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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:21:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: No idea. I start middle of May, but fuck it if they do I don't have to drive 45 minutes to the nearest Walmart. 
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:22:05 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Underaid702: fuck em... its probably cause they expect everything to be handed to them..  |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:23:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KILLERB6]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skunkeye: I find this hard to believe. Between Only Fans and Bitcoin ranching I think all youngsters are millionaire influencers parlaying Tik Tok into crowd funded Venmo Tiny house mansions. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:26:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: Just like everything was handed to the boomers and they pissed it away.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:27:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: i want to live in an amish community and shop at the company store.  Sixteen Tons | Tennessee Ernie Ford | Oct 18, 1956 Oh, wait! There were DOOMERS! even back then! |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:31:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NDHojo: Not necessarily doom. People are greatly concerned. How is that doom ? How many setbacks could you endure before you'd be damn wtf happened ? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NDHojo: Originally Posted By cavedog: Not all of them. Some are determined to make a life for themselves. Thread is doom porn, and the doomers will be flagellating up and down this mother. Not necessarily doom. People are greatly concerned. How is that doom ? How many setbacks could you endure before you'd be damn wtf happened ? My life, like a lot of 65+ folks, reads like a Greek tragedy. I've had a few WTF moments, but I can't keep looking back. I have to look forward, and that means not letting the assholes have the satisfaction of making me give up. "Of course the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you--if you don't play, you can't win." -RAH |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:31:04 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By @GBOOT99 : Also 34, not quite set, but decent. Absolutely no future if this economy is the new normal. It makes me mad everyday.  |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:31:26 PM EDT
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I’m 33 and started my own business when I was 17.
I have bought and sold over 10 of them to this point You can do it too, but I spent many years not taking any more money than I needed to survive. While everyone was in college I was working 14 hours a day 7 days a week. While people were partying and getting their first jobs after college, I was working. The dream is there, but it’s the ones that go and live that dream that are the difference between just a dream vs reality. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:32:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: Because back in the day there really was a company store and things were easy.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1980WfKC0oOh, wait! There were DOOMERS! even back then! |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Oceans87: Yep, they will willingly and happily sign up for the communist housing and universal income plans. One would have though everyone would have learned/is learning an important lesson from that debacle. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:32:58 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: LOL GD doesn't see a future. Being a doomer is nothing new. This. Who would expect that a relentless stream of doom porn from all sides might sour visions of the future? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:34:34 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dboy11: I'm 33 and started my own business when I was 17. I have bought and sold over 10 of them to this point You can do it too, but I spent many years not taking any more money than I needed to survive. While everyone was in college I was working 14 hours a day 7 days a week. While people were partying and getting their first jobs after college, I was working. The dream is there, but it's the ones that go and live that dream that are the difference between just a dream vs reality.  |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:35:07 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: And universal healthcare don't forget that. One would have though everyone would have learned/is learning an important lesson from that debacle. lucky.gif |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:47:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lexington: They need to realize it takes a long time for one's assets to hit the upward bend of the exponential curve. If they start young, it happens later in life and then they will experience real wealth appreciation. The first 20 years appears almost linear with a low slope upwards. It really does sneak up on you. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:56:16 PM EDT
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The greatest generation is living a lot longer than they ever hoped for. My dad inherited his farm when he was 36. His mother was 65. Dad will be 100 on June first. I am 71 and my sister is 70. BTW, all five of our kids earn more than we did at their age. All own houses too.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:56:44 PM EDT
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Say what you want, the young vote too. If the majority of them see no way forward how do you think they will vote? That's why socialism, or outright communism are popular in countries with basically two tiers, rich and poor. Take away opportunities, real or perceived, from the young what do you expect.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:01:44 PM EDT
[#17]
Can you blame them? This country is fucking gay.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:01:50 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Yet they continue to vote Democrat.  I think I run into more Gen Z kids that are based as fuck than I do adults from any generation. |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:02:58 PM EDT
[#19]
The cognitive dissonance:
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:03:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arfreak223: The cognitive dissonance: https://i.postimg.cc/Xq2HrX38/GD-Boomers.jpg |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:12:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad2006z71: This. 41. I think I might make a little more than both my parents when they were working but that ain't saying much for a HS diploma only. Only thing I can do, is make sure my kids get a degree in something like engineering and try to teach them good finances that I was never taught. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad2006z71: Originally Posted By wrc777: Originally Posted By Denwad: I'm 34 and I don't see a future either , and I'm pretty set. I fear for my daughter, her siblings and their future kids. I am 47 and right there with you. This. 41. I think I might make a little more than both my parents when they were working but that ain't saying much for a HS diploma only. Only thing I can do, is make sure my kids get a degree in something like engineering and try to teach them good finances that I was never taught. Well I have that engineering degree and make pretty good money at the moment. The problem is if I lose my job I am probably looking at a 30% pay cut to stay in this area and not have to lose my 2020 home loan interest rate. My company is slowly moving manufacturing to Mexico. They are also quoting new business out of our Mexico plant while saying they plan to keep the US one open. What they say and what they do don’t add up. There is a reckoning coming in the country. My car insurance is up 30% in a year with no tickets, accidents, or new cars. The 3-4% inflation they are claiming is obvious BS. I think my salary has lost pace with inflation ever year since at least 2020 and probably further back than that. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:15:01 PM EDT
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They were sold efficiency and entertainment. What they need is humanity and purpose.
We need a spiritual revival in this country and return to classical education. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:19:46 PM EDT
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Demoralization is all part of the "plan":
 Former KGB Agent, Yuri Bezmenov, Warns America About Socialist Subversion Me? I can't wait so I can say "No":  IMAX. Rorschach: And I'll whisper, "No" | Watchmen [+Subtitles] |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:24:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dboy11: I’m 33 and started my own business when I was 17. I have bought and sold over 10 of them to this point You can do it too, but I spent many years not taking any more money than I needed to survive. While everyone was in college I was working 14 hours a day 7 days a week. While people were partying and getting their first jobs after college, I was working. The dream is there, but it’s the ones that go and live that dream that are the difference between just a dream vs reality. And you wouldn’t have started any of them, if you didn’t think success was possible. There’s so much negativity here. I need to start another thread about success. I’ve come to realize, the secret is Optimism. Could be naive optimism. Could be foolish. But simple Optimism is what’s needed to get off one’s ass and make a dream reality. And then brains, motivation and energy. And perseverance. But optimism gets you started, and optimism sees it through. The people who succeed are sunny eyed optimists, who are also clear eyed realists who can identify and mitigate real threats and dangers. Not many people have those dual qualities. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:25:36 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dboy11: I’m 33 and started my own business when I was 17. I have bought and sold over 10 of them to this point You can do it too, but I spent many years not taking any more money than I needed to survive. While everyone was in college I was working 14 hours a day 7 days a week. While people were partying and getting their first jobs after college, I was working. The dream is there, but it’s the ones that go and live that dream that are the difference between just a dream vs reality. Lawn care land scraping plowing ? I know kid that started a small one just him and his younger brother now has some really big accounts with crew probably of 50 or more guys through out the state . |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: This is absolutely true. It really does sneak up on you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: Originally Posted By Lexington: They need to realize it takes a long time for one's assets to hit the upward bend of the exponential curve. If they start young, it happens later in life and then they will experience real wealth appreciation. The first 20 years appears almost linear with a low slope upwards. It really does sneak up on you. “The First million is the hardest”. It’s true. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:27:34 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Yet they continue to vote Democrat. 3rd post nailed it |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:27:54 PM EDT
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They are definitely fucked, just not for the reasons they think.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:29:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arfreak223: The cognitive dissonance: https://i.postimg.cc/Xq2HrX38/GD-Boomers.jpg That’s cute, but both buttons happen to be true. Mash them BOTH! |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:29:05 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cavedog: Not all of them. Some are determined to make a life for themselves. Thread is doom porn, and the doomers will be flagellating up and down this mother. This. You have to make your future. Provide an in demand product or service and you can build a great future. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:31:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lorax: I'm reluctant to even post on this. I'm gen X and had nothing ever handed to me. My first home was $97k at 6.25%. I was making about $8.75 an hour in 1992. Yes, I also had school loans. I was working 3 jobs 7 days a week to afford it. I've seen market downturns, economic crisis, stock slumps, high gas prices, etc. I have lived in my truck under an uninsulated borrowed camper shell on the edge of a swamp. I saw what needed to be done and set out to doing it the best I could in a place where wages and opportunities were little to none. Sure....some had it easier, but it's never the same for everyone everywhere. I'm sure many X'ers have similar stories, and many that don't. I don't know how kids (Gen Z) could get ahead, but there's a path. It's just not the one they want to take. They say they have the edge because of being raised on computers. They make fun of the Boomers for not embracing and growing with the tech (which many of them could easily had done if they tried to keep up) A lot of them, not all, but many claim that they are so smart because of the information available to them at their fingertips, yet can't seem to figure out why they have no money. Most don't want physical jobs for the most part. I know some young guys in the trades just crushing it. I had all the worst jobs one could ever have. Both physical and disgusting. Most have a hard on for the "unfair and barbaric" 40 hour work week. Most have fell for the "The rich don't pay their fair share", but can't ever say what amount that share should be. Because the Democrats just have them repeating and believing it. Dining out and having meals dropped off to them, along with not sacking a lunch and sucking on $5 energy drinks and coffees is killing them. Look at their life goals. Many just want to make videos or be "influencers". Just like pro ball players, not everyone who picks up a ball is going to make it. And yes.....everything is just more expensive. And that sucks for everybody. And the price on everything keeps going up. They are angry, but for the most part just giving up because they have come to the conclusion that everyone had it easier and why even try. I see many that could make their situations better if they would focus on themselves instead of everyone else. With a few simple tweaks to their lifestyle, they can see instant improvement. And then build on that. Millenials are in their 40's now and sacked with mortgages, car payments and are just now getting into their bigger $ years in their careers (which I never had )They are struggling also, because getting ahead and staying there is getting tougher and tougher. They have all they can do to just hold on. They are looking at crushing car payments and counting pennies. Praying that their kids stick to only one sport. The Boomers have their own issues. SS sure isn't keeping up with rampant inflation and as they approach the age where more health care is needed, those costs go up too. They are stuck between having jobs with pensions that stopped as the country went to 401k's. The smart ones took advantage of both. So yes, the smart ones really had an advantage. But they also saw economic downturns and recession. The one in 1980 was particuarly nasty with lots of people out of work for quite a while. And now many, who stupidly relied on SS and the bones they are thrown for adjustment on it not figuring in that the price of everything doubles every 20 years, are forced to return to work. And that 20 year rule is all out the window now. The point is that nobody has had it that easy. The warfare around the different age classes is all bullshit. It's what you make of it and what I realize I should have started doing 10 years sooner, but I was stubborn, couldn't imagine moving and at one time found myself talking shit about how "The Man" is holding me down nd I'll never get ahead. Fortunately, I caught myself making bullshit excuses for myself very early and made a plan. It was hard, but I stuck to it. I worked 7 days a week with 11 days off for weekends and holidays per year. I did that for 14 straight years. Yes, I had more than my friends. Yes I had a nice home for my area, but the cost was too damned high in the toll it was taking on me. But I made it. I'm NOT saying everyone should do that. I rather they be smarter than having to do that. But it starts by taking responsibility and thinking your way through the problems.....and sometimes realizing the first problem that needs fixing is yourself and your vision of what you want. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:35:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: $130k/yr to pick up poo? $130k is the new $65k, my dude. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Originally Posted By -Sabot42-: Millennial dude in my AO started a business picking up dog shit in people's yards. $25 a week subscription. Yards take about 10 minutes each. WORD OF MOUTH AND WINDSHIELD FLIERS ONLY. He has more yards than he can handle and is hiring people to keep up. Dude easily clears 2500 a week picking up dog shit. People are moving here in droves and bringing their golden shitters with them. BOOT. STRAPS. $130k is the new $65k, my dude. Well maybe so but 65k to do that would have been pretty good back in the day. Don't forget the vast majority of people are not making six figures today anyway. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Well maybe so but 65k to do that would have been pretty good back in the day. Don't forget the vast majority of people are not making six figures today anyway. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:44:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewUsername: A bunch of spoiled brats. What they need is a good draft and a world war to show them how good they have it! Soon. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:45:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mordecai: There's a YouTube guy that mows yards for free, mostly for old people, etc... He has a bunch of clips of neighbors that confront him complaining that he should be doing their yard for free... its fucking bizarre but goes a long way toward understanding a whole class of voters... Fills lawn care. My son loves the channel. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:47:01 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Soon.  Sad Cat Dance ft. Hailey Lujan + Jessica Brooks |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PDP_Main: Boomers are grandparents now, and have been for 2 decades. Participation trophies started in the oughts (2000-2009), so that would be Gen X or Millis that started the participation trophies. You VCels need to get your generations straight so you can blame the right group for your failures. Now go watch some porn and rub one out. That's not correct. It may not have been a thing where you were, but they were giving participation trophies and ribbons in the late 70s. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:55:16 PM EDT
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Cost of housing has 10x + in the last 30 years. Salaries have gone up, what, 2x? My parents bought a house in the 70's for $25k, now worth $1.1m. My grandparents built a house in 1995 for $1m, now worth $7-8m. I'll never be able to live like they did.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:55:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: When the future seems grim, it's time to work on basic skills and buy some guns.  Attached File....and I'm 55 |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:56:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Denwad: I'm 34 and I don't see a future either , and I'm pretty set. I fear for my daughter, her siblings and their future kids. Exactly me right now |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:57:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emsjeep: Cost of housing has 10x + in the last 30 years. Salaries have gone up, what, 2x? My parents bought a house in the 70's for $25k, now worth $1.1m. My grandparents built a house in 1995 for $1m, now worth $7-8m. I'll never be able to live like they did. Is it reasonable to believe that you should? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:58:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emsjeep: Cost of housing has 10x + in the last 30 years. Salaries have gone up, what, 2x? My parents bought a house in the 70's for $25k, now worth $1.1m. My grandparents built a house in 1995 for $1m, now worth $7-8m. I'll never be able to live like they did.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:59:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HourOfAngle]
[#43]
I do well enough for myself I'm basically retired at 53. Have worked at home for myself since age 21. But there are a lot of things I'm not happy about in the world and I personally don't see them getting better before they get worse, yes it's a meme. Things have gone very well for me. I dropped out of high school a few weeks before graduation. After going to private middle school and then a high school for engineering for 3 years my last year as a senior at a public school was a huge refresher course from middle school.
Anyway things worked out. At 18 I made an inflation adjusted $52k a year and at 21 and inflation adjusted $84k a year. Then I knew if I stayed there I'd be there forever and no thanks. So left the area to a very rural area and worked for myself from home which is common in my field. At first I did my drawings at home and mailed them and picked up drawings from the customer from the post office pre internet days. But the batshit crazy shit going on in the world I don't see it changing no matter who is elected nowdays. Just a personal opionion. A lot of people look to politicians for directions and such, and I have no idea why. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:02:03 PM EDT
[#44]
That’s the problem. You don’t see a future. You build it!
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:02:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: emsjeep]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77: Is it reasonable to believe that you should? |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:03:22 PM EDT
[#46]
So is most of GD.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:04:04 PM EDT
[#47]
Life is what you make of it.
Blaming others is the most common form of denying one's own problems. The young must be pissed at themselves. Whatever leftist/islamic ideology they've been brainwashed into is not working. They must re-learn the basics of a maintaining a civilization, starting with restoring law and order. They've been listening to what the criminals and terrorists say too much. Listening to the wise elders can save them and the nation. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:04:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emsjeep: Isn't that the way of things? Successive generations have same/better quality of life, assuming they work as hard and generally have similar abilities, of course? Nope ARFCOM GD says that you should have less than your parents regardless of how hard you work. It’s unreasonable to expect a life as good as theirs regardless of the work you put in. Bootstraps only go so far.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:04:39 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Yet they continue to vote Democrat. This!!! |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:05:33 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KOOLKEV: Say what you want, the young vote too. If the majority of them see no way forward how do you think they will vote? That's why socialism, or outright communism are popular in countries with basically two tiers, rich and poor. Take away opportunities, real or perceived, from the young what do you expect. And when they vote it in, they soon realize they cannot vote it out again......then they really will see no future but one of servitude |
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