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Originally Posted By terryj: AMT Automag II View Quote I passed on an used AMT Automag II from a pawn shop in the early 2000's, and regretted it for a while. I liked the concept of a semi auto 22 mag. Fast forward to a few years ago, and I picked up a Kel-Tek PMR-30. Like most Kel-Tek products, great concept, piss poor implementation. Plastic flexes too much, the mag catch has too much slop for reliable feeding, and the feed ramp is rough plastic instead of something metal. I couldn't get it to cycle a full mag reliably. About a year ago, I ordered the M*Carbo upgrade kit, which addressed all those issues. It takes a full tear down to install everything, and makes you realize how much of the gun's operations require a very slight nub of plastic on the frame for everything to work correctly. Now, it will cycle a full mag reliably, IF you load it 100% perfect. Insert a single round slightly off, and it will jam. So, $350 for the gun (now priced at $370), plus another $140 for the upgrade kit (now priced at $250) for a finicky range toy that still feels like it's going to break in my hand. For the $490 I put into it, mildly annoyed. If I had to replace it for $620, well fuck that. |
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"Life is too serious to be taken seriously" - Ray Bradbury
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Originally Posted By DKUltra: My AP5M Looked freakin badass! But did absolutely nothing my Glock 19X could do, for half the price. not my pic https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/110810/IMG_1688_jpeg-3198807.JPG View Quote You should have form 1 that thing. As a pistol it is stupid, add a choate folding stock and a vertical fore grip it turns into a great shooter |
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Originally Posted By mbg0001: I passed on an used AMT Automag II from a pawn shop in the early 2000's, and regretted it for a while. I liked the concept of a semi auto 22 mag. Fast forward to a few years ago, and I picked up a Kel-Tek PMR-30. Like most Kel-Tek products, great concept, piss poor implementation. Plastic flexes too much, the mag catch has too much slop for reliable feeding, and the feed ramp is rough plastic instead of something metal. I couldn't get it to cycle a full mag reliably. About a year ago, I ordered the M*Carbo upgrade kit, which addressed all those issues. It takes a full tear down to install everything, and makes you realize how much of the gun's operations require a very slight nub of plastic on the frame for everything to work correctly. Now, it will cycle a full mag reliably, IF you load it 100% perfect. Insert a single round slightly off, and it will jam. So, $350 for the gun (now priced at $370), plus another $140 for the upgrade kit (now priced at $250) for a finicky range toy that still feels like it's going to break in my hand. For the $490 I put into it, mildly annoyed. If I had to replace it for $620, well fuck that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mbg0001: Originally Posted By terryj: AMT Automag II I passed on an used AMT Automag II from a pawn shop in the early 2000's, and regretted it for a while. I liked the concept of a semi auto 22 mag. Fast forward to a few years ago, and I picked up a Kel-Tek PMR-30. Like most Kel-Tek products, great concept, piss poor implementation. Plastic flexes too much, the mag catch has too much slop for reliable feeding, and the feed ramp is rough plastic instead of something metal. I couldn't get it to cycle a full mag reliably. About a year ago, I ordered the M*Carbo upgrade kit, which addressed all those issues. It takes a full tear down to install everything, and makes you realize how much of the gun's operations require a very slight nub of plastic on the frame for everything to work correctly. Now, it will cycle a full mag reliably, IF you load it 100% perfect. Insert a single round slightly off, and it will jam. So, $350 for the gun (now priced at $370), plus another $140 for the upgrade kit (now priced at $250) for a finicky range toy that still feels like it's going to break in my hand. For the $490 I put into it, mildly annoyed. If I had to replace it for $620, well fuck that. Smith and Wesson makes a M&P 22 mag now that is similar to the keltec. I my pick one up. |
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Wildey - silly and stupid
Sold it for more than 2x what I paid Worst made gun ... Ever Glad someone managed to appreciate it after my smith said, "Sell it!" |
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Sig mosquito
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The mountains are calling, and I must go. -John Muir
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Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: Don't do it. I was relieved to offload mine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: Originally Posted By Ambridge77: Still trying to sell myself on my KSG. Don't do it. I was relieved to offload mine. Same here. Was glad to see that thing go. |
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Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: Don't do it. I was relieved to offload mine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: Originally Posted By Ambridge77: Still trying to sell myself on my KSG. Don't do it. I was relieved to offload mine. Same here. Was glad to see that thing go. |
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MAS 49/56 in .308. Jam o matic, couldn't get through a magazine
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Originally Posted By Z09SS: Useless guns? I collect 'em! https://live.staticflickr.com/2922/14510132798_766839da9e_b.jpg View Quote I’m envious. I’m a huge fan of the old 25acp pocket guns |
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Slant brakes and long stroke pistons, copper washed bullets and warm Slav mittens, brown Beech handguards dipped in lacquer streams; these are a few of my favorite things.
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Got multiple turn of the century 32 auto's. Love them but pretty pointless.
I think my tech 9 is the most worthless... |
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“I was always willing to be reasonable until I had to be unreasonable. Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.”
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I will not compromise!
Ne Desit Virtus (Let Valor Not Fail) - Rakkasan! "Life is fucking hard. Either get used to taking a few lumps like the rest of us, or buy a fucking helmet and crawl into a corner somewhere." -Me |
Naa 22 magnum
Bronze DE Micro Draco Full-size UZI MPA 9mm defender (mac11 style gun) AR57 Shockwave 12ga Bolt action 50bmg PTR 91 PDW. |
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Esstac’s Retarded Social Media Influencer
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Makarov 380
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MPA 30, M11 clone the one that uses Sten mags. Traded a knife I made for it. Very entertaining. I loved Miami Vice when I was younger and just had to have it. Plus Sten mags were dirt cheap.
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NAA mini revolvers are not useless, the tec 9 I had to have is useless. It sucks as pistol, i had to work on it forever to get it to function properly. But it looks cool and libs are always trying to ban it.
I also have 4.75" 556mm AR that is fun but also useless. |
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Never bought a useless gun, ruger LCP with heavy trigger is closest Iv ever gotten.
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Voting to fix our societies problems, is just as effective as donating to the NRA to expand gun rights.
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The Switch gun is useless, but I really want one.
Switch Gun My EDC! 300 Round Review & Why It’s Plenty To Get The Job Done! |
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Please help St Jude children's hospital.
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Psalm 144:1 Praise the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle.
Callsign: "Nub" |
Originally Posted By John-in-austin: A 20 ga satin nickel Snake Charmer, with the black plastic survival stock. Had to have it, fired it about 10 times and it's been a permanent safe resident for about 20 years. View Quote my .410 snake charmer is beat. to. fuck. rusty, used up old hooker. she's also killed lots of shit, including lots of snakes, which if another thread is any indication, should piss off at least half of GD |
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Originally Posted By Abominable: Both of these https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348465/IMG_5662_jpeg-3198909.JPG But if I didn't have them, https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.3771463441.5272/ur,mouse_pad_small_flatlay,square,600x600.jpg View Quote the fuck? 4" python is my weekend carry gun |
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Then there came from hunting, the weather-eyed shooter.
ARFCOM Callsign: Varmint |
Originally Posted By mbg0001: I passed on an used AMT Automag II from a pawn shop in the early 2000's, and regretted it for a while. I liked the concept of a semi auto 22 mag. Fast forward to a few years ago, and I picked up a Kel-Tek PMR-30. Like most Kel-Tek products, great concept, piss poor implementation. Plastic flexes too much, the mag catch has too much slop for reliable feeding, and the feed ramp is rough plastic instead of something metal. I couldn't get it to cycle a full mag reliably. About a year ago, I ordered the M*Carbo upgrade kit, which addressed all those issues. It takes a full tear down to install everything, and makes you realize how much of the gun's operations require a very slight nub of plastic on the frame for everything to work correctly. Now, it will cycle a full mag reliably, IF you load it 100% perfect. Insert a single round slightly off, and it will jam. So, $350 for the gun (now priced at $370), plus another $140 for the upgrade kit (now priced at $250) for a finicky range toy that still feels like it's going to break in my hand. For the $490 I put into it, mildly annoyed. If I had to replace it for $620, well fuck that. View Quote Wow, dang that was on my wishlist. Thanks for sharing your experience |
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In memory of my son Sean James, born 6/25/97. Died 9/16/13.
We will be reunited in heaven. |
No ammo for my 7.7 "Last Ditch" Arisaka, no reason to shoot it (I have a Garand for .30 fun).
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One of these in .22lr. If I remember correctly, it was $89 sometime in the 80s. They go for like 2K now. I think I shot 2 rounds through it before I put in in the back of the safe Edit. I see I’m not the only one |
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A pair of p320s
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I still have a Jennings .22 I've had for many many years. I wouldn't say I had to have it, but it was dirt cheap. Total POS, which is common knowledge. The last time I shot it, it started double tapping, then the slide fell off. It won't be shot again.
Other than that, I've been pretty good about buying practical guns I actually have a use for. |
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Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: Don't do it. I was relieved to offload mine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: Originally Posted By Ambridge77: Still trying to sell myself on my KSG. Don't do it. I was relieved to offload mine. What he siad I ksg once A ks7 Fired 7 rounds and siad fuck it |
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1(800)kbi 4cat
Montani Semper Libre Qoute : FCSD - Hold up! I could have tip toed around here with just my hand covering my ass, instead of jamming my thumb in my asshole? Y'all motherfuckers need a user manual or something. |
Originally Posted By 11boomboom: No ammo for my 7.7 "Last Ditch" Arisaka, no reason to shoot it (I have a Garand for .30 fun). https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/Last_Ditch_Arisaka_jpg-3198934.JPG View Quote some form of arisaka? i fixed one of those for a friend one time, broken firing pin if i'm remembering correctly if it wasn't for the internet i'd have never gotten that bastard back together again and even with the internet it was iffy ETA: ninja edit on your part |
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In memory of my son Sean James, born 6/25/97. Died 9/16/13.
We will be reunited in heaven. |
Originally Posted By TexRdnec: some form of arisaka? i fixed one of those for a friend one time, broken firing pin if i'm remembering correctly if it wasn't for the internet i'd have never gotten that bastard back together again and even with the internet it was iffy ETA: ninja edit on your part View Quote Absolutely. It was a rusted ball in a friend's garage and he gave it to me for free as a project. I got it into functioning order and repro accessories, but haven't got to ordering ammo and test firing it. |
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Why is the sky blue?
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Henry .357 Magnum lever action - I grew up watching The Rifleman. I don't live on a ranch. I don't ride a horse. But none of that mattered.
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
Originally Posted By firedog51d: 12 gauge. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/72476/image000000__9__jpg-3198938.JPG View Quote Had one, sold it. |
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Browning BDA 380
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N&MEM, SSDR, NRA Life Member
Gun control is literally Hitler. |
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Anything I have/had in 5.7x28mm.
Fun but wouldn't grab it for anything |
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Mauser Broomhandle. I lusted after it from the first time I saw Clint Eastwood let it rip in Joe Kidd.
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Originally Posted By boatsank: I’ll start. https://i.ibb.co/fx6zK5c/IMG-0617.jpg They are fun to shoot. View Quote Honestly- I don’t think those are useless at all. I carried a 22 short version (so their smallest model) as a deep pocket gun for many years. Had an old Sgt who told me two stories involving the same type of NAA mini revolvers- one when he lost his primary and that was all he had, second was of someone else being taken hostage and disarmed, but then using a mini revolver later when the bad guy fell asleep. Also know of someone who was seriously wounded with one in a jailbreak, and eventually died. Also a famous dash video exists of a SC Trooper, who was killed by a hit from one. (Bad guy was a big fat guy who took 5 .357 hits- and lived). So basically- I would never call them “useless”. (Even though mine will have the bullet tumbling by about 5 yards or less!). They work very well for their intended role… |
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a loaded gun won’t set you free, so they say…
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Henry U.S Survival AR-7
Neat and cool, but I don’t see myself ever getting it out and actually using it. |
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Shockwave
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a loaded gun won’t set you free, so they say…
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Masterpiece Arms Defender. Ugghhh. Operated fine. But I swear, ALL of the recoil was felt through that trigger. HORRIBLE! I gave it to my kid. He probably doesn't shoot it either!
I have plenty of guns that I never shoot anymore (lever guns, SAAs, etc). But all are useful. Even the tiny NAA .22LR revolver has it's place. The MPA... not so much. |
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"From hell 's heart, I stab at thee."
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