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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:46:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mercworx: What are you doing to stand up for me? Vote for the Republicans in November? That is what I’m doing already. My point is just this; if the overwhelming majority of Americas Jews hop in a voting booth and vote for the same party all these vile left wing cretins are voting for then what should my takeaway be? That not all jews are idiots and those that are not are worth standing up for. And I'm willing to do more than vote. Are you? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:50:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Voland: Let's face it, these anti Israel/jewish protests across all the liberal shitholes are being staged by the same people that did blm bullshit in 2020. The difference is that antisemtims thats being stirred up will get people killed. As a jew, I am beyond fucking livid seeing what's happening across the campuses and cities across America. How can this be allowed to happen? How are people this fucking stupid? This will not end well... The BLM and Antifa hatred got lots of peopled killed, and still does. Yes, leftist racism has spilled over onto the Jewish community, which now exposes them to the dangerous hatred that they were largely aligned with politically. Hatecraft is dangerous to everyone, and Jews are an easy target. Maybe they should support their true friends, Christians on the right, instead of antisemites on the left, and stop voting against their own interests. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:52:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: And this is the kind of bullshit we have to put up with... Shame shame shame... I hope the mods ban him... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136881/1000005794_jpg-3197524.JPG Well, if they have any guts they will come out in the thread and say it in the open |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: You're still working with him. He faces no consequences for being a leftist, why would he care? People don't care and by the time their lives are impacted enough for them to care voting their way out usually is no longer an option. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Originally Posted By Makarov: A few weeks ago, I was finishing up with my tax guy. He is Jewish, I’ve worked with him for 14 tax years. He is fiscally conservative, a family man, doesn’t understand why anyone not a cop or a soldier “needs” a gun but doesn’t “hate” guns. Yet, he voted for Hilary, voted for Biden and will vote for Biden again because he thinks Trump is “too divisive”. He also reminds me that he is an American Jew, not an Israeli. I get the distinction and appreciate it but the man is literally voting for his own extinction. I don’t understand how smart people can look at what is happening with…we’ll…EVERYTHING and still be voting for Democrats. You're still working with him. He faces no consequences for being a leftist, why would he care? People don't care and by the time their lives are impacted enough for them to care voting their way out usually is no longer an option. He’s not a Leftist, he just votes like an idiot but he’s not an idiot either. I think it is just a cultural thing. Growing-up he watched his parents vote for Democrats and he was taught all his life to vote for Democrats. When we talk, I challenge him to question and defend WHY he would do that. Also, it took me about 5 of those 14 years for him to fully understand how our income is derived. I ain’t starting over again from scratch unless I have to 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:57:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JimBobJersey: The dems have embraced and emboldened the nazis. Academia has embraced and emboldened the nazis. They have one goal, kill Jews. They're using this conflict as an excuse to do so. 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:58:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snackle: The BLM and Antifa hatred got lots of peopled killed, and still does. Yes, leftist racism has spilled over onto the Jewish community, which now exposes them to the dangerous hatred that they were largely aligned with politically. Hatecraft is dangerous to everyone, and Jews are an easy target. Maybe they should support their true friends, Christians on the right, instead of antisemites on the left, and stop voting against their own interests. 100% in agreement. I can't tell you how many jewish subreddits I've been banned from for saying this. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:02:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: They have the right to be whatever. The minute people start getting hurt(assulted) or threatened with bodily harm(Columbia) it crosses the line from free speech and requires action. BTW, both of those meet full description of terrorism... where is the fbi on this one? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By Makarov: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: In bedrock terms... There's always speech that (rightly) should be restricted. That's not even up for argument, and if we think it is, cool. We'll send someone down to the nearest and most crowded place and start having them tell everyone your full name, address, drivers license number, bank account, SSI, etc. If we say "Oh but that's different" ... that's time to stare in a mirror and realize somethings mentally out of whack. So, WHY ... do we restrict people from exactly the kind of speech I just used as an example? Not merely because it's private information,but also because of the effects that you reasonably expect to follow it if it's widely broadcasted. Here's a different example. Dude tried to publish a book on how to groom kids in order to do pedo stuff to them on amazon. Book (speech) got pulled. It wasn't spreading private info like the first example, but I doubt anyone here would say it shouldn't have been restricted, and that amazon should have been punished for ever letting it get on the site in the first place, because they should have known better. ---------------------------- I'd guess the question at hand is ... exactly what are the protestors saying, and is it morally the same kind of thing as the examples given above. ... and if we decide it is, we'd better be right, because it's going to have to be applied equally everywhere it would otherwise apply. You couldn’t be more wrong. Regarding your first example, it is up to YOU to keep your information private, those who improperly release or fail to secure that information are responsible for civil damages. Those who use that information to commit a crime (fraud, theft, etc.) then become criminally responsible. In your second straw man example, pedophiles have every right to out themselves through free speech. The benefit to society is that we then know who these monsters are and can focus a judicial microscope on them (if resources can ever be taken away from hunting January 6th insurrectionists) and prosecute them to the fullest, once they cross that line between free speech and a crime. Amazon was NOT violating the monsters right to free speech because they had no obligation to provide a platform for his monstrous work. They were acting with a rare sense of corporate responsibility. Also, people have every right to be anti-Semitic, just like people have a right to hate Muslims, Blacks, Whites, chili with beans, whatever. What you don’t have a right to do is cause physical or tangible harm to someone (feelings not included) nor do you have a right to make someone or some entity provide a platform for your fucked-up beliefs. That is how free speech works. Of course, I mean “you” in the collective sense, not personally. They have the right to be whatever. The minute people start getting hurt(assulted) or threatened with bodily harm(Columbia) it crosses the line from free speech and requires action. BTW, both of those meet full description of terrorism... where is the fbi on this one? I agree 100%. What is happening on these campuses has left the bounds of free speech and is now criminal. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:08:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: 100% in agreement. I can't tell you how many jewish subreddits I've been banned from for saying this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By snackle: The BLM and Antifa hatred got lots of peopled killed, and still does. Yes, leftist racism has spilled over onto the Jewish community, which now exposes them to the dangerous hatred that they were largely aligned with politically. Hatecraft is dangerous to everyone, and Jews are an easy target. Maybe they should support their true friends, Christians on the right, instead of antisemites on the left, and stop voting against their own interests. 100% in agreement. I can't tell you how many jewish subreddits I've been banned from for saying this. In all fairness, you're one good person, but how much good can any of us do as one good man? And especially how much good can any one person do when your enemy has a say in what side you're on? If the left wants to lump you in with whites, and then white people say "nah, you burned your bridges when everyone like you started this mess" where does that leave you as a genuinely good man, who had nothing to do with it? And in fact, tried to speak up and stop it? I think that identity politics is sadly the norm throughout history and Americans in the next century (especially whites, and also jews) are in for a rude awakening for thinking that we were past it. We aren't. People are tribal animals and its sad. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:10:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mercworx]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: And this is the kind of bullshit we have to put up with... Shame shame shame... I hope the mods ban him... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136881/1000005794_jpg-3197524.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: And this is the kind of bullshit we have to put up with... Shame shame shame... I hope the mods ban him... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136881/1000005794_jpg-3197524.JPG That same person probably supports Europe for Europeans. But thinks Jews returning to their ancestral homeland is “disgusting”. Originally Posted By Voland: That not all jews are idiots and those that are not are worth standing up for. And I'm willing to do more than vote. Are you? 3 years with 1ID after 3 years with Nahal 50th. Already did more than vote. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:14:06 PM EDT
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This is Pretty good read and explains a lot of the disconnect.
https://jpfo.org/alerts2015/alert20150508.htm |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:36:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Evintos]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: I live in Dallas. Shockingly, I have not experianced a single case of antisemetism in my 35 years in dfw. I know it's bad elsewhere and my shock is not about it existing, it's the kids dog piling on it instead of supporting their jewish schoolmates. My experience with Jewish (born and practicing) schoolmates/classmates in the Chicagoland area is that they went along with it. Perhaps they were trying to fit in or it was a defense mechanism against bullying, or maybe they have a case of self-loathing. No clue. I asked them before how can they support some of the things that they do and every single time, I would receive talking points about racist Republicans, evil Jewish bankers, falsely attributing a rise in hate crimes against Jews towards conservatives, and other nonsense. They've long since graduated college and still many of them support the leftist ideology (BLM, ANTIFA, etc). Those pics you see for example that says "Jews for Palestine," that's been my experience with high school, college aged, and post college graduate Jews. While I'm glad that the experience is different in the Dallas region (and different in others), it appears (from my perspective) as though you're outnumbered. Youthful ignorance cannot adequately explain it. I perceive them as to having sown the seeds of their own (and others') destruction and at my current age, sadly, I find myself lacking an adequate amount of sympathy. Jaded, perhaps. Best of luck to all the Jews who will suffer because of the foolishness of others. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:42:35 PM EDT
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After 2020, I just hope both sides have fun.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:51:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigBurkeyBoy: In all fairness, you're one good person, but how much good can any of us do as one good man? And especially how much good can any one person do when your enemy has a say in what side you're on? If the left wants to lump you in with whites, and then white people say "nah, you burned your bridges when everyone like you started this mess" where does that leave you as a genuinely good man, who had nothing to do with it? And in fact, tried to speak up and stop it? I think that identity politics is sadly the norm throughout history and Americans in the next century (especially whites, and also jews) are in for a rude awakening for thinking that we were past it. We aren't. People are tribal animals and its sad. You know better... Do I have to drop a meme on you?  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:05:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mercworx: That same person probably supports Europe for Europeans. But thinks Jews returning to their ancestral homeland is “disgusting”. 3 years with 1ID after 3 years with Nahal 50th. Already did more than vote. Thank you for your service! |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:09:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KaerMorhenResident]
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Identity politics in general is dangerous.
This nation isn't unified by a State religion. We were massively dependent on NATIONALISM for a our national unity and the Democrats to make cheap political gains have literally made "Nationalism" a dirty word. The left lumps in Nationalism with Racism and Xenophobia. Assimilating into the "American Culture" of backyard BBQs, Apple Pie, football, main street 4th of July parades...Hell, I knew Jews growing up that liked some of the Christmas celebration stuff. I had a buddy I once bought an ugly Christmas sweater for who was Jewish, it was hilarious to see him wearing a Rudolph Sweater. Had Black, Asian, and Latino friends my whole life and we'd all talk edcrap about each other's races, it was hilarous. All that cultural unity is being dismantled by the Left as they split everyone into little factions as deeply as they can. Being American, assimilating to the American culture used to be a point of pride. Now it's discouraged and its being discouraged heavily as we bring in tons and tons of immigrants, more than we've ever brought in at any one time. It's not good. ***Man, this nation was once a very special place, we had our issues, but I always felt very optmistic about where we were going as a nation and I just don't feel that way anymore. Sad.  |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:10:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: You know better... Do I have to drop a meme on you? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136881/one_person_jpg-3197581.JPG The irony |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:19:28 PM EDT
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Don't Jews vote overwhelmingly for democrats?
I view this as a democrat civil war. Hands off. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:24:48 PM EDT
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Ukiebro asking how people can be this stupid? Trolling tread confirmed
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:46:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mercworx: Buddy they are going to shove you into the cattle car next to mine LMAO. You’re of Jewish descent. Thank you for sharing though that was an interesting read. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mercworx: Originally Posted By ramairthree: This is way too long to read. Skip the post unless you want to waste time on a detailed observation. My great grandfather was French Ashkenazi who went from France to Quebec. He was going to make his fortune in the fur trade but in the later 1800s it was more of a just getting by thing. He trapped and somehow his gun was a cut down British Artillery rifled musket. My understanding is being Jewish was something he never really had any involvement or practicing or anything after arriving in Canada. I guess a lot more men than women immigrated and he married a Huron girl whose dad was chief /leader of the village or little res. She was like his fifth daughter or something so he threw in a Remington rolling block rimfire with a bunch of brass tacks, a leather wrap, etc. On it as the dowry. Her village had missionaries and she had been raised “Catholic.” So I guess they were Catholic until they moved away east to New Brunswick. and ended up moving away from that area. and basically were in a little rural area where everyone was basically Protestant and there was one tiny little church. My grandmother was one of their daughters born around 1903 and got married to a burly man in New Brunswick. Whose mother was Jewish and also grew up not doing any stuff related to being Jewish and whose family grew up basic local Protestant. . Her siblings ended up in Quebec, New Brunswick, Maine, and Nova Scotia. They ended up in another New England state. Where my dad and aunts and uncles were born and also raised Protestant and where I grew up. I don’t hate Jewish people. I don’t want a repeat of the Holocaust. I don’t want a warning for anti-semtism. I’m just trying to objectively state something along the lines of- You had a big wonderful farm in america. It was nice. Then you guys - for a reason I can’t understand - planted a bunch of kudzu on the school playground, on the local college campus, in the town park, and by the courthouse. Now that kudzu is overflowing your farm. And you don’t like it. None of your neighbors want it on their farm either. And we never wanted you to plant it. Buddy they are going to shove you into the cattle car next to mine LMAO. You’re of Jewish descent. Thank you for sharing though that was an interesting read. Oh well. I’m not a pure skin. I eat the shit out of pork. I was in HS and went to summer college baseball camp/assessment and didn’t know what bagels were, etc. Some cousins have gotten into the family tree research and stuff. Recently I have found out about a nephew I didn’t know about, that the “burly man” was the illegitimate son of some traveling Canadian wrestler/showman who was English and Scottish who knocked up a Lithuanian/albanian room cleaner that was Jewish. So that grandpa did a bunch of electrical, construction, etc. Kind of stuff. Bright but not educated. He had a son and daughter from a first marriage. The son was navy in wwii, then IBM and DOD systems analyst computer guy who retired in ‘85. Never knew or met him. Know nothing about the daughter. Only recently found that out. Don’t know anything about his first wife before my grandmother. Maybe died and kids went to live with her sister. I did know my grandmother had the Ashkenazi father, Huron mother, and a husband that died - he was some kind of sailor. I grew up knowing her first son, my uncle. He was WWII and then Korean War ranger company vet. So, first marriages for each in the 1920s, with a son daughter for him and a son for her. Then a handful of kids together. That’s pretty much all I know about that side of the family. Now, her first son died at 90 a while back. He had inherited the rolling block and the rifled musket. His only son had already died and he left them to me. He hadn’t told anyone, but did then when he knew he had metastatic cancer and maybe six months left. This is a gun website, so… type Status report message description Access to the specified resource has been forbidden. Apache Tomcat/7.0.68 (Ubuntu) |
