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Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Nope. Chip McCormick only. I do have some Brownells, Kimber, and Wilson mags. They work. The Chips work and they feel good. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: There will be no pro mag at this house Nope. Chip McCormick only. I do have some Brownells, Kimber, and Wilson mags. They work. The Chips work and they feel good. I do Wilson first, Chip power 10 as reload |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
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A SSA loads kind of slow, and the S&W #3 has hammer reach long enough for firing to be a rather deliberate affair.
With regards to auto loaders; if it’s going to cost $1500 plus for a 15 round 9mm, I will wait till someone does it right and puts a p365 style mag in a grip frame the size of a proper 1911. |
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/2FBA5A9B-21CA-41A5-9629-5DC218BD27E6-3044339.jpg I think at this point every single gun I own is hammer-fired SAO pp -> PP It’s basically viagra in stainless steel |
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Originally Posted By Need4Guns: I just did a quick search but I see a thumb safety on all their guns. Thumb safeties on carry guns are Not to mention the fact that you overlooked I'm a poor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Need4Guns: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Platypus is what you need I just did a quick search but I see a thumb safety on all their guns. Thumb safeties on carry guns are Not to mention the fact that you overlooked I'm a poor. Yeah, wouldn’t want to have to mess with fine motor control buttons, switches, or levers on a carry gun. Like the trigger. And the magazine release. Or the slide catch. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I do Wilson first, Chip power 10 as reload View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: There will be no pro mag at this house Nope. Chip McCormick only. I do have some Brownells, Kimber, and Wilson mags. They work. The Chips work and they feel good. I do Wilson first, Chip power 10 as reload I pretty much only do Wilson ETM mags. The Chip McCormick ones I've had fell apart (Power+ 10-round and 8-round). If my Wilson mags start acting up, Wilson replaces the springs and followers free of charge. |
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: I pretty much only do Wilson ETM mags. The Chip McCormick ones I've had fell apart (Power+ 10-round and 8-round). If my Wilson mags start acting up, Wilson replaces the springs and followers free of charge. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: There will be no pro mag at this house Nope. Chip McCormick only. I do have some Brownells, Kimber, and Wilson mags. They work. The Chips work and they feel good. I do Wilson first, Chip power 10 as reload I pretty much only do Wilson ETM mags. The Chip McCormick ones I've had fell apart (Power+ 10-round and 8-round). If my Wilson mags start acting up, Wilson replaces the springs and followers free of charge. ETM is what I'm starting shooting with, agreed there |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
I’ve carried strikers for years and years.
I’m leaning DA/SA more now. Carry condition 1, but reality is I like the choice. I have 1911’s, and SAO revos. I’m not opposed. But capacity and convenience matter in a carry gun. |
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Originally Posted By MedmanKS: I’ve carried strikers for years and years. I’m leaning DA/SA more now. Carry condition 1, but reality is I like the choice. I have 1911’s, and SAO revos. I’m not opposed. But capacity and convenience matter in a carry gun. View Quote Why would you learn a gay retarded pistol action unnecessarily? You realize you can have consistent trigger pulls with other stuff that don't require you to train around stupid gay government requirements invented by retards |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Pic thread https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9371-3206672.jpg View Quote Nice angled forward grip. |
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Nice angled forward grip. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Pic thread https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9371-3206672.jpg Nice angled forward grip. This man gets it |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Why would you learn a gay retarded pistol action unnecessarily? You realize you can have consistent trigger pulls with other stuff that don't require you to train around stupid gay government requirements invented by retards View Quote Because I shoot my Sigs and 1911’s better than my Glocks. I’m not a crappy shot. But the SA trigger beats striker. Regardless of config. Plus, at some level it seems ‘right.’ It is what it is. You do you, bro. I’ll do me. |
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Originally Posted By MedmanKS: Because I shoot my Sigs and 1911’s better than my Glocks. I’m not a crappy shot. But the SA trigger beats striker. Regardless of config. Plus, at some level it seems ‘right.’ It is what it is. You do you, bro. I’ll do me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MedmanKS: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Why would you learn a gay retarded pistol action unnecessarily? You realize you can have consistent trigger pulls with other stuff that don't require you to train around stupid gay government requirements invented by retards Because I shoot my Sigs and 1911’s better than my Glocks. I’m not a crappy shot. But the SA trigger beats striker. Regardless of config. Plus, at some level it seems ‘right.’ It is what it is. You do you, bro. I’ll do me. He was talking about DA/SA… Pistol action acceptability is as follows: 1. SAO. That’s it. If you really, REALLY must, striker is ok in rare instances. DA/SA is for revolvers only |
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Originally Posted By NukeFromOrbit: Wait - they make handguns that aren't single action? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/260719430_2952635411714362_3393622871271-2245464.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/260465401_2952635121714391_7921633633743-2245461.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/938-22-1856847.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/m45a1-947426.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/p210a-915552.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/pc1-263536.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/20171102_130539-364430.jpg View Quote That Hi Power is so choice 🤤 Someone needs to gussy up one of the optics-ready/accessory rail PI HPs that Girsan makes now: https://eaacorp.com/product/girsan-mc-p35-pi-ops/ |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: That Hi Power is so choice 🤤 Someone needs to gussy up one of the optics-ready/accessory rail PI HPs that Girsan makes now: https://eaacorp.com/product/girsan-mc-p35-pi-ops/ View Quote I've considered sending my surplus Argentinian in to get cut for a dot. |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Pic thread https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9371-3206672.jpg View Quote I wish I had waited for the external extractor guns to come out. I need to send mine off to gray guns for their fix so I can squeeze some more life out of it before I break something I can't replace. They are sweet shooters Attached File |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Yeah there's no solutions only compromises. 1911s feel perfect in your hand but you only get 10. 2011s aren't as good but they shoot sweet and you get 20. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Platypus should be thinner than 2011 because it's 1911/G17 based. Again, haven't shot one but it seems awesome. Have someone bring one to Keystone III, I'll bring a caliper. I would think the platypus would be thicker because the glock magazine has a thick polymer exoskeleton. Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I legit still break it out even when I'm going to use another specific solvent out of tradition and to smell it. Weren't you the one who gave me the hoppes air freshener for my truck? Didn't last very long but I liked it. I was just handling Staccato's and Platypi next to each other about a week ago. The grips are pretty similar, but the Platypus seems a tad thicker. Similar to a G17 grip. That's the sad reality of the double stack / 2011... No way to match the perfection that is the original 1911 grip. Yeah there's no solutions only compromises. 1911s feel perfect in your hand but you only get 10. 2011s aren't as good but they shoot sweet and you get 20. Speaking of compromises... One of the reasons I stopped carrying a full size 1911 so much, is there isn't a good way to carry 10 round mags. They stick up too far with the standard belt holder. Young boomers like me would rejoice at finding a solution. Carrying 3 mags for 25 rounds just feels retarded. |
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: ProMag 15-round https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/Promag_1911_15-round_Magazine_jpg-3206618.JPG 40-round https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/Promag_1911_Drum_Magazine_jpg-3206619.JPG Just need da beamz View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: There's a member here who has a ridiculous extended 1911 mag he bought at a gun show and I'm ashamed I can't remember who. It's like a 30 round single stack 45 mag and it's amazing ProMag 15-round https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/Promag_1911_15-round_Magazine_jpg-3206618.JPG 40-round https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/Promag_1911_Drum_Magazine_jpg-3206619.JPG Just need da beamz Find a good way to carry that 15 rounder around, and I'm sold on the 8+1 with the 15 round reload for carry. 24 rounds of 45 AARP should get the job done. My plastic wonder carry micro pistol is only 27 with a reload. And that's in 9mm Eurofag. Edit I want it noted that post #4545 was about carrying a 1911. |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: He was talking about DA/SA… Pistol action acceptability is as follows: 1. SAO. That’s it. If you really, REALLY must, striker is ok in rare instances. DA/SA is for revolvers only View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By MedmanKS: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Why would you learn a gay retarded pistol action unnecessarily? You realize you can have consistent trigger pulls with other stuff that don't require you to train around stupid gay government requirements invented by retards Because I shoot my Sigs and 1911’s better than my Glocks. I’m not a crappy shot. But the SA trigger beats striker. Regardless of config. Plus, at some level it seems ‘right.’ It is what it is. You do you, bro. I’ll do me. He was talking about DA/SA… Pistol action acceptability is as follows: 1. SAO. That’s it. If you really, REALLY must, striker is ok in rare instances. DA/SA is for revolvers only This guy fucks When I wanna remember what kind of triggers to not ever buy again; I pull my HK USP out of the safe, dry fire it a couple of times, throw up in my mouth, and put it right back. |
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Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Speaking of compromises... One of the reasons I stopped carrying a full size 1911 so much, is there isn't a good way to carry 10 round mags. They stick up too far with the standard belt holder. Young boomers like me would rejoice at finding a solution. Carrying 3 mags for 25 rounds just feels retarded. View Quote There's mag carriers out now that you can adjust the angle making those 10-rounders less vertical. That could be a solution. I just carry two 8-rounders instead. |
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Originally Posted By GimpyPaw: I tell people to make sure they have at least 1 pro mag for their gun. When we're at the range we will slip a pro mag in with the other mags. Great way to practice clearing malfunctions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GimpyPaw: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: There will be no pro mag at this house I tell people to make sure they have at least 1 pro mag for their gun. When we're at the range we will slip a pro mag in with the other mags. Great way to practice clearing malfunctions. I’ve been meaning to get a Promag for the X-Five for exactly this reason. I can’t get it to malfunction any other way |
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Originally Posted By Caboose314: I wish I had waited for the external extractor guns to come out. I need to send mine off to gray guns for their fix so I can squeeze some more life out of it before I break something I can't replace. They are sweet shooters https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/187062/1000008032_jpg-3206686.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Caboose314: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Pic thread https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9371-3206672.jpg I wish I had waited for the external extractor guns to come out. I need to send mine off to gray guns for their fix so I can squeeze some more life out of it before I break something I can't replace. They are sweet shooters https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/187062/1000008032_jpg-3206686.JPG I’m not particularly a Sig enthusiast/historian or anything so I’m not completely familiar with all the differences. Yours is a German Mastershop X5? The first generation right? |
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: I pretty much only do Wilson ETM mags. The Chip McCormick ones I've had fell apart (Power+ 10-round and 8-round). If my Wilson mags start acting up, Wilson replaces the springs and followers free of charge. View Quote The 500BC-HD is my favorite 1911 mag, but I wish Wilson followers were more like Tripps with a metal engagement surface for the slide stop instead of plastic. One of the cool things about living in 2024 is that there are a shitload of good 1911 magazines out there: Wilson, Tripp, Chip, Mec-Gar, Checkmate, Metalform... Promags not included. |
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Originally Posted By NukeFromOrbit: Wait - they make handguns that aren't single action? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/260719430_2952635411714362_3393622871271-2245464.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/260465401_2952635121714391_7921633633743-2245461.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/938-22-1856847.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/m45a1-947426.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/p210a-915552.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/pc1-263536.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211357/20171102_130539-364430.jpg View Quote To the everlasting shame of the gun companies, yes they do Nice guns bro |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By Rudukai13: He was talking about DA/SA… Pistol action acceptability is as follows: 1. SAO. That’s it. If you really, REALLY must, striker is ok in rare instances. DA/SA is for revolvers only View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By MedmanKS: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Why would you learn a gay retarded pistol action unnecessarily? You realize you can have consistent trigger pulls with other stuff that don't require you to train around stupid gay government requirements invented by retards Because I shoot my Sigs and 1911’s better than my Glocks. I’m not a crappy shot. But the SA trigger beats striker. Regardless of config. Plus, at some level it seems ‘right.’ It is what it is. You do you, bro. I’ll do me. He was talking about DA/SA… Pistol action acceptability is as follows: 1. SAO. That’s it. If you really, REALLY must, striker is ok in rare instances. DA/SA is for revolvers only Based |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By 11boomboom: There's mag carriers out now that you can adjust the angle making those 10-rounders less vertical. That could be a solution. I just carry two 8-rounders instead. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Speaking of compromises... One of the reasons I stopped carrying a full size 1911 so much, is there isn't a good way to carry 10 round mags. They stick up too far with the standard belt holder. Young boomers like me would rejoice at finding a solution. Carrying 3 mags for 25 rounds just feels retarded. There's mag carriers out now that you can adjust the angle making those 10-rounders less vertical. That could be a solution. I just carry two 8-rounders instead. Jmcustom makes an iwb pouch that you can set deeper. The top of the 10rd mag is at the same hight as an 8rder |
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Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert: I heard there was a SAO party! https://i.postimg.cc/YCp2CsyR/20220429-132400-1.jpg View Quote Welcome fren |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By Rudukai13: I’m not particularly a Sig enthusiast/historian or anything so I’m not completely familiar with all the differences. Yours is a German Mastershop X5? The first generation right? View Quote Yeah it's a first generation "tactical" model X-Five from the German shop. Great shooter, but they came with an internal extractor that only lasted about 10k rounds and replacements are unobtanium. Gray guns offers a service to cut the slide to use a better extractor, I need to do that before they run out of their custom extractors. |
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Originally Posted By Caboose314: Yeah it's a first generation "tactical" model X-Five from the German shop. Great shooter, but they came with an internal extractor that only lasted about 10k rounds and replacements are unobtanium. Gray guns offers a service to cut the slide to use a better extractor, I need to do that before they run out of their custom extractors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Caboose314: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: I’m not particularly a Sig enthusiast/historian or anything so I’m not completely familiar with all the differences. Yours is a German Mastershop X5? The first generation right? Yeah it's a first generation "tactical" model X-Five from the German shop. Great shooter, but they came with an internal extractor that only lasted about 10k rounds and replacements are unobtanium. Gray guns offers a service to cut the slide to use a better extractor, I need to do that before they run out of their custom extractors. Do you know what your current round count is? |
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I became apostate in 1987 when I bought a Gen 1 Glock.
When I became a cop I was issued a S&W Model 10 and saw that I had pined in sin and error my whole life. I realized I had become a racially, intellectually and morally superior, (though modest and unassuming) being thenceforth. I try not to judge too harshly those that need the crutch of a single action trigger to be able to meet what passes for them as minimum proficiency standards, as they are merely Mundanes. |
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I try not to judge too harshly those that need the crutch of a single action trigger to be able to meet what passes for them as minimum proficiency standards, as they are merely Mundanes. View Quote I saw a one-legged man recently, he was walking down the street with a crutch, and he was really moving fast. Is he one of your merely Mundanes? |
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Originally Posted By grendelbane: I saw a one-legged man recently, he was walking down the street with a crutch, and he was really moving fast. Is he one of your merely Mundanes? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By grendelbane: I try not to judge too harshly those that need the crutch of a single action trigger to be able to meet what passes for them as minimum proficiency standards, as they are merely Mundanes. I saw a one-legged man recently, he was walking down the street with a crutch, and he was really moving fast. Is he one of your merely Mundanes? |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Did you think about doing an 800? Or did I just pull that out of my ass? Was that during the "how mean is this course going to be?" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By dlm1984: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I stand corrected. Why are you standing? Computers and phones are better enjoyed sitting down. Did you think about doing an 800? Or did I just pull that out of my ass? Was that during the "how mean is this course going to be?" @WhiskersTheCat - Yes, I believe I floated the idea of going to 800, and possibly 880 so we could claim a half mile shot. But the targets on that range aren't particularly generous, and I wanted to keep it to shots that I can generally make with a first or second round impact during typical match conditions, so 700-ish was where I drew the line. |
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Originally Posted By dlm1984: @WhiskersTheCat - Yes, I believe I floated the idea of going to 800, and possibly 880 so we could claim a half mile shot. But the targets on that range aren't particularly generous, and I wanted to keep it to shots that I can generally make with a first or second round impact during typical match conditions, so 700-ish was where I drew the line. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dlm1984: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By dlm1984: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I stand corrected. Why are you standing? Computers and phones are better enjoyed sitting down. Did you think about doing an 800? Or did I just pull that out of my ass? Was that during the "how mean is this course going to be?" @WhiskersTheCat - Yes, I believe I floated the idea of going to 800, and possibly 880 so we could claim a half mile shot. But the targets on that range aren't particularly generous, and I wanted to keep it to shots that I can generally make with a first or second round impact during typical match conditions, so 700-ish was where I drew the line. We still went above the effective range for MK262 which I think is 700 |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Silly Sammy Slick sipped six sodas and got sick sick sick.
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Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Effective is subjective. Just depends on what you need the bullets to do when it gets there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: We still went above the effective range for MK262 which I think is 700 Effective is subjective. Just depends on what you need the bullets to do when it gets there. Sir |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By Rudukai13: My pistol is basically nothing but an amalgamation of several crutches. Steel frame for less recoil? Crutch. Optic? Crutch. Light, crisp SAO trigger? Crutch. WML for additional non-reciprocating weight and target identification in shitty light? Crutch. Extended magazines for accuracy by volume? Crutch. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9118-3169473.jpg Somehow, I’m weirdly ok with it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By feudist: I became apostate in 1987 when I bought a Gen 1 Glock. When I became a cop I was issued a S&W Model 10 and saw that I had pined in sin and error my whole life. I realized I had become a racially, intellectually and morally superior, (though modest and unassuming) being thenceforth. I try not to judge too harshly those that need the crutch of a single action trigger to be able to meet what passes for them as minimum proficiency standards, as they are merely Mundanes. My pistol is basically nothing but an amalgamation of several crutches. Steel frame for less recoil? Crutch. Optic? Crutch. Light, crisp SAO trigger? Crutch. WML for additional non-reciprocating weight and target identification in shitty light? Crutch. Extended magazines for accuracy by volume? Crutch. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9118-3169473.jpg Somehow, I’m weirdly ok with it Based |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Partial to the 1911 and CZ SA styles. Very ergonomic.
CZ 75 Compact with Cajun Gun Works internals |
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