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Posted: 12/16/2007 8:34:06 PM EDT
I look all around me, at college, and on TV, and see "metrosexuals" and liberal "men" who think that they have to dress like a fashion model to get female attention. All while the mass media as a whole shoves this "culture" down the throat of the American male.

But then a movie like "300", or "I am legend" comes out, and they are hits! I remember people in the theatre at 300 cheering, literally cheering! Why? Because it was finally ok again to be a good, noble, virtuous man who was willing to stand up to protect his family in the face of a dire threat.

Its a natural male instinct to strive toward a great or noble cause, or to put himself in danger for the protection of those that he loves, but what great cause is commonly accepted amongst our culture? None. He is expected to be a slave to the PC police and welfare mothers. He is no longer the protector of society, he is the cause of its problems. A strong father is the anchor of a stable family, and thus strong men are the anchor in a stable society. I fear how we may end up if this trend is not reversed.


What will it take for men to finally regain their masculinity in this country?

Link Posted: 12/16/2007 8:44:34 PM EDT
[#1]
I give you The Pussification Of The Western Male by Mr. Kim Du Toit.

We have become a nation of women.

It wasn’t always this way, of course. There was a time when men put their signatures to a document, knowing full well that this single act would result in their execution if captured, and in the forfeiture of their property to the State. Their wives and children would be turned out by the soldiers, and their farms and businesses most probably given to someone who didn’t sign the document.

There was a time when men went to their certain death, with expressions like “You all can go to hell. I’m going to Texas.” (Davy Crockett, to the House of Representatives, before going to the Alamo.)

There was a time when men went to war, sometimes against their own families, so that other men could be free. And there was a time when men went to war because we recognized evil when we saw it, and knew that it had to be stamped out.

There was even a time when a President of the United States threatened to punch a man in the face and kick him in the balls, because the man had the temerity to say bad things about the President’s daughter’s singing.

We’re not like that anymore.

Now, little boys in grade school are suspended for playing cowboys and Indians, cops and crooks, and all the other familiar variations of “good guy vs. bad guy” that helped them learn, at an early age, what it was like to have decent men hunt you down, because you were a lawbreaker.

Now, men are taught that violence is bad—that when a thief breaks into your house, or threatens you in the street, that the proper way to deal with this is to “give him what he wants”, instead of taking a horsewhip to the rascal or shooting him dead where he stands.

Now, men’s fashion includes not a man dressed in a three-piece suit, but a tight sweater worn by a man with breasts.

Now, warning labels are indelibly etched into gun barrels, as though men have somehow forgotten that guns are dangerous things.

Now, men are given Ritalin as little boys, so that their natural aggressiveness, curiosity and restlessness can be controlled, instead of nurtured and directed.

And finally, our President, who happens to have been a qualified fighter pilot, lands on an aircraft carrier wearing a flight suit, and is immediately dismissed with words like “swaggering”, “macho” and the favorite epithet of Euro girly-men, “cowboy”. Of course he was bound to get that reaction—and most especially from the Press in Europe, because the process of male pussification Over There is almost complete.

How did we get to this?

In the first instance, what we have to understand is that America is first and foremost, a culture dominated by one figure: Mother. It wasn’t always so: there was a time when it was Father who ruled the home, worked at his job, and voted.

But in the twentieth century, women became more and more involved in the body politic, and in industry, and in the media—and mostly, this has not been a good thing. When women got the vote, it was inevitable that government was going to become more powerful, more intrusive, and more “protective” (ie. more coddling), because women are hard-wired to treasure security more than uncertainty and danger. It was therefore inevitable that their feminine influence on politics was going to emphasize (lowercase “s") social security.

I am aware of the fury that this statement is going to arouse, and I don’t care a fig.

What I care about is the fact that since the beginning of the twentieth century, there has been a concerted campaign to denigrate men, to reduce them to figures of fun, and to render them impotent, figuratively speaking.

I’m going to illustrate this by talking about TV, because TV is a reliable barometer of our culture.

In the 1950s, the TV Dad was seen as the lovable goofball—perhaps the beginning of the trend—BUT he was still the one who brought home the bacon, and was the main source of discipline (think of the line: “Wait until your father gets home!").

From that, we went to this: the Cheerios TV ad.

Now, for those who haven’t seen this piece of shit, I’m going to go over it, from memory, because it epitomizes everything I hate about the campaign to pussify men. The scene opens at the morning breakfast table, where the two kids are sitting with Dad at the table, while Mom prepares stuff on the kitchen counter. The dialogue goes something like this:



Little girl (note, not little boy): Daddy, why do we eat Cheerios?
Dad: Because they contain fiber, and all sorts of stuff that’s good for the heart. I eat it now, because of that.
LG: Did you always eat stuff that was bad for your heart, Daddy?
Dad (humorously): I did, until I met your mother.
Mother (not humorously): Daddy did a lot of stupid things before he met your mother.

Now, every time I see that TV ad, I have to be restrained from shooting the TV with a .45 Colt. If you want a microcosm of how men have become less than men, this is the perfect example.

What Dad should have replied to Mommy’s little dig: Yes, Sally, that’s true: I did do a lot of stupid things before I met your mother. I even slept with your Aunt Ruth a few times, before I met your mother.

That’s what I would have said, anyway, if my wife had ever attempted to castrate me in front of the kids like that.

But that’s not what men do, of course. What this guy is going to do is smile ruefully, finish his cereal, and then go and fuck his secretary, who doesn’t try to cut his balls off on a daily basis. Then, when the affair is discovered, people are going to rally around the castrating bitch called his wife, and call him all sorts of names. He’ll lose custody of his kids, and they will be brought up by our ultimate modern-day figure of sympathy: The Single Mom.

You know what? Some women deserve to be single moms.

When I first started this website, I think my primary aim was to blow off steam at the stupidity of our society.

Because I have fairly set views on what constitutes right and wrong, I have no difficulty in calling Bill Clinton, for example, a fucking liar and hypocrite.

But most of all, I do this website because I love being a man. Amongst other things, I talk about guns, self-defense, politics, beautiful women, sports, warfare, hunting, and power tools—all the things that being a man entails. All this stuff gives me pleasure.

And it doesn’t take much to see when all the things I love are being threatened: for instance, when Tim Allen’s excellent comedy routine on being a man is reduced to a fucking sitcom called Home Improvement. The show should have been called Man Improvement, because that’s what every single plotline entailed: turning a man into a “better” person, instead of just leaving him alone to work on restoring the vintage sports car in his garage. I stopped watching the show after about four episodes.

("The Man Show” was better, at least for the first season—men leering at chicks, men fucking around with ridiculous games like “pin the bra on the boobies”, men having beer-drinking competitions, and women on trampolines. Excellent stuff, only not strong enough. I don’t watch it anymore, either, because it’s plain that the idea has been subverted by girly-men, and turned into a parody of itself.)

Finally, we come to the TV show which to my mind epitomizes everything bad about what we have become: Queer Eye For The Straight Guy. Playing on the homo Bravo Channel, this piece of excrement has taken over the popular culture by storm (and so far, the only counter has been the wonderful South Park episode which took it apart for the bullshit it is).

I’m sorry, but the premise of the show nauseates me. A bunch of homosexuals trying to “improve” ordinary men into something “better” (ie. more acceptable to women): changing the guy’s clothes, his home decor, his music—for fuck’s sake, what kind of girly-man would allow these simpering butt-bandits to change his life around?

Yes, the men are, by and large, slobs. Big fucking deal. Last time I looked, that’s normal. Men are slobs, and that only changes when women try to civilize them by marriage. That’s the natural order of things.

You know the definition of homosexual men we used in Chicago? “Men with small dogs who own very tidy apartments.”

Real men, on the other hand, have big fucking mean-ass dogs: Rhodesian ridgebacks, bull terriers and Rottweilers, or else working dogs like pointers or retrievers which go hunting with them and slobber all over the furniture.

Women own lapdogs.

Which is why women are trying to get dog-fighting and cock-fighting banned—they’d ban boxing too, if they could—because it’s “mean and cruel”. No shit, Shirley. Hell, I don’t like the idea of fighting dogs, either, but I don’t have a problem with men who do. Dogs and cocks fight. So do men. No wonder we have an affinity for it.

My website has become fairly popular with men, and in the beginning, this really surprised me, because I didn’t think I was doing anything special.

That’s not what I think now. I must have had well over five thousand men write to me to say stuff like “Yes! I agree! I was so angry when I read about [insert atrocity of choice], but I thought I was the only one.”

No, you’re not alone, my friends, and nor am I.

Out there, there is a huge number of men who are sick of it. We’re sick of being made figures of fun and ridicule; we’re sick of having girly-men like journalists, advertising agency execs and movie stars decide on “what is a man”; we’re sick of women treating us like children, and we’re really fucking sick of girly-men politicians who pander to women by passing an ever-increasing raft of Nanny laws and regulations (the legal equivalent of public-school Ritalin), which prevent us from hunting, racing our cars and motorcycles, smoking, flirting with women at the office, getting into fistfights over women, shooting criminals and doing all the fine things which being a man entails.

When Annika Sorenstam was allowed to play in that tournament on the men’s PGA tour, all the men should have refused to play—Vijay Singh was the only one with balls to stand up for a principle, and he was absolutely excoriated for being a “chauvinist”. Bullshit. He wasn’t a chauvinist, he was being a man. All the rest of the players—Woods, Mickelson, the lot—are girls by comparison. And, needless to say, Vijay isn’t an American, nor a European, which is probably why he still has a pair hanging between his legs, and they’re not hanging on the wall as his wife’s trophy.

Fuck this, I’m sick of it.

I don’t see why I should put up with this bullshit any longer—hell, I don’t see why any man should put up with this bullshit any longer.

I don’t see why men should have become feminized, except that we allowed it to happen—and you know why we let it happen? Because it’s goddamned easier to do so. Unfortunately, we’ve allowed it to go too far, and our maleness has become too pussified for words.

At this point, I could have gone two ways: the first would be to say, “...and I don’t know if we’ll get it back. The process has become too entrenched, the cultural zeitgeist of men as girls has become part of the social fabric, and there’s not much we can do about it.”

But I’m not going to do that. To quote John Belushi (who was, incidentally, a real man and not a fucking woman): “Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?”

Well, I’m not going to quit. Fuck that. One of the characteristics of the non-pussified man (and this should strike fear into the hearts of women and girly-men everywhere) is that he never quits just because the odds seem overwhelming. Omaha Beach, guys.

I want a real man as President—not Al Gore, who had to hire a consultant to show him how to be an Alpha male, and french-kiss his wife on live TV to “prove” to the world that he was a man, when we all knew that real men don’t have to do that shit.

And I want the Real Man President to surround himself with other Real Men, like Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft, and yes, Rice (who is more of a Real Man than those asswipes Colin Powell and Norman Mineta).

I want our government to be more like Dad—kind, helpful, but not afraid to punish us when we fuck up, instead of helping us excuse our actions.

I want our government of real men to start rolling back the Nanny State, in all its horrible manifestations of over-protectiveness, intrusiveness and “Mommy Knows Best What’s Good For You” regulations.

I want our culture to become more male—and not the satirical kind of male, like The Man Show, or the cartoonish figures of Stallone, Van Damme or Schwartzenegger. (Note to the Hollywood execs: We absolutely fucking loathe chick movies about feelings and relationships and all that feminine jive. We want more John Waynes, Robert Mitchums, Bruce Willises, and Clint Eastwoods. Never mind that it’s simplistic— we like simple, we are simple, we are men—our lives are uncomplicated, and we like it that way. We Were Soldiers was a great movie, and you know why? Because you could have cut out all the female parts, and it still would have been a great movie, because it was about Real Men. Try cutting out all the female parts in a Woody Allen movie—you’d end up with the opening and closing credits.)

I want our literature to become more male, less female. Men shouldn’t buy “self-help” books unless the subject matter is car maintenance, golf swing improvement or how to disassemble a fucking Browning BAR. We don’t improve ourselves, we improve our stuff.

And finally, I want men everywhere to going back to being Real Men. To open doors for women, to drive fast cars, to smoke cigars after a meal, to get drunk occasionally and, in the words of Col. Jeff Cooper, one of the last of the Real Men: “to ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth.”

In every sense of the word. We know what the word “is” means.

Because that’s all that being a Real Man involves. You don’t have to become a fucking cartoon male, either: I’m not going back to stoning women for adultery like those Muslim assholes do, nor am I suggesting we support that perversion of being a Real Man, gangsta rap artists (those fucking pussies—they wouldn’t last thirty seconds against a couple of genuine tough guys that I know).

Speaking of rap music, do you want to know why more White boys buy that crap than Black boys do? You know why rape is such a problem on college campuses? Why binge drinking is a problem among college freshmen?

It’s a reaction: a reaction against being pussified. And I understand it, completely. Young males are aggressive, they do fight amongst themselves, they are destructive, and all this does happen for a purpose.

Because only the strong men propagate.

And women know it. You want to know why I know this to be true? Because powerful men still attract women. Women, even liberal women, swooned over George Bush in a naval aviator’s uniform. Donald Trump still gets access to some of the most beautiful pussy available, despite looking like a medieval gargoyle. Donald Rumsfeld, if he wanted to, could fuck 90% of all women over 50 if he wanted to, and a goodly portion of younger ones too.

And he won’t. Because Rummy’s been married to the same woman for fifty years, and he wouldn’t toss that away for a quickie. He’s a Real Man. No wonder the Euros hate and fear him.

We’d better get more like him, we’d better become more like him, because if we don’t, men will become a footnote to history.


Link Posted: 12/16/2007 8:46:30 PM EDT
[#2]
I think it has more to do with the life people lead......Hard times make for hard men.


My Grandfather would have called any man who sat in front of a computer screen all day...lazy.
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 8:46:45 PM EDT
[#3]
I own a big gas guzzling four wheel drive. I work on it myself. It's rusty but reliable and paid for. I did a little body work last week with a dead blow hammer.

I like beer and straight whiskey as well as good wine with food.

I ride a motorcycle.

I hunt,hike and fish.

I make my kids be respectful and if they can't get good grades in school they work extra until they do.I also foster responsibility in them.

I let my hair grow long and don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

I own a lot of rifles and pistols and reload my own ammo.

I broke some ribs last year and never missed a day's work because of it.

I pretty much do what I want to do when I want to do it and my wife understands because I've always been that way.

I respect my mother and father.

I don't prejudge other people.

I think there is nothing wrong with most of American male society if you look in the right places. My only regret is that I didn't serve in the military when I was younger. That may be one of the reasons I was drawn to a profession that serves the community.
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 8:47:09 PM EDT
[#4]
"Is American masculinity dying?"

Not in my house.
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 8:47:13 PM EDT
[#5]
The short answer is "Yes".
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 8:50:02 PM EDT
[#6]
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 8:52:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Well you can definately give credit to the Fema Nazi's for demonizing men as "to aggressive" in the home and dominating. This was a big push to get the woman and her kids free of the aggressive man and thus our taxes support the single mother and her kids. If the kids had been left with the father you would not have so many of the problems we have today. Our prisons are proof that women cannot raise children on their own.
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 8:55:31 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I think it has more to do with the life people lead......Hard times make for hard men.




Exactly.  An advanced industrialized society like ours has found that there is money in catering to everyone's whims, and it's made people soft - because most people secretly LIKE it when things are easier.

LOTS of men who like to beat their chests about how tough and manly they are, still want the ease of a drive-through at McDonalds (for their big manly truck), and a drive-up ATM, and want to see their manly NFL game on a high-def 50" plasma TV in their expensive recliner with built-in cupholder, and want 50 different brands of micro-brewed beer to choose from at the grocery store, and whine and bitch on the internet over trivial shit like having to stand in line for 10 minutes at WalMart.

Most real manly men exist in places where it is HARD to survive, not where you can have Kobe steaks delivered to your doorstep by FedEx.
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 8:58:13 PM EDT
[#9]
I don't think being meticulously groomed and well presentable adds to pussification. A well dressed man with a fresh hair cut, trimmed nails, white teeth, clean shaven face, low body fat percentage and in good physicial shape with class and charm used to be considered the man's man as far as I can tell
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:03:16 PM EDT
[#10]
I had a liberal college professor that brought up the feminization of our culture as a good thing. Rather typical outlook for her kind, but our society is becoming more and more feminized.

As far as dress and grooming standards, most hippies dress like slobs and they stink. Bathing and dressing well does not make a "metrosexual".

Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:04:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Yes it is.

Look at every fucking commercial on TV makes men out to be idiot drones.

Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:04:05 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I think it has more to do with the life people lead......Hard times make for hard men.


My Grandfather would have called any man who sat in front of a computer screen all day...lazy.


End of this discussion

Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:04:39 PM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:07:45 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I give you The Pussification Of The Western Male by Mr. Kim Du Toit.

We have become a nation of women.




Awsome read
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:10:45 PM EDT
[#15]
Wasn't there a post about a guy hiding under the bed covers, thinking his house was being robbed today?
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:11:52 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
My Grandfather would have called any man who sat in front of a computer screen all day...lazy.


 You just bitch slapped 99% of the men on this forum!  HAHA!
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:12:03 PM EDT
[#17]
From a collective cultural standpoint, it's not dying, it's dead.  Been dead for a decade or two.


Individually, there are some Men remaining.  20% at most.


When will it turn around?  What will it take?  I don't know.

A large scale war won't do it.  France, Britain, Germany, and Russia were pussified even quicker than us after losing 2 generations of young men fighting each other.  
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:12:04 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Yes it is.

Look at every fucking commercial on TV makes men out to be idiot drones.



They only do that for white men. The men of color are allowed to display masculinity.  Also, it is common for the advertisers to show a black man wearing a sharp business suit while the white guy next to him is wearing coveralls or bluejeans.

As more and more graduates of "PC University" enters the corporate world, more and more of the PCism has changed the corporate culture. A case in point is the diversity training, there have been threads here on GD on that very topic.

Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:19:27 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I don't think being meticulously groomed and well presentable adds to pussification. A well dressed man with a fresh hair cut, trimmed nails, white teeth, clean shaven face, low body fat percentage and in good physicial shape with class and charm used to be considered the man's man as far as I can tell


According to some, you must be an uneducated, unkempt slob in order to be a real man.


Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:22:37 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My Grandfather would have called any man who sat in front of a computer screen all day...lazy.


 You just bitch slapped 99% of the men on this forum!  HAHA!


And me too.....true I get to push 275 pd main wheels around for fun. But by and large most of my work is inventory control. My grandfather worked as a brick hod till he was old enuff to join the Army...two wars later ran his own business till he died of liver cancer. The depression, two world wars, numerours union fights with a fire bombing of one of his business, gangland wars ...and it took cancer to kill him.
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:24:45 PM EDT
[#21]
Yup.  And the militia act should be active like it was intended...  Every able bodied male ought to at least be able to shoot a firearm, even if he can't afford one.
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:30:22 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think it has more to do with the life people lead......Hard times make for hard men.




Exactly.  An advanced industrialized society like ours has found that there is money in catering to everyone's whims, and it's made people soft - because most people secretly LIKE it when things are easier.

LOTS of men who like to beat their chests about how tough and manly they are, still want the ease of a drive-through at McDonalds (for their big manly truck), and a drive-up ATM, and want to see their manly NFL game on a high-def 50" plasma TV in their expensive recliner with built-in cupholder, and want 50 different brands of micro-brewed beer to choose from at the grocery store, and whine and bitch on the internet over trivial shit like having to stand in line for 10 minutes at WalMart.

Most real manly men exist in places where it is HARD to survive, not where you can have Kobe steaks delivered to your doorstep by FedEx.


+1

You want manly men? Go to Iraq

As for grooming, I don't think that has anything to do with being manly.

You can be sophisticated and 'manly' - keeping your nails trimmed and your hair cut is not a sign of being feminine - it just means you aren't a PIG

Just because you're 'high cultured' doesn't mean you aren't manly.

Hell, Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin wore wigs and funny french clothes, yet they're probably the most badass Americans EVAR - Benjamin Frankling harnessed lightning! and Jefferson whooped up on them Barbary pirates.


OMG! A silk scarf He's so metrosexual


OMG! A silk scarf AND he has a fur coat. He's definately a fag
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:37:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Yep...well-dressed and manly can go hand in hand. Formentiond grandfather never left the house without

A. Hat [removed only indoors]

B. Tie  
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 9:54:53 PM EDT
[#24]
My eyebrows aint plucked, there's a gun in my truck.

I'm still a guy
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 10:01:44 PM EDT
[#25]
imho the biggest pussification has been that if you say that people should work and take care of themselves you are "insensitive" well call it whatever the fuck you want but they should.

no individual responsibility
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 10:04:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Being well dressed has nothing to do with the subject.

It is good for a man to be well dressed, but it is certainly detrimental if he cares about his appearence in excess.

It has alot more to being a strong example of virtue, morality, and being willing to stand and protect his family, and his comunnity, in the face of great cost to oneself.  

Recently we had a discussion about whether your "man card" should be revoked if you refuse to attend a strip club. So I am less of a man because I believe that it is dishonerable to lust after someone elses wife or daughter?

Not only are we afraid of being men in todays society, those that propose that they are indeed "masculine" rarely have much of an idea as to its true definition.

You may indeed be a tough guy who drives a big truck and likes to kill things and shoot guns, but have no doubt when you cheat on your wife or neglect your children, you are as much of a pussy as some metrosexual emo freak crying in the bathroom.
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 10:09:15 PM EDT
[#27]
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 10:12:45 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
I am not PC

I have scars,

I work in a factory,

I don't kiss ass,

I don't really care if I hurt someones feelings, I call it like I see it,

I drive a 1997 Chevrolet Pickup and it's paid for,

I don't run to a doctor everytime I get a little cut or of I get a ache or pain,

I eat red meat,

I carry a pistol,

I carry a knife too

Getting up everyday and facing the bullshit that life deals me everyday makes me a little colder and a little harder


Does this sound like I am pussified?




No...but you could be over-compensating for something
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 10:20:05 PM EDT
[#29]
Men do not wear womens jeans.

Men do not wear make up or color their hair.

Men do not use curling irons or flat irons or their hair.

if you do any of these things you are not "well dressed" or "well groomed" you are a metrosexual bitch.




BTW: Real men wear a uniform to work.
Link Posted: 12/16/2007 10:38:48 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I am not PC

I have scars,

I work in a factory,

I don't kiss ass,

I don't really care if I hurt someones feelings, I call it like I see it,

I drive a 1997 Chevrolet Pickup and it's paid for,

I don't run to a doctor everytime I get a little cut or of I get a ache or pain,

I eat red meat,

I carry a pistol,

I carry a knife too

Getting up everyday and facing the bullshit that life deals me everyday makes me a little colder and a little harder


Does this sound like I am pussified?




Actually except for the factory worker and driving a Chevy..you sound like me.


Link Posted: 12/16/2007 10:39:54 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Men do not wear womens jeans.

Men do not wear make up or color their hair.

Men do not use curling irons or flat irons or their hair.

if you do any of these things you are not "well dressed" or "well groomed" you are a metrosexual Drag Queen .




BTW: Real men wear a uniform to work.


Fixed...
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 2:07:44 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
Yup.  And the militia act should be active like it was intended...  Every able bodied male ought to at least be able to shoot a firearm, even if he can't afford one.


For $100 out the door you can get a 12 gauge or a bolt action rifle.  Either capable of taking a deer.  No excuse for not affording at least one of those.  
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 2:19:43 AM EDT
[#33]
The Fact of the matter is:

Men have allowed Women to Snip their balls off and were them at their Leisure...
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 2:34:00 AM EDT
[#34]
Just watch TV. Nearly every white male is teh ghey.
Jim
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 2:37:25 AM EDT
[#35]
Well, VTHOKIESHOOTER has a glaring example of what some "men" are like these days.    

Poor little scared "man"  
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 2:38:28 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Just watch TV. Nearly every white male is teh ghey.
Jim


No just stop watch LOGO channel...and that feeling will all go away.
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 2:56:25 AM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 2:58:37 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I give you The Pussification Of The Western Male by Mr. Kim Du Toit.

We have become a nation of women.




Awsome read


+1
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 3:00:25 AM EDT
[#39]
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 3:01:06 AM EDT
[#40]
I think people get mixed up with what a " real man " is.

A real man honors his family with respect, love and support,

He protects what is his.

He does what has to be done and doesn't bitch about it.

Times change and what has to be done went from killing supper to going and picking up an ingredient for your wife while she makes dinner. It's all the same as long as you take care of business. Roughing it doesn't make you a man. Roughing because you have to and making the best of the situation makes you a man imo.
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 3:08:59 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I think people get mixed up with what a " real man " is.

A real man honors his family with respect, love and support,

He protects what is his.

He does what has to be done and doesn't bitch about it.

Times change and what has to be done went from killing supper to going and picking up an ingredient for your wife while she makes dinner. It's all the same as long as you take care of business. Roughing it doesn't make you a man. Roughing because you have to and making the best of the situation makes you a man imo.


That pretty much covers it.
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 3:10:51 AM EDT
[#42]
yes, It died a long time ago.

Here is what most men have become:
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 3:56:45 AM EDT
[#43]
The Retrosexual Code
A Retrosexual man, no matter what the women insists, PAYS FOR THE DATE.

A Retrosexual man opens doors for a lady. Even for the ones that fit that term only because they're a female.

A Retrosexual DEALS with IT, be it a flat tire, break-in into your home, or a natural disaster, you DEAL WITH IT.

A Retrosexual not only eats red meat, he often kills it himself.

A Retrosexual doesn't worry about living to be 90. It's not how long you live, but how well. If you're 90 years old and still smoking cigars and drinking, I salute you. If you are still having sex, you are a God.

A Retrosexual does not use more hair or skin products than a woman. Women have several supermarket aisles of stuff. Retrosexuals need an endcap (possibly 2 endcaps if you include shaving goods.)

A Retrosexual does not dress in clothes from Hot Topic when he's 30 years old.

A Retrosexual should know how to properly kill stuff (or people) if need be. This falls under the "Dealing with IT" portion of The Code.

A Retrosexual watches no TV show with "Queer" in the title.

A Retrosexual does not let neighbors screw up rooms in his house on national TV.

A Retrosexual should not give up excessive amounts of manliness for women. Some is inevitable, but major reinvention of yourself will only lead to you becoming a froo-froo little puss, and in the long run, she ain't worth it.

A Retrosexual is allowed to seek professional help for major mental stress such as drug/alcohol addiction, death of your entire family in a freak treechipper accident, favorite sports team being moved to a different city, favorite bird dog expiring, etc. You are NOT allowed to see a shrink because Daddy didn't pay you enough attention. Daddy was busy DEALING WITH IT. When you screwed up, he DEALT with you.

A Retrosexual will have at least one outfit in his wardrobe designed to conceal himself from prey.

A Retrosexual knows how to tie a Windsor knot when wearing a tie -- and ONLY a Windsor knot.

A Retrosexual should have at least one good wound he can brag about getting.

A Retrosexual knows how to use a basic set of tools. If you can't hammer a nail, or drill a straight hole, practice in secret until you can -- or be rightfully ridiculed for the wuss you be.

A Retrosexual knows that owning a gun is not a sign that your are riddled with fear, guns are TOOLS and are often essential to DEAL WITH IT. Plus it's just plain fun to fire one off in the direction of those people or things that just need a little "wakin' up".

Crying. There are very few reason that a Retrosexual may cry, and none of them have to do with TV commercials, movies, or soap operas. Sports teams are sometimes a reason to cry, but the preferred method of release is swearing or throwing the remote control. Some reasons a Retrosexual can cry include (but are not limited to) death of a loved one, death of a pet (fish do NOT count as pets in this case), loss of a major body part, or loss of major body part on your Ford truck.

When a Retrosexual is on a crowded bus and or a commuter train, and a pregnant woman, heck, any woman gets on, that retrosexual stands up and offers his seat to that woman, then looks around at the other so-called men still in their seats with a disgusted "you punks" look on his face.

A Retrosexual knows how to say the Pledge properly, and with the correct emphasis and pronunciation. He also knows the words to the Star Spangled Banner

A Retrosexual will have hobbies and habits his wife and mother do not understand, but that are essential to his manliness, in that they offset the acceptable manliness decline he suffers when married/engaged or in a serious healthy relationship - i.e., hunting, boxing, shot putting, shooting, cigars, car maintenance.

A Retrosexual knows how to sharpen his own knives and kitchen utensils.

A Retrosexual man can drive in snow (hell, a blizzard) without sliding all over or driving under 20mph, without anxiety, and without high-centering his ride in a snow bank.

A Retrosexual man can chop down a tree and make it land where he wants. Wherever it lands is where he damn well wanted it to land. Except on his truck--that would happen because of a "force of nature", and then the retrosexual man's options are to Cry, or to DEAL with IT, or do both.

A Retrosexual will give up his seat on a bus to not only any women but any elderly person or person in military dress (except 2nd Lt's).

(NOTE: The person in military dress may turn down the offer but the Retrosexual man will ALWAYS make the offer to them and thank them for serving their country.)

A Retrosexual man doesn't need a contract -- a handshake is good enough. He will always stand by his word even if circumstances change or the other person deceived him.

A Retrosexual man doesn't immediately look to sue someone when he does something stupid and hurts himself. We understand that sometimes in the process of doing things we get hurt and we just DEAL WITH IT!

Link Posted: 12/17/2007 4:18:54 AM EDT
[#44]
Stop hanging out in the gay clubs. Male masculinity is all over the place:

Football games
sport bars
car shows
cabelas/bass pro shops
gun stores
army
marines
navy
coast guard
arfcom
hunting lodges
cigar bars
rivers and lakes
alaska

just look around. Stop looking on campus for it (well maybe a frat house). Look in the real world. Its everywhere.


Link Posted: 12/17/2007 4:37:19 AM EDT
[#45]
It's not dead.  Just make sure you raise your sons to keep it alive.
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 5:33:22 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
The Retrosexual Code

<Snip>

just DEAL WITH IT!



That is fantastic and should be etched in stone for all to see.  
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 5:44:16 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

BTW: Real men wear a uniform to work.






Link Posted: 12/17/2007 5:49:18 AM EDT
[#48]
Check out some of the responses in this thread and tell me that an old school gentleman would have said this stuff.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=651435
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 5:52:26 AM EDT
[#49]
Link Posted: 12/17/2007 5:54:08 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
Stop hanging out in the gay clubs. Male masculinity is all over the place:

Football games replacement for masculinity, to pacify of the masses. Keep the men on the couch instead of looting an pillaging like Vikings.
sport bars  what???
car shows  uhhh, no.
cabelas/bass pro shops  One of the last sources of masculinity, hunting
gun stores One of the last sources of masculinity, war/hunting
army One of the last sources of masculinity, war
marines One of the last sources of masculinity, war
navy One of the last sources of masculinity, war
coast guard One of the last sources of masculinity, war
arfcom One of the last sources of masculinity, war/hunting
hunting lodges One of the last sources of masculinity, war
cigar bars neutral base
rivers and lakes ohhh kay....
alaska Agreed, even the chicks are masculine

just look around. Stop looking on campus for it (well maybe a frat house). Look in the real world. Its everywhere.


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