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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:55:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kihn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By st0newall: some americans found hitler and the nazi party as good prior to the war. lindberg was a good example of someone enthralled by the fuhrer. Some Americans thought Slavery, the KKK and Jim Crow laws were a good idea too. One of them was the POTUS. Democrats. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:57:27 AM EDT
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Later, assholes.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:16:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: I think the headline serves the interests of liberals, because of how it specifically characterizes MAGA and links it with Russia in peoples minds. So it serves as 'evidence' of the fake collusion narrative. If it was russian propaganda, I think it would probably look more like this: https://www.rt.com/russia/597079-british-soldier-russian-army/, notice how it doesnt focus on him being conservative party or any of the internal politics stuff, it characterizes him as being british and then upset over banderists burning people alive in odessa. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. I think the headline serves the interests of liberals, because of how it specifically characterizes MAGA and links it with Russia in peoples minds. So it serves as 'evidence' of the fake collusion narrative. If it was russian propaganda, I think it would probably look more like this: https://www.rt.com/russia/597079-british-soldier-russian-army/, notice how it doesnt focus on him being conservative party or any of the internal politics stuff, it characterizes him as being british and then upset over banderists burning people alive in odessa. Check my ETA. The whole idea of Russia being like 1950s USA is straight from the Kremlin. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:18:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: And he's what, gone? AR15.com is a banned site there and they have also banned VPNs. Soooo Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: Originally Posted By Tuco22: As was mentioned earlier in the thread we literally had a member here do just that, even posted about how much better it was over there.  And he's what, gone? AR15.com is a banned site there and they have also banned VPNs. Soooo You can still use VPNs there. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:19:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: It's certainly in line with the Democrat "Russia collusion " nonsense and consistently supports the propaganda they've been doing since 2016 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: I am, we just disagree on the goal of such an article. Considering this story is right in line with Russian propaganda- even directly from Putin's mouth and advertisements from Russian sources directed at Americans. It seems more likely that this is in fact Russian propaganda, not liberals trying to somehow associate conservatives with Russia which really serves no purpose for them, and sadly conservatives seem to do well enough on their own anyway. I don't think anyone is falling for the part in bold What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. It's certainly in line with the Democrat "Russia collusion " nonsense and consistently supports the propaganda they've been doing since 2016 It's also in line with ACTUAL shit I've heard plenty of conservatives say about how christian and conservative Russia is so... |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:20:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RolandofGilead]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: Not implying anything. Just stating if he's not around anymore that's likely why. I think the VPN law got passed in '21 or '22. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: Originally Posted By Tuco22: Probably why he's not around anymore, doesn't change the fact he posted what he did. Maybe you're implying he, or i, are full of shit? Only place i know to read his posts anymore are in the early pages of the main Ukraine thread. Not implying anything. Just stating if he's not around anymore that's likely why. I think the VPN law got passed in '21 or '22. I was in Russia in '22 and used a VPN and posted here, from there. ETA- some are indeed banned, but people still use others...it's one of those "you can't stop the signal Mal" type situations. Bottom line is it absolutely does not explain his disappearance. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:20:57 AM EDT
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That's a shitty attempt at propaganda.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:28:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: This. WTF lol Yea i mean the only bits of rrussia that i coould see of intrest to some would be out in the middle of nowhere siberia annd just dissapear, but then again one could do that i Alaska while having the freedom to own th tools to defend yourself and feed yourself etc. So because alaska exists and has ssentialy the same climate as most oof russia, why bother with th hassle of moving there? sorry for thee many typos, my work laptop has screwed up keys. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:30:11 AM EDT
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There are left wing freaks who have moved to Russia as well, because they think it's going to go back to Communism.
That article is pure left wing propaganda latching on to a few mentally ill individuals, associating them with MAGA, and trying to paint those who support Donald Trump as "unAmerican," which is laughable coming from the left. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:33:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: elgin25]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeSSS: Those who moved in the 20's and 30's were celebrated and after a few years liquidated. The USSR didn't want people who betrayed their home nations. Too be fair though, not everyone at that time would have had the USA as their home nation, as we were getting people from all over at that time and definately before it, I mean how many people in this countries parents where likely from somewhere in Europe or Asia? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:35:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: No question the US is a shitshow. Unfortunately, almost every where else in the world is worse. Most of western Europe is an effeminate, extremely gay version of the US. If I wanted to move, probably Poland, Hungary, Romania, the Czech Republic maybe. NFW Russia. Hell with how wide open and very low population levels are in Mongolia, that wouldnt bee a terribl choice either. Or Hungary, theey aren't having any of the wokee BS there either. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:35:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By st0newall: some americans found hitler and the nazi party as good prior to the war. lindberg was a good example of someone enthralled by the fuhrer. So did the father of the Kennedy clan. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:35:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:36:33 AM EDT
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wonder how Russia hasn't conscripted them into fighting for them in Ukraine?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:39:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BSmith79: lol at some 62 year old nerd with a fantasy of marrying a hot young Russian woman and starting a family. This. These guys aren't MAGA. They're Mega-simps. Their only hope is one of those starving Russian super models get desperate enough to grudge-fuck an annoying, obese elderly Ex-pat for a few years, basically for food. Classy. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:39:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elgin25: wonder how Russia hasn't conscripted them into fighting for them in Ukraine? I seem to recall reading something about Russia conscripting non-citizen residents a while back. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:40:21 AM EDT
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Lol, bullshit.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:41:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elgin25: wonder how Russia hasn't conscripted them into fighting for them in Ukraine? Because it’s made up. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:42:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Because they’re tards who lack critical thinking abilities and swallowed Kremlin propaganda spoon fed to them by bought off pay-triots like Alexi Joneskov, Hal Turner, Cucker Tarlson, Gereald Celente, and the like. “buH, pUtIn iS A cHRIstIaN fiGht”en Fer aLL ‘MerICaNs’ riGHTs ‘GAiNsT dA gLObAListS.” He is no Christian, and will never see the throne of God except to be judged. There is a special place in hell populated by Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, and other human debris. They can hardly wait to add Putin to the fire. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:45:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperSixOne:  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperSixOne: ex-pat Peter Frohwein, 62.. is divorced with no kids, but has hopes of starting up a family. He moved from Atlanta to Yalta in the Crimea in July 2023 I thought the Ukrainian bride thing was about green cards for the ladies. How does he plan to attract his Slavic siren if he can't offer her anything to loot in the divorce nine minutes after the green card is issued? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:46:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RRA_223: This. These guys aren't MAGA. They're Mega-simps. Their only hope is one of those starving Russian super models get desperate enough to grudge-fuck an annoying, obese elderly Ex-pat for a few years, basically for food. Classy. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:54:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: The Arfcom guy who moved to russia was. He stated he was upset over how America was going. There’s also the active duty army guy who was a trump guy and thought nato was an aggressor and went to Russia..subsequently got arrested. The walls are closing in on Blonald Blumpffff! |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:58:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: I invite as many people as possible to go. Please, go and then mock us for not following! You’ll prove us all wrong. It will be great! Please, please, go. I am willing to set up GoFundMes for all those that want to go. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:02:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seek2: That's been extrapolated by the propaganda mills that all MAGA supporters love Russian and want to move there. Wrapped up in a headline so that low-information people see MAGA=Russia. Meanwhile, the actual stats for ALL citizens of the US (presumably a mix of (D) and (R) and independents) living in Russia right now is 4,600, having moved there sometime over the average lifetime. Which is ~ .0013%, and if you adjust for moves in the past 4 years when MAGA people would move.. it's 5% of that number: 0.000065%. Statistically speaking, zero. So the story headline is for sure complete and utter bullshit. True, it is near zero. However, a few are there and we lost nothing but fools and spies. By any definition, human garbage. They should fit right in with the corrupt Russian society. As Snowden has discovered, he arrived in hell a bit early. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:04:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: Propa Propa Propaganda.... I can almost tell you where this Daily Mail Article came from in terms of their language and citations. Yes, propaganda. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:04:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thunder900: Then why is Lenin still on display in Moscow next to Putin's residence. And don't get me started on those "Victory Day" parades, they are Soviet throwback days. Putin loves the smell of rotted flesh. He could care less whose. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:06:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Check my ETA. The whole idea of Russia being like 1950s USA is straight from the Kremlin. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. I think the headline serves the interests of liberals, because of how it specifically characterizes MAGA and links it with Russia in peoples minds. So it serves as 'evidence' of the fake collusion narrative. If it was russian propaganda, I think it would probably look more like this: https://www.rt.com/russia/597079-british-soldier-russian-army/, notice how it doesnt focus on him being conservative party or any of the internal politics stuff, it characterizes him as being british and then upset over banderists burning people alive in odessa. Check my ETA. The whole idea of Russia being like 1950s USA is straight from the Kremlin. Russia has never been, nor will it ever be, like America......no matter what they think |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:11:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigBurkeyBoy: Are... are you serious? Did you sleep through 1989-1991? What do you think happened during those years? God I swear the number of boomers who think Russia is still communist amazes me. They rewrote some of the lyrics to the national anthem and convinced a few liberal psuedointellectual morons that they were all different and warm and cuddly now? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:15:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: I think it’s safe to say that Russia won the info war They are very good at long term ideological subversion, but oddly terrible at any other form of Propaganda. The guys quoted in the story, are typical GDers. Bitter, Old, Childless and Divorced. Nobody wants to be that guy. They should have quoted people that were succeeding at life.  Former KGB Agent, Yuri Bezmenov, Warns America About Socialist Subversion |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:21:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BSmith79: lol at some 62 year old nerd with a fantasy of marrying a hot young Russian woman and starting a family. They want to come here, not import some boomer with a suitcase full of Cialis. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:00:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: They are very good at long term ideological subversion, but oddly terrible at any other form of Propaganda. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By PacNW5: I think it's safe to say that Russia won the info war They are very good at long term ideological subversion, but oddly terrible at any other form of Propaganda. There's a great series of papers called the "Russian Firehose of Propaganda" or something similar. The idea is that they absolutely inundate the information space with so much propaganda you lose track of what is and what isn't. The quality of most of it is irrelevant, most people that aren't retarded can dismiss the poor quality information quite easily. The idea is that you can dismiss the poor quality propaganda easily, but you let your guard down when it comes to the higher quality propaganda. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:02:39 PM EDT
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I'm not going to move to that third world country, but I will say that the handful of Russian immigrants I work with or know through Church are all outstanding conservative people.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: There's a great series of papers called the "Russian Firehose of Propaganda" or something similar. The idea is that they absolutely inundate the information space with so much propaganda you lose track of what is and what isn't. The quality of most of it is irrelevant, most people that aren't retarded can dismiss the poor quality information quite easily. The idea is that you can dismiss the poor quality propaganda easily, but you let your guard down when it comes to the higher quality propaganda. It's called the Firehose of Falsehood. The term was made up by RAND in 2016 and the wiki for that term is like a litany of CIA causes from the last decade. Trump, etc The idea for Firehose of Falsehood is not even original. RAND seems to have lifted that from the internet creationist vs atheist war, because the definition is a near copy paste of Gish Gallop, named after a creationist who used funny debate tactics. This is a big time case of "The left can't meme". They are going to search through all the memes that arose from some internet phenomenon, change a few words to say Trump or Russia, then publish it like an academic finding. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:04:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: Propa Propa Propaganda.... |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:15:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ben: Oddly, while I am no fan of Russia, it certainly seems they are actually less Socialist than we are at this point. Far more openly corrupt. But less socialist. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ben: Originally Posted By Dabster: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tarn-1226108-887.jpg Russia hasn’t been ‘Communist’ for at least 30 years. Oddly, while I am no fan of Russia, it certainly seems they are actually less Socialist than we are at this point. Far more openly corrupt. But less socialist. Patently absurd. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:16:36 PM EDT
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That is SME weakass propaganda
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:24:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: It's called the Firehose of Falsehood. The term was made up by RAND in 2016 and the wiki for that term is like a litany of CIA causes from the last decade. Trump, etc The idea for Firehose of Falsehood is not even original. RAND seems to have lifted that from the internet creationist vs atheist war, because the definition is a near copy paste of Gish Gallop, named after a creationist who used funny debate tactics. This is a big time case of "The left can't meme". They are going to search through all the memes that arose from some internet phenomenon, change a few words to say Trump or Russia, then publish it like an academic finding. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: There's a great series of papers called the "Russian Firehose of Propaganda" or something similar. The idea is that they absolutely inundate the information space with so much propaganda you lose track of what is and what isn't. The quality of most of it is irrelevant, most people that aren't retarded can dismiss the poor quality information quite easily. The idea is that you can dismiss the poor quality propaganda easily, but you let your guard down when it comes to the higher quality propaganda. It's called the Firehose of Falsehood. The term was made up by RAND in 2016 and the wiki for that term is like a litany of CIA causes from the last decade. Trump, etc The idea for Firehose of Falsehood is not even original. RAND seems to have lifted that from the internet creationist vs atheist war, because the definition is a near copy paste of Gish Gallop, named after a creationist who used funny debate tactics. This is a big time case of "The left can't meme". They are going to search through all the memes that arose from some internet phenomenon, change a few words to say Trump or Russia, then publish it like an academic finding. It's a pretty good term to describe exactly what Russia does. I never said it was original, I said it's a good series of papers. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:31:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: It's also in line with ACTUAL shit I've heard plenty of conservatives say about how christian and conservative Russia is so... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: I am, we just disagree on the goal of such an article. Considering this story is right in line with Russian propaganda- even directly from Putin's mouth and advertisements from Russian sources directed at Americans. It seems more likely that this is in fact Russian propaganda, not liberals trying to somehow associate conservatives with Russia which really serves no purpose for them, and sadly conservatives seem to do well enough on their own anyway. I don't think anyone is falling for the part in bold What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. It's certainly in line with the Democrat "Russia collusion " nonsense and consistently supports the propaganda they've been doing since 2016 It's also in line with ACTUAL shit I've heard plenty of conservatives say about how christian and conservative Russia is so... Hmmm...one is a line we have seen from elected politicians and media pundits on air for years and the other might be a few morons that you know. Which is more widespread and established? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:34:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BillofRights]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: I've worked with a few Americans who lived and worked in Russia for years. They were fine. It's just another country. Some of you need to turn off your TV and leave your mom's basement more often. A funny little thing happened a couple years ago. You should learn something about it before you pontificate about the good old days. Things change. We wish they didn’t, but they do. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:37:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: Hmmm...one is a line we have seen from elected politicians and media pundits on air for years and the other might be a few morons that you know. Which is more widespread and established? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: I am, we just disagree on the goal of such an article. Considering this story is right in line with Russian propaganda- even directly from Putin's mouth and advertisements from Russian sources directed at Americans. It seems more likely that this is in fact Russian propaganda, not liberals trying to somehow associate conservatives with Russia which really serves no purpose for them, and sadly conservatives seem to do well enough on their own anyway. I don't think anyone is falling for the part in bold What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. It's certainly in line with the Democrat "Russia collusion " nonsense and consistently supports the propaganda they've been doing since 2016 It's also in line with ACTUAL shit I've heard plenty of conservatives say about how christian and conservative Russia is so... Hmmm...one is a line we have seen from elected politicians and media pundits on air for years and the other might be a few morons that you know. Which is more widespread and established? Sad to say it's a lot more than just a few morons. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:38:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Sad to say it's a lot more than just a few morons. Why is that "sad?" 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:41:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Why is that "sad?" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Sad to say it's a lot more than just a few morons. Why is that "sad?" That so many conservatives have seemingly fallen for really poor and obvious Russian propaganda? I think that's sad 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:44:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Sad to say it's a lot more than just a few morons. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: I am, we just disagree on the goal of such an article. Considering this story is right in line with Russian propaganda- even directly from Putin's mouth and advertisements from Russian sources directed at Americans. It seems more likely that this is in fact Russian propaganda, not liberals trying to somehow associate conservatives with Russia which really serves no purpose for them, and sadly conservatives seem to do well enough on their own anyway. I don't think anyone is falling for the part in bold What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. It's certainly in line with the Democrat "Russia collusion " nonsense and consistently supports the propaganda they've been doing since 2016 It's also in line with ACTUAL shit I've heard plenty of conservatives say about how christian and conservative Russia is so... Hmmm...one is a line we have seen from elected politicians and media pundits on air for years and the other might be a few morons that you know. Which is more widespread and established? Sad to say it's a lot more than just a few morons. I don't know a single one. I guess you need a better class of friends. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:47:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: I don't know a single one. I guess you need a better class of friends. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: I am, we just disagree on the goal of such an article. Considering this story is right in line with Russian propaganda- even directly from Putin's mouth and advertisements from Russian sources directed at Americans. It seems more likely that this is in fact Russian propaganda, not liberals trying to somehow associate conservatives with Russia which really serves no purpose for them, and sadly conservatives seem to do well enough on their own anyway. I don't think anyone is falling for the part in bold What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. It's certainly in line with the Democrat "Russia collusion " nonsense and consistently supports the propaganda they've been doing since 2016 It's also in line with ACTUAL shit I've heard plenty of conservatives say about how christian and conservative Russia is so... Hmmm...one is a line we have seen from elected politicians and media pundits on air for years and the other might be a few morons that you know. Which is more widespread and established? Sad to say it's a lot more than just a few morons. I don't know a single one. I guess you need a better class of friends. Why would you assume they're my friends? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:48:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: That so many conservatives have seemingly fallen for really poor and obvious Russian propaganda? I think that's sad Think of it as reverse brain drain. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:49:59 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Why would you assume they're my friends? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: I am, we just disagree on the goal of such an article. Considering this story is right in line with Russian propaganda- even directly from Putin's mouth and advertisements from Russian sources directed at Americans. It seems more likely that this is in fact Russian propaganda, not liberals trying to somehow associate conservatives with Russia which really serves no purpose for them, and sadly conservatives seem to do well enough on their own anyway. I don't think anyone is falling for the part in bold What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. It's certainly in line with the Democrat "Russia collusion " nonsense and consistently supports the propaganda they've been doing since 2016 It's also in line with ACTUAL shit I've heard plenty of conservatives say about how christian and conservative Russia is so... Hmmm...one is a line we have seen from elected politicians and media pundits on air for years and the other might be a few morons that you know. Which is more widespread and established? Sad to say it's a lot more than just a few morons. I don't know a single one. I guess you need a better class of friends. Why would you assume they're my friends? Beats me. You said you were in Russia in 2022, how do we know you aren't the Russian mole? There is a war on, doncha know. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:53:32 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Newflash - all Soviet Communism was by the 80's was a corrupt oligarchy that benefited the top grifters, which is exactly what Russia still is now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Thunder900: That is just as dumb as Queers for Palestine. 'Christians' idolizing a Communist regime. It's not communist. It's russian. A corrupt oligarchy run by the filthy rich. They aren't what they were in the USSR. The communist system finally collapsed because we stopped supporting it and instead of givng them something like an open market, we (the west) broke up their economy as it was, effectively destroying it, and than ... walked away without helping them become an open market. So the criminals took over and now they have a criminal run economy and politics with a strongman at the top. You know. Russian? As for christian - no, it's not a christian state. They have a state church, the russian orthox, and they pollute and negate it via its involvement in the state (that is how ALL state churches work) meaning it's effectively a non-christian church. If you try and go there and be anything but politically corrupted russian orthodox, you're going to get abused and squashed - *by law.* In the soviet era the russians tried the social insanity and found out it didn't work and they pulled back from it very quickly. However, the damage had already been done. Even the american left realized this, in the 1920s: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1926/07/the-russian-effort-to-abolish-marriage/306295/ Newflash - all Soviet Communism was by the 80's was a corrupt oligarchy that benefited the top grifters, which is exactly what Russia still is now. Newsflash: And communism was also collectivistic by teaching and practice where the russian kleptocracy is not now, it was also by party platform and practice secularistic, which russia is not now (they went back to the old state in bed with official state church stuff) and they also did a bunch of stuff in the communist era that made things economically worse than than they are now. Russian does not mean communist. Unlike leftists, I know that words actually mean things. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:55:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: Beats me. You said you were in Russia in 2022, how do we know you aren't the Russian mole? There is a war on, doncha know. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NavyDoc1: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: I am, we just disagree on the goal of such an article. Considering this story is right in line with Russian propaganda- even directly from Putin's mouth and advertisements from Russian sources directed at Americans. It seems more likely that this is in fact Russian propaganda, not liberals trying to somehow associate conservatives with Russia which really serves no purpose for them, and sadly conservatives seem to do well enough on their own anyway. I don't think anyone is falling for the part in bold What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. It's certainly in line with the Democrat "Russia collusion " nonsense and consistently supports the propaganda they've been doing since 2016 It's also in line with ACTUAL shit I've heard plenty of conservatives say about how christian and conservative Russia is so... Hmmm...one is a line we have seen from elected politicians and media pundits on air for years and the other might be a few morons that you know. Which is more widespread and established? Sad to say it's a lot more than just a few morons. I don't know a single one. I guess you need a better class of friends. Why would you assume they're my friends? Beats me. You said you were in Russia in 2022, how do we know you aren't the Russian mole? There is a war on, doncha know. There wasn't then 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:56:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Newsflash: And communism was also collectivistic by teaching and practice where the russian kleptocracy is not now, it was also by party platform and practice secularistic, which russia is not now (they went back to the old state in bed with official state church stuff) and they also did a bunch of stuff in the communist era that made things economically worse than than they are now. Russian does not mean communist. Unlike leftists, I know that words actually mean things. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Thunder900: That is just as dumb as Queers for Palestine. 'Christians' idolizing a Communist regime. It's not communist. It's russian. A corrupt oligarchy run by the filthy rich. They aren't what they were in the USSR. The communist system finally collapsed because we stopped supporting it and instead of givng them something like an open market, we (the west) broke up their economy as it was, effectively destroying it, and than ... walked away without helping them become an open market. So the criminals took over and now they have a criminal run economy and politics with a strongman at the top. You know. Russian? As for christian - no, it's not a christian state. They have a state church, the russian orthox, and they pollute and negate it via its involvement in the state (that is how ALL state churches work) meaning it's effectively a non-christian church. If you try and go there and be anything but politically corrupted russian orthodox, you're going to get abused and squashed - *by law.* In the soviet era the russians tried the social insanity and found out it didn't work and they pulled back from it very quickly. However, the damage had already been done. Even the american left realized this, in the 1920s: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1926/07/the-russian-effort-to-abolish-marriage/306295/ Newflash - all Soviet Communism was by the 80's was a corrupt oligarchy that benefited the top grifters, which is exactly what Russia still is now. Newsflash: And communism was also collectivistic by teaching and practice where the russian kleptocracy is not now, it was also by party platform and practice secularistic, which russia is not now (they went back to the old state in bed with official state church stuff) and they also did a bunch of stuff in the communist era that made things economically worse than than they are now. Russian does not mean communist. Unlike leftists, I know that words actually mean things. Russia was and is a kelptocracy. Keep soft defending Russia though. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:56:55 PM EDT
[#50]
LOFL
I am absolutely convinced that a number of people are leaving the US for Russia because of Putin propaganda. Now I will wait for the YoookBois to come scream SEE RUSSIA BAD JUST LIKE BAD ORANGE MAN! |
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