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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:12:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Agilt: Didn't he just start down here within the last year or so? If so, 130k out of school even with a masters is exceptional, congrats on him doing well. Not to mention having 100K's in retirement in your twenties. There's STEM fields like that. Geology isn't one of them.  |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:15:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: There's STEM fields like that. Geology isn't one of them. 
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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:18:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Avocado toast? Never heard of it. Boomers love to talk about it though.  |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:22:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: It’s delicious, just don’t get hooked on it. Personally, I have them hold the avocado but it’s still good. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18716/IMG_5204-3095881.jpg I’ll pass on it. I barely got money for regular toast, much les avocado shit. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:22:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Agilt: Didn't he just start down here within the last year or so? If so, 130k out of school even with a masters is exceptional, congrats on him doing well. Not to mention having 100K's in retirement in your twenties. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Agilt: Originally Posted By fxntime: Son is doing pretty well as a milli vanilli, mid 130's, just had an offer for 150 or so but he is working on some stuff he wants his name on where he as at and he gets pretty good bonuses. Downside is housing is stupid priced and property taxes even worse. No debt, masters, hundreds of K into retirement and investment funds already, some are readily available [not the retirement stuff] so if he does decide to buy, he will have cash. He's done pretty good for himself and I'm very happy, not a much better feeling then to see your kids doing more then just survive financially nowadays. Didn't he just start down here within the last year or so? If so, 130k out of school even with a masters is exceptional, congrats on him doing well. Not to mention having 100K's in retirement in your twenties. Early 30's but yes, he hasn't been down there all that long. He likes the place and work but the temps, ehhhh, not so much. They seen to have treated him pretty well. He does seem to have the ''move for more'' mentality of the younger generation but he's learning to temper that some as one has to figure out local cost of living rates before you can call it a financially upward move. He had offers for far more in the Boston area but once he checked the COL around there, he would have lost money. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:47:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: There's STEM fields like that. Geology isn't one of them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Originally Posted By Agilt: Didn't he just start down here within the last year or so? If so, 130k out of school even with a masters is exceptional, congrats on him doing well. Not to mention having 100K's in retirement in your twenties. There's STEM fields like that. Geology isn't one of them. That’s not very gneiss thing to sieve.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Denwad: I'm 34 and I don't see a future either , and I'm pretty set. I fear for my daughter, her siblings and their future kids. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 6:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: Which is the point when anecdotes are being generalized to an entire field or industry. One reason so many are out of touch. I’m sitting in my office today working on a paper for the Board of Directors. I’ll likely be here all weekend. Taking breaks is good because it lets my mind refresh. You know who loves free shit? Boomers. Look at the increase in $0 Medicare Advantage plans and all the supplemental benefits added. With the Part A trust being drawn down, fun times are coming because the bill will come due. One way or another, it will be paid. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: Originally Posted By Agilt: BOOTSTRAPS! Indeed, it is totally reasonable for someone living outside of Dumas, TX to commute to Mont Belvieu just down the road a piece for some more money. Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Some days I'm very, very busy. Wont post on arf. no reading, no streaming anime, barely have time to microwave a meal. When 12 hours is over I take a shower and go straight to sleep. I've had rig hands tell me I'm an idiot for agreeing to work like that for what we get paid per hour. Today...I'm looking out my lab window at a rig that is not going to do anything that requires new action from me for at least another 12 hours. I have some paperwork to do, but not enough that I can't...take a break here and there. Originally Posted By BillofRights: The side that promises MORE FREE SHIT. We, the People, Love Free Shit. I wish the Republicans would promise Free Abortions, Free Weed, Free Stimmy Checks, Free Porn, Free UBI, Free Immigration, Free Housing Free Education and Free Cars. Take control of every branch, and then simply renege and fire every anti-Constitution bureaucrat in Government service. Investigate the Media and every other anti American institution. Clean house. Beat the Democrats at their own game. They have to do something, because playing by the Queens rules is a losing game. You know who loves free shit? Boomers. Look at the increase in $0 Medicare Advantage plans and all the supplemental benefits added. With the Part A trust being drawn down, fun times are coming because the bill will come due. One way or another, it will be paid. 1 dollar in 3 of US government expenditures is a direct handout to the elderly. Sum up Social Security, Medicare, and the portion of Medicaid dealing with long-term care and see if you come up with different numbers. It can't possibly last. And when their numbers decrease to electorial insignificance, it won't. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 6:29:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: $10/hr was pretty good starting pay in 2000. Sounds like your best friend has a terrible attitude. My issue is not with being polite, punctual, and detail oriented. I do these things every day. They are part of the reason I'm one of the last people still working where I'm working as opposed to laid off or fired. My issue is with the idea that that's all you gotta do. There is so much other stuff you have to do. Another issue I have is the idea that "you just gotta be your own boss". What are we taking that to be the minimum criteria for? Is this going to be the minimum criteria to be able to afford to have a family? (That's where we are headed) Not everyone has the aptitude for running a business. Yeah, its cool that you have the aptitude for that, congrats. What about the 70 employees you have? How many of them do you pay enough that any living situation besides living with their parents or splitting a 2 bdr/1bth apartment with another childless bachelor isn't a profoundly stupid and irresponsible idea? BTW, depending on location, in 2024 dollars the threshold for that somewhere around $80k. In some places its well over $100k. Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 6:50:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackTaco: Thx! I did, and had absolutely horrific nightmares - woke up screaming. I’m using the $10.00 bottle Amazon Sleep Aid. I take half a pill every night with a glass of whiskey - it does the trick with no side effects. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackTaco: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Try just Melatonin. No booze. 5 or 10 mg. Thx! I did, and had absolutely horrific nightmares - woke up screaming. I’m using the $10.00 bottle Amazon Sleep Aid. I take half a pill every night with a glass of whiskey - it does the trick with no side effects. Lolz. I had vivid dreams at first. 5 mg is plenty, or maybe try half that. Give it another shot, without alcohol. It’s actually good for you. The gummies work best.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 6:53:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Lolz. I had vivid dreams at first. 5 mg is plenty, or maybe try half that. Give it another shot, without alcohol. It’s actually good for you. The gummies work best.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By BlackTaco: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Try just Melatonin. No booze. 5 or 10 mg. Thx! I did, and had absolutely horrific nightmares - woke up screaming. I’m using the $10.00 bottle Amazon Sleep Aid. I take half a pill every night with a glass of whiskey - it does the trick with no side effects. Lolz. I had vivid dreams at first. 5 mg is plenty, or maybe try half that. Give it another shot, without alcohol. It’s actually good for you. The gummies work best.1/4 of 1 5mg pill for me is more than sufficient. I want to say it's also in the stack for those "recovering from long covid" protocols. Add 1 magnesium supplement and away I go. Definitely use ~90 minutes or more before sleeping, and it may take awhile to get up in the morning at first. Especially if you take the entire pill. Plus the Dream Theater side effects as earlier stated. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 7:01:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: $10/hr was pretty good starting pay in 2000. Sounds like your best friend has a terrible attitude. My issue is not with being polite, punctual, and detail oriented. I do these things every day. They are part of the reason I'm one of the last people still working where I'm working as opposed to laid off or fired. My issue is with the idea that that's all you gotta do. There is so much other stuff you have to do. Another issue I have is the idea that "you just gotta be your own boss". What are we taking that to be the minimum criteria for? Is this going to be the minimum criteria to be able to afford to have a family? (That's where we are headed) Not everyone has the aptitude for running a business. Yeah, its cool that you have the aptitude for that, congrats. What about the 70 employees you have? How many of them do you pay enough that any living situation besides living with their parents or splitting a 2 bdr/1bth apartment with another childless bachelor isn't a profoundly stupid and irresponsible idea? BTW, depending on location, in 2024 dollars the threshold for that somewhere around $80k. In some places its well over $100k. Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. This is priceless advice. Somebody with an entrepreneurial attitude can make millions and go broke and make millions again, in the time it takes a mediocre wage slave to go nowhere. Otoh, I watched my dad try to run a business and knew I didn’t have what it takes, so I went after a high paying W2 job which fit the criteria of what I wanted out of life. Either way, the key is to Decide on a Goal. Plan the strategy. And Execute the plan letting Nothing stand in your way. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 7:05:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: $10/hr was pretty good starting pay in 2000. Sounds like your best friend has a terrible attitude. My issue is not with being polite, punctual, and detail oriented. I do these things every day. They are part of the reason I'm one of the last people still working where I'm working as opposed to laid off or fired. My issue is with the idea that that's all you gotta do. There is so much other stuff you have to do. Another issue I have is the idea that "you just gotta be your own boss". What are we taking that to be the minimum criteria for? Is this going to be the minimum criteria to be able to afford to have a family? (That's where we are headed) Not everyone has the aptitude for running a business. Yeah, its cool that you have the aptitude for that, congrats. What about the 70 employees you have? How many of them do you pay enough that any living situation besides living with their parents or splitting a 2 bdr/1bth apartment with another childless bachelor isn't a profoundly stupid and irresponsible idea? BTW, depending on location, in 2024 dollars the threshold for that somewhere around $80k. In some places its well over $100k. Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. How much PPP loan money did you take? |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 7:22:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. If the kind of money I need to make to not run in the red (not very much, actually) is "ownership money" and everyone on a W2 is just going to get less than that, well, we really are in a lot of trouble. We aren't there yet, but not long after every country has gotten there since the industrial revolution, people like you get herded into ditches. I won't be doing the herding, as I have contempt for the people that will be doing it like you wouldn't believe, but your attitude isn't giving me any incentive to do anything about it either. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 7:25:13 PM EDT
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The ones who vote for Democrats have no right to complain.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:02:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BillofRights]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: If the kind of money I need to make to not run in the red (not very much, actually) is "ownership money" and everyone on a W2 is just going to get less than that, well, we really are in a lot of trouble. We aren't there yet, but not long after every country has gotten there since the industrial revolution, people like you get herded into ditches. I won't be doing the herding, as I have contempt for the people that will be doing it like you wouldn't believe, but your attitude isn't giving me any incentive to do anything about it either. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. If the kind of money I need to make to not run in the red (not very much, actually) is "ownership money" and everyone on a W2 is just going to get less than that, well, we really are in a lot of trouble. We aren't there yet, but not long after every country has gotten there since the industrial revolution, people like you get herded into ditches. I won't be doing the herding, as I have contempt for the people that will be doing it like you wouldn't believe, but your attitude isn't giving me any incentive to do anything about it either. That’s about the dumbest, weakest, and most irrational response ever. If you’re looking forward to a communist revolution, and you aren’t planning on fighting against it, what does that make you?. You’ve been entirely co-opted and ruined by your Millennial meme culture. It replaced common sense and rational thinking. Members were earnestly trying to help you. You could have chosen quiet introspection, or you could have simply ignored them. Instead, you chose to get drunk or stoned, and conjure up your legions of fantasy communists, to future kill the rich. (Something You would never actively do of course). Well, thanks for the brutal honesty. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:06:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: I’ll pass on it. I barely got money for regular toast, much les avocado shit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By KILLERB6: It’s delicious, just don’t get hooked on it. Personally, I have them hold the avocado but it’s still good. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18716/IMG_5204-3095881.jpg I’ll pass on it. I barely got money for regular toast, much les avocado shit. Skip the toast. Split the avacado, remove seed, use 1-2 fast food packets of salt that you've had in your drawer for 3 years. Enjoy. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:09:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: Skip the toast. Split the avacado, remove seed, use 1-2 fast food packets of salt that you've had in your drawer for 3 years. Enjoy. I don’t have money for avocados lol. Plus eggs and toast are meant to go with each other for breakfast. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:13:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: How much PPP loan money did you take? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: $10/hr was pretty good starting pay in 2000. Sounds like your best friend has a terrible attitude. My issue is not with being polite, punctual, and detail oriented. I do these things every day. They are part of the reason I'm one of the last people still working where I'm working as opposed to laid off or fired. My issue is with the idea that that's all you gotta do. There is so much other stuff you have to do. Another issue I have is the idea that "you just gotta be your own boss". What are we taking that to be the minimum criteria for? Is this going to be the minimum criteria to be able to afford to have a family? (That's where we are headed) Not everyone has the aptitude for running a business. Yeah, its cool that you have the aptitude for that, congrats. What about the 70 employees you have? How many of them do you pay enough that any living situation besides living with their parents or splitting a 2 bdr/1bth apartment with another childless bachelor isn't a profoundly stupid and irresponsible idea? BTW, depending on location, in 2024 dollars the threshold for that somewhere around $80k. In some places its well over $100k. Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. How much PPP loan money did you take? "That was never meant to be paid back!!" At this point, I'm simply enjoying the decline. Got a long way before we hit South Africa levels of dystopia. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:14:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: I don’t have money for avocados lol. Plus eggs and toast are meant to go with each other for breakfast. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By Scalped: Skip the toast. Split the avacado, remove seed, use 1-2 fast food packets of salt that you've had in your drawer for 3 years. Enjoy. I don’t have money for avocados lol. Plus eggs and toast are meant to go with each other for breakfast. I feel your pain amigo. At $.89/each, when they're on sale, they're a luxury. I just traded my 20 year old water heater for a dozen of fresh brown eggs from nearby Messican though
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: That’s about the dumbest response imaginable. If you’re looking forward to a communist revolution, and you aren’t planning on fighting against it, what does that make you?. You’ve been entirely co-opted and ruined by your Millennial meme culture. It replaced common sense. Need to get some work done, Placeholder for later. I never said I was looking forward to anything, I just have an understanding of how things happen and what motivates the people that do things. So what does that make me? A consoomer of the popcorn industrial complex. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:18:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: I never said I was looking forward to anything, I just have an understanding of how things happen and what motivates the people that do things. So what does that make me? A consoomer of the popcorn industrial complex. The popcorn industrial complex is the best.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:19:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: I feel your pain amigo. At $.89/each, when they're on sale, they're a luxury. I just traded my 20 year old water heater for a dozen of fresh brown eggs from nearby Messican though Farm fresh eggs are the best. Told my wife we will have chickens if we ever own a home. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:23:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: The popcorn industrial complex is the best. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/CD5B1B69-9216-403B-9358-C05A3A07987F-482.gif Hey! That's a picture of me watching people I don't like do war crimes to each other! |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Hey! That's a picture of me watching people I don't like do war crimes to each other! Scooter army vs blue hair redditors, who will win? |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:29:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: exponentialpi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: "That was never meant to be paid back!!" At this point, I'm simply enjoying the decline. Got a long way before we hit South Africa levels of dystopia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: Originally Posted By exponentialpi: Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: $10/hr was pretty good starting pay in 2000. Sounds like your best friend has a terrible attitude. My issue is not with being polite, punctual, and detail oriented. I do these things every day. They are part of the reason I'm one of the last people still working where I'm working as opposed to laid off or fired. My issue is with the idea that that's all you gotta do. There is so much other stuff you have to do. Another issue I have is the idea that "you just gotta be your own boss". What are we taking that to be the minimum criteria for? Is this going to be the minimum criteria to be able to afford to have a family? (That's where we are headed) Not everyone has the aptitude for running a business. Yeah, its cool that you have the aptitude for that, congrats. What about the 70 employees you have? How many of them do you pay enough that any living situation besides living with their parents or splitting a 2 bdr/1bth apartment with another childless bachelor isn't a profoundly stupid and irresponsible idea? BTW, depending on location, in 2024 dollars the threshold for that somewhere around $80k. In some places its well over $100k. Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. How much PPP loan money did you take? "That was never meant to be paid back!!" At this point, I'm simply enjoying the decline. Got a long way before we hit South Africa levels of dystopia. Hemingway wrote it best. “How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.” |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:30:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Yet they continue to vote Democrat.  The winning post! |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:53:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: So what does that make me? Two things: Helpless & Hopeless. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:05:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: I don’t have money for avocados lol. Plus eggs and toast are meant to go with each other for breakfast. Grow them. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:06:37 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: "That was never meant to be paid back!!" At this point, I'm simply enjoying the decline. Got a long way before we hit South Africa levels of dystopia. Dammit. You're saying I don't get to be warlord? |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:07:14 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Scooter army vs blue hair redditors, who will win? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Hey! That's a picture of me watching people I don't like do war crimes to each other! Scooter army vs blue hair redditors, who will win? Everyone else |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:07:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: Hemingway wrote it best. Suddenly can appear quicker than we think. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: Originally Posted By Wineraner: Originally Posted By exponentialpi: Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: $10/hr was pretty good starting pay in 2000. Sounds like your best friend has a terrible attitude. My issue is not with being polite, punctual, and detail oriented. I do these things every day. They are part of the reason I'm one of the last people still working where I'm working as opposed to laid off or fired. My issue is with the idea that that's all you gotta do. There is so much other stuff you have to do. Another issue I have is the idea that "you just gotta be your own boss". What are we taking that to be the minimum criteria for? Is this going to be the minimum criteria to be able to afford to have a family? (That's where we are headed) Not everyone has the aptitude for running a business. Yeah, its cool that you have the aptitude for that, congrats. What about the 70 employees you have? How many of them do you pay enough that any living situation besides living with their parents or splitting a 2 bdr/1bth apartment with another childless bachelor isn't a profoundly stupid and irresponsible idea? BTW, depending on location, in 2024 dollars the threshold for that somewhere around $80k. In some places its well over $100k. Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. How much PPP loan money did you take? "That was never meant to be paid back!!" At this point, I'm simply enjoying the decline. Got a long way before we hit South Africa levels of dystopia. Hemingway wrote it best. “How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.” 90% dead in one unannounced persistent nationwide power outage. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:13:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: Hemingway wrote it best. Suddenly can appear quicker than we think. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: Originally Posted By Wineraner: Originally Posted By exponentialpi: Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: $10/hr was pretty good starting pay in 2000. Sounds like your best friend has a terrible attitude. My issue is not with being polite, punctual, and detail oriented. I do these things every day. They are part of the reason I'm one of the last people still working where I'm working as opposed to laid off or fired. My issue is with the idea that that's all you gotta do. There is so much other stuff you have to do. Another issue I have is the idea that "you just gotta be your own boss". What are we taking that to be the minimum criteria for? Is this going to be the minimum criteria to be able to afford to have a family? (That's where we are headed) Not everyone has the aptitude for running a business. Yeah, its cool that you have the aptitude for that, congrats. What about the 70 employees you have? How many of them do you pay enough that any living situation besides living with their parents or splitting a 2 bdr/1bth apartment with another childless bachelor isn't a profoundly stupid and irresponsible idea? BTW, depending on location, in 2024 dollars the threshold for that somewhere around $80k. In some places its well over $100k. Tell me you have a W2 mentality without telling me. Your posts just absolutely wreak of it. I don't think there is any advice that can be given to you that wouldn't illicit a snarky internet response, because you AREN'T willing to do what it takes to succeed on your own. I don't really know how to explain it, you're stuck on pay rates and this and that, such a W2 mentality. If you really had what it takes you would already be thinking about markup, profit margins, employee outputs, overhead, startup costs, etc. But you're not. You don't have "it" and nobody can teach you that. Your problem is you want to make ownership type money but you don't have the mindset or attitude for it. So you blame, that's all you're doing, you're blaming me, the system, the politics, the economics, the boomers, etc. They are all excuses, that's it. You take my advice and attempt to break it down into a simplistic (snarky) analysis to discount the points I've made because you're just pissed off at the world. Yea, the world sucks, Biden sucks, but if I let that influence my life my business wouldn't have grown 40% since the 2020 election. Attitude is important, and I'm afraid you just don't have the right one, so just rage like you want to. And before you say "ok boomer," I'm a millenial, and I don't blame or make excuses. How much PPP loan money did you take? "That was never meant to be paid back!!" At this point, I'm simply enjoying the decline. Got a long way before we hit South Africa levels of dystopia. Hemingway wrote it best. “How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.” I have to find that copy of, I think it was Hackett's (sp?) The Third World War, with the brief anecdote of the German seer in 1919 being asked his visions for the next 10, 20, 30, and 50 years...with the result that he got locked up for being obviously insane... But yeah, shit can change fast. Ask a French courtier of XVI's court in 1785 how secure things were. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:15:03 PM EDT
[#34]
There is no future.
It is not about power or money, it is about depopulation |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:18:36 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Dammit. You're saying I don't get to be warlord? Be the change you wish to see in the World! Who am I to put blinders on your dreams? I'd sooner shackle Harrison Bergeron. Knowing what I've read from you, you know it'll take more than an ammo fort and muh second amendment to make it happen. Blithely writing off 90% of the populace from the American Dream isn't likely to end well, is all many of us are saying. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:20:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Grow them. But I don’t want them? |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:22:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HDSledge]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Depends. Some of my generation fits the typical GD assumption of what a Gen Z is. Some don’t. Me and my friends think things suck right now, but we know we’ve got to make shit work somehow. That being said, 10 out of 10 would not recommend trying to get a good life started right now. Well that sort of changes my mind about how worthless Gen Z is. But I think your 10 out of 10 are wrong on not starting to work on a good life. You don't have that much time left before things get really bad. Do it and tell your friends to get on the stick now before it's too late. Waiting until things get better won't work. Get going and make your life the best it can be. Good luck. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:25:21 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: Be the change you wish to see in the World! Who am I to put blinders on your dreams? I'd sooner shackle Harrison Bergeron. Knowing what I've read from you, you know it'll take more than an ammo fort and muh second amendment to make it happen. Blithely writing off 90% of the populace from the American Dream isn't likely to end well, is all many of us are saying. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Dammit. You're saying I don't get to be warlord? Be the change you wish to see in the World! Who am I to put blinders on your dreams? I'd sooner shackle Harrison Bergeron. Knowing what I've read from you, you know it'll take more than an ammo fort and muh second amendment to make it happen. Blithely writing off 90% of the populace from the American Dream isn't likely to end well, is all many of us are saying. Well duh, it takes tshirts and 5.11 pants too. 
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:27:20 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: But I don’t want them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Grow them. But I don’t want them? Wagie mindset. You can sell them for money to people who do and supply is getting constrained as the cartel moves in on the industry. 150% profit YoY EBIDTA (once the tree is established with a 10 year ROI) |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:34:07 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: Hemingway wrote it best. Suddenly can appear quicker than we think. I believe a year from now interest becomes the largest government outlay. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:41:40 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDSledge: Well that sort of changes my mind about how worthless Gen Z is. But I think your 10 out of 10 are wrong on not starting to work on a good life. You don't have that much time left before things get really bad. Do it and tell your friends to get on the stick now before it's too late. Waiting until things get better won't work. Get going and make your life the best it can be. Good luck. I think you misunderstood what I said. We all think shit sucks right now, but that isn’t stopping us from moving forward. I landed a job with a Fortune 200 company recently, one friend purchased a home, albeit overpriced, and the rest are pushing into their specific fields. All while married and most of them with kids. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:53:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wookie1562: I believe a year from now interest becomes the largest government outlay. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wookie1562: Originally Posted By exponentialpi: Hemingway wrote it best. Suddenly can appear quicker than we think. I believe a year from now interest becomes the largest government outlay. The pied piper is coming to town. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:09:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: 20k is what I have. Less than ideal but not as much as other people. It’ll be paid off within my first year of working. And the rest has been self funded, my parents kicked me out at 18, haven’t given me a dime financially. The trades were an option for me, but once I got married and we started talking kids, I decided against it. Not putting them through my childhood. Good job,ur gonna be fine . |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:14:26 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gmtech: Refrigeration technician Lineman Heavy equipment mechanic Electrician Plumber Equipment operator Elevator mechanic Roughneck I know young guys in everyone of those trades all making over 150k, some a lot more . I could go on and on hell, I know a dent removal guy making 200k a year . In the trades you gota work hard and make hay when the sun shines but there's usually no college debt for a useless degree that tops out at 80k . Virtually all the trades are in a vacuume with two new guys for every 5 retiring. For every 1 of those trades guys making $130k-$200k, there's 10 making $40k. It's also funny that you think everyone with a "useless degree" tops out at $80k. 
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:16:28 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: I asked you a very specific question. You made a claim that sounds kinda sus but could actually be beneficial to acquaintances of mine if its true (especially the $150k part, that would be a really nice raise). If you do, in fact, know of a company that is hiring instead of laying off, there are some good roughnecks Im acquainted with that would appreciate the lead, on account of how they just got laid off. Or you can keep it a secret. I'm sure they will be fine. I also know how to do the math for overtime on hitch scheduling in the oilfield just fine. Thanks. I didn't put it out as a job lead. I put it out as a job example. Trying to be contrary to make a point is not becoming. And yes the OT adds up for that kid but he's a worker, not a whiner . |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:21:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: My favorite genre of boomer is the ones that will just pull shit out of their ass, trying to talk down to you about something you actually know about, and then when you ask them questions you already know the answer to, giving every hint possible that they are bullshitting the wrong guy, they just keep doubling down. I don't know why I find it as funny as I do, probably not a healthy humor to indulge in. I don't need to prove anything to some fucking stranger on ARF and I really don't give two shits if you believe me or not . |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:28:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Its_Raining_Lead]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: There's STEM fields like that. Geology isn't one of them. Geology is feast or famine, and highly cyclical on top of that. It's a really tough field in the down years, and even when times are decent - if industry is consolidating, like it is now, forget about it. There are the 1% of geologists that can make some serious money through a obscure combination of skill, luck, connections and opportunity. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:31:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gmtech]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SparticleBrane: For every 1 of those trades guys making $130k-$200k, there's 10 making $40k. It's also funny that you think everyone with a "useless degree" tops out at $80k. Oh.... what are " useless" degrees paying these days ? Most of those guys far exceed 150k and they do it a lot faster than most college kids do , without the debt . I don't know where ur getting 40k . No professional I know is anywhere near that low in any of the trades I mentioned . As a mechanic I did 180k the first six months of last year and in 22 my W4 was 306k . I've been in the trades for 40 fucking years , so ur snarky fucking opinion doesn't mean shit . |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:35:53 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gmtech: Oh.... what are " useless" degrees paying these days ? https://www.aplu.org/our-work/4-policy-and-advocacy/publicuvalues/employment-earnings/  |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:39:24 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Its_Raining_Lead: Geology is feast or famine, and highly cyclical on top of that. It's a really tough field in the down years, and even when times are decent - if industry is consolidating, like it is now, forget about it. There are the 1% of geologists that can make some serious money through a obscure combination of skill, luck, connections and opportunity. South Park is a documentary that touches on the ups and downs of the field of Geology.
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