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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:16:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: Where the fuck in Queens was he living that he was being charged $54,000/mo for rent? Jesus Christ, man. Reading is not your strong point.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:16:41 AM EDT
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I didn't say Illegal,most people came here from somewhere else at one point,that's what this country is made of, what I was saying is, If I start a business,I will not get the same tax breaks as a New immigrant to this country starting a new business, You might want to look into this if you want to start a business, btw Welcome to the U.S.A
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:17:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: worthless deadbeat scum Did you even read the article? |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:19:31 AM EDT
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Frankly, this seems like a winner. You bid for a highly prized spot with high traffic. You sell the shit out of your product while refusing to pay the city their cut. Make sure all your money is spread out in offshore accounts in secretive countries. By the time they figure it out, you're a millionaire and you take your money, move back home, wherever that is, or fly to the Caribbean and you live like the fucking Pharoh for all your born days. You're a millonaire and living absurdly fat, while the city is holding their dick asking "wha happun?" like Ricky Ricardo. Brilliant. Why aren't more of us doing this? Because the rest of us don't live in cities where the gubbmint rents patches of sidewalk for 50k a month. For all the bitchin we southerners do about New York, I gotta admit yankees have a ready-made lotto ticket right there. Hell, that's better than disability. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:21:37 AM EDT
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I didn't say Illegal,most people came here from somewhere else at one point,that's what this country is made of, what I was saying is, If I start a business,I will not get the same tax breaks as a New immigrant to this country starting a new business, You might want to look into this if you want to start a business, btw Welcome to the U.S.A I hear this shit all the time, yet it has not been substantiated. Post some links please.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:22:17 AM EDT
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Stunning to think about though, isn't it? You may have gone yerself to college and gotten a masters––and yet a guy named Pasang is in Central Park working a hot dog cart, and is in a higher tax bracket than you (and me!) are....... So where are guys that scream about unskilled laborers making too much money just for assembling cars on line...... Employee vs. Entrepreneur running his own business. There is a huge difference. Amazing that some can't see that. He is not a "laborer" wanting the government to dictate to his employer how much his time should be worth. Every dime he made people freely give him at a rate they freely choose to pay for goods. How ANYONE can compare this issue to the minimum wage discussions shows just how clueless some are about the issue at hand. FWIW, anyone of those laborers who feel they aren't getting paid enough are free to move to NYC and buy a hot dog stand - or start their own business anywhwere, for that matter. Not really the best person to start trying to justify the difference as he FREELY entered into a contract with the city [even tho it was crappy] for the rights to the location and then reniged on his payments after enjoying the exclusive rights to the location. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:27:32 AM EDT
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I didn't say Illegal,most people came here from somewhere else at one point,that's what this country is made of, what I was saying is, If I start a business,I will not get the same tax breaks as a New immigrant to this country starting a new business, You might want to look into this if you want to start a business, btw Welcome to the U.S.A I hear this shit all the time, yet it has not been substantiated. Post some links please.
I said look it up,I'm not doin your work for you!
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:36:20 AM EDT
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I didn't say Illegal,most people came here from somewhere else at one point,that's what this country is made of, what I was saying is, If I start a business,I will not get the same tax breaks as a New immigrant to this country starting a new business, You might want to look into this if you want to start a business, btw Welcome to the U.S.A I hear this shit all the time, yet it has not been substantiated. Post some links please.
I said look it up,I'm not doin your work for you! Sooooo.... you pretty much admit that you're wrong? -James |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:38:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I didn't say Illegal,most people came here from somewhere else at one point,that's what this country is made of, what I was saying is, If I start a business,I will not get the same tax breaks as a New immigrant to this country starting a new business, You might want to look into this if you want to start a business, btw Welcome to the U.S.A I hear this shit all the time, yet it has not been substantiated. Post some links please. I said look it up,I'm not doin your work for you! You made the assertion you need to prove it.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:40:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:40:31 AM EDT
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I didn't say Illegal,most people came here from somewhere else at one point,that's what this country is made of, what I was saying is, If I start a business,I will not get the same tax breaks as a New immigrant to this country starting a new business, You might want to look into this if you want to start a business, btw Welcome to the U.S.A I hear this shit all the time, yet it has not been substantiated. Post some links please.
I said look it up,I'm not doin your work for you! Sooooo.... you pretty much admit that you're wrong? -James Not |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:41:01 AM EDT
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I didn't say Illegal,most people came here from somewhere else at one point,that's what this country is made of, what I was saying is, If I start a business,I will not get the same tax breaks as a New immigrant to this country starting a new business, You might want to look into this if you want to start a business, btw Welcome to the U.S.A I hear this shit all the time, yet it has not been substantiated. Post some links please.
I said look it up,I'm not doin your work for you! You made the assertion you need to prove it.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:41:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I didn't say Illegal,most people came here from somewhere else at one point,that's what this country is made of, what I was saying is, If I start a business,I will not get the same tax breaks as a New immigrant to this country starting a new business, You might want to look into this if you want to start a business, btw Welcome to the U.S.A I hear this shit all the time, yet it has not been substantiated. Post some links please. I said look it up,I'm not doin your work for you! You made the assertion you need to prove it. No I dont Link or Ban! You post things without evidence to support them. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:43:14 AM EDT
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He obviously had no intention to pay it, he was just riding it out until they evicted him.
Only an idiot would may that much for a cart spot. Nobody would make that much no matter what they were selling. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:43:46 AM EDT
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that guys entire life must reek of hot dogs
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:05:22 AM EDT
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Stunning to think about though, isn't it? You may have gone yerself to college and gotten a masters––and yet a guy named Pasang is in Central Park working a hot dog cart, and is in a higher tax bracket than you (and me!) are....... So where are guys that scream about unskilled laborers making too much money just for assembling cars on line...... Employee vs. Entrepreneur running his own business. There is a huge difference. Amazing that some can't see that. He is not a "laborer" wanting the government to dictate to his employer how much his time should be worth. Every dime he made people freely give him at a rate they freely choose to pay for goods. How ANYONE can compare this issue to the minimum wage discussions shows just how clueless some are about the issue at hand. FWIW, anyone of those laborers who feel they aren't getting paid enough are free to move to NYC and buy a hot dog stand - or start their own business anywhwere, for that matter. I thought you were a "liberal troll" as your member status lists... Guess that must mean classical liberal. 
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:07:19 AM EDT
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Frankly, this seems like a winner. You bid for a highly prized spot with high traffic. You sell the shit out of your product while refusing to pay the city their cut. Make sure all your money is spread out in offshore accounts in secretive countries. By the time they figure it out, you're a millionaire and you take your money, move back home, wherever that is, or fly to the Caribbean and you live like the fucking Pharoh for all your born days. You're a millonaire and living absurdly fat, while the city is holding their dick asking "wha happun?" like Ricky Ricardo. Brilliant. Why aren't more of us doing this? Because the rest of us don't live in cities where the gubbmint rents patches of sidewalk for 50k a month. For all the bitchin we southerners do about New York, I gotta admit yankees have a ready-made lotto ticket right there. Hell, that's better than disability. They'll wise up next time and accelerate their eviction process. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:08:40 AM EDT
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No I dont I guess you don't, but it just makes you an idiot and generally look like a fool. 
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:11:43 AM EDT
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68mopar has no idea what he's talking about.
The tax code makes no exclusions, exemptions or nationality deductions for earned income derived in USA. Capital gains for foreign nationals are exempt. Solders abroad are exempt somewhat from regular income. And some govt bonds are exempt for everyone. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:11:45 AM EDT
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That's real smart of the city. Shut down a revenue stream because some guy can't sell the same number of hotdogs during a serious recession as he did when things were booming along. They'll be someone else to take his place, and pay the expenses in just a second.......................... Business, make money or go out of business. Hard to make money when the government takes half of it. No one forced him to rent that spot. He decided to, based on the value of being in a heavily travelled area. Just like any other restaurant paying rent. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:15:38 AM EDT
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That's real smart of the city. Shut down a revenue stream because some guy can't sell the same number of hotdogs during a serious recession as he did when things were booming along. They'll be someone else to take his place, and pay the expenses in just a second.......................... Business, make money or go out of business. Hard to make money when the government takes half of it. No one forced him to rent that spot. He decided to, based on the value of being in a heavily travelled area. Just like any other restaurant paying rent. I'm of the opinion he never intended to pay rent in the first place. He just wanted to make as much money as he could in the time it took for them to realize they weren't getting paid. They found out and gave him the boot, but no matter, he's long gone with a shit load of cash and NYC is trying to get $300K from a ghost. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:16:23 AM EDT
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Google the Metropolitan. This is one of the premier locations in the world. And the city fucks it up with hot dog carts.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:20:38 AM EDT
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No I dont I guess you don't, but it just makes you an idiot and generally look like a fool. Like I give a shit what you all think! 
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:29:19 AM EDT
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68mopar has no idea what he's talking about. The tax code makes no exclusions, exemptions or nationality deductions for earned income derived in USA. Capital gains for foreign nationals are exempt. Solders abroad are exempt somewhat from regular income. And some govt bonds are exempt for everyone. ever heard of Minority owned business,SOOOO your wrong! 
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:41:17 AM EDT
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Wow $54,000 / month divided by 30 days = $1800 / day rent.
Whats a plain hotdog cost in NY ~ $6 maybe. You New Yorkers verify this. $1800 divided by 6 = 300 hotdogs a day ...every day....just to cover the rent. ETA: And he's gotta sell even more than that to cover his overhead of buying the propane, hotdogs , buns , condiments, AND pay NYC taxes to boot. So he's probably having to sell TWICE as much or sell'em at $15-20 dollars a pop just to break even. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:49:12 AM EDT
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68mopar has no idea what he's talking about. The tax code makes no exclusions, exemptions or nationality deductions for earned income derived in USA. Capital gains for foreign nationals are exempt. Solders abroad are exempt somewhat from regular income. And some govt bonds are exempt for everyone. ever heard of Minority owned business,SOOOO your wrong! Heard of it? I'm in it - I get no special dispensation under tax law. Admit you have no idea what you are talking about or post up this these tax free minority businesses, |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:49:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: I have started several businesses here, in the last 30+ years. I didn't say Illegal,most people came here from somewhere else at one point,that's what this country is made of, what I was saying is, If I start a business,I will not get the same tax breaks as a New immigrant to this country starting a new business, You might want to look into this if you want to start a business, btw Welcome to the U.S.A I keep looking for these 'tax breaks', have not yet found anything 'special' for foreigners. 'Minority Owned' will not apply to me before 2038 - that is the predicted date when "Caucasian = minority" and at the rate we are going downhill, teh "end-of-life councilling" will have solved all my problems before then. Thanks for the welcome, though. Bad news is, I'm starting to wonder the wisdom of my decision....... This wonderful country is changing................  |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 11:02:01 AM EDT
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Wow $54,000 / month divided by 30 days = $1800 / day rent. Whats a plain hotdog cost in NY ~ $6 maybe. You New Yorkers verify this. $1800 divided by 6 = 300 hotdogs a day ...every day....just to cover the rent. ETA: And he's gotta sell even more than that to cover his overhead of buying the propane, hotdogs , buns , condiments, AND pay NYC taxes to boot. So he's probably having to sell TWICE as much or sell'em at $15-20 dollars a pop just to break even. Last time I was there a hot dog was something like 3.00, maybe 3.50. It's been about 2 years. I also recall he had a line when I went in, and 3 hours later when I left. I have no doubt in my mind he could sell plenty of hot dogs to make rent. And of course he isn't limited to hotdogs- drinks and pretzels are pretty typical at a hotdog stand. The guy was taking debit cards. New York city isn't stupid. The powers that be know exactly what a vendor can expect to make for a given location. The Met. is a tourist destination, and so are NYC hot dog stands. A lot of tourists kill two birds with one stone when they visit. If this guy couldn't make his rent then it was either intentional or just a shitty result of decreased tourism to the city. Either way he chose to pay for that spot, so I don't really see the problem. If he didn't, someone else would have been happy to. Guess how much a NYC taxi badge goes for at the auctions. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 6:19:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 68mopar has no idea what he's talking about. The tax code makes no exclusions, exemptions or nationality deductions for earned income derived in USA. Capital gains for foreign nationals are exempt. Solders abroad are exempt somewhat from regular income. And some govt bonds are exempt for everyone. ever heard of Minority owned business,SOOOO your wrong! Heard of it? I'm in it - I get no special dispensation under tax law. Admit you have no idea what you are talking about or post up this these tax free minority businesses, Do not hold your breath waiting, he will not do it because he is full of shit. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 6:37:32 PM EDT
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I was there in April and the hotdog was $2. Maybe price gets raised during summer to $3. I noticed a couple vendors around the ferries to the Statue of Liberty were selling for $3, but pretty much everywhere else the street vendors sell for $2 each.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 6:40:49 PM EDT
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At $3.50 per dog that's over 500 hot dogs PER DAY, just to pay the rent! Assuming he's there for 10 hours a day for easy figuring, that's an AVERAGE of 50 dogs sold per hour, or a little less than one per minute for 10 solid hours. NO WAY. You're assuming 30 days, try 20 and see the math. Yep numbers don't add up which is why I'm taking position city was starving his business taking all profits and he caught FU virus at the end and profit took himself for a change. Fuck em' damn socialists. There could be 5000+ people a day walking past @ MOMA. Families buy hotdogs/combos 5 at a time- tour groups maybe 20 at at time. I'd pay for a primo spot- I'd love to have a place in our arport$$$$$- but they're 'sweetheart' type deals for the well connected. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 6:48:25 PM EDT
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68mopar has no idea what he's talking about. The tax code makes no exclusions, exemptions or nationality deductions for earned income derived in USA. Capital gains for foreign nationals are exempt. Solders abroad are exempt somewhat from regular income. And some govt bonds are exempt for everyone. We refund sales tax to Mexicans. Do we do it for any other countries??? |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 6:50:25 PM EDT
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Mr Sherpa and his shop. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 6:53:42 PM EDT
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The only street food I've had in Manhattan was a Polish sausage outside the Met, so I think I've seen this guy.
IIRC, he operates a typical hot dog kart operated by 1-3 people. 50k/month in rent for kart space doesn't seem sustainable, even there. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:16:58 PM EDT
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Here is the key missing part to this story:
Sherpa agreed late last year to pay almost $643,000 annually for the right to sell food and drinks from carts on either side of the Met's entrance. He fell $310,000 behind on rent and the city has seized $170,000 in Sherpa's assets. If the rent was so outrageous, why did he agree to pay it? He took a business risk and lost. Link |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:44:01 PM EDT
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After looking at many different places, I actively chose this fine country as a place to live, to be an honorable citizen, to be law-abiding, and pay taxes, when due. you nothing personal, I mean others, were just born here............... Jus' Sayin' Well fucking said at that . |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:49:40 PM EDT
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WELCOME TO AMERICA MR. SHEPA - MORE COMMUNIST THAN FROM WHENCE YOU CAME!!!!! Second thoughts? Sure looks like it.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:58:25 PM EDT
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Jesus that sounds more like protection money. "Pay our prices and the NYPD won't hassle you."
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Posted: 8/9/2009 8:09:21 PM EDT
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I can't imagine that he ever broke even. That's ridiculous.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:49:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:53:09 PM EDT
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Holy shit!
Almost 1800 bucks a day for vending rights? No wonder he was behind. |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:35:59 PM EDT
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New York ran the mob out so they could take over. I believe they ran the mob out because they didn't like the competition.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:38:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:40:26 PM EDT
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While that rent number seems a little outrageous, if this spot is as well traveled as some here suggest you could still make big money after all the rent bullshit. If this hotdog stand is usually holding a line, the question then becomes how fast the hotdog can be served. Even with just 2 employees im sure you could average 2 a minute during a rush. Granted i know nothing of this particular operation, but food cost on a hotdog can be absurdly low depending on quality, maybe south of 10 percent (assuming the going rate is 3.50). Even if they only sold 600 dogs a day (which i think is not all that high) the extras would add up to a decent profit.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:48:59 PM EDT
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At $3.50 per dog that's over 500 hot dogs PER DAY, just to pay the rent! Assuming he's there for 10 hours a day for easy figuring, that's an AVERAGE of 50 dogs sold per hour, or a little less than one per minute for 10 solid hours. NO WAY. You're assuming 30 days, try 20 and see the math. Yep numbers don't add up which is why I'm taking position city was starving his business taking all profits and he caught FU virus at the end and profit took himself for a change. Fuck em' damn socialists. I think we have a couple members here who have hot dog stands, or have had them. Last spring somebody was asking for advice on pricing his hot dogs, I think specifically combo meals and costs associated with condiments, and, a member or two started doing hot dog math, and it was pretty interesting looking at their costs, and other issues. It was a pretty cool discussion. Link! |
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Posted: 8/10/2009 12:37:27 AM EDT
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That's real smart of the city. Shut down a revenue stream because some guy can't sell the same number of hotdogs during a serious recession as he did when things were booming along. They'll be someone else to take his place, and pay the espenses in just a second.......................... Business, make money or go out of business. Hard to make money when the government takes half of it. I'm sorry, but I didn't see anyplace where it said the government held a gun to his head and made him bid for the location? |
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Posted: 8/10/2009 1:53:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2009 2:27:54 AM EDT
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this guy sell dogs at the same art center for only 2 bucks a dog.. and he is USMC. Sabrett hotdog cart vendor on Fifth Avenue near the Metropolitan Museum of Art  |
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Posted: 8/10/2009 2:35:18 AM EDT
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I can't imagine that he ever broke even. That's ridiculous. Then it's just as ridiculous that he AGREED to the rent. Yeah, I caught that part, too. |
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Posted: 8/10/2009 2:37:00 AM EDT
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I hope that he intentionally screwed NYC out of that money. I hope that he stuck it all back in cash and is heading out of that city with a pack full of jack giggling like a little girl. I truly hope that is the case.
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