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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:29:46 PM EDT
[#1]
funny i don't see an elderly black woman anywhere close to him when that started.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:34:54 PM EDT
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What a world we live in!
Edited videos and false posts to try to change the narrative. I cant wait for AI to realistically recreate video of real attacks to give "proof". |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:40:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: runcible]
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Originally Posted By WildBoar: Originally Posted By MFP_4073: SHOW THE WHOLE VIDEO (not directed at the OP) if you only see 10 seconds -- its NEVER enough to make an informed opinion Or, perhaps it's the fact that, generally speaking, "interracial violence" in America is blacks attacking people of other races, most often white people. When it comes to interracial violence occurring between blacks and whites, 90% of it is black on white. Hoof beats, horses, and all that. Not saying that white on black violence doesn't occur. Of course it does. It's just not the norm... by a very wide margin. If someone sees a video of a black and a white fighting, and assumes the black is the aggressor, it's because that is almost always the case. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:47:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ambridge77: Pisses me off the guy wouldn't fight back. My elderly grandfathers would've beat the shit out of that trash. I live in a much different world these days. ETA - Looks like Hampton Roads trash. In this case, I honestly can’t disparage the old guy. 1) he’s old AND fat/out-of-shape 2) Attacked by multiple assailants, who are all younger, in much better physical shape and faster Simply put, he had his hands full just trying to cover and avoid taking a KO shot. Unless you have a good amount of training, AND have the physical ability, you’re in serious trouble. Yes, I would 100% absolve the old man for drawing and shooting. I’ve seen more than one slow, out-of-shape person get KO’ed from trying to ‘fight back’ because fighting back/taking a swing means opening up your defenses. It’s dangerous enough 1-on-1 with a quicker adversary. They can literally beat you to the punch. With multiple-on-1 younger, faster attackers, he had a 99.9% chance of getting KO’ed, then stomped, if he dropped his hands from shielding his head. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnowboundinNH: He was drunk and punched an old woman. Her grandsons retaliated. The white guy was cited and banned from the park. The others are not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnowboundinNH: Originally Posted By Mach: Originally Posted By Thoughtcrime: Serious question: Is that a serious enough attack to draw and shoot? IMO yep He retreats and they keep advancing and assaulting him. He was drunk and punched an old woman. Her grandsons retaliated. The white guy was cited and banned from the park. The others are not. All according to some random claim, that apparently has since been deleted. He offers no proof or evidence. It’s a random claim from a random guy. |
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SGP
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:49:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: You should post to the link from Busch gardens or from the account that the story originated from.  That Tracks Podcast With Tim and Nick | Episode 001 - Who are we and why are we doing this? (Pilot) I'm supposed to believe that he went to legoland here, then for some reason boogied up to Virginia to go to their busch gardens, and then came back? lol. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:49:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
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VEN
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:50:23 PM EDT
[#8]
didn't even have to watch the video to know
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:50:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mech4matsnova]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thoughtcrime: Serious question: Is that a serious enough attack to draw and shoot? Not everything is a gun problem. Go to a MMA gym and learn some unarmed stuff. I go 3-4 days a week, could beat the brakes off them and not even be breathing heavy, them dudes can't fight for shit, theyre just ghetto windmilling. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: as always : SHOW THE WHOLE VIDEO (not directed at the OP) if you only see 10 seconds -- its NEVER enough to make an informed opinion ETA : i would not call that a fight  Unfortunately we got plenty of those here, clearly. People even suggested drawing a firearm over it. Humanity is so easily swayed. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:51:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Bossman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMVidzcWkAE6epk?format=jpg&name=large Hmmm… thanks for posting that. If true, this falls in FAFO territory. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:53:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:54:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RRA_223]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: What I think, is that he went to legoland in Florida, heard about this happening in Busch Gardens and saw an opportunity to grift, but stepped on his own dick because he assumed it was at the Tampa Busch Gardens and not the Virginia location. This sounds the most likely. A grifter who has every incentive to distort the truth (or simply make up a narrative he wishes were true). And being liberal means he's far more likely to do it publicly.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:59:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By treelow: Be careful… I think statistics will now get you an account warning. Statistics are racist. Facts and statistics are racist! |
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SGP
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:59:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: This sounds the most likely. A grifter who has every incentive to distort the truth (or simply make up a narrative he wishes were true). And being liberal means he's far more likely to do it publicly. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:03:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluemax_1: Hmmm… thanks for posting that. If true, this falls in FAFO territory. Except that post is almost certainly fake |
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:09:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mech4matsnova: Not everything is a gun problem. Go to a MMA gym and learn some unarmed stuff. I go 3-4 days a week, could beat the brakes off them and not even be breathing heavy, them dudes can't fight for shit, theyre just ghetto windmilling. Gracie says 2 on 1 get a gun. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:10:11 PM EDT
[#18]
A fight did not "break out"
A bunch of cowardly youths attacked/assaulted an elderly man. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:19:10 PM EDT
[#19]
It takes 3 of them to beat up an old man?
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:01:05 PM EDT
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NH, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:13:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Skg_Mre_Lght]
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:17:12 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thoughtcrime: Serious question: Is that a serious enough attack to draw and shoot? Were you in fear for your life or grievous injury? |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thoughtcrime: Serious question: Is that a serious enough attack to draw and shoot? 100% |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:21:20 PM EDT
[#24]
I am an old guy, with no grand illusion of how tough I am.
But that guy was a fucking pussy. I would have at least landed some center face shots. Faggot. Enjoy your ball-les beat down. I would have got my ass kicked in the end, but they would have known I was there. I'm embarrased for that fucking fag. |
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FM, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:21:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: flyhack72]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VaniB: Why does this constantly involve humans that are 13% of the population in 90% of the altercations? I'm not saying it's true but multiple witnesses say that the old white dude was drunk and hit an older African American woman before he got jumped. Read the Twitter feed and you'll see quite a few posts regarding this--not just the screenshot provided but the originator said that they heard this repeatedly when the event was going on (but also being called racist online). Who knows if that's spin or truth. Looks like assholes may have collided here. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:25:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 346ci: Yes, any of those punches could have been deadly. Add the age factor in and it goes even more to the victim. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 346ci: Originally Posted By Thoughtcrime: Serious question: Is that a serious enough attack to draw and shoot? Yes, any of those punches could have been deadly. Add the age factor in and it goes even more to the victim. Plus being outnumbered. If he goes down and the headstomps begin he could end up dead. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:25:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: I'm not saying it's true but multiple witnesses say that the old white dude was drunk and hit an older African American woman before he got jumped. Read the Twitter feed and you'll see this. Who knows if that's spin or truth. Looks like assholes may have collided here. Could you link to the twitter feed where multiple witnesses say that the old white dude was drunk and hit an older African American woman before he got jumped? I would love to have an informed and enlightened opinion. because so far the one post saying that appears to be complete bullshit. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:26:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By insider: Busch Gardens stopped being cool when they shut down the Beer Garden. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:27:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Skg_Mre_Lght]
[#29]
Boomers will say some shit like this and then wonder why they're suddenly getting beat up at a Busch gardens |
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FM, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:28:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: flyhack72]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joe_Pennsy: Could you link to the twitter feed where multiple witnesses say that the old white dude was drunk and hit an older African American woman before he got jumped? I would love to have an informed and enlightened opinion. because so far the one post saying that appears to be complete bullshit. The person that posted it said she heard people saying that he hit the lady while it was going on (Caroline). Everyone is gonna have their own version of the story so it really doesn't matter in the end. This is just another example that you can't go to places like this because people can't act right and you risk your own safety because someone my drag you into their mess. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:29:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: I'm not saying it's true but multiple witnesses say that the old white dude was drunk and hit an older African American woman before he got jumped. Read the Twitter feed and you'll see quite a few posts regarding this--not just the screenshot provided but the originator said that they heard this repeatedly when the event was going on (but also being called racist online). Who knows if that's spin or truth. Looks like assholes may have collided here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: Originally Posted By VaniB: Why does this constantly involve humans that are 13% of the population in 90% of the altercations? I'm not saying it's true but multiple witnesses say that the old white dude was drunk and hit an older African American woman before he got jumped. Read the Twitter feed and you'll see quite a few posts regarding this--not just the screenshot provided but the originator said that they heard this repeatedly when the event was going on (but also being called racist online). Who knows if that's spin or truth. Looks like assholes may have collided here. Twitter is a force multiplier of misinformation. The post people are sharing screenshots of has a suspiciously specific level of detail from someone who was only a bystander. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:29:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thoughtcrime: Serious question: Is that a serious enough attack to draw and shoot? Oh hell yes! Fear of imminent severe bodily injury, blows to the head, mismatch of force. Bang! Bang! Bang! |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:29:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Bossman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMVidzcWkAE6epk?format=jpg&name=large I have to call bullshit on this explanation because I did not hear anyone screaming “Oh no you didn’t!” |
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FM, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:30:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: flyhack72]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Apec: Twitter is a force multiplier of misinformation. The post people are sharing screenshots of has a suspiciously specific level of detail from someone who was only a bystander. Look at Caroline's posts (the originator). That said, I agree with you regarding Twitter/X. Misinformation that spirals out of control so people find their own truths. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:32:57 PM EDT
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I find it hilarious you have video proof of something, then you have the copy paste bullshit with ZERO proof from sources not even original. Then you have the gullibles that believe it, and call anyone wanting more evidence of the latter explanation a boomer.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:38:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryI believe that to be completely fabricated. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:40:49 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Bossman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMVidzcWkAE6epk?format=jpg&name=large |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:45:46 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By w100vrm: What a stupid Twitter post: Joe's America? Christ, this was going on FAR longer than just the past couple presidents... blaming a president you don't like for endemic problems that have been present for nearly a generation is plain fucking stupid... I did that! Sticker (Sticker points to Bretton Woods) FJB! (70S stagflation) Joe did this! (Bumped elbow funny on table) Well, if anyone over at DU says you aren't taking up for Joe enough over here, send them to me and I will let them know how hard you try. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:47:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: The person that posted it said she heard people saying that he hit the lady while it was going on (Caroline). Everyone is gonna have their own version of the story so it really doesn't matter in the end. This is just another example that you can't go to places like this because people can't act right and you risk your own safety because someone my drag you into their mess. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy: Could you link to the twitter feed where multiple witnesses say that the old white dude was drunk and hit an older African American woman before he got jumped? I would love to have an informed and enlightened opinion. because so far the one post saying that appears to be complete bullshit. The person that posted it said she heard people saying that he hit the lady while it was going on (Caroline). Everyone is gonna have their own version of the story so it really doesn't matter in the end. This is just another example that you can't go to places like this because people can't act right and you risk your own safety because someone my drag you into their mess. So no link? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:48:28 PM EDT
[#40]
It's a Tribal thing you wouldn't understand.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:56:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JimEN: Most everyone thinks they can win a fistfight and greatly overestimates their skills. Gracie says 2 on 1 get a gun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JimEN: Originally Posted By mech4matsnova: Not everything is a gun problem. Go to a MMA gym and learn some unarmed stuff. I go 3-4 days a week, could beat the brakes off them and not even be breathing heavy, them dudes can't fight for shit, theyre just ghetto windmilling. Gracie says 2 on 1 get a gun. Untrained on untrained, yes all day go to the gun if you need that, your odds are 50:50 who connects first and gets the upper hand. I'm not a expert pro or anything but I have competed in MMA events(plural) with success, a trained and experienced opponent vs a untrained and inexperienced is hands on all day for me. 1-2 strikes to disable/discourage the first dude, may not even have to square up the second if he sees his boy eat two to the jaw and ko/tko. Also, a large amount of work experience with that clientele greatly assists in the rapid evaluation of the situation based on a 7-10sec video clip. I know this is s gun website and I carry daily but again, not every problem is a gun problem. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:00:40 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By treelow: Be careful… I think statistics will now get you an account warning. Statistics are racist. Truth is not acceptable. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:07:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cyclic240B: The usual suspects...shocker! MAGA? The Unvaxxed? do tell! |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:10:28 PM EDT
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Explain to me again why segregation was bad?
I'm a slow learner. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:11:42 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thoughtcrime: Serious question: Is that a serious enough attack to draw and shoot? No! You take the beating even if you did not give offense. -The New America |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:12:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ambridge77: I assumed it was, then I read James City County. Make up your f'ing minds! Are you a city or a county? For tax purposes...... yes |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:12:54 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryIf that is true, he deserved a beat down. If some drunken fool took a swing at my grandma, it would be on like Donkey Kong. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:17:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Bossman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMVidzcWkAE6epk?format=jpg&name=large TLDR- Elon Musk's fault. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:18:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By konger: I believe that to be completely fabricated. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By konger: I believe that to be completely fabricated. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:19:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: If that is true, he deserved a beat down. If some drunken fool took a swing at my grandma, it would be on like Donkey Kong. That post is fake. Fake news |
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