One reason is to fact check the lying media.



Christopher Sean "Chris" Harper-Mercer, the UCC shooter that CNN tried to whitewash.

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Exactly.

The truth is a dangerous game to play.

So he should have been in prison already.

Yeah, when I lived in NC if you wanted a suppressor in Charlotte you had to do a gun trust because he refused to sign off on them. Oddly enough Obama fixed that but then you had to get fingerprinted for everyone.

Charlotte is a Democrat run city.

Just terrible.

#BREAKING CMPD confirms that Officer Joshua Eyer has died from his injuries after being shot earlier today.

He leaves behind a wife and 3 year-old-boy.

Last month he was awarded officer of the month.

Please pray for his family and CMPD. pic.twitter.com/ZEyswvC2lz

— Hunter Sáenz (@Hunt_Saenz) April 30, 2024

Aren't swat entry usually first in the door for extremely violent felons like this?


Back in the early 2010s I was living in the hood apartments in SATX and a stack of like 15-20 swat and Marshals booted the neighbors door down, riot shields intact. Rifles drawn on all windows too. (I got a nice Surprise looking out my window)
I never did figure out what that was about but I never saw that neighbor again lol.


Is that not standard procedure in raids such as ones on a felon like this? How's 4 cops end up dead and multiple others shot?

District or RFTF?

My guy's in your state, maybe his TF does it differently.
It's not like USMS is all about standardization 🤷‍♂️

And then we even let them out again.

RIP to the 4 officers that were killed and I hope the wounded have a speedy recovery.

So Terry Clark Hughes and his brother both shot at and killed the officers?

And both have a significant criminal history whereas they shouldn't be out of jail if the system wasn't perverse?



Some attorneys should start going after judges who commute these sentences. Don't care if they have immunity, maybe tying them up in litigation would be good. Put some liens on their homes. etc.

The shitty thing is you make it your career and get recruited or hired on as a marshal. These guys are bad dudes (in a good way) cream of the crop. It’s absolute bullshit I have to say I’m from Charlotte where a marshal was killed and local officers killed. I haven’t felt this emotional since Sean Clark and Jeff Shelton.

They take a lot of actual beatings getting through training, you've really gotta want it.

It's a shame for the local guys too obviously.
LE has a lot of cards stacked against it.

There’s the perfect world scenario, then there’s reality.

There are so many elements at play. Catch the guy outside when he’s going to work (lol) is a good plan. Here’s the reality: he doesn’t have a job, he parks in his garage, the neighborhood isn’t conducive to physical surveillance, the neighborhood is too hot, he rarely leaves the house and you have ten other equally violent fugitives to look for this shift, he’s known to run from LE, he carries an AR pistol with him whenever he’s outside the house, there’s a search warrant in play and the case agent is looking for important evidence inside the residence, etc, etc.

For any scenario you can come up with, I can come up with ways to make it a bad day for the good guys.

In this instance it sounds like they may have done exactly what you suggested. They caught him outside his house and he still engaged them. Then they took fire from other individuals inside the house. That’s about the worst case scenario you can imagine.

This needs to happen.

Hope the victims families do this.

The 10% on the fringes from each side are always the loudest moonbats.

Quit treating these people like criminals and start treating it like a military kill/capture operation. If they don't like it they can always choose to act like humans instead of animated sacks of shit

Ya, the media doesn't like that. OIS numbers are now heavily critiqued and the admins have been known to hide guys that have been in too many shootings. I know guys that have been kicked from units for too many shootings.

High risk takedowns create a high risk of shootings. I have only shot robbers..... sure, some had kidnapping, attempted murder and so on, but when you are targeting people that are violent you should not be surprised when violence is the end result.

I had to slow down our takedowns due to risk of shootings. Think about that. That is the political game being played.

Society is going to have to choose between tolerating bad things happening to bad people or bad things happening to everyone else.

This. Democrat crime-loving prosecutors and judges need to be called out and the blood is on their hands, and they should be held accountable, both legally and financially. We don't need criminal reform, we need judicial and prosecutorial reforms...like adhering to the Constitutional and criminal codes.

We have four dead officers and several wounded because of a criminally complicit court and ideologically/politically corrupt prosecutors.  

ROCK6

Those tactics will be saved for when they are told to come for us

Any judge that kicks lose violent offenders should be forced to do the ride along and the point person when they have to be picked up the 2nd time.


RIP

FFS Google isn't hard.  The one on the left is no more "actual" than the one on the right.  CNN is shitty but shit like this makes both sides look retarded.

FWD: FWD: FWD:

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Arf doesn’t like to look in the mirror RE: fake news and ragebait.

Tyrants have no problem with killing off those who disagree with them as well as what used to be called common criminals.itveas cheap and effective and they didn't have to immediately answer to anyone for their actions. The reality in modern day USA is that a huge segment of the population doesn't support the death penalty. They'd rather have criminals out on the streets. Then they do bizarre things that aren't options for most of the population like buying up a huge part of California to build a new gated city for themselves, or they build huge SHTF compounds in places like New Zealand where they can run and hide if the world they created ends up imploding

Crazy thing is, this AM, LEOs all across the country are saddling up to repeat this same thing hundreds of times. Shit birds everywhere that wussy judges and DAs set free that a 4 year old could have told you would be breaking the law within minutes of being released.

In every profession, negligence and incompetence are punished. But not judges. Why are those that are supposed to hold everyone to account not themselves held accountable?

I get this shits emotional for a bunch of you but how about we not support trashing parts of the bill of rights. That would be swell.


ETA. Government death squads have a long and storied history of getting out of control.

What part of the bill of rights says you can commit murder and a laundry list of other crimes and still be out committing more crimes? The same people that dragged tax collectors out of their houses and tarred and feathered them would not have tolerated such a person to exist in their society. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

It's not trashing the bill of rights to actually, yknow, send people to prison when they commit violent felonies.

Attempted murder? 6 months jail. Armed robbery with repeated stabbing of victim? Probation because the perp was a minority. Arson of occupied structure? Probation again...

Anyone who's been doing this can give you a list of cases, where if the public were in a giant crowd and heard the entire criminal justice case explained from start to finish, they'd riot and lynch the judge and prosecution right there and then. It doesn't happen only because the masses don't know what's going on in court, and aren't paying attention.

The sixth and the eighth amendment.

He was already convicted.

You are skipping what I was responded to.

The suggestion was a kill or capture team to kill these people.

Unless his sentence was execution in the streets then that violates the eight amendment.

If he had been convincted and sentenced, did he break out of prison or something? Or was the arrest warrant to put him in front of a judge? If it was to go in front of a judge a kill order violates the sixth.

I'll offer some really helpful advice I picked up on this very site.  Don't support policy or laws that can be used against you. The left would orgasm if they had the mechanism to go after gun owners with kill teams.

We do not live in a banana Republic just yet. Let's not step on the gas to get us there any faster.

Went through the whole thread.

Am I blind, or is the only perp pic the fcnn rage bait?

Also googled and skimmed four, five articles, watched a video, no perp pics.

I bet they had an extensive sealed juvenile record.

If you continue to approach something that isn't a LE problem with LE you will keep filling caskets. There is no investigation needed in cases like this and sending people with an LE mindset and tactics in results in stuff like this. Back in the time of the founders chances are high they would have called out the militia and fired the house for a similar set of circumstances.

Enjoy your police state.

Fucking animals.

Cueing the George Floyd narrative and the riots.
They already have.

The problem with your logic is there is already a 2-tiered justice system. We aren't all living under the same rules. Misbehavior is forgiven and excused in many cases if the perp checks certain boxes. Glock switches galore used in a murder in Chicago? No problem. Uninstalled lighting link in the closet in Kentucky? 15 - 20 in the Fed Penn. Playing nice under the theory the Left will play nice back is pretty discredited at this point.

https://www.charlottenc.gov/cmpd/News-Information/Newsroom/Eight-Officers-Shot-One-CMPD-Officer-and-Three-U.S.-Marshals-Fugitive-Task-Force-Officers-Killed-During-Investigation-4-29-2024

Official CMPD press release.  Certainly not completely detailed but it is still very early.

I don't think taking the gloves off when dealing with violent armed criminals that have a long documented history of being violent criminals convicted by a jury over and over and over again of violent crimes is the same as dragging granny out of the house for misdemeanors. People are not equal and pretending that they need equal treatment is to deny reality.

You're referring to 1/3 of all black males.

No, they don't.  And it is anti-BAD cop.

That’s the case with most habitual felons.  I’d be curious to know what % of felons have ‘felon in possession of firearm’ charges.   In my limited experience in dealing with crystal meth head thieving felons in my rural area.. all of them have had ‘felon in possession of firearm’ charges at some point. Hell we are dealing with a shit bird now that was out on probation (felony theft, B&E, possession of firearm etc), proceeded to ransack the neighborhood here, got caught and charged with multiple more felony  b&e, and theft charges… and he is back out on bond

They say it’s because the jails are overcrowded… yet there is no shortage of funds to build parks. This country is a fucking joke.

Start making the judges famous, especially if they are elected. I've seen an agency arrest someone over 20 times only to have the judge do everything but hand them a gun and give them a buttpatt on their way out the door to commit another murder.

Ever see someone shoot a seven year old in the neck and get a personal recognizance bond? I have.

See someone kill a guy by shooting them over 20 times with a rifle and get out on a bond for $20,000? Yep, seen that one too. The guy went on to kill someone else and then rob a gun store.

Ayup. The judges and the magistrate.  

Also plan on talking to my state house rep about expanding castle doctrine and being able to protect property with lethal force.  Because if they just let the fucks out, at least give us the ability to deal with the issue.

No you don’t go into that neighborhood at night.

Maybe not the militia as such, but Sheriff's posses in 'Ye olden days' did not care about 1/100th of the niceties that this sort of violent fugitive task force has to take into consideration.  Find bad guy, bring in bad guy.  Don't stand in their way.  Aside, main target was killed, right?  What happened to brother (?) firing on cops from 2nd story window?  Or anyone else in the house?

A couple of other comments.  The problem is the judges and D.A.s installed to produce these sorts of outcomes.  Plus, where applicable, legislators doing things like reclassifying previously violent crimes as non-violent---e.g., New York and arson---then using that new non-violent status to justify paper-thin penalties on suspected criminals like removing cash bond entirely.  None of this is an accident or even negligence.  It's intentional conduct, designed create a situation where the Public will ask for increased government to fix it.  

These judges aren't voted in---even in Texas.  They're installed.  Unless you think that things like 51/49 votes for judges are just coincidence, and have more validity than a 100-98 Globetrotters basketball score.  At least DaSean Jones's worthless ass got thrown out this go-around.  "The People have spoken!"

Anyway, they can't be removed.  They enjoy near absolute immunity, with prosecutors having even greater deference.  (A cynical favorite was a prosecutor claiming immunity on a count of bribery.  I don't know if it worked.)

So they can't be meaningfully sanctioned or punished.  Or at least Republicans never seem to be able to when in charge (altering caseloads, taking away their favorite clerk, publicizing the misdeeds of this or that judicial/criminal justice official, nuking the department's budget unless they clean up their act, etc.)

And Wes forgot to mention, in his otherwise excellent list, that he and his coworkers will come down on anyone like the proverbial brick factory, should anyone even think about acting to prepare to harm a hair on any of those officials' heads.  To be fair, that sort of thing is the definition of Third World Shithole-level conduct.

You stop violent crime by incapacitating the proven habitually violent offender---the violent insane count too---and you don't let them out once identified. That works.  Even if unfortunate statistical characteristics of said violent offender pool become apparent. And despite the easily identifiable costs.  (Which, I maintain, were the real reasons behind deinstitutionalization in the 60s and 70s.)  

None of the Leftist laundry list for addressing violent crime, actually does.  They make you and me less safe.

The one on the left matches the tone in all the pics you posted.

CNN lightened the tone to a great degree.

What point are you trying to make?