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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:27:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gopher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 15jonshoot: Pretty sure more than a few have done so. I haven't logged in but she won't get away without comments from the good side. All of the anti-gun groups are getting hit pretty hard with facts that will not be acknowledged. Brady, Giffords, Everytown, and the dork who tries to pin every shooting on people in Constitutional carry states are getting hammered hard every day. What's amazing is they continue to post their unsupportable crap all day, every day. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:28:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 170Driver: I didn’t realize the area by the airport was so bad. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 170Driver: Originally Posted By Jack19: Southeast Charlotte is hanging on, but it's a lost cause. Incident is where the hand is on the east side. https://i.ibb.co/VjFfbBp/2024-04-29-17-49-29-Greenshot.png I didn’t realize the area by the airport was so bad. Everything west of Tryon to the river is all shitty and would not want to live there. IMHO. Thr older I get the less I enjoy being around this many people. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:28:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: Shame we have liberal judges that let this kind of shit out of jail. Truth. The woke shit is literally killing us. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:29:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: This. They'd MUCH rather take them at work or in their car. Going into structures brings too many problems, as evidenced here. Once they had the subject of the search, they couldn't clear the building he came from. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By Red96TransAm: More and more agencies are disallowing the service of arrest and/or search warrants at night or early in the morning due to the number of “thought they were home intruders” incidents in recent years. I’ve even heard of judges only agreeing to sign off on some warrants under the condition they not be served after darkness falls. I’ve had judges ask me more than once “what time of day will this be served?” No idea if they would have denied the warrant if they didn’t like the answer. This. They'd MUCH rather take them at work or in their car. Going into structures brings too many problems, as evidenced here. Once they had the subject of the search, they couldn't clear the building he came from. 
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:29:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tac556: Well I have seen some questionable tactics at times from USMS, but they are far better than the other feds from what I have seen. I just think USMS deals with serious bad guys enough that they sometimes normalize what other agencies might say “hang on a second” with… But I have seen questionable stuff from everyone at times as well, so I won’t throw too many rocks. Going after murderers, armed robbery suspects, and similarly dangerous folks day after day is hard. If you do things perfectly safely every time, likely nothing will get done. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tac556: Originally Posted By The_Fly: I've seen in person how both the local US Marshall Task Force and the FBI Safe Streets Task Force operate, and they're both tactical idiots. Local LE swat teams are 500% more competent. I suspect its a Fed mindset. To be fair, I have NO clue if the guys in NC operate like the morons here do or not. Well I have seen some questionable tactics at times from USMS, but they are far better than the other feds from what I have seen. I just think USMS deals with serious bad guys enough that they sometimes normalize what other agencies might say “hang on a second” with… But I have seen questionable stuff from everyone at times as well, so I won’t throw too many rocks. Going after murderers, armed robbery suspects, and similarly dangerous folks day after day is hard. If you do things perfectly safely every time, likely nothing will get done. OP tempo is higher in some districts than others. Some teams have more reps than others. Could be part of the difference. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:32:42 PM EDT
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Lot of broken lives tonight.
4 lost. Probably dozens that will never recover from their loss. All because of 2 or 3 pieces of shit that we should have been strong enough to eradicate from our midst years ago. A sad night, of many sad nights. Let's see how much worse politicians can make it. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:33:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: southlak9cop]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xFOXHOUNDx: But he was outside, their target, and got shot from inside the house. Their target didn't kill anyone is what we are hearing. I think we need to know why they were going after him with Marshall's and who the people inside are who were doing the shooting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xFOXHOUNDx: Originally Posted By macro: Originally Posted By HKocher: I'd say that a guy that shot 8 LEOs is pretty serious. But he was outside, their target, and got shot from inside the house. Their target didn't kill anyone is what we are hearing. I think we need to know why they were going after him with Marshall's and who the people inside are who were doing the shooting. State felony is eligible to be pushed up to the USMS. This one was a felon in possession of a firearm. Easily within the scope of the USMS to work. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:36:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ivan1: Gtfo with that nonsense. Are we for no knock raids? How many innocents have been killed by those when they get inside the wrong house. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ivan1: Originally Posted By RattleCanAR: Odd, all the money spent on equipping LEOs. Do they not learn to own the night and take perps in their beds? Instead the broad daylight try to take a home, in a questionable community? That makes ZERO sense and I am not a door kicker and never will be. Gtfo with that nonsense. Are we for no knock raids? How many innocents have been killed by those when they get inside the wrong house. Exactly. USMS goal is to clear an empty house after doing surround and call out to prevent those situations. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:38:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: Charlotte is run by democrats Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By Oldgold: Originally Posted By Chokker: I’m calling it now, a violent felon with a gun and the POS should have been in prison. Prayers to the Law Enforcement involved and their families. And let out by a Liberal judge or parole board. Charlotte is run by democrats The sheriff is a real piece of work too. F him. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:38:52 PM EDT
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Pics of suspect ?
Name? Why is it taking this long to get that info? |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:39:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greenranger: Pics of suspect ? Name? Why is it taking this long to get that info? It's already posted in the thread. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:39:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cranberry1: Monday morning quarter backing here but ballistic shields would have helped a whole lot . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cranberry1: Originally Posted By ricky_45: Someone had an ak Monday morning quarter backing here but ballistic shields would have helped a whole lot . Most ballistic shields you see in use are pistol caliber rated. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:42:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: 4th officer died.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_3266_jpeg-3201661.JPG That sucks. :-( |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:42:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Action45]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Back 2020, he had 16 weapons charges, murder, armed robbery, and appears to be implicated in a massive car theft operation in 2023. And that's not a complete list. If he isn't involved in this, he still needs to under a jail for the rest of his life. Sounds about right. They want more gun bans and gun laws that only impact us as law abiding citizens, but refuse to charge and prosecute these assholes with weapons offenses over & over again. Same old bullshit |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:43:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: If true, fuck the Mayor. Today is not the day, at a minimum. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Originally Posted By norseman1: Originally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By Rheinmetall792: Have I missed the full names, faces, and backgrounds of the perps? They mysteriously aren't releasing the info. With that, you know the deal. Hearing is a "brutha". Waiting on confirmation. Mayor is blaming feds already. US Marshall service is pretty pissed. If true, fuck the Mayor. Today is not the day, at a minimum. The Mayor of CLT has no authority. She's a mouth piece and pr rep. Seriously, the city council has all authority and they are all Democrats. Blame those MFers all day!!! |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:44:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Back 2020, he had 16 weapons charges, murder, armed robbery, and appears to be implicated in a massive car theft operation in 2023. And that's not a complete list. If he isn't involved in this, he still needs to under a jail for the rest of his life. Yet some here would still say he should be allowed to own and possess a firearm. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:47:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Fly: That's nice. You presume to know me and my experiences based on a spelling mistake. That's one sure fire way to spot a Fed - they make wild baseless accusations with zero evidence and can never be convinced otherwise even if you dump a mountain of contradictory evidence on their heads  I've never seen the DEA guys around here operate, or ATF, or any other Fed agency outside the 2 ones I named previously conduct themselves. Try reading what I said again. I commented on two groups I HAVE seen run ops, and the two I did observe ran their ops like ass. I've also worked with local swat on numerous ops, and the difference is night and day between them and the two Fed ops I saw. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Fly: Originally Posted By MrWhite227D: There are lots of “task forces”, most of which are DEA and FBI. I doubt you have much experience ‘first hand’ with any of them. Probably transporting for them… Certainly not a USMS TF since you can’t even spell Marshal. That's nice. You presume to know me and my experiences based on a spelling mistake. That's one sure fire way to spot a Fed - they make wild baseless accusations with zero evidence and can never be convinced otherwise even if you dump a mountain of contradictory evidence on their heads I've never seen the DEA guys around here operate, or ATF, or any other Fed agency outside the 2 ones I named previously conduct themselves. Try reading what I said again. I commented on two groups I HAVE seen run ops, and the two I did observe ran their ops like ass. I've also worked with local swat on numerous ops, and the difference is night and day between them and the two Fed ops I saw. Worked with local SWAT in what capacity? |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:50:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By southlak9cop: Yet some here would still say he should be allowed to own and possess a firearm. Well he already wasn’t allowed to have a gun, and we see how well that worked. RIP to the Officers. Sad deal.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:53:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: So original. How'd you come up with that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: These fucking unvaxxed, climate change deniers, MAGA, white supremes are at it again! So original. How'd you come up with that? |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:54:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By southlak9cop: Exactly. USMS goal is to clear an empty house after doing surround and call out to prevent those situations. From what it looks like in the articles this was an arrest warrant, not a search warrant. Taking him down as he left his house, but before he entered a vehicle, seems like standard operating procedure. If they were serving a search warrant on these guys and their records were known, a no knock would have been the proper course. Even if GD hates them. I know surround and call out is the go to method these days. I predict that will change after the first incident where the tactic creates an unnecessary hostage situation. Just my opinion, not disagreeing with you by any means. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:56:00 PM EDT
[#21]
The absurdity of the situation. Should have never happened. These (criminals) people don’t deserve another breath of air. We need to purge on a massive scale and not house and feed any of them. This isn’t a game. Use criminals bodies to feed the homeless and those on welfare. Time to do something because what is current isn’t working.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:56:08 PM EDT
[#22]
RIP to the victims
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By southlak9cop: Worked with local SWAT in what capacity? Perimeter control. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:56:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: 4th officer died. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_3266_jpeg-3201661.JPG  |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:08:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Fly: That's nice. You presume to know me and my experiences based on a spelling mistake. That's one sure fire way to spot a Fed - they make wild baseless accusations with zero evidence and can never be convinced otherwise even if you dump a mountain of contradictory evidence on their heads I've never seen the DEA guys around here operate, or ATF, or any other Fed agency outside the 2 ones I named previously conduct themselves. Try reading what I said again. I commented on two groups I HAVE seen run ops, and the two I did observe ran their ops like ass. I've also worked with local swat on numerous ops, and the difference is night and day between them and the two Fed ops I saw. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Fly: Originally Posted By MrWhite227D: There are lots of “task forces”, most of which are DEA and FBI. I doubt you have much experience ‘first hand’ with any of them. Probably transporting for them… Certainly not a USMS TF since you can’t even spell Marshal. That's nice. You presume to know me and my experiences based on a spelling mistake. That's one sure fire way to spot a Fed - they make wild baseless accusations with zero evidence and can never be convinced otherwise even if you dump a mountain of contradictory evidence on their heads I've never seen the DEA guys around here operate, or ATF, or any other Fed agency outside the 2 ones I named previously conduct themselves. Try reading what I said again. I commented on two groups I HAVE seen run ops, and the two I did observe ran their ops like ass. I've also worked with local swat on numerous ops, and the difference is night and day between them and the two Fed ops I saw. I don’t really know what you’re trying to say and not a fed. Just sounds like you observe and “work with” guys who actually do the work. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:10:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buckshot_jim: It's already posted in the thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buckshot_jim: Originally Posted By greenranger: Pics of suspect ? Name? Why is it taking this long to get that info? It's already posted in the thread. I was referring to MSM. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:24:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: We release people from prison who shouldn't be released from prison. While I may agree with your assessment in a general discussion, it wouldn't be practical unless we changed how we dealt with prison and parole. We put people in prison who should be in a hole in the ground . |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:24:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridacop: Who said they "donate" any hours? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridacop: Originally Posted By xciapup: Ask your sheriff how many man-hours he donates to FBI led task forces. When he answers, tell him zero is the only right answer. Who said they "donate" any hours? Let me rephrase. How many hours are your deputies spending on FBI task forces? |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:29:39 PM EDT
[#29]
The woke left and the anti-cop right, sure seem to have a lot in common.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:30:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:37:05 PM EDT
[#31]
A very sad day.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:37:39 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mfinaustin: The absurdity of the situation. Should have never happened. These (criminals) people don't deserve another breath of air. We need to purge on a massive scale and not house and feed any of them. This isn't a game. Use criminals bodies to feed the homeless and those on welfare. Time to do something because what is current isn't working. This situation is engineered to ensure everyone is clamoring to give the government more and more extreme powers. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:38:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: At work? Lol. In their car? Vehicle assaults are dangerous as hell, not to mention when they take off at 125mph and hit a van full of nuns. There’s no perfect answer, it’s a dangerous job and either way things can go wrong and people will Monday morning quarterback it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: At work? Lol. In their car? Vehicle assaults are dangerous as hell, not to mention when they take off at 125mph and hit a van full of nuns. There’s no perfect answer, it’s a dangerous job and either way things can go wrong and people will Monday morning quarterback it. Of course, not saying any of it's easy. That's the point. For every reason to not let them get outside, there are two reasons to not take them in an apartment building or any prepared position. Originally Posted By ThatGuy91K: You look confused. Ask a current Marshal. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:39:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By southlak9cop: Yet some here would still say he should be allowed to own and possess a firearm. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By southlak9cop: Originally Posted By atavistic: Back 2020, he had 16 weapons charges, murder, armed robbery, and appears to be implicated in a massive car theft operation in 2023. And that's not a complete list. If he isn't involved in this, he still needs to under a jail for the rest of his life. Yet some here would still say he should be allowed to own and possess a firearm. You should have your rights restored after serving your sentence. That said, a rap sheet like that, including murder, yeah he should have been executed, not paroled. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:53:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Robertpistol]
[#36]
I was wrong, he's officially identified now as - Terry Clark Hughes, Jr, 39 years old.
 https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article288117775.html If these POS's would be thrown in jail and not given slaps on the wrist which seems to be the standard now then this would be much rarer. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:54:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blue_Monkey]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Lot of broken lives tonight. 4 lost. Probably dozens that will never recover from their loss. All because of 2 or 3 pieces of shit that we should have been strong enough to eradicate from our midst years ago. A sad night, of many sad nights. Let's see how much worse politicians can make it. Not a politician but right on cue: https://x.com/StephenKing/status/1785070014246105343 |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:54:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Rest easy, brothers.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:55:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greenranger: Pics of suspect ? Name? Why is it taking this long to get that info? Why to we give a shit about the shit bags name and photo? Why you you insist on laying these sort of people on an altar? Forget them. Bag them, tag them and forget them. Remember the good people and not the POS. The sheriff in Oregon that handled the UCC shooting did this perfectly. He told the media the name of the POS wasn't important and the names of the innocent's was. That there is no reason to glorify or give note to the shit bag. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:02:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Robertpistol: I was wrong, he's officially identified now as - Terry Clark Hughes, Jr, 39 years old. https://channel3now.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Suspect-who-killed-4-law-enforcement-officers-in-Charlotte-identified-as-39-year-old-Terry-Clark-Hughes-Jr-1.png?ezimgfmt=ng%3Awebp%2Fngcb1%2Frs%3Adevice%2Frscb1-1 https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article288117775.html If these POS's would be thrown in jail and not given slaps on the wrist which seems to be the standard now then this would be much rarer. Had an Extremely lengthy criminal background.too. What a shock |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:03:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By southlak9cop: Yet some here would still say he should be allowed to own and possess a firearm. If someone is too dangerous to have firearms, they shouldn't be walking free. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:04:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMSMB: If someone is too dangerous to have firearms, they shouldn't be walking free. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMSMB: Originally Posted By southlak9cop: Yet some here would still say he should be allowed to own and possess a firearm. If someone is too dangerous to have firearms, they shouldn't be walking free. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:07:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gmtech: We put people in prison who should be in a hole in the ground . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gmtech: Originally Posted By Kingdead: We release people from prison who shouldn't be released from prison. While I may agree with your assessment in a general discussion, it wouldn't be practical unless we changed how we dealt with prison and parole. We put people in prison who should be in a hole in the ground . Yep. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:08:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deerhurst: Why to we give a shit about the shit bags name and photo? Why you you insist on laying these sort of people on an altar? Forget them. Bag them, tag them and forget them. Remember the good people and not the POS. The sheriff in Oregon that handled the UCC shooting did this perfectly. He told the media the name of the POS wasn't important and the names of the innocent's was. That there is no reason to glorify or give note to the shit bag. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deerhurst: Originally Posted By greenranger: Pics of suspect ? Name? Why is it taking this long to get that info? Why to we give a shit about the shit bags name and photo? Why you you insist on laying these sort of people on an altar? Forget them. Bag them, tag them and forget them. Remember the good people and not the POS. The sheriff in Oregon that handled the UCC shooting did this perfectly. He told the media the name of the POS wasn't important and the names of the innocent's was. That there is no reason to glorify or give note to the shit bag. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:08:44 AM EDT
[#45]
It's time to talk common sense black ex felon control
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:09:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greenranger: Yep. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greenranger: Originally Posted By gmtech: Originally Posted By Kingdead: We release people from prison who shouldn't be released from prison. While I may agree with your assessment in a general discussion, it wouldn't be practical unless we changed how we dealt with prison and parole. We put people in prison who should be in a hole in the ground . Yep. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:09:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMSMB: If someone is too dangerous to have firearms, they shouldn't be walking free. I think that comes down to idealism versus reality. Idealism: People too dangerous to have firearms shouldn’t be walking free. Reality: People too dangerous to have firearms are walking free. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:16:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLR350: I think that comes down to idealism versus reality. Idealism: People too dangerous to have firearms shouldn’t be walking free. Reality: People too dangerous to have firearms are walking free. It's the best way to counter the lefts push for banning guns... they want to ban them to keep them away from dangerous people... easy solution, don't allow people that dangerous to have the opportunity to use them.... By keeping them locked up. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:17:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Of course, not saying any of it's easy. That's the point. For every reason to not let them get outside, there are two reasons to not take them in an apartment building or any prepared position. You look confused. Ask a current Marshal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By HKocher: At work? Lol. In their car? Vehicle assaults are dangerous as hell, not to mention when they take off at 125mph and hit a van full of nuns. There’s no perfect answer, it’s a dangerous job and either way things can go wrong and people will Monday morning quarterback it. Of course, not saying any of it's easy. That's the point. For every reason to not let them get outside, there are two reasons to not take them in an apartment building or any prepared position. Originally Posted By ThatGuy91K: You look confused. Ask a current Marshal. The last 6 times I worked with them they preferred to pick up their suspects at the house where the suspects were. But please, go on. 
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NM, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:17:59 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLR350: I think that comes down to idealism versus reality. Idealism: People too dangerous to have firearms shouldn’t be walking free. Reality: People too dangerous to have firearms are walking free. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLR350: Originally Posted By BMSMB: If someone is too dangerous to have firearms, they shouldn't be walking free. I think that comes down to idealism versus reality. Idealism: People too dangerous to have firearms shouldn’t be walking free. Reality: People too dangerous to have firearms are walking free. The problem comes when politicians take their failures as a reason to disarm the innocent. Government loves to blame the wrong people. |
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