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Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:01:02 PM EDT
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Bigger than my old 2003 f150.

About the same size as my 2015 f150.


Smaller than my 2018 Raptor f150.


I take it home tomorrow.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:01:22 PM EDT
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My old '09 ranger was tiny compared to the new ones.
Of course your '98 is tiny compared to new
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:01:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Neomonk21:


Exactly.  I heard somewhere that the new emission laws make it way more expensive to manufacture smaller trucks so they just made the trucks bigger to get around it.
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Originally Posted By Neomonk21:
Originally Posted By Rudukai13:
It’s because it’s cheaper for the manufacturers to make the trucks bigger than it is to make them more fuel efficient


Exactly.  I heard somewhere that the new emission laws make it way more expensive to manufacture smaller trucks so they just made the trucks bigger to get around it.

You also have to look at the new crash standards.  I a few years ago I had to take the company vehicle for an oil change. While I was there they had a brand new Cherokee everyone was looking at and a guy drove up with a 1990’s model with the inline 6. The new model was much bigger, not sure if the guy was GM of the dealer or an engineer but said….”we can’t make them that size anymore because of all the new crash standards”.

Look at how back then you could actually turn your head around and see where the hell you were backing up.  Now every car has at least one big pillar in the way, at least backup cameras help with that.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:03:09 PM EDT
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I miss my 1993 4x4 V6

It looked a bit like this

Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:04:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Flogger23m:
I know nothing of trucks. But I assumed the point of the Ranger was to be a small truck. Someone who needs a truck bed for oversized or easy cleaning but still needs a smaller vehicle. That new Ranger looks like an average sized truck. I assume the F-150s are now much larger than that new Ranger?
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Yes. That's what happens when you let hippies and legislators create fuel efficiency rules based on physical size.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:06:19 PM EDT
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The size creep sucks. A lot. They need to knock it off. All the manufacturers do it too. Some serious bullshit when they ruin a nameplate with bullshit and big size.

Them old rangers were awesome.

They can't even build enough mavericks. Gee I wonder why? What's that? An actually affordable vehicle that isn't 87" wide and doesn't cost 87k? No shit????? Hoo Lee fukkk!!!!! What a concept!!!!!!

The half tons are starting to be bigger than the old HD pickups.... dumb. Simply dumb. The best is when the non CDL holders bring up towing numbers of the current crop of 350 trucks...... get the fuck out of here with that shit..... your illegal AF, assuming you even bought the right plates.... then tell us how your insurance company feels about your thoughts

I hope the other OE's take notice of the Mavericks runaway success. Even the price on the current mid size trucks of all brands  is borderline cartoonish. 50-65k for a midsize???lol. Umkay....
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:07:11 PM EDT
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He restored that whole truck, now that's dedication.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:07:40 PM EDT
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Bigger than my old 2003 f150.

About the same size as my 2015 f150.


Smaller than my 2018 Raptor f150.


I take it home tomorrow.
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Now that's going to be a pimp setup! Which engine did you do?
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:09:37 PM EDT
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The new ‘small’ trucks are the size of old full size.
And, that’s why they’re almost affordable…
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:11:21 PM EDT
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Now that's going to be a pimp setup! Which engine did you do?
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08:
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Bigger than my old 2003 f150.

About the same size as my 2015 f150.


Smaller than my 2018 Raptor f150.


I take it home tomorrow.


Now that's going to be a pimp setup! Which engine did you do?



It’s a raptor.  So the 3.0L EB @ 405hp.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:20:02 PM EDT
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I had an '88 Ranger S with the 2.0 and 1 bbl carb. It was slow as hell, which was good, since I was in my early 20s. I kept it for ~15 years. It was a little beat up, since it had been hit 3 times, but it still ran well when I sold it. Wish I'd kept it.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:20:50 PM EDT
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I really think the new Ranger would be perfect for me but they are a little too spendy. I was bummed that they killed the supercab with the longer bed as I'm not a fan of the tiny bed crew cabs although it seems a much better fit on the Maverick. I think the Tacoma and Frontier still have some trims with 6' beds.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:30:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mnd:

My wife has a 2024 Maverick.  My daughter has a 2002 Sport Trac and my son has 1994, 1996 and 1997 Rangers.

It's interesting to see the spread of size.

I think Ford nailed it with the Maverick.
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Originally Posted By mustb123:
Exactly why I bought a new Maverick last year. 4,000 pound tow rating, AWD, 4 doors and the Ecoboost motor that gets 30mpg. I don't need a huge truck to tow my little 17' flats boat here in flat Florida. 27.3k brand new.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126943/2DF2E86C-0FB2-44FD-97A3-7309CD9A719A-3197933.jpg

My wife has a 2024 Maverick.  My daughter has a 2002 Sport Trac and my son has 1994, 1996 and 1997 Rangers.

It's interesting to see the spread of size.

I think Ford nailed it with the Maverick.
I went on a road trip last year in a friend's new Maverick.  We had fun parking it next to late 90s rangers and S-10s, depending on the models involved the maverick was larger.




Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:30:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Flogger23m:
I know nothing of trucks. But I assumed the point of the Ranger was to be a small truck. Someone who needs a truck bed for oversized or easy cleaning but still needs a smaller vehicle. That new Ranger looks like an average sized truck. I assume the F-150s are now much larger than that new Ranger?
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Not directly Ranger related, but there’s a reason this 1988 Toyota regular cab, short box “arfcommer’s dream features” truck is still here since ‘95-96…crank windows and carb….radio was dealer added, and I added the 12v accessory plugs😂.  It’s small can get into tighter spaces, can actually hand load it, AND reach the passenger window cranks.

Several other Toyota pickups have come and gone. About 5 3/4-1tons have come and gone, one 1/2 ton.

Toyota is not gonna go anywhere…90% might swap it on a extra ext cab long box frame we have with the single cab and make a lightweight aluminum 8ft+ dump bed for it…😂..100% use for it too.

Modern trucks are ridiculous in size.🙄

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ETA: should probably wash the toyo truck, i thinks it’s been a couple years.🤦‍♂️
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:43:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gunnut003:


Not directly Ranger related, but there’s a reason this 1988 Toyota regular cab, short box “arfcommer’s dream features” truck is still here since ‘95-96…crank windows and carb….radio was dealer added, and I added the 12v accessory plugs😂.  It’s small can get into tighter spaces, can actually hand load it, AND reach the passenger window cranks.

Several other Toyota pickups chase come and gone. About 5 3/4-1tons have come and gone, one 1/2 ton.

Toyota is not gonna go anywhere…90% might swap it a ext cab long box frame with the single cab and make a lightweight aluminum 8ft+ dump bed for it…😂..100% use for it too.

Modern trucks are ridiculous in size.🙄

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64672/2F66F40C-CAD0-4478-9BF0-34D9AE339E7C_jpe-3198054.JPG

ETA: should probably wash the toyo truck, i thinks it’s been a couple years.🤦‍♂️
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I grew up thinking everything needed 4wd and then I moved down here and started seeing a ton of the old toyota longbeds driving around and was thinking they'd be great for most of my local driving and errands. Similar to the old El Caminos and Rancheros or the UTEs in Austrailia they make a lot of sense to me.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 11:44:30 PM EDT
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I loved my 1997 Ranger, it had the 5 speed manual, and 4 cylinder, paid just under $10,000 brand new in 1998. Wish they still made them like that.



Link Posted: 4/26/2024 12:00:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By p3590:
I went on a road trip last year in a friend's new Maverick.  We had fun parking it next to late 90s rangers and S-10s, depending on the models involved the maverick was larger.
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Originally Posted By mnd:
Originally Posted By mustb123:
Exactly why I bought a new Maverick last year. 4,000 pound tow rating, AWD, 4 doors and the Ecoboost motor that gets 30mpg. I don't need a huge truck to tow my little 17' flats boat here in flat Florida. 27.3k brand new.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126943/2DF2E86C-0FB2-44FD-97A3-7309CD9A719A-3197933.jpg

My wife has a 2024 Maverick.  My daughter has a 2002 Sport Trac and my son has 1994, 1996 and 1997 Rangers.

It's interesting to see the spread of size.

I think Ford nailed it with the Maverick.
I went on a road trip last year in a friend's new Maverick.  We had fun parking it next to late 90s rangers and S-10s, depending on the models involved the maverick was larger.

The Maverick isn't small, but the bed height isn't outrageous.

My metric for light pickups is Datsun 620/720s though which are even smaller than the 90s Rangers.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 12:01:27 AM EDT
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It’s a raptor.  So the 3.0L EB @ 405hp.
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08:
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Bigger than my old 2003 f150.

About the same size as my 2015 f150.


Smaller than my 2018 Raptor f150.


I take it home tomorrow.


Now that's going to be a pimp setup! Which engine did you do?



It’s a raptor.  So the 3.0L EB @ 405hp.


Yeah, I could tell it was a Raptor. I  misunderstood the podcast I heard about the specs when they were talking about it then. I thought there was more than one engine for some reason. That 10" travel front and rear is gonna be epic!

Link Posted: 4/26/2024 12:06:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gunnut003:


Not directly Ranger related, but there’s a reason this 1988 Toyota regular cab, short box “arfcommer’s dream features” truck is still here since ‘95-96…crank windows and carb….radio was dealer added, and I added the 12v accessory plugs😂.  It’s small can get into tighter spaces, can actually hand load it, AND reach the passenger window cranks.

Several other Toyota pickups chase come and gone. About 5 3/4-1tons have come and gone, one 1/2 ton.

Toyota is not gonna go anywhere…90% might swap it a ext cab long box frame with the single cab and make a lightweight aluminum 8ft+ dump bed for it…😂..100% use for it too.

Modern trucks are ridiculous in size.🙄

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64672/2F66F40C-CAD0-4478-9BF0-34D9AE339E7C_jpe-3198054.JPG

ETA: should probably wash the toyo truck, i thinks it’s been a couple years.🤦‍♂️
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As soon as I can get the body work done on my Toyota, my 89 will be back on the road.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 12:06:53 AM EDT
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It's because it's cheaper for the manufacturers to make the trucks bigger than it is to make them more fuel efficient
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Can you please elaborate further on  this economic miracle ?
Explain as if to a small child, or curious, but slightly dim-witted adult...  
Is it a banking, subsidy or government edict ?  Because the physics angle seems to argue the reverse case.

Link Posted: 4/26/2024 12:08:14 AM EDT
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trucks getting bigger is a result of government getting involved.
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Those old 4.0s were as fast through the 1/4 as a stock Mustang.
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Nope.  Not even close.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 12:20:39 AM EDT
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'20 Ford F-150 versus '90 Chevy 3500. The F-150 is massive compared to a 1 ton of 34 years ago.

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Link Posted: 4/26/2024 12:28:58 AM EDT
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I loved my 1997 Ranger, it had the 5 speed manual, and 4 cylinder, paid just under $10,000 brand new in 1998. Wish they still made them like that.



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That was my first vehicle. I learned to drive standard on it. I had it til an uninsured, no driver's license driver hit me and totalled it in Tulsa.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 12:58:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mustb123:
Exactly why I bought a new Maverick last year. 4,000 pound tow rating, AWD, 4 doors and the Ecoboost motor that gets 30mpg. I don’t need a huge truck to tow my little 17’ flats boat here in flat Florida. 27.3k brand new.
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The more I look at Mavericks, the more I think I'm gonna buy one.  In college I had a '94 ranger,  so smaller trucks always have had a place in my heart.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:09:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RV8guy:

As soon as I can get the body work done on my Toyota, my 89 will be back on the road.
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Originally Posted By gunnut003:


Not directly Ranger related, but there’s a reason this 1988 Toyota regular cab, short box “arfcommer’s dream features” truck is still here since ‘95-96…crank windows and carb….radio was dealer added, and I added the 12v accessory plugs😂.  It’s small can get into tighter spaces, can actually hand load it, AND reach the passenger window cranks.

Several other Toyota pickups chase come and gone. About 5 3/4-1tons have come and gone, one 1/2 ton.

Toyota is not gonna go anywhere…90% might swap it a ext cab long box frame with the single cab and make a lightweight aluminum 8ft+ dump bed for it…😂..100% use for it too.

Modern trucks are ridiculous in size.🙄

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64672/2F66F40C-CAD0-4478-9BF0-34D9AE339E7C_jpe-3198054.JPG

ETA: should probably wash the toyo truck, i thinks it’s been a couple years.🤦‍♂️

As soon as I can get the body work done on my Toyota, my 89 will be back on the road.


For 3-4 years this Toyota became the around the property beater truck for yard work, gravel…hard maintenance work, dings dents, etc. then we wised up and did an almost compete off frame engine/cab frame clean up and tune up. The whole truck was fixed and painted. Sadly the bed is not the original one, but we were thinking of making it a flatbed so it’d be more space for fitting all the garbage cans for one trip that it’s used for weekly. The garbage container is a whopping 200yds away from the houses…😂
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Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:26:48 AM EDT
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Always liked the Rangers back in the 90s. Anyone remember the Tremor version?
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:27:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:

I grew up thinking everything needed 4wd and then I moved down here and started seeing a ton of the old toyota longbeds driving around and was thinking they'd be great for most of my local driving and errands. Similar to the old El Caminos and Rancheros or the UTEs in Austrailia they make a lot of sense to me.
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Originally Posted By gunnut003:


Not directly Ranger related, but there’s a reason this 1988 Toyota regular cab, short box “arfcommer’s dream features” truck is still here since ‘95-96…crank windows and carb….radio was dealer added, and I added the 12v accessory plugs😂.  It’s small can get into tighter spaces, can actually hand load it, AND reach the passenger window cranks.

Several other Toyota pickups chase come and gone. About 5 3/4-1tons have come and gone, one 1/2 ton.

Toyota is not gonna go anywhere…90% might swap it a ext cab long box frame with the single cab and make a lightweight aluminum 8ft+ dump bed for it…😂..100% use for it too.

Modern trucks are ridiculous in size.🙄

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64672/2F66F40C-CAD0-4478-9BF0-34D9AE339E7C_jpe-3198054.JPG

ETA: should probably wash the toyo truck, i thinks it’s been a couple years.🤦‍♂️

I grew up thinking everything needed 4wd and then I moved down here and started seeing a ton of the old toyota longbeds driving around and was thinking they'd be great for most of my local driving and errands. Similar to the old El Caminos and Rancheros or the UTEs in Austrailia they make a lot of sense to me.


To be fair though, just on the property, depending on if it rains or not or how much rain, there are areas if the truck is there, it stays there until it dries and no 4x4 is pullling it out either, at least not without totally tearing up the grass/field itself trying to get in.
From experience, this truck can do the hauling work of a 1/2 ton just fine, even at highway speeds of  70ish. I need to try some slighty upsided tires to see if I can get lower rpm at highway speeds though.
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Bigger than my old 2003 f150.

About the same size as my 2015 f150.


Smaller than my 2018 Raptor f150.


I take it home tomorrow.
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What color is that?
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 2:09:45 AM EDT
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Bigger than my old 2003 f150.

About the same size as my 2015 f150.


Smaller than my 2018 Raptor f150.


I take it home tomorrow.
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Nice.

I still really like my '19 SCAB.

Looking forward to your info post on the new one.
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Originally Posted By Slufstuff:
I know it is not a revelation, but I noticed this current generation (not sure which exact year) Ranger XLT parked next to my 1998 Ranger XLT. I was struck by the size difference. The newer truck looks much bigger when next to my 98. I can easily reach into the bed of my Ranger, not so much on that current style. It seems as big as an F-150 from 1998. I am not knocking the new Ranger, I am sure it is nice, but in a considerably larger package.
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@Slufstuff

You have my Ranger!

Same color, wheels and everything except mine's a '99 but the '98 and '99 were mostly identical. This is the only real pic I have of it, after a limb fell on it and the fence. I bought it new in Aug '99 and still have it, it has about 130k miles.

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Originally Posted By Positronic:
Can you please elaborate further on  this economic miracle ?
Explain as if to a small child, or curious, but slightly dim-witted adult...  
Is it a banking, subsidy or government edict ?  Because the physics angle seems to argue the reverse case.

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It's definitely the regulations.  Government says a vehicle of size X has to have Y efficiency.  X and Y are inversely proportional.  It's easier to make a vehicle larger with the same efficiency of a smaller vehicle, thus meeting the requirement, than it is to keep the vehicle the same size with the higher efficiency requirements.  I don't have the exact numbers but that is how it was explained to me.  Also, other posters have said the crash standards have increased over the years.
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Those 80's and early 90's Fords, Toyota, Datsun/Nissan, Chevy, Dodge, Mitsubishi, etc. trucks were perfect for almost everyone.
Great little trucks that were affordable and simple.
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It's definitely the regulations.  Government says a vehicle of size X has to have Y efficiency.  X and Y are inversely proportional.  It's easier to make a vehicle larger with the same efficiency of a smaller vehicle, thus meeting the requirement, than it is to keep the vehicle the same size with the higher efficiency requirements.  I don't have the exact numbers but that is how it was explained to me.  Also, other posters have said the crash standards have increased over the years.
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Originally Posted By Positronic:
Can you please elaborate further on  this economic miracle ?
Explain as if to a small child, or curious, but slightly dim-witted adult...  
Is it a banking, subsidy or government edict ?  Because the physics angle seems to argue the reverse case.



It's definitely the regulations.  Government says a vehicle of size X has to have Y efficiency.  X and Y are inversely proportional.  It's easier to make a vehicle larger with the same efficiency of a smaller vehicle, thus meeting the requirement, than it is to keep the vehicle the same size with the higher efficiency requirements.  I don't have the exact numbers but that is how it was explained to me.  Also, other posters have said the crash standards have increased over the years.


People also got bigger. I picked up a couple freinds for dinner years ago in the 300D I used to drive. Watching that midcap 10 trying to get into that car was, well it was something.
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He restored that whole truck, now that's dedication.
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He restored that whole truck, now that's dedication.

He?

She restored the truck which belonged to her grandmother.

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Not a Ford, but, 1988 Sierra 1500 vs. 2015 Sierra 2500


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I’d like to build a 1997ish extended cab short bed 2.3 5 speed if they made such a thing. I have a hopped up 2.3t out of a turbo coupe and I’d do some extended arms or Bronco ttb arms with coilovers in the front with a wider axle in the back with deaver springs on 35’s. Be a fun as shit gravel traveler/hunting truck that would probably get mid to high 20mpg and I could run it on good ole Iowa ethanol.
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What color is that?
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Bigger than my old 2003 f150.

About the same size as my 2015 f150.


Smaller than my 2018 Raptor f150.


I take it home tomorrow.

What color is that?



Shelter Green
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I'm not sure if this is a show off thread or a poor's thread, but I'm interested!

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You also have to look at the new crash standards.  I a few years ago I had to take the company vehicle for an oil change. While I was there they had a brand new Cherokee everyone was looking at and a guy drove up with a 1990’s model with the inline 6. The new model was much bigger, not sure if the guy was GM of the dealer or an engineer but said….”we can’t make them that size anymore because of all the new crash standards”.

Look at how back then you could actually turn your head around and see where the hell you were backing up.  Now every car has at least one big pillar in the way, at least backup cameras help with that.
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Can confirm, these small rangers crushed like a soda can.  I had mine that I mentioned earlier in the thread where the whole bed and frame got smashed and deformed.  And a buddy of mine fell asleep at the wheel.  He hit the front passenger corner of the truck into a tree doing about 35mph.  The dash board ended up touching where the passenger's ass is supposed to be. If anybody had been there, they would be dead or drinking through a straw and shitting in a colostomy bag.
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Originally Posted By Lion:

He?

She restored the truck which belonged to her grandmother.

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Oh, you poor summer child

PS, can we wait till the end of page three before y'all tell him
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Is it possible to order a single-cab Ranger (or single can anything) these days?  

My wife's car got totaled in a hailstorm, so I'm thinking about giving her my Outback and buying an Old Man Truck.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 9:09:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gunnut003:


Not directly Ranger related, but there’s a reason this 1988 Toyota regular cab, short box “arfcommer’s dream features” truck is still here since ‘95-96…crank windows and carb….radio was dealer added, and I added the 12v accessory plugs😂.  It’s small can get into tighter spaces, can actually hand load it, AND reach the passenger window cranks.

Several other Toyota pickups have come and gone. About 5 3/4-1tons have come and gone, one 1/2 ton.

Toyota is not gonna go anywhere…90% might swap it on a extra ext cab long box frame we have with the single cab and make a lightweight aluminum 8ft+ dump bed for it…😂..100% use for it too.

Modern trucks are ridiculous in size.🙄

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ETA: should probably wash the toyo truck, i thinks it’s been a couple years.🤦‍♂️
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A 2wd Yota is just tiny, even for 1988. My 1986 Nissan hardbody with a short box, single cab and 4wd dwarfs your Toyota. Still a mini truck.

Modern vehicles are huge. The Tesla the parks next to me at work every day makes my German station wagon look tiny.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 9:09:36 AM EDT
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I don’t drive pick up trucks, but for some crazy reason looking at the pictures in this thread makes me think of all those chicks I banged in law school. The late 90s was an awesome time to be a handsome young law student. I still love A-line mini skirts, and over the calf boots.

On a whim I bought a pristine 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT, and a like-showroom new 1997 Honda prelude. Maybe I should get one of those 90 pick up trucks to go with them?
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 9:13:13 AM EDT
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Exactly why I bought a new Maverick last year. 4,000 pound tow rating, AWD, 4 doors and the Ecoboost motor that gets 30mpg. I don’t need a huge truck to tow my little 17’ flats boat here in flat Florida. 27.3k brand new.
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It's no coincidence they sell like hot cakes.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 9:14:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By danco302:


Oh, you poor summer child

PS, can we wait till the end of page three before y'all tell him
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Link Posted: 4/26/2024 9:18:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PinePig:


Nice.

I still really like my '19 SCAB.

Looking forward to your info post on the new one.
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08:
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Bigger than my old 2003 f150.

About the same size as my 2015 f150.


Smaller than my 2018 Raptor f150.


I take it home tomorrow.


Nice.

I still really like my '19 SCAB.

Looking forward to your info post on the new one.



It was delivered Tuesday. I just didn’t have time to go get it Tuesday night after it was PDI’d.  I was out of town for work Wednesday and Thursday.  So… actually on my way to get it right now.  


Also, don’t get me wrong I love my F150 Raptor.  It’s awesome in every way besides being about the size of an F350.  So having all the same “benefits” of the F150 raptor in the size of a normal F150 or a tad smaller… I’m interested.


I ordered it on a whim. Because I had the chance at below MSRP - $2000 below msrp. As I got $1000 off for a pre order bonus. And my dealer is giving me $1000 off.  

I figure worse case, if I hate it / don’t drive it / whatever. I can get my money out of it. As currently they’re going for $10-15k above msrp. Just trade it and my f150 in on a new f150 raptor.

But really, I think I’ll like it.  I’m in inner-cities a lot just as much as country. My f150 is a little too big to take through the farm trails.  As well, just driving inside the city it’s… hard to park sometimes. Let alone doing Detroit U turns.
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