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I've got a vacant KAC FF RAS and I'm thinking a .30 cal version of this could be a nice home for it. NF 2.5-10x32mm (?) NF 30mm Scope Rings (?) 16" Match Barrel - Not sure how .300 blk performs on a 16" barrel What Atlas bipod adapter is that? Could be fun |
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
16" Match Barrel - Not sure how .300 blk performs on a 16" barrel View Quote Pistol gas. Carbine works okay on 16's if you're shooting supers and subsonics suppressed. Sometimes, though, subs suppressed don't work properly with carbine gas (and they'll almost NEVER work unsuppressed). Pistol gas alleviates this altogether. Supers are fine no matter what though, so if you intend to shoot only supers, go with whatever gas system floats your boat. Pistol will make it much more versatile though, and if you get a hankerin to have the barrel cut back, you won't be fucked over by the gas system. |
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Originally Posted By ArmedFerret: Pistol gas. Carbine works okay on 16's if you're shooting supers and subsonics suppressed. Sometimes, though, subs suppressed don't work properly with carbine gas (and they'll almost NEVER work unsuppressed). Pistol gas alleviates this altogether. Supers are fine no matter what though, so if you intend to shoot only supers, go with whatever gas system floats your boat. Pistol will make it much more versatile though, and if you get a hankerin to have the barrel cut back, you won't be fucked over by the gas system. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmedFerret: Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: 16" Match Barrel - Not sure how .300 blk performs on a 16" barrel Pistol gas. Carbine works okay on 16's if you're shooting supers and subsonics suppressed. Sometimes, though, subs suppressed don't work properly with carbine gas (and they'll almost NEVER work unsuppressed). Pistol gas alleviates this altogether. Supers are fine no matter what though, so if you intend to shoot only supers, go with whatever gas system floats your boat. Pistol will make it much more versatile though, and if you get a hankerin to have the barrel cut back, you won't be fucked over by the gas system. Absolutely no need to go beyond 9" of barrel with .300 Black. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Absolutely no need to go beyond 9" of barrel with .300 Black. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
16" Match Barrel - Not sure how .300 blk performs on a 16" barrel Pistol gas. Carbine works okay on 16's if you're shooting supers and subsonics suppressed. Sometimes, though, subs suppressed don't work properly with carbine gas (and they'll almost NEVER work unsuppressed). Pistol gas alleviates this altogether. Supers are fine no matter what though, so if you intend to shoot only supers, go with whatever gas system floats your boat. Pistol will make it much more versatile though, and if you get a hankerin to have the barrel cut back, you won't be fucked over by the gas system. Absolutely no need to go beyond 9" of barrel with .300 Black. unless you plan on shooting only supers, live in a state where SBR's are a no-no (and pistol isn't your thing), or just don't want to hassle with a shorter barrel. ballistically, you're correct. no need for a longer barrel, no additional fps gain (well, it's small enough it's negligible for practical discussion), but some folks like to shoulder and either can't do it with a shorter barrel legally, or just don't want to go the pistol route. |
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20 January, 2015
The day we got him back. |
From what I've read over the past hour, a 16" .300 blk barrel doesn't seem to have any issues running suppressed or unsuppressed. Seems pretty common, actually.
Absolutely no need to go beyond 9" of barrel with .300 Black. View Quote This is the RECCE thread bro ...and the intent here is to clone the rifle pictured above (ain't no stinkin' 9" barrel) |
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: From what I've read over the past hour, a 16" .300 blk barrel doesn't seem to have any issues running suppressed or unsuppressed. Seems pretty common, actually. This is the RECCE thread bro ...and the intent here is to clone the rifle pictured above (ain't no stinkin' 9" barrel) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: From what I've read over the past hour, a 16" .300 blk barrel doesn't seem to have any issues running suppressed or unsuppressed. Seems pretty common, actually. Absolutely no need to go beyond 9" of barrel with .300 Black. This is the RECCE thread bro ...and the intent here is to clone the rifle pictured above (ain't no stinkin' 9" barrel) |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Absolutely no need to go beyond 9" of barrel with .300 Black. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
16" Match Barrel - Not sure how .300 blk performs on a 16" barrel Pistol gas. Carbine works okay on 16's if you're shooting supers and subsonics suppressed. Sometimes, though, subs suppressed don't work properly with carbine gas (and they'll almost NEVER work unsuppressed). Pistol gas alleviates this altogether. Supers are fine no matter what though, so if you intend to shoot only supers, go with whatever gas system floats your boat. Pistol will make it much more versatile though, and if you get a hankerin to have the barrel cut back, you won't be fucked over by the gas system. Absolutely no need to go beyond 9" of barrel with .300 Black. Like Utah said no need for a 300blk in anything over 9in. That was what the cartridge was designed around. Your only gaining 75fps going from 9-16in. Even if you want to hunt with supers the 9in is where it's at 110tac tsx is ungodly lethal all the way down to 1500 fps. That's about 250-300 yards from a 9in. On another note anyone running a 15in rail on a 16in barrel with an AAC suppressor in here? Would love an inspiration picture. I am going to start a recce build with a 16in bison barrel, 15in MI SS gen 2 rail, AAC brake/SDN6, and a 44mm objective optic. Debating on Vortex 4-16 or the PA FFP 4-14. I have the PA on my 22 precision trainer and it tracks dead on and the glass is great for a sub 300 optic, it has has held up on a buddies 308 bolt gun for about 2 years. Would be a great range gun optic. Probably run it in an ADM recon scout low mount so cheek weld with a sopmod is dead nuts... |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Perm'd NT4 today, so it's closer. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8679/16470329448_d96e8540a1_h.jpg Still need to decide on optics and pick up a legit fiberlite. View Quote I just love the way that thing looks, even without paint. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: I just love the way that thing looks, even without paint. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Perm'd NT4 today, so it's closer. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8679/16470329448_d96e8540a1_h.jpg Still need to decide on optics and pick up a legit fiberlite. I just love the way that thing looks, even without paint. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman: That means a lot comin' from you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Perm'd NT4 today, so it's closer. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8679/16470329448_d96e8540a1_h.jpg Still need to decide on optics and pick up a legit fiberlite. I just love the way that thing looks, even without paint. But I would still paint that shit. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Perm'd NT4 today, so it's closer. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/r6qK8o" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8679/16470329448_d96e8540a1_h.jpg</a> Still need to decide on optics and pick up a legit fiberlite. View Quote Really like this |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Fiberlite showed up today. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/raVLJh" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8646/16521259068_b2d4d13aa4_h.jpg</a> View Quote Best rifle in this thread, IMO. Major jealous of your MRE. |
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Originally Posted By Augee: As a dyed in the wool rattle-canner, I vote no paint for the MRE build. Though: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/SaddamSpiderHole.jpg Possibly painted MRE capturing Saddam (lower left corner)? Or maybe just very dusty, Iraq and all. Almost all of them photographed are un-painted, and frankly I think they look better that way - it's pretty hard to justify them as a "best option" for a non-clone build, no reason not to go full out "accurate" clone. Also, needs more Redi-Mag. ~Augee View Quote |
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I'm fluent in three languages: English, sarcasm and profanity.
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Great info post! Man they look heavy tho.
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/RTUtah/ARs/IMG_0182_zpsptvp1bz6.jpg View Quote GTFO here with that filth. |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: I'm thinking of a holland styled recce upper with a PRI rifle length HG, 14.5" barrel with a YHM mount for my can, and a 1-4x or aimpoint on it. hmmmmmm..........what u guys think? like this. http://s27.postimg.org/ff1y9r6hv/IMG_2891.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By patriot_man:
I just put the FSB from the Colt SOCOM barrel onto the Lilja to do a mock up for the hell of it but I have to say I am really tempted to build something out of this. http://i.imgur.com/Z7C4BuB.jpg View Quote I've been pretty in love with the one photograph of the "recce" with the "A" tube, Lilja barrel, A2 stock, and fixed FSB. Been debating whether or not I can justify getting KOBK's ARMS Versapod adapter off the EE for it. The terrible and unfortunate things is that I only have one MRE. There's at least three builds I'd like to do with one. ~Augee |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
GTFO here with that filth. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/RTUtah/ARs/IMG_0182_zpsptvp1bz6.jpg GTFO here with that filth. This Utah come this summer I'm painting mine like yours you sick bastard. |
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Originally Posted By MidwestJ: This Utah come this summer I'm painting mine like yours you sick bastard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MidwestJ: Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By RTUtah: http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/RTUtah/ARs/IMG_0182_zpsptvp1bz6.jpg GTFO here with that filth. This Utah come this summer I'm painting mine like yours you sick bastard. Haha, thanks y'all. And good luck with the pain job! |
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Originally Posted By Augee:
I've been pretty in love with the one photograph of the "recce" with the "A" tube, Lilja barrel, A2 stock, and fixed FSB. Been debating whether or not I can justify getting KOBK's ARMS Versapod adapter off the EE for it. The terrible and unfortunate things is that I only have one MRE. There's at least three builds I'd like to do with one. ~Augee View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
I just put the FSB from the Colt SOCOM barrel onto the Lilja to do a mock up for the hell of it but I have to say I am really tempted to build something out of this. http://i.imgur.com/Z7C4BuB.jpg I've been pretty in love with the one photograph of the "recce" with the "A" tube, Lilja barrel, A2 stock, and fixed FSB. Been debating whether or not I can justify getting KOBK's ARMS Versapod adapter off the EE for it. The terrible and unfortunate things is that I only have one MRE. There's at least three builds I'd like to do with one. ~Augee can you post that pic? not sure if ive seen it before. |
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Originally Posted By 10Point3:
can you post that pic? not sure if ive seen it before. View Quote It was a heavily cropped personal photograph posted by a member here a while back. Not too long afterwards, the photograph was removed. Not sure why this was done, but since the photograph belongs to someone else, and who posts in this thread, I'll let them decide whether they want to post it up again. It was a 16" Lilja barreled carbine with a fixed FSB, MRE-A, KAC M4QD comp, a Versapod, an A2-style lower forging, an A2 stock, and a Leupold MK4 3-9x36 (probably a TS30 variant, but to tell exactly). ~Augee |
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Originally Posted By stagepaint:
<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/butterscotchgent/media/IMG_1897_zps6d589a56.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/butterscotchgent/IMG_1897_zps6d589a56.jpg</a> <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/butterscotchgent/media/IMG_1891_zps23f02e75.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/butterscotchgent/IMG_1891_zps23f02e75.jpg</a> <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/butterscotchgent/media/IMG_1886_zps80c0ec6a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/butterscotchgent/IMG_1886_zps80c0ec6a.jpg</a> <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/butterscotchgent/media/IMG_1884_zps760509e8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/butterscotchgent/IMG_1884_zps760509e8.jpg</a> View Quote Now that's a badass RECCE. |
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"They are not men, they are weapons."
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stagepaint.....nice optic and rig. can and bipod need paint |
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Haha, thanks guys.
I'm about to buy a suppressor cover, so you won't be able to tell the can isn't painted. The bipod stays on my 700P (which isn't spray painted) most of the time, so that will remain unpainted for the time being as well.. Chainsaw away! |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
stagepaint.....nice optic and rig. can and bipod need paint morning all. the repaired can groups em nice again. I went out yesterday and the rig did great. the 385m steel is always a pain...thin and tall target. had some wind to play with. 2,3 & 500m steel was easy. I put my 22lr CMMG kit in it and I had to hold high about 4.3mil @100m for the subsonics lol. <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s8.postimg.org/itqdh0p5h/IMG_6075.jpg</a> View Quote Your paint is fuckin awesome. Idk about the leaf on the stock, but I guess it adds character. Fuckin love that paint job tho |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Your paint is fuckin awesome. Idk about the leaf on the stock, but I guess it adds character. Fuckin love that paint job tho View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: stagepaint.....nice optic and rig. can and bipod need paint morning all. the repaired can groups em nice again. I went out yesterday and the rig did great. the 385m steel is always a pain...thin and tall target. had some wind to play with. 2,3 & 500m steel was easy. I put my 22lr CMMG kit in it and I had to hold high about 4.3mil @100m for the subsonics lol. <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s8.postimg.org/itqdh0p5h/IMG_6075.jpg</a> Your paint is fuckin awesome. Idk about the leaf on the stock, but I guess it adds character. Fuckin love that paint job tho yeah I had to make due in the winter with no ferns. I think I might redo that spot as it's pretty pronounced. I hear ya. I used that stencil in a few spots to break it up. I didn't wanna overdo the snakeskin, but I might have to do some tweaking. I love the paint. It's getting all chipped u and nasty. thanks sir. |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
yeah I had to make due in the winter with no ferns. I think I might redo that spot as it's pretty pronounced. I hear ya. I used that stencil in a few spots to break it up. I didn't wanna overdo the snakeskin, but I might have to do some tweaking. I love the paint. It's getting all chipped u and nasty. thanks sir. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
stagepaint.....nice optic and rig. can and bipod need paint morning all. the repaired can groups em nice again. I went out yesterday and the rig did great. the 385m steel is always a pain...thin and tall target. had some wind to play with. 2,3 & 500m steel was easy. I put my 22lr CMMG kit in it and I had to hold high about 4.3mil @100m for the subsonics lol. <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s8.postimg.org/itqdh0p5h/IMG_6075.jpg</a> Your paint is fuckin awesome. Idk about the leaf on the stock, but I guess it adds character. Fuckin love that paint job tho yeah I had to make due in the winter with no ferns. I think I might redo that spot as it's pretty pronounced. I hear ya. I used that stencil in a few spots to break it up. I didn't wanna overdo the snakeskin, but I might have to do some tweaking. I love the paint. It's getting all chipped u and nasty. thanks sir. What brands/colors is it? Not prob dude. I have a backup AR that I want to go that direction with on paint |
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I just fixed it lol. Yeah it bothered me too. I also Added a bit more Army Green for summer time and some tan to make it break up more. I like at the end to use the olive over the khaki and army green for the snakeskin overlay. Also i mist the olive if when i am done there is tan that is just too pure tan and stands out. imgurl image upload no size limit free photo hosting Army Green, Khaki, Earth Brown and Olive. |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
I just fixed it lol. Yeah it bothered me too. I also Added a bit more Army Green for summer time and some tan to make it break up more. I like at the end to use the olive over the khaki and army green for the snakeskin overlay. Also i mist the olive if when i am done there is tan that is just too pure tan and stands out. <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s22.postimg.org/nv4586j1d/20150308_222819.jpg</a>imgurl <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s24.postimg.org/pd3doxpd1/20150308_222849_HDR.jpg</a> image upload no size limit <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s30.postimg.org/z108xdooh/1425868643381.jpg</a> free photo hosting Army Green, Khaki, Earth Brown and Olive. View Quote Sweet, looks like id just need the olive. Already have the other 3 surprisingly |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
I just fixed it lol. Yeah it bothered me too. I also Added a bit more Army Green for summer time and some tan to make it break up more. I like at the end to use the olive over the khaki and army green for the snakeskin overlay. Also i mist the olive if when i am done there is tan that is just too pure tan and stands out. <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s22.postimg.org/nv4586j1d/20150308_222819.jpg</a>imgurl <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s24.postimg.org/pd3doxpd1/20150308_222849_HDR.jpg</a> image upload no size limit <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s30.postimg.org/z108xdooh/1425868643381.jpg</a> free photo hosting Army Green, Khaki, Earth Brown and Olive. View Quote Shit, I liked the leaves in there on the old paint job.. New one looks good too though! I guess that's why spray paint is nice, you can redo it any time. |
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Originally Posted By stagepaint: Shit, I liked the leaves in there on the old paint job.. New one looks good too though! I guess that's why spray paint is nice, you can redo it any time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stagepaint: Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: I just fixed it lol. Yeah it bothered me too. I also Added a bit more Army Green for summer time and some tan to make it break up more. I like at the end to use the olive over the khaki and army green for the snakeskin overlay. Also i mist the olive if when i am done there is tan that is just too pure tan and stands out. <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s22.postimg.org/nv4586j1d/20150308_222819.jpg</a>imgurl <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s24.postimg.org/pd3doxpd1/20150308_222849_HDR.jpg</a> image upload no size limit <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s30.postimg.org/z108xdooh/1425868643381.jpg</a> free photo hosting Army Green, Khaki, Earth Brown and Olive. Shit, I liked the leaves in there on the old paint job.. New one looks good too though! I guess that's why spray paint is nice, you can redo it any time. The beuty of paint! well when the ferns come back i will prolly add some to it. The fern stencil was too "perfect" i think. |
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What's the device on the rail just forward of the scope? Camera?
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
This has slowly become one of my favorite rifles. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/ryT4LP" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8752/16781010475_0e44ee7b7c_h.jpg</a> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/rfyEhF" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7626/16573722527_f9a2a7b0cc_h.jpg</a> View Quote Cause recce style rifles are the best! ...and cause that one is set up awesome. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman: This has slowly become one of my favorite rifles. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8752/16781010475_0e44ee7b7c_h.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7626/16573722527_f9a2a7b0cc_h.jpg View Quote Now that is a real recce. Nice build sir. Super functional. |
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