Reason #187 why I hate  my State Government.  Fuck Gavin Newsom and Rob Bonta.

I see your out of Texas, have you taken any firearms courses out there?

Are you running subsonic 6.5 creedmoor?

Ouch...

No.

I really want to do Todd Hodnett's though.

All the civilian classes I've taken are "too easy" and are like a refresher course. The cool advanced ones require current .mil and LEO status. Best ones I've done were fighting around vehicles with cops and a NVG class. There was one with a old school GM from USPSA that was really fun.

Honestly I think you learn more at shooting competitions. There's an awesome range in NC that puts on some good 360 NVG competitions. Have a great rifle rated shoot house. Most of the guys that attend that won't tell you who they are. Most there have lots of issued stuff they get to take home somehow. Like the guy shooting a fun match with a PSQ-36

I'm not pretending to be a ninja here, but most shooting classes are so dumbed down .... there's been a few that I had to change positions on the firing line out of fear of being shot.

Shooting suppressed is cool, and helps communitiocation while shooting with others. So I kept suppressing all my guns.

A suppressor will overgass every full auto or semi auto gun you put it on. I call bullshit, or maybe you were blinded by the coolness of your suppressor. Why does a barely functioning semi auto work better with a can? I'm pretty sure there are a few fluid dynamics equations that will back up my arguement.

My flash suppressing muzzlebreak goes from effective to worthless with a suppressor. The bolts velocity has increased, the gas sent through the system has increased leaking out every place it can find. Yes the gas pressure is pushing forward on the can, but now you've changed the recoil impulse and caused more backpressure. Every action as an equal and opposit reaction. The force forward on the can is just increasing bolt speed. But F=mc^2 when that bolt slams backwards.

Even a vented can on a bolt action will change how the gun acts

Suppression fucking rocks! At least for me it does.

Do people have conflicting opinions and experiences with suppression? Yep. That doesn't mean either side is wrong, it either works for you or it does not. If you don't enjoy it, it does not makes those of us that do idiots.

Does it have tradeoffs? Of course, and you can often mitigate those tradeoffs with a little work, which can also add to the fun of the hobby for those of us that like to tinker with our firearms.

Can it makes shooting more enjoyable for everyone? Absolutely.

But conversely a poorly tuned firearm with a suppressor can be uncomfortable for the shooter, especially a newer, inexperienced shooter or one not as familiar with shooting suppressed. I can give an example of that, My friends girlfriend tried my 11.5" 5.56mm AR the very first time I tried his can to see if I really wanted to go down this road. Needless to say I had obviously not tuned it yet and it was sending a good amount of gas back in your face, it didn't bother me at all as I am an experienced shooter and have a higher tolerance for gas to the face, but for her it was not pleasant at all and after a few rounds she handed it back.

Now for another example with the exact same rifle after I added a BRT gas tube, an H3 buffer and a Sprinco red spring. My wife who utterly hated shooting this rifle before the can, now actually enjoys shooting it and does well with it due to the greatly reduced noise and blast. And the rifle has thousands of rounds through it without a broken part or malfunction, even when it is unbelievably filthy dirty and fouled. It also functions perfectly fine without the suppressor on it, though I rarely shoot it that way. I also don't mind shooting it without hearing protection when I'm out in the desert by myself, though I try not to make a habit of it because I am one of those guys with hearing loss and terrible tinnitus in my right ear, but it really is tolerable for me. I wouldn't even dream of shooting this rifle with out the can and no hearing protection.

I will and do shoot my 20" 5.56 AR and my 24" Remington 700 in .308 without any hearing protection when I am alone and it does not bother me a bit, very pleasant and fun. I use a Silencerco Omega 300 on the last 3 rifles mentioned. And I myself have not seen my groups become worse with the can on the Remington, as a matter of fact the best groups I have ever shot with that rifle have been with the can on it. Yes, I do have to account for a small adjustment for group shift when the can is on the rifle.

My Rugged Obsidian 9 on my full size AP-5 with subs is some of the most fun I have ever had with a firearm, but I will admit this much, it really does require hearing protection with supers. No complaints of gas to the face, thousands and thousands of rounds of my subsonic cast lead loads without a malfunction or broken parts. As for accuracy with this one, as long as I have the scallops in the baffles pointing up in the can, it does not change my impact point at all or my accuracy. I have tested this quite a bit.

And then you have .22 pistol and bolt and semi auto rifles! Good hell, I am glad I have a good stash of .22 ammo because this is probably the ones that get shot the most and I would rate as the most fun to shoot with suppression. These ones have also been tested for accuracy and group shift extensively without issues or need for adjustment.

Now, I have not played with my G-35 with the Obsidian a whole lot yet, but I do agree that centerfire handgun with a can is quite impractical. It is fun, but makes the pistol very long, adds a good bit of weight to it and affects shot times and follow ups. And I do get debris in my face with my cast lead loads. I also own far more firearms that are not suppressor ready than I do that I can suppress, but I have only started the suppressor game around 5 years ago.

So take this very long post for what it's worth, but that has been my experience with suppression and I personally find that they add a lot of practicality and utility to shooting, a hell of a lot of fun and like a large amount of the stuff we buy for our shooting sports hobby, they are just plain cool! I don't regret mine one bit and glad that I do have them.

With most modern firearms everything you listed can be easily corrected or greatly minimized by tuning your setup for how you’re shooting.

You can get the info you need, parts to correct it, and services pretty much instantly at your fingertips.

@JBecker_72 what are you using for a low back pressure can?

YHM Turbo 3. Lower back pressure than most would be the better way to describe it. It's not a flow through with holes out the front like a Hux or RC3.

Mine lives on and has been super pleasant on my 16” 5.56. Other than a H1 buffer, absolutely no other tuning was required.

It's a really nice suppressor. I ran it for a while without the BRT tube and just an H3 buffer. It ran fine but I figured I could get it to run even better if I just gave up wanting to shoot that rifle without it.

Definitely worth it.

Completely useless besides looking cool.