary Guards officials, including that of Mohammad Reza Zahedi earlier in April. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:18:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 103: Wait, GD thinks this is a "new" axis? I was having discussions with friends about this "new axis" in 2008 lamenting the C team Obama was bringing in to handle foreign policy. This has been the primary axis of global authoritarianism for many years, but some prior administrations didn't want to focus on major threats, only lesser ones. See Bush the Younger's junior-tier "axis of evil" that was really just a distraction from the primary sources of evil. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:22:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: This has been the primary axis of global authoritarianism for many years, but some prior administrations didn't want to focus on major threats, only lesser ones. See Bush the Younger's junior-tier "axis of evil" that was really just a distraction from the primary sources of evil. Even worse Rumsfeld didn’t want to do Jack shit about North Korea  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:24:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:30:44 AM EDT
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I was so tired I forgot to add Ethiopia & Eritrea to the African posts
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:37:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 4:04:58 PM EDT
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   Pig farmers publish photos of a Ukrainian A-22 Foxbat aircraft, converted into a heavy kamikaze UAV, that crashed somewhere in their barn Similar “planes” were previously used by the SBU for attacks on Tatarstan. Under the belly you can see a payload in the form of an OFAB-250 aerial bomb, and there is also an optical-electronic station on the nose, which hints that the drone is controlled in real time, which ensures its accuracy. Our answer to “mopeds” 💪🇺🇦 https://t.me/uniannet/132151 |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 4:14:17 PM EDT
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but the other tanks and BMP/MT-LB continued the assault. It looks as though some of the other tanks/vehicles may have been lost but others continued despite strikes by mines, FPVs, or other munitions. Part of same assault.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 4:40:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 4:41:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Is this the thread that demands American taxpayers deal with the increased debt and devaluing of our money due to the inflation related to sending hundreds of billions of dollars (which used to account for the entire US budget) overseas to non-allied and foreign countries to combat The New Red Threat™ ? If so, I'm in. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/l6I8mJU__1_-92.gif The problem is that EVERYONE is up to their eyeballs in debt. Much of the instability in the world is due to the impending economic dislocations as China, the US, Japan, and others hit the line where the debts become unmanageable (such as US interest payments exceeding the defense budget, the liquidation of the Chinese Middle Class wealth holdings, the decline of Hong Kong, etc). If this was during a time of demographic growth, there might be a potentially palatable outcome; instead, this will likely result in the collapse of the Post Cold-War geopolitical and economic order. Everyone is jockeying for position for when the dominoes start to fall. One of the reasons for the Biden Administration "worst of both worlds" approach to Ukraine, Israel, the Border, etc. is that the so-called "US leadership" is out of ideas and has just defaulted to it's programing. All the attempts at censorship, unconstitutional acts, etc is just a bunch of scared Ivy-educated twits who are seeing what passes for their religion coming apart and doing anything they can to keep the party going a little longer. Watch for a major system crash right after the election regardless of who wins. Things will get sporty in the next few years, and we may be in the ironic position where Ukraine ends up being money well spent, since they have the potential to remove Russia as an economic threat for a generation. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 5:07:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 6:30:40 PM EDT
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Interpol Issues Warrant Against Iranian Minister for Involvement in Argentina Attack Link Argentina's Court of Cassation deemed Iran and Hezbollah responsible for the bombing in Buenos Aires that leveled the community center, killing 85 people, wounding 300 and devastating Latin America's biggest Jewish community. The court said the attack came in retaliation for Argentina reneging on a nuclear cooperation deal with Tehran. Entire article in quote box An Interpol arrest warrant has been issued against Ahmad Vahidi, the current interior minister of Iran who previously served in the Revolutionary Guard's Quds Force, due to his involvement in the 1994 truck bomb attack on a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires that killed 85 people. Interpol approved the Argentine foreign ministry's request for a red notice, given in order to seek the location and arrest a wanted person, according to the international policing organization. The red notice states that Vahidi is wanted for aggravated murder and damages. Iran's Foreign Ministry condemned the move, calling it "an illegal demand by some Argentine judges." Spokesperson Nasser Kanaani further stated that "this demand is based on lies and fabrications." However, the Foreign Ministry's statement didn't include specific mentions of Vahidi. The deadly incident, commonly known as the AMIA bombing, took place in July 1994. Earlier this month, an Argentinian court concluded that Iran had planned the attack and its Lebanese proxy, Hezbollah, had executed the plans. In a ruling obtained by The Associated Press, Argentina's Court of Cassation deemed Iran and Hezbollah responsible for the bombing in Buenos Aires that leveled the community center, killing 85 people, wounding 300 and devastating Latin America's biggest Jewish community. The court said the attack came in retaliation for Argentina reneging on a nuclear cooperation deal with Tehran. Alleging Iran's "political and strategic" role in the bombing, the Argentine court paved the way for victims' families to bring lawsuits against the Islamic Republic. In the past three decades, Iran has not turned over citizens convicted in Argentina. Interpol arrest warrants have led nowhere. The court singled out top Iranian officials and paramilitary Revolutionary Guard commanders in its determination that Iran carried out the bombings in response to Argentina scrapping three contracts that would have provided Tehran with nuclear technology in the mid-1980s. Its conclusions were based on confidential intelligence reports. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:09:42 PM EDT
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Today’s “Ukraine the Latest.” Highlight is a US conservative podcaster brought in to explain to European audiences the US conservative positions on Ukraine aid and aid politics. Stellar summary including some factors you may’ve heard of and some you may have not. Would even call it a must-listen to understand where things have been and where they may go.
 Revealed: US sent long-range missiles to Ukraine "in secret". Ukraine: The Latest, Podcast New Silicon Curtain with Anders Puck Nielsen. Nothing too amazing in this one.  Anders Puck Nielsen - Will Munitions being Shipped to Ukraine at Scale Help Turn the Tide of War? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:38:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:28:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://www.twz.com/air/ukrainian-fighter-jets-using-ipads-to-control-western-weapons "If it looks stupid but it works, it's not stupid" 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:36:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: As Blinken Heads to China, What’s on the Agenda? China’s support for Russia will be a primary topic, along with war in the Middle East and tensions over Taiwan and the South China Sea. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is starting three days of talks with senior Chinese officials in Shanghai and Beijing this week with China-U.S. ties at a critical point over numerous global disputes. The mere fact that Blinken is making the trip – shortly after a conversation between U.S. President Joe Biden and Chinese leader Xi Jinping, a similar visit to China by Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, and a call between the U.S. and Chinese defense chiefs – might be seen by some as encouraging, but ties between Washington and Beijing are tense and the rifts are growing wider. From Russia and Ukraine to Israel, Iran, and the broader Middle East as well as Indo-Pacific and trade issues, the United States and China are on a series of collision courses that have sparked fears about military and strategic security as well as international economic stability. Blinken “will raise clearly and candidly our concerns” during the talks starting Wednesday, a senior State Department official said. Here’s a look at some of the key issues Blinken is expected to bring up on the trip: Russia-Ukraine War The Biden administration has grown increasingly concerned in recent months about Chinese support for Russia’s defense industrial base, which U.S. officials say is allowing Moscow to overcome Western sanctions imposed after its invasion of Ukraine and resupply its military. U.S. officials say this will be a primary topic of conversation during Blinken’s visit. While the United States says it has no evidence China actually is arming Russia, officials say other activities are potentially equally problematic. “If China purports on the one hand to want good relations with Europe and other countries, it can’t on the other hand be fueling what is the biggest threat to European security since the end of the Cold War,” Blinken said last week. China says it has the right to trade with Russia and accuses the United States of fanning the flames by arming and funding Ukraine. “It is extremely hypocritical and irresponsible for the U.S. to introduce a large-scale aid bill for Ukraine while making groundless accusations against normal economic and trade exchanges between China and Russia,” Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin said Tuesday in Beijing. A senior State Department official said Friday that “through Chinese support, Russia has largely reconstituted its defense industrial base, which has an impact not just on the battlefield in Ukraine but poses a larger threat, we believe, to broader European security.” Middle East Tensions U.S. officials, from Biden on down, have repeatedly appealed to China to use any leverage it may have with Iran to prevent Israel’s war against Hamas in Gaza from spiraling into a wider regional conflict. While China appears to have been generally receptive to such calls – particularly because it depends heavily on oil imports from Iran and other Mideast nations – tensions have steadily increased since the beginning of the Gaza war in October and more recent direct strikes and counterstrikes between Israel and Iran. Blinken has pushed for China to take a more active stance in pressing Iran not to escalate tensions in the Middle East. He has spoken to his Chinese counterpart, Wang Yi, several times over the past six months and urged China to tell Iran to restrain the proxy groups it has supported in the region, including Hamas, Lebanon’s Hezbollah, Yemen’s Houthis, and Iranian-backed militias in Iraq and Syria. Blinken told Wang in a phone call this month that “escalation is not in anyone’s interest and that countries should urge Iran not to escalate,” State Department spokesman Matthew Miller said of their last conversation. The senior State Department official said Blinken would reiterate the U.S. interest in China using “whatever channels or influence it has to try to convey the need for restraint to all parties, including Iran.” Taiwan and the South China Sea In the Indo-Pacific region, China and the United States are the major players, but Beijing has become increasingly aggressive in recent years toward Taiwan and its smaller Southeast Asian neighbors, with which it has significant territorial and maritime disputes in the South China Sea. The U.S. has strongly condemned Chinese military exercises threatening Taiwan, which Beijing regards as a renegade province and has vowed to reunify with the mainland by force if necessary. Successive U.S. administrations have steadily boosted military support and sales for Taipei, much to Chinese anger. The senior State Department official said Blinken would “underscore, both in private and public, America’s abiding interest in maintaining peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait. We think that is vitally important for the region and the world.” In the South China Sea, the U.S. and others have become increasingly concerned by provocative Chinese actions in and around disputed areas. In particular, the U.S. has voiced objections to what it says are Chinese attempts to thwart legitimate maritime activities by others in the sea, notably the Philippines and Vietnam. That was a major topic of concern this month when Biden held a three-way summit with the prime minister of Japan and the president of the Philippines. Human Rights and Synthetic Opioids The U.S. and China are at deep odds over human rights in China’s western Xinjiang region, Tibet, and Hong Kong as well as the fate of several American citizens that the State Department says have been “wrongfully detained” by Chinese authorities. China has repeatedly rejected the American criticism as improper interference in its internal affairs. Yet, Blinken will again raise these issues, according to the senior State Department official, who added that China’s self-described efforts to rein in the export of materials that traffickers use to make fentanyl have yet to yield significant results. The two sides agreed last year to set up a working group to look into ways to combat the surge of production of fentanyl precursors in China and their export abroad. U.S. officials say they believe they had made some limited progress on cracking down on the illicit industry, but many producers had found ways to get around new restrictions. https://thediplomat.com/2024/04/as-blinken-heads-to-china-whats-on-the-agenda/ I would be fucking embarrassed to be the Secretary of State of the US going to another country to ask them to get another country under control. I hope the Chinese openly laugh and mock that dickless motherfucker like he deserves. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:43:21 PM EDT
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As always, thanks for the updates
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Posted: 4/25/2024 8:53:25 PM EDT
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Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats
WASHINGTON (AP) — Ukraine has sidelined U.S.-provided Abrams M1A1 battle tanks for now in its fight against Russia, in part because Russian drone warfare has made it too difficult for them to operate without detection or coming under attack, two U.S. military officials told The Associated Press. The U.S. agreed to send 31 Abrams to Ukraine in January 2023 after an aggressive monthslong campaign by Kyiv arguing that the tanks, which cost about $10 million apiece, were vital to its ability to breach Russian lines. But the battlefield has changed substantially since then, notably by the ubiquitous use of Russian surveillance drones and hunter-killer drones. Those weapons have made it more difficult for Ukraine to protect the tanks when they are quickly detected and hunted by Russian drones or rounds. Five of the 31 tanks have already been lost to Russian attacks. The proliferation of drones on the Ukrainian battlefield means “there isn’t open ground that you can just drive across without fear of detection,” a senior defense official told reporters Thursday. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide an update on U.S. weapons support for Ukraine before Friday’s Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting. For now, the tanks have been moved from the front lines, and the U.S. will work with the Ukrainians to reset tactics, said Joint Chiefs of Staff Vice Chairman Adm. Christopher Grady and a third defense official who confirmed the move on the condition of anonymity. “When you think about the way the fight has evolved, massed armor in an environment where unmanned aerial systems are ubiquitous can be at risk,” Grady told the AP in an interview this week, adding that tanks are still important. “Now, there is a way to do it,” he said. “We’ll work with our Ukrainian partners, and other partners on the ground, to help them think through how they might use that, in that kind of changed environment now, where everything is seen immediately.” News of the sidelined tanks comes as the U.S. marks the two-year anniversary of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, a coalition of about 50 countries that meets monthly to assess Ukraine’s battlefield needs and identify where to find needed ammunition, weapons or maintenance to keep Ukraine’s troops equipped. Recent aid packages, including the $1 billion military assistance package signed by President Joe Biden on Wednesday, also reflect a wider reset for Ukrainian forces in the evolving fight. The U.S. is expected to announce Friday that it also will provide about $6 billion in long-term military aid to Ukraine, U.S. officials said, adding that it will include much sought after munitions for Patriot air defense systems. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details not yet made public. The $1 billion package emphasized counter-drone capabilities, including .50-caliber rounds specifically modified to counter drone systems; additional air defenses and ammunition; and a host of alternative, and cheaper, vehicles, including Humvees, Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles and Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles. The U.S. also confirmed for the first time that it is providing long-range ballistic missiles known as ATACMs, which allow Ukraine to strike deep into Russian-occupied areas without having to advance and be further exposed to either drone detection or fortified Russian defenses. While drones are a significant threat, the Ukrainians also have not adopted tactics that could have made the tanks more effective, one of the U.S. defense officials said. After announcing it would provide Ukraine the Abrams tanks in January 2023, the U.S. began training Ukrainians at Grafenwoehr Army base in Germany that spring on how to maintain and operate them. They also taught the Ukrainians how to use them in combined arms warfare — where the tanks operate as part of a system of advancing armored forces, coordinating movements with overhead offensive fires, infantry troops and air assets. As the spring progressed and Ukraine’s highly anticipated counteroffensive stalled, shifting from tank training in Germany to getting Abrams on the battlefield was seen as an imperative to breach fortified Russian lines. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy announced on his Telegram channel in September that the Abrams had arrived in Ukraine. Since then, however, Ukraine has only employed them in a limited fashion and has not made combined arms warfare part of its operations, the defense official said. During its recent withdrawal from Avdiivka, a city in eastern Ukraine that was the focus of intense fighting for months, several tanks were lost to Russian attacks, the official said. A long delay by Congress in passing new funding for Ukraine meant its forces had to ration ammunition, and in some cases they were only able to shoot back once for every five or more times they were targeted by Russian forces. In Avdiivka, Ukrainian forces were badly outgunned and fighting back against Russian glide bombs and hunter-killer drones with whatever ammunition they had left. https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:01:23 PM EDT
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Very visual article, just go to the site.
How Ukraine Overcame Russia’s Grain Blockade Russia’s sealing off of Ukraine’s vital Black Sea ports and its attacks on Ukrainian grain storage centers at one point raised worldwide alarm about possible food shortages. But by early this year, grain exports were nearly back to prewar levels. https://www.cfr.org/article/how-ukraine-overcame-russias-grain-blockade |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:05:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:12:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats WASHINGTON (AP) — Ukraine has sidelined U.S.-provided Abrams M1A1 battle tanks for now in its fight against Russia, in part because Russian drone warfare has made it too difficult for them to operate without detection or coming under attack, two U.S. military officials told The Associated Press. The U.S. agreed to send 31 Abrams to Ukraine in January 2023 after an aggressive monthslong campaign by Kyiv arguing that the tanks, which cost about $10 million apiece, were vital to its ability to breach Russian lines. But the battlefield has changed substantially since then, notably by the ubiquitous use of Russian surveillance drones and hunter-killer drones. Those weapons have made it more difficult for Ukraine to protect the tanks when they are quickly detected and hunted by Russian drones or rounds. Five of the 31 tanks have already been lost to Russian attacks. The proliferation of drones on the Ukrainian battlefield means “there isn’t open ground that you can just drive across without fear of detection,” a senior defense official told reporters Thursday. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide an update on U.S. weapons support for Ukraine before Friday’s Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting. For now, the tanks have been moved from the front lines, and the U.S. will work with the Ukrainians to reset tactics, said Joint Chiefs of Staff Vice Chairman Adm. Christopher Grady and a third defense official who confirmed the move on the condition of anonymity. “When you think about the way the fight has evolved, massed armor in an environment where unmanned aerial systems are ubiquitous can be at risk,” Grady told the AP in an interview this week, adding that tanks are still important. “Now, there is a way to do it,” he said. “We’ll work with our Ukrainian partners, and other partners on the ground, to help them think through how they might use that, in that kind of changed environment now, where everything is seen immediately.” News of the sidelined tanks comes as the U.S. marks the two-year anniversary of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, a coalition of about 50 countries that meets monthly to assess Ukraine’s battlefield needs and identify where to find needed ammunition, weapons or maintenance to keep Ukraine’s troops equipped. Recent aid packages, including the $1 billion military assistance package signed by President Joe Biden on Wednesday, also reflect a wider reset for Ukrainian forces in the evolving fight. The U.S. is expected to announce Friday that it also will provide about $6 billion in long-term military aid to Ukraine, U.S. officials said, adding that it will include much sought after munitions for Patriot air defense systems. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details not yet made public. The $1 billion package emphasized counter-drone capabilities, including .50-caliber rounds specifically modified to counter drone systems; additional air defenses and ammunition; and a host of alternative, and cheaper, vehicles, including Humvees, Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles and Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles. The U.S. also confirmed for the first time that it is providing long-range ballistic missiles known as ATACMs, which allow Ukraine to strike deep into Russian-occupied areas without having to advance and be further exposed to either drone detection or fortified Russian defenses. While drones are a significant threat, the Ukrainians also have not adopted tactics that could have made the tanks more effective, one of the U.S. defense officials said. After announcing it would provide Ukraine the Abrams tanks in January 2023, the U.S. began training Ukrainians at Grafenwoehr Army base in Germany that spring on how to maintain and operate them. They also taught the Ukrainians how to use them in combined arms warfare — where the tanks operate as part of a system of advancing armored forces, coordinating movements with overhead offensive fires, infantry troops and air assets. As the spring progressed and Ukraine’s highly anticipated counteroffensive stalled, shifting from tank training in Germany to getting Abrams on the battlefield was seen as an imperative to breach fortified Russian lines. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy announced on his Telegram channel in September that the Abrams had arrived in Ukraine. Since then, however, Ukraine has only employed them in a limited fashion and has not made combined arms warfare part of its operations, the defense official said. During its recent withdrawal from Avdiivka, a city in eastern Ukraine that was the focus of intense fighting for months, several tanks were lost to Russian attacks, the official said. A long delay by Congress in passing new funding for Ukraine meant its forces had to ration ammunition, and in some cases they were only able to shoot back once for every five or more times they were targeted by Russian forces. In Avdiivka, Ukrainian forces were badly outgunned and fighting back against Russian glide bombs and hunter-killer drones with whatever ammunition they had left. https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a Bradleys are doing yeoman’s work and will probably end up being far more useful to them. More maneuverable, more flexible, TOW will take out anything, and eats Russian APCs for breakfast. Bradleys and M113s is what they need. At this point they should probably just use the M1s as an emergency force. I listened to the new British defense minister a while back, and apparently it’s dawned on most that handing over a hodgepodge of NATO gear without supporting logistics or any semblance of air superiority is not going to suddenly enable successful combined arms tactics. And that’s aside from whether combined arms is even possible in a situation of air parity given the new defensive realities. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:29:42 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for April 25th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-25-2024 |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:54:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: The problem is that EVERYONE is up to their eyeballs in debt. Much of the instability in the world is due to the impending economic dislocations as China, the US, Japan, and others hit the line where the debts become unmanageable (such as US interest payments exceeding the defense budget, the liquidation of the Chinese Middle Class wealth holdings, the decline of Hong Kong, etc). If this was during a time of demographic growth, there might be a potentially palatable outcome; instead, this will likely result in the collapse of the Post Cold-War geopolitical and economic order. Everyone is jockeying for position for when the dominoes start to fall. One of the reasons for the Biden Administration "worst of both worlds" approach to Ukraine, Israel, the Border, etc. is that the so-called "US leadership" is out of ideas and has just defaulted to it's programing. All the attempts at censorship, unconstitutional acts, etc is just a bunch of scared Ivy-educated twits who are seeing what passes for their religion coming apart and doing anything they can to keep the party going a little longer. Watch for a major system crash right after the election regardless of who wins. Things will get sporty in the next few years, and we may be in the ironic position where Ukraine ends up being money well spent, since they have the potential to remove Russia as an economic threat for a generation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By JLAudio: Is this the thread that demands American taxpayers deal with the increased debt and devaluing of our money due to the inflation related to sending hundreds of billions of dollars (which used to account for the entire US budget) overseas to non-allied and foreign countries to combat The New Red Threat™ ? If so, I'm in. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/l6I8mJU__1_-92.gif The problem is that EVERYONE is up to their eyeballs in debt. Much of the instability in the world is due to the impending economic dislocations as China, the US, Japan, and others hit the line where the debts become unmanageable (such as US interest payments exceeding the defense budget, the liquidation of the Chinese Middle Class wealth holdings, the decline of Hong Kong, etc). If this was during a time of demographic growth, there might be a potentially palatable outcome; instead, this will likely result in the collapse of the Post Cold-War geopolitical and economic order. Everyone is jockeying for position for when the dominoes start to fall. One of the reasons for the Biden Administration "worst of both worlds" approach to Ukraine, Israel, the Border, etc. is that the so-called "US leadership" is out of ideas and has just defaulted to it's programing. All the attempts at censorship, unconstitutional acts, etc is just a bunch of scared Ivy-educated twits who are seeing what passes for their religion coming apart and doing anything they can to keep the party going a little longer. Watch for a major system crash right after the election regardless of who wins. Things will get sporty in the next few years, and we may be in the ironic position where Ukraine ends up being money well spent, since they have the potential to remove Russia as an economic threat for a generation. Wise words from a wise man. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:19:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: I know why. Like I said, there is already a lot of info out there about what’s happening and it’s been discussed before. Wagner offers muscle in ways the west is generally not willing to. As in, go into a rebellious town and shoot 500 people. Wagner keeps the regime safe and in power and in return they get exclusive access to their resources while denying them to the west. It’s that simple. Oh, and there’s no backing out of the arrangement. It’s completely fair to say that sahel Africa was a mess prior to Wagner and that the former colonial power (France) isn’t exactly beloved. The UN and France has had at best limited success dealing with it. Add on top of that the instability and “transactional nature” of much of the African power structure - i.e. there’s always the element of African leaders encouraging a “bidding war” for their loyalty. So the Africans are playing a game too, and I’m not trying to say that the Sahel was rainbows and unicorns and Wagner spoiled it. It’s also fair to evaluate Russian actions as naked colonialism (with anti-colonialist rhetoric) in the mold that France itself practiced until about 50-75 years ago. However, my real point is not that “Wagner is mean,” it’s that Wagner/Russia has overstepped. The smart play for Wagner was to stop before Niger. That would have improved their position significantly without encroaching on France’s critical national interests, giving France far less reason to take action. That way you maintain leverage and a threat. But they overstepped into critical French interests in an effort to leverage their energy war on Europe, giving France every reason to act against them. This was a foolish move. I have no doubt that direct or indirect action will happen when the time is right. You can even interpret (correctly, IMO) Macron’s newly-hawkish policy toward Russia as an element of indirect action. There are also as-yet unverified reports that the Ukrainians are working directly with the French in Africa laying some groundwork. Here’s some links for you. And there is far more out there. Recent BBC article. Russian uses anti-colonialist rhetoric while implementing their own colonialist policy. Wagner controls CAR through fear, violence, rape, and mass-murder. US report on Wagner in Africa including lots of hotlinks for you to follow. Article capturing the overall messiness of the general situation in sahel Africa. Good Post, thanks for the links. I spent some time reading over them before responding. I don't disagree with pretty much anything you said. But I don't think the French would be able to intervene without being perceived as oppressors by a large part of the population. So I do think it would be a massive political mistake for them. But if they decide to do it, it will be just one more front in the 3rd World War eh? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:56:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Start sinking those giant zodiacs in the med, and that invasion will stop. Hell yes. And those giant NGO funded ships that go out collecting all the aliens and bringing them to an EU shore should be commandeered to haul them all back. Anyone going out and collecting aliens and bringing them in should be charged with human trafficking. But Brussels wants them to come. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:31:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThreadKiller: Good Post, thanks for the links. I spent some time reading over them before responding. I don't disagree with pretty much anything you said. But I don't think the French would be able to intervene without being perceived as oppressors by a large part of the population. So I do think it would be a massive political mistake for them. But if they decide to do it, it will be just one more front in the 3rd World War eh? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThreadKiller: Originally Posted By Capta: I know why. Like I said, there is already a lot of info out there about what’s happening and it’s been discussed before. Wagner offers muscle in ways the west is generally not willing to. As in, go into a rebellious town and shoot 500 people. Wagner keeps the regime safe and in power and in return they get exclusive access to their resources while denying them to the west. It’s that simple. Oh, and there’s no backing out of the arrangement. It’s completely fair to say that sahel Africa was a mess prior to Wagner and that the former colonial power (France) isn’t exactly beloved. The UN and France has had at best limited success dealing with it. Add on top of that the instability and “transactional nature” of much of the African power structure - i.e. there’s always the element of African leaders encouraging a “bidding war” for their loyalty. So the Africans are playing a game too, and I’m not trying to say that the Sahel was rainbows and unicorns and Wagner spoiled it. It’s also fair to evaluate Russian actions as naked colonialism (with anti-colonialist rhetoric) in the mold that France itself practiced until about 50-75 years ago. However, my real point is not that “Wagner is mean,” it’s that Wagner/Russia has overstepped. The smart play for Wagner was to stop before Niger. That would have improved their position significantly without encroaching on France’s critical national interests, giving France far less reason to take action. That way you maintain leverage and a threat. But they overstepped into critical French interests in an effort to leverage their energy war on Europe, giving France every reason to act against them. This was a foolish move. I have no doubt that direct or indirect action will happen when the time is right. You can even interpret (correctly, IMO) Macron’s newly-hawkish policy toward Russia as an element of indirect action. There are also as-yet unverified reports that the Ukrainians are working directly with the French in Africa laying some groundwork. Here’s some links for you. And there is far more out there. Recent BBC article. Russian uses anti-colonialist rhetoric while implementing their own colonialist policy. Wagner controls CAR through fear, violence, rape, and mass-murder. US report on Wagner in Africa including lots of hotlinks for you to follow. Article capturing the overall messiness of the general situation in sahel Africa. Good Post, thanks for the links. I spent some time reading over them before responding. I don't disagree with pretty much anything you said. But I don't think the French would be able to intervene without being perceived as oppressors by a large part of the population. So I do think it would be a massive political mistake for them. But if they decide to do it, it will be just one more front in the 3rd World War eh? First, while yes France was the former colonial power and their own legacy behavior wasn’t good either, there is also much info out there that the nations that let Wagner in already regret it. I read such an article but didn’t bother posting it. So whether the French would be seen as “oppressors” is already a very relative question. Once Russia is in they aren’t leaving. They will readily commit mass murder against the locals and call it “liberation from neo-colonialist western forces”, while using their info ops in the west to spread moral relativist propaganda. Like I said, and I mean it, I’m open to evaluating the situation as a naked power play. But that works both ways. If it’s OK for Wagner to execute a neocolonialist agenda while using anti-colonialist rhetoric, while also shooting all the locals who disagree, you can hardly fault the French for (hypothetically) doing some version of the same. And yes they are fully capable of it. Which gets back to the Perun video and French defense policy. Niger supplies something like 40% of French nuclear material. This affects not only their economy, but also their nuclear deterrent force. They’re going to act. The only question is how and when. Africa is already a de facto theater of the Third World War. Most tend to blow off the energy aspects of the West/Russia confrontation compared to shit blowing up in Ukraine, but this is a huge error. Russia’s poor play of their energy card against Europe was war in all but the shooting. The move into Niger has to be seen the same way. This is a dire and intentional threat to the economic livelihood of France and by extension Europe. And, very likely, this was the end goal of Wagner’s Africa operations all along. They aren’t there for a pittance worth of gold and rare woods, or to educate Africans on the glories of the Russki Mir and its opposition to the “satannic west.”; they’re there to stand on the neck of France’s nuclear power industry and nuclear deterrent force. There is plenty of info out there to suggest that Russia (outside the Ukraine op itself) was positioning itself to hold Europe hostage using energy. Nordstream was one such vector, the French nuclear industry is another such vector. It’s not an accident. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:46:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: First, while yes France was the former colonial power and their own legacy behavior wasn’t good either, there is also much info out there that the nations that let Wagner in already regret it. I read such an article but didn’t bother posting it. So whether the French would be seen as “oppressors” is already a very relative question. Once Russia is in they aren’t leaving. They will readily commit mass murder against the locals and call it “liberation from neo-colonialist western forces”, while using their info ops in the west to spread moral relativist propaganda. Like I said, and I mean it, I’m open to evaluating the situation as a naked power play. But that works both ways. If it’s OK for Wagner to execute a neocolonialist agenda while using anti-colonialist rhetoric, while also shooting all the locals who disagree, you can hardly fault the French for (hypothetically) doing some version of the same. And yes they are fully capable of it. Which gets back to the Perun video and French defense policy. Niger supplies something like 40% of French nuclear material. This affects not only their economy, but also their nuclear deterrent force. They’re going to act. The only question is how and when. Africa is already a de facto theater of the Third World War. Most tend to blow off the energy aspects of the West/Russia confrontation compared to shit blowing up in Ukraine, but this is a huge error. Russia’s poor play of their energy card against Europe was war in all but the shooting. The move into Niger has to be seen the same way. This is a dire and intentional threat to the economic livelihood of France and by extension Europe. And, very likely, this was the end goal of Wagner’s Africa operations all along. They aren’t after a pittance worth of gold and rare woods, they’re there to stand on the neck of France’s nuclear power industry and nuclear deterrent force. There is plenty of info out there to suggest that Russia (outside the Ukraine op itself) was positioning itself to hold Europe hostage using energy. Nordstream was one such vector, the French nuclear industry is another such vector. It’s not an accident. Well we will see what the French actually do. Normally this would be a job for their foreign legion. But they were already kicked out, they were beaten at their own game. And of course we are once again caught in the aftermath. And maybe the Russians will in fact overstay their welcome so to speak. Or maybe not. Particularly if they actually live up to their commitments. This has been a trend in many countries. Many countries have put their money not on the USA and it's allies, but the Chinese and theirs. No amount of intervention is going to change that trend IMHO. You seem to still think there is a win here, but in my mind it was lost some time ago, we just didn't realize it. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:59:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThreadKiller: Well we will see what the French actually do. Normally this would be a job for their foreign legion. But they were already kicked out, they were beaten at their own game. And of course we are once again caught in the aftermath. And maybe the Russians will in fact overstay their welcome so to speak. Or maybe not. Particularly if they actually live up to their commitments. This has been a trend in many countries. Many countries have put their money not on the USA and it's allies, but the Chinese and theirs. No amount of intervention is going to change that trend IMHO. You seem to still think there is a win here, but in my mind it was lost some time ago, we just didn't realize it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThreadKiller: Originally Posted By Capta: First, while yes France was the former colonial power and their own legacy behavior wasn’t good either, there is also much info out there that the nations that let Wagner in already regret it. I read such an article but didn’t bother posting it. So whether the French would be seen as “oppressors” is already a very relative question. Once Russia is in they aren’t leaving. They will readily commit mass murder against the locals and call it “liberation from neo-colonialist western forces”, while using their info ops in the west to spread moral relativist propaganda. Like I said, and I mean it, I’m open to evaluating the situation as a naked power play. But that works both ways. If it’s OK for Wagner to execute a neocolonialist agenda while using anti-colonialist rhetoric, while also shooting all the locals who disagree, you can hardly fault the French for (hypothetically) doing some version of the same. And yes they are fully capable of it. Which gets back to the Perun video and French defense policy. Niger supplies something like 40% of French nuclear material. This affects not only their economy, but also their nuclear deterrent force. They’re going to act. The only question is how and when. Africa is already a de facto theater of the Third World War. Most tend to blow off the energy aspects of the West/Russia confrontation compared to shit blowing up in Ukraine, but this is a huge error. Russia’s poor play of their energy card against Europe was war in all but the shooting. The move into Niger has to be seen the same way. This is a dire and intentional threat to the economic livelihood of France and by extension Europe. And, very likely, this was the end goal of Wagner’s Africa operations all along. They aren’t after a pittance worth of gold and rare woods, they’re there to stand on the neck of France’s nuclear power industry and nuclear deterrent force. There is plenty of info out there to suggest that Russia (outside the Ukraine op itself) was positioning itself to hold Europe hostage using energy. Nordstream was one such vector, the French nuclear industry is another such vector. It’s not an accident. Well we will see what the French actually do. Normally this would be a job for their foreign legion. But they were already kicked out, they were beaten at their own game. And of course we are once again caught in the aftermath. And maybe the Russians will in fact overstay their welcome so to speak. Or maybe not. Particularly if they actually live up to their commitments. This has been a trend in many countries. Many countries have put their money not on the USA and it's allies, but the Chinese and theirs. No amount of intervention is going to change that trend IMHO. You seem to still think there is a win here, but in my mind it was lost some time ago, we just didn't realize it. France along with the whole west quite frankly has been operating with blinders on since the mid-90s. The Soviet threat was over, it was all going to be unicorns and skittles. Europe mostly disarmed, and Europe had its fantasy of what things should be like. France “lost” because they had been operating under 30 years of sloth and wishful thinking. Another aspect that Putin used effectively was France’s and the west’s focus on international legalisms that were meaningless to Russia. They portrayed Wagner as a non-state actor they had no control over or responsibility for. This let them get into places and do things that would’ve drawn a different response from a “state” entity. Eventually well into the Ukraine war, they acknowledged that Wagner was and had always been state sponsored. My opinion has always been that the “non-state” status let Wagner get dug in, and converting them to a “state” status lets Russia threaten escalation if there’s any response. However, since then they have also at times again denied it is state sponsored. Wagner can be one, the other, both, or neither so long as Putin believes it sows confusion and indecision in the west’s response. However, there are still ways around it. At the same time Russia (Putin) was making plans to conquer Europe. Paying off politicians, getting Europe hooked on Russian energy, playing both political sides against each other, trying to drive a wedge between the US and Europe. Based on hindsight, Putin’s direct actions in Europe started in the early 2000s if not before. A similar but not perfect analogy can be made with the start of the second world war. Japan and Germany had already made their minds up. We just didn’t believe it and found reasons not to. Japan had been effectively at war since the early 30s. So yeah, they made gains early but defeat was also baked in, because Japanese and German GDP was dwarfed by the Allies, just like Russia’s GDP is dwarfed by the west’s. Once we start getting even partly serious it’s over. And we are getting serious, but slowly. Russia is fully committed in Ukraine and their losses have been immense. They are not the USSR - they don’t have 20 divisions to drop into Africa on a whim. France, right now, is more than capable of dealing with Wagner. However, a more likely scenario is that they let Russia be ground to powder in Ukraine for another year or two. They can afford that delay. Then events start demanding the Russians pull forces for the front or for regime security - they can’t afford to be everywhere - then France uses some locals beefed up with some FFL and rolls Wagner up. Not only is it possible, I consider it certain. Russia is trying to project strength, but is actually desperately weak. There’s also the position held by some including myself that the west has been suckering Russia in, grinding them down, and that the end goal is their collapse and dismemberment. There is a lot on the table for the taking, with both the West and China positioning themselves to benefit. Think of Russia as a nice, big, juicy steak, with all its neighbors tying on napkins and sharpening knives. Various countries are selling influence to China because China has a lot of cash right now. However, it has yet to be explained what China can do if various countries take their money and then tell them to go pound sand when the chips are down. Russia, not so much. Sure, they have cash and there’s always someone for sale for cash. We also have a lot more cash. No one outside of Russia is taking bribes in roubles. Unfortunately for Russia, their best source of foreign revenue and influence outside of energy is now in the shitter and will stay there. Here’s another Perun video I highly recommend. It covers the collapse in Russian foreign military sales, and touches on all the knock-on effects that will have, since FMS were always the primary vector for Russian influence in the third world. I frankly was stunned at how bad it is.  The Collapse of Russian Arms Exports - Competitors, Ukraine & The Future of Russian Exports |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:33:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:37:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:19:14 AM EDT
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 1/n Situation update from April 25, 2024, on the 792nd day of #GuerreEnUkraine 🇷🇺 intensifies its operations around #Donetsk Combat Volume is at 97, close to a general offensive 🇷🇺 also pushes his lights (RAPFEU 11:1) before help arrives 🇺🇸 But 🇷🇺 does not break through
   
  
  
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:27:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:37:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:38:27 AM EDT
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Historian Stephen Kotkin on “The Six Futures of Russia.” Relevant presentation starts at about the 22:45 mark.
 Stephen Kotkin: Six Futures of Russia—Why We Need History (and Libraries) | LIVE from NYPL |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:40:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:46:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:54:20 AM EDT
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  A Call to Arms: Mobilizing Industry and Unlocking Innovation | GSF 2024 |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:06:06 AM EDT
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🇪🇸Spain will send Patriot missiles to Ukraine instead of the air defense system itself
The transfer of a small number of missiles with a maximum range of 24 kilometers, each unit costs more than a million euros, will take place after the refusal of the Spanish Ministry of Defense to transfer to Ukraine a battery that has been deployed on the border between Turkey and Syria since 2013. The Ministry of Defense of Spain categorically refused to hand over the Patriot battery to Ukraine. Their arguments are that these systems are supposedly the only ones effective against a missile attack – as demonstrated in the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East – and that Spain's armed forces are low in numbers. In the end, the agency said yes, but only for a "very limited number" of missiles, since Spain's military reserve is about fifty units and the interceptors are very expensive. https://t.me/newspn/90156 |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:19:53 AM EDT
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Russia has lost the Indian arms market, which it dominated for more than half a century.
The export of Russian weapons to India, the largest foreign market for the domestic military-industrial complex, fell victim to the war in Ukraine. The country, whose army the USSR practically single-handedly equipped with military equipment in the 1960s, and which Russia has provided for over the past 30 years, no longer intends to make a single major purchase from it. India, which has already become the world's largest arms importer, has allocated $100 billion for further purchases, but Russia will get little of this money, Politico reports, citing leading experts and representatives of the Indian defense industry. The war in Ukraine, Western sanctions, Indian concerns about the quality of Russian equipment, which performed so poorly in real combat conditions, Moscow’s inability to secure even already arranged supplies, as well as Delhi’s desire to develop its own defense industry - all this played a role in the decision to move to cooperation with others, primarily Western arms manufacturers. The process of breaking up cooperation has already begun. If in 2009–2013 While Russia accounted for 76% of India's arms imports, in 2019–2023, according to the Stockholm Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), only 36%. The last five-year plan was the first since 1960-1964 that Russia (or its predecessor the USSR) provided less than half of Indian purchases. India is not the only client that the Russian defense industry is losing. According to SIPRI, total Russian arms exports collapsed by 53% between 2014-2018 and 2019-2023. The process has especially accelerated in the last five-year period due to the war: if in 2019 Russia sold weapons to 31 countries, then in 2023 - only to 12. In the world ranking of arms exporters, Russia for the first time found itself in third place, behind France. https://t.me/moscowtimes_ru/21799 In Russia, the number of vacancies for disabled people has increased sharply against the backdrop of the war in Ukraine The number of vacancies for people with disabilities in Russia in the first four months of 2024 increased by 45%. In total, the number of such job offers exceeded 90.7 thousand. This follows from data from the recruiting service hh.ru, which is published by Izvestia. As the service notes, candidates with disabilities are most in demand as call center operators, couriers, sales and customer service managers, drivers, salespeople, packers, teachers, programmers and storekeepers. The estimated salary for candidates with disabilities in January-April of this year increased by 28% and the national average is just over 72 thousand rubles, calculated by hh.ru. According to the Pension and Social Insurance Fund, in 2023, 2.17 million men with disabilities aged 31 to 59 years were registered in Russia. This is a record figure for eight years. By comparison, in 2022 there were 1.67 million men with disabilities in this age category in the country. Thus, the increase over the year was 30%, or 507 thousand people. Experts directly associate the increase in the number of men with disabilities with the war in Ukraine. https://t.me/moscowtimes_ru/21807 New owners of assets of Western companies that left Russia were unable to cope with management New owners of companies bought from expatriates who are leaving the country have begun to consider reselling them as they cannot cope with KPIs (key performance indicators). This was reported by lawyers and consultants at the XIV Bond Congress of Cbonds, writes RBC. According to Kesarev Consulting partner Vitaly Zhigulin, maintaining performance indicators was one of the conditions for the government to approve the deal to buy out a business from foreigners. A number of new owners quickly realized that they could not meet this requirement and were looking for options for resale, the expert noted. Not everyone was able to integrate assets purchased from foreigners into historical technological and operational chains, which is why management efficiency fell, says Better Chance partner Bulat Zhambalnimbuev. https://t.me/moscowtimes_ru/21810 The authorities decided to recognize another non-existent movement as extremist The Russian authorities wanted to recognize the non-existent “Anti-Russian separatist movement” as extremist. The Ministry of Justice filed a corresponding claim with the Supreme Court, as follows from a message posted on the department’s website. In the document, the Ministry of Justice indicates that the “Anti-Russian separatist movement” is “international” and is aimed at “destructing the multinational unity and territorial integrity of Russia.” The department also requires “structural divisions” of the non-existent movement to be recognized as extremist. The OVD-Info project, however, found out that an organization with the name “Anti-Russian Separatist Movement” does not exist. Human rights activists from the First Department express a similar point of view. https://t.me/moscowtimes_ru/21811 |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:23:44 AM EDT
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 And they are building a huge fleet of dual use ferries and coastal trading vessels that can be used for military operations too. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:25:11 AM EDT
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WW3:
russia, china, iran, north korea, syria, iraq, yemen, lebanon, palestine, egypt, afghanistan, southern 1/3 of philippines muslim mindanao, venezuala, belarus, plus others about to jump in against... usa, england, france, germany, ukraine, poland, isreal, taiwan, japan, vietnam, south korea, northern 2/3rds of philippines, plus others. turkey, jordan, saudi arabia etc. are still contemplating changing horses mid battle pending further info. not to mention haiti, azerbaijan, myanmar civil wars. who all did i forget? balkans? its almost like wars and rumors of wars are about to unfold in Biblical proportions yet those who are still unaffected either havent noticed or barely noticed. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:28:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGbtlKKWIAEwrCo?format=png&name=small And they are building a huge fleet of dual use ferries and coastal trading vessels that can be used for military operations too. So that's what these low cost guided bombs are for.  QUICKSINK Destroys Ship |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:38:21 AM EDT
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I had long advocated for the use of ARAT tiles on the top surfaces of the Abrams in Ukraine, it would certainly make it more immune to the Russian drone threat.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:39:39 AM EDT
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