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Posted: 1/25/2015 3:59:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
i love my block ii upper, buuuuut i have a feeling that if i didnt perm the flash hider, i would have sold the rails and put on some centurions or URX 3 or 4  I've had the Centurion 10'' and 12''. They are phenomenal rails - they give you quad and leave you with something a bit lighter than RIS 2. Do not hesitate to go Centurion. Their lock up I would argue is a slightly better design than the RIS 2 because it's not as exposed and for sure is rockkkkk solid. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 4:18:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JimboJones1:
Now I don't feel so crazy for wanting to buy another one... honestly I'm on the fence between doing a 10.5'' with RIS 2 or a 14.5'' with RIS 2 at some point this year. Then, if I move to a free state for a job there's a piece of me that just wants to do a KACSR15 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JimboJones1:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By JimboJones1:
Originally Posted By Ticklemylawls:
Anyone looking to sell a block ii upper? I have a Daniel defense mk18 upper or a LMT MK18 with aimpoint,Wilcox mount and surefire m951 to trade plus cash on my end. Not trying to spam the thread I just miss my block ii I understand, I miss my Block 2 14.5'' upper as well. It's probably the only upper that I actually miss. Strange because when I had it I just thought it was a heavy piece o' crap.  I've been through five M4A1 Block II uppers now. It's been a long, ongoing cycle of getting one, similarly thinking it's a crazy heavy upper that does no more than any other 14.5", selling it, and then a few months later, picking up yet another. Now I don't feel so crazy for wanting to buy another one... honestly I'm on the fence between doing a 10.5'' with RIS 2 or a 14.5'' with RIS 2 at some point this year. Then, if I move to a free state for a job there's a piece of me that just wants to do a KACSR15 I always toy around with the idea of selling my Block II upper for an SR15 upper, but I can't bring myself to do it. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 6:48:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: I do wish they would continue selling the rails separately as well. You know things are drying up when a DD rep posts in the mk 18 thread looking to buy the Mk 18 DD RIS II. I agree with the nation that the military orders should come before ours, but think switching to the "only if you buy a complete upper" route is garbage. It's all about cashing in tho, how the world works. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By Roadblock: Really is a shame DD has ruined the market for building these guns. They claimed they were discontinuing these rails so they could "supply military contacts" but clearly is was just a move to allow them to sell completed uppers and rifles themselves to cash in on the whole BLOCK II craze. I had someone offer me a complete M4-A1 COLT upper with the RIS II, 14.5 pinned and welded last week for $700.00, I should have said yes because I've had a couple of offers from people wanting $500~600 for JUST the rails. I was really hoping to build another BLOCK II but those SMR MK4's and NSR's are looking way more tempting now. About as bad as that guy who wanted $350.00 dollars for the 4-prong Surefire! Sigh... I do wish they would continue selling the rails separately as well. You know things are drying up when a DD rep posts in the mk 18 thread looking to buy the Mk 18 DD RIS II. I agree with the nation that the military orders should come before ours, but think switching to the "only if you buy a complete upper" route is garbage. It's all about cashing in tho, how the world works. LOL really? Ouch! So yeah LUCKY F'ING DAY for me! Yesterday anyway! My wife was out of town yesterday so I drove an hour to my hometown to visit a friend I have not seen in about 4 years. While I was there I stopped in the LGS that I had also not been in for probably 4 years either. It's one of the biggest gun shops in Michigan. So I'm browsing around in the AR section and I see two DD boxes sitting in a glass cabinet but I can't see WHAT rails they are because they are backwards. So I ask and the guy tells me the boxes say M4-A1 RIS II. My heart skips a beat... I had him pull one out but it was the black rail. He pulls the second one out and SCORE! It's the FDE rail. Then he proceeds to tell me that he thinks they have a few more in the back, they just don't seem to sell. The price? Box was marked $399.99 MARKED DOWN TO $330.00! Guy says do you have cash? If you pay cash, I'll do $300.00 out the door today only. I just so happened to have the cash on me. I had just sold something that day and I had the cash I was going to use to buy a COLT SOCOM barrel but I can get those anytime so I got the M4-A1 RIS II FDE while I could because I know I'm not getting one off the Classified here for $300.00 new in the box! :) SCORE! Seriously! Obviously he has no idea what they had. Story does get a little better though. I got home and pulled everything out of the box and there was something else under the parts baggy... A brand new in the bag Spikes Tactical ST-02 Tungsten Heavy Buffer. No idea why it was in there but double score I guess? Shops an hour away and this was the first time I've been there in 4~5 years so I'm not running back to give it to them LOL! :)  |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 7:04:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
LOL really? Ouch! So yeah LUCKY F'ING DAY for me! Yesterday anyway! My wife was out of town yesterday so I drove an hour to my hometown to visit a friend I have not seen in about 4 years. While I was there I stopped in the LGS that I had also not been in for probably 4 years either. It's one of the biggest gun shops in Michigan. So I'm browsing around in the AR section and I see two DD boxes sitting in a glass cabinet but I can't see WHAT rails they are because they are backwards. So I ask and the guy tells me the boxes say M4-A1 RIS II. My heart skips a beat... I had him pull one out but it was the black rail. He pulls the second one out and SCORE! It's the FDE rail. Then he proceeds to tell me that he thinks they have a few more in the back, they just don't seem to sell. The price? Box was marked $399.99 MARKED DOWN TO $330.00! Guy says do you have cash? If you pay cash, I'll do $300.00 out the door today only. I just so happened to have the cash on me. I had just sold something that day and I had the cash I was going to use to buy a COLT SOCOM barrel but I can get those anytime so I got the M4-A1 RIS II FDE while I could because I know I'm not getting one off the Classified here for $300.00 new in the box! :) SCORE! Seriously! Obviously he has no idea what they had. Story does get a little better though. I got home and pulled everything out of the box and there was something else under the parts baggy... A brand new in the bag Spikes Tactical ST-02 Tungsten Heavy Buffer. No idea why it was in there but double score I guess? Shops an hour away and this was the first time I've been there in 4~5 years so I'm not running back to give it to them LOL! :) http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/IMG_20150125_175530_zpsyipvr6hl.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Really is a shame DD has ruined the market for building these guns. They claimed they were discontinuing these rails so they could "supply military contacts" but clearly is was just a move to allow them to sell completed uppers and rifles themselves to cash in on the whole BLOCK II craze. I had someone offer me a complete M4-A1 COLT upper with the RIS II, 14.5 pinned and welded last week for $700.00, I should have said yes because I've had a couple of offers from people wanting $500~600 for JUST the rails. I was really hoping to build another BLOCK II but those SMR MK4's and NSR's are looking way more tempting now. About as bad as that guy who wanted $350.00 dollars for the 4-prong Surefire! Sigh... I do wish they would continue selling the rails separately as well. You know things are drying up when a DD rep posts in the mk 18 thread looking to buy the Mk 18 DD RIS II. I agree with the nation that the military orders should come before ours, but think switching to the "only if you buy a complete upper" route is garbage. It's all about cashing in tho, how the world works. LOL really? Ouch! So yeah LUCKY F'ING DAY for me! Yesterday anyway! My wife was out of town yesterday so I drove an hour to my hometown to visit a friend I have not seen in about 4 years. While I was there I stopped in the LGS that I had also not been in for probably 4 years either. It's one of the biggest gun shops in Michigan. So I'm browsing around in the AR section and I see two DD boxes sitting in a glass cabinet but I can't see WHAT rails they are because they are backwards. So I ask and the guy tells me the boxes say M4-A1 RIS II. My heart skips a beat... I had him pull one out but it was the black rail. He pulls the second one out and SCORE! It's the FDE rail. Then he proceeds to tell me that he thinks they have a few more in the back, they just don't seem to sell. The price? Box was marked $399.99 MARKED DOWN TO $330.00! Guy says do you have cash? If you pay cash, I'll do $300.00 out the door today only. I just so happened to have the cash on me. I had just sold something that day and I had the cash I was going to use to buy a COLT SOCOM barrel but I can get those anytime so I got the M4-A1 RIS II FDE while I could because I know I'm not getting one off the Classified here for $300.00 new in the box! :) SCORE! Seriously! Obviously he has no idea what they had. Story does get a little better though. I got home and pulled everything out of the box and there was something else under the parts baggy... A brand new in the bag Spikes Tactical ST-02 Tungsten Heavy Buffer. No idea why it was in there but double score I guess? Shops an hour away and this was the first time I've been there in 4~5 years so I'm not running back to give it to them LOL! :) http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/IMG_20150125_175530_zpsyipvr6hl.jpg Nice man! You did score. You gettin ready to strip the gold fingers out of those hard drives? 
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Posted: 1/25/2015 7:28:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Nice man! You did score. You gettin ready to strip the gold fingers out of those hard drives? Awesome on the rail and buffer tho. I want one purdy bad. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By Roadblock: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By Roadblock: Really is a shame DD has ruined the market for building these guns. They claimed they were discontinuing these rails so they could "supply military contacts" but clearly is was just a move to allow them to sell completed uppers and rifles themselves to cash in on the whole BLOCK II craze. I had someone offer me a complete M4-A1 COLT upper with the RIS II, 14.5 pinned and welded last week for $700.00, I should have said yes because I've had a couple of offers from people wanting $500~600 for JUST the rails. I was really hoping to build another BLOCK II but those SMR MK4's and NSR's are looking way more tempting now. About as bad as that guy who wanted $350.00 dollars for the 4-prong Surefire! Sigh... I do wish they would continue selling the rails separately as well. You know things are drying up when a DD rep posts in the mk 18 thread looking to buy the Mk 18 DD RIS II. I agree with the nation that the military orders should come before ours, but think switching to the "only if you buy a complete upper" route is garbage. It's all about cashing in tho, how the world works. LOL really? Ouch! So yeah LUCKY F'ING DAY for me! Yesterday anyway! My wife was out of town yesterday so I drove an hour to my hometown to visit a friend I have not seen in about 4 years. While I was there I stopped in the LGS that I had also not been in for probably 4 years either. It's one of the biggest gun shops in Michigan. So I'm browsing around in the AR section and I see two DD boxes sitting in a glass cabinet but I can't see WHAT rails they are because they are backwards. So I ask and the guy tells me the boxes say M4-A1 RIS II. My heart skips a beat... I had him pull one out but it was the black rail. He pulls the second one out and SCORE! It's the FDE rail. Then he proceeds to tell me that he thinks they have a few more in the back, they just don't seem to sell. The price? Box was marked $399.99 MARKED DOWN TO $330.00! Guy says do you have cash? If you pay cash, I'll do $300.00 out the door today only. I just so happened to have the cash on me. I had just sold something that day and I had the cash I was going to use to buy a COLT SOCOM barrel but I can get those anytime so I got the M4-A1 RIS II FDE while I could because I know I'm not getting one off the Classified here for $300.00 new in the box! :) SCORE! Seriously! Obviously he has no idea what they had. Story does get a little better though. I got home and pulled everything out of the box and there was something else under the parts baggy... A brand new in the bag Spikes Tactical ST-02 Tungsten Heavy Buffer. No idea why it was in there but double score I guess? Shops an hour away and this was the first time I've been there in 4~5 years so I'm not running back to give it to them LOL! :) http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/IMG_20150125_175530_zpsyipvr6hl.jpg Nice man! You did score. You gettin ready to strip the gold fingers out of those hard drives? Awesome on the rail and buffer tho. I want one purdy bad. Well actually, I bought 5, 4 Terabyte Western Digital hard drives because I was going to upgrade my 4 Terebyte Plex Media Server to a 16 Terebyte (Raid 5 4+1 drive setup) so that I could rip all of my Blu-Ray dicks to .mkv files and access them on any of the TV's in the house. However I got lazy and never used the drives so I had put them on for "trade" here actually, trying to score build parts for my second BLOCK II rifle. Someone offered me a complete upper for all 5 but it was a Bushmaster 11.5 inch so that really doesn't fit the BLOCK II mold if you will! =) I had them out so I could take pictures, I think I'm just going to eBay them. I should be able to get $500 bucks out of them. I obviously need another BLOCK II rifle MORE than a bigger Plex Server for um, reasons......... :)  |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 7:30:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
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And by Blu-Ray dicks, I'm obviously talking about my gay porn here............
BLU-RAY DISCS! Typo... Cough cough... |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 7:52:52 PM EDT
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Btw... Does anyone have a LMT SOPMOD or COLT N1 they want to part with? Yes I posted in the Classified back on December asking but I never get any hits off that for WTB items. I ask here, I get results.
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Posted: 1/25/2015 8:48:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
LOL really? Ouch! So yeah LUCKY F'ING DAY for me! Yesterday anyway! My wife was out of town yesterday so I drove an hour to my hometown to visit a friend I have not seen in about 4 years. While I was there I stopped in the LGS that I had also not been in for probably 4 years either. It's one of the biggest gun shops in Michigan. So I'm browsing around in the AR section and I see two DD boxes sitting in a glass cabinet but I can't see WHAT rails they are because they are backwards. So I ask and the guy tells me the boxes say M4-A1 RIS II. My heart skips a beat... I had him pull one out but it was the black rail. He pulls the second one out and SCORE! It's the FDE rail. Then he proceeds to tell me that he thinks they have a few more in the back, they just don't seem to sell. The price? Box was marked $399.99 MARKED DOWN TO $330.00! Guy says do you have cash? If you pay cash, I'll do $300.00 out the door today only. I just so happened to have the cash on me. I had just sold something that day and I had the cash I was going to use to buy a COLT SOCOM barrel but I can get those anytime so I got the M4-A1 RIS II FDE while I could because I know I'm not getting one off the Classified here for $300.00 new in the box! :) SCORE! Seriously! Obviously he has no idea what they had. Story does get a little better though. I got home and pulled everything out of the box and there was something else under the parts baggy... A brand new in the bag Spikes Tactical ST-02 Tungsten Heavy Buffer. No idea why it was in there but double score I guess? Shops an hour away and this was the first time I've been there in 4~5 years so I'm not running back to give it to them LOL! :) http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/IMG_20150125_175530_zpsyipvr6hl.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Really is a shame DD has ruined the market for building these guns. They claimed they were discontinuing these rails so they could "supply military contacts" but clearly is was just a move to allow them to sell completed uppers and rifles themselves to cash in on the whole BLOCK II craze. I had someone offer me a complete M4-A1 COLT upper with the RIS II, 14.5 pinned and welded last week for $700.00, I should have said yes because I've had a couple of offers from people wanting $500~600 for JUST the rails. I was really hoping to build another BLOCK II but those SMR MK4's and NSR's are looking way more tempting now. About as bad as that guy who wanted $350.00 dollars for the 4-prong Surefire! Sigh... I do wish they would continue selling the rails separately as well. You know things are drying up when a DD rep posts in the mk 18 thread looking to buy the Mk 18 DD RIS II. I agree with the nation that the military orders should come before ours, but think switching to the "only if you buy a complete upper" route is garbage. It's all about cashing in tho, how the world works. LOL really? Ouch! So yeah LUCKY F'ING DAY for me! Yesterday anyway! My wife was out of town yesterday so I drove an hour to my hometown to visit a friend I have not seen in about 4 years. While I was there I stopped in the LGS that I had also not been in for probably 4 years either. It's one of the biggest gun shops in Michigan. So I'm browsing around in the AR section and I see two DD boxes sitting in a glass cabinet but I can't see WHAT rails they are because they are backwards. So I ask and the guy tells me the boxes say M4-A1 RIS II. My heart skips a beat... I had him pull one out but it was the black rail. He pulls the second one out and SCORE! It's the FDE rail. Then he proceeds to tell me that he thinks they have a few more in the back, they just don't seem to sell. The price? Box was marked $399.99 MARKED DOWN TO $330.00! Guy says do you have cash? If you pay cash, I'll do $300.00 out the door today only. I just so happened to have the cash on me. I had just sold something that day and I had the cash I was going to use to buy a COLT SOCOM barrel but I can get those anytime so I got the M4-A1 RIS II FDE while I could because I know I'm not getting one off the Classified here for $300.00 new in the box! :) SCORE! Seriously! Obviously he has no idea what they had. Story does get a little better though. I got home and pulled everything out of the box and there was something else under the parts baggy... A brand new in the bag Spikes Tactical ST-02 Tungsten Heavy Buffer. No idea why it was in there but double score I guess? Shops an hour away and this was the first time I've been there in 4~5 years so I'm not running back to give it to them LOL! :) http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/IMG_20150125_175530_zpsyipvr6hl.jpg Good score there. I would've had him pull the rest in the back and bought up the remaining FDE RIS II rails, bank. 
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Posted: 1/25/2015 9:15:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prskiller: Good score there. I would've had him pull the rest in the back and bought up the remaining FDE RIS II rails, bank. Funny you mention that. When I get paid this next week I'm going to go back and get a couple more of them and toss them on eBay and see what happens. I need a SOCOM barrel, a COLT BCG, COLT stripped complete upper if anyone might wanna work some trades! LOL! :D
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Posted: 1/25/2015 9:38:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Funny you mention that. When I get paid this next week I'm going to go back and get a couple more of them and toss them on eBay and see what happens. I need a SOCOM barrel, a COLT BCG, COLT stripped complete upper if anyone might wanna work some trades! LOL! :D Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By prskiller:
Good score there. I would've had him pull the rest in the back and bought up the remaining FDE RIS II rails, bank. Funny you mention that. When I get paid this next week I'm going to go back and get a couple more of them and toss them on eBay and see what happens. I need a SOCOM barrel, a COLT BCG, COLT stripped complete upper if anyone might wanna work some trades! LOL! :D What magical gun shop in Michigan is this? |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 10:03:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock: Btw... Does anyone have a LMT SOPMOD or COLT N1 they want to part with? Yes I posted in the Classified back on December asking but I never get any hits off that for WTB items. I ask here, I get results. Well that was QUICK! God I love this thread! No bullshit, I've had a post in the WTB since the beginning of December asking for one and found nothing decent! Post here, boom and done! :) Thanks for the N1 stock person who just sold me one for $35.00 shipped that doesn't look like it was blown up or run over by a truck!
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Posted: 1/25/2015 10:22:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Funny you mention that. When I get paid this next week I'm going to go back and get a couple more of them and toss them on eBay and see what happens. I need a SOCOM barrel, a COLT BCG, COLT stripped complete upper if anyone might wanna work some trades! LOL! :D Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By prskiller:
Good score there. I would've had him pull the rest in the back and bought up the remaining FDE RIS II rails, bank. Funny you mention that. When I get paid this next week I'm going to go back and get a couple more of them and toss them on eBay and see what happens. I need a SOCOM barrel, a COLT BCG, COLT stripped complete upper if anyone might wanna work some trades! LOL! :D They will sell quick for sure. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 10:38:44 PM EDT
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The thing that makes me SICK...
A few years ago I had several MK18 RIS II FSP rails. Brand new in the white cardboard box, sealed in the foil packs. Straight US gov stuff. Couldn't move 'em on the EE. Think I unloaded 'em for like $200 each. 
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Posted: 1/25/2015 10:40:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
The thing that makes me SICK... A few years ago I had several MK18 RIS II FSP rails. Brand new in the white cardboard box, sealed in the foil packs. Straight US gov stuff. Couldn't move 'em on the EE. Think I unloaded 'em for like $200 each. Damn dude that sucks. I always kick myself for not picking one up when they were still for sale. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 10:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
The thing that makes me SICK... A few years ago I had several MK18 RIS II FSP rails. Brand new in the white cardboard box, sealed in the foil packs. Straight US gov stuff. Couldn't move 'em on the EE. Think I unloaded 'em for like $200 each. Ouch |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 1:01:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse: The thing that makes me SICK... A few years ago I had several MK18 RIS II FSP rails. Brand new in the white cardboard box, sealed in the foil packs. Straight US gov stuff. Couldn't move 'em on the EE. Think I unloaded 'em for like $200 each. Yep that is how it goes man! Kinda reminds me of those Surefire 4-prong flash hiders that were never sold to the public. When those Industry Partners got there hands on them and leaked them out, they barely moved for $85.00 dollars a pop. I remember one of the guys telling me that he had a bunch of them and could hardly sell them. Now people want like $200~300.00 for them and they seem to sell at those prices. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 1:12:43 AM EDT
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QUESTION!
So I'm building my second BLOCK II rifle. Sorry I ever sold my first. Trying to decide is um I want to do another upper using full DD parts again OR go for the true COLT upper. I'm almost thinking the COLT build might be cheaper. A SOCOM barrel seems to cost the same as a DD 14.5 or 16 inch M4 profile. The COLT and DD BCG's seem to roughly both be around $200 bucks. Now for a stripped upper, for those of you who are trying to do true COLT style upper builds, are you tracking down actual COLT stripped uppers or use using whatever?
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Posted: 1/26/2015 2:16:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
QUESTION! So I'm building my second BLOCK II rifle. Sorry I ever sold my first. Trying to decide is um I want to do another upper using full DD parts again OR go for the true COLT upper. I'm almost thinking the COLT build might be cheaper. A SOCOM barrel seems to cost the same as a DD 14.5 or 16 inch M4 profile. The COLT and DD BCG's seem to roughly both be around $200 bucks. Now for a stripped upper, for those of you who are trying to do true COLT style upper builds, are you tracking down actual COLT stripped uppers or use using whatever? Last I saw there was an FNMI M4 upper on the EE for $70 or something like that.
Beyond that, if you're wanting to do an "all correct" clone, then yes, a Colt, or possibly FNMI upper would be the most "correct." There seem to be a lot of fairly affordable Colt take-offs available at any given time in the EE. ~Augee |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 2:45:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Well that was QUICK! God I love this thread! No bullshit, I've had a post in the WTB since the beginning of December asking for one and found nothing decent! Post here, boom and done! :) Thanks for the N1 stock person who just sold me one for $35.00 shipped that doesn't look like it was blown up or run over by a truck! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Btw... Does anyone have a LMT SOPMOD or COLT N1 they want to part with? Yes I posted in the Classified back on December asking but I never get any hits off that for WTB items. I ask here, I get results. Well that was QUICK! God I love this thread! No bullshit, I've had a post in the WTB since the beginning of December asking for one and found nothing decent! Post here, boom and done! :) Thanks for the N1 stock person who just sold me one for $35.00 shipped that doesn't look like it was blown up or run over by a truck! Traded four GI mags for an N1 not too long ago. 
I keep meaning to pick up one of the repros, or one of the banged up originals so I won't feel so bad about painting it. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 5:42:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dog_dad]
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RC on PR?
FH-556RC 
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Posted: 1/26/2015 9:54:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By patriot_man:
RC on PR? http://i.imgur.com/VeIYRpQl.jpg?1 FH-556RC http://i.imgur.com/Bni5YP7l.jpg?1 Yep, not every M4A1 has a RIS II yet. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 10:34:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cmcflex]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By patriot_man:
RC on PR? http://i.imgur.com/VeIYRpQl.jpg?1 FH-556RC http://i.imgur.com/Bni5YP7l.jpg?1 We have seen a few instances of FH556-RCs on PRs before: 
ETA: 
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Posted: 1/26/2015 8:55:45 PM EDT
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I'm also looking for a 14.5" block II upper. I just can't get enough.
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Posted: 1/26/2015 10:07:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hawkeye180]
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I want to start collecting parts to build a Block II rifle. Should I buy the Knights Armament taupe sight that I found?
I also need to save for graduate school. This thread is terrible...
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Posted: 1/26/2015 10:08:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hawkeye180:
I want to start collecting parts to build a Block II rifle. Should I buy the Knights Armament taupe sight that I found? This thread is terrible... That would be a good start as the taupe sight can be hard to find at times. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 11:15:08 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hawkeye180:
I want to start collecting parts to build a Block II rifle. Should I buy the Knights Armament taupe sight that I found? I also need to save for graduate school. This thread is terrible... You could also do a FSP build, eliminating the need for a KAC front BUIS all together. 
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2015 11:41:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee: Last I saw there was an FNMI M4 upper on the EE for $70 or something like that. Beyond that, if you're wanting to do an "all correct" clone, then yes, a Colt, or possibly FNMI upper would be the most "correct." There seem to be a lot of fairly affordable Colt take-offs available at any given time in the EE. ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee: Originally Posted By Roadblock: QUESTION! So I'm building my second BLOCK II rifle. Sorry I ever sold my first. Trying to decide is um I want to do another upper using full DD parts again OR go for the true COLT upper. I'm almost thinking the COLT build might be cheaper. A SOCOM barrel seems to cost the same as a DD 14.5 or 16 inch M4 profile. The COLT and DD BCG's seem to roughly both be around $200 bucks. Now for a stripped upper, for those of you who are trying to do true COLT style upper builds, are you tracking down actual COLT stripped uppers or use using whatever? Last I saw there was an FNMI M4 upper on the EE for $70 or something like that. Beyond that, if you're wanting to do an "all correct" clone, then yes, a Colt, or possibly FNMI upper would be the most "correct." There seem to be a lot of fairly affordable Colt take-offs available at any given time in the EE. ~Augee SPEAKING OF FNMI.... So um FNMI parts would now be clone kosher from what I'm understanding due to the contract. SO... I've seen these FNMI 1/7 FN roll marked barrels for like $160.00 dollars. Why? Why are they so cheap if they are made by FN? The price point is almost scaring me away. I was going to get a SOCOM barrel but $160.00 is hard to beat if it's a true FN barrel. Am I misunderstanding something here? Because if I can get an FN barrel for $160, maybe score a used FNMI (F Keyhole marked) upper for $70.00 or so, hell this this will be one of the cheapest builds I've ever done. The only thing I would be missing would be the gas block and BCG. Would love to score a matching FNMI BCG if they are to be had. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 11:56:38 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
SPEAKING OF FNMI.... So um FNMI parts would now be clone kosher from what I'm understanding due to the contract. SO... I've seen these FNMI 1/7 FN roll marked barrels for like $160.00 dollars. Why? Why are they so cheap if they are made by FN? The price point is almost scaring me away. I was going to get a SOCOM barrel but $160.00 is hard to beat if it's a true FN barrel. Am I misunderstanding something here? Because if I can get an FN barrel for $160, maybe score a used FNMI (F Keyhole marked) upper for $70.00 or so, hell this this will be one of the cheapest builds I've ever done. The only thing I would be missing would be the gas block and BCG. Would love to score a matching FNMI BCG if they are to be had. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
QUESTION! So I'm building my second BLOCK II rifle. Sorry I ever sold my first. Trying to decide is um I want to do another upper using full DD parts again OR go for the true COLT upper. I'm almost thinking the COLT build might be cheaper. A SOCOM barrel seems to cost the same as a DD 14.5 or 16 inch M4 profile. The COLT and DD BCG's seem to roughly both be around $200 bucks. Now for a stripped upper, for those of you who are trying to do true COLT style upper builds, are you tracking down actual COLT stripped uppers or use using whatever? Last I saw there was an FNMI M4 upper on the EE for $70 or something like that.
Beyond that, if you're wanting to do an "all correct" clone, then yes, a Colt, or possibly FNMI upper would be the most "correct." There seem to be a lot of fairly affordable Colt take-offs available at any given time in the EE. ~Augee SPEAKING OF FNMI.... So um FNMI parts would now be clone kosher from what I'm understanding due to the contract. SO... I've seen these FNMI 1/7 FN roll marked barrels for like $160.00 dollars. Why? Why are they so cheap if they are made by FN? The price point is almost scaring me away. I was going to get a SOCOM barrel but $160.00 is hard to beat if it's a true FN barrel. Am I misunderstanding something here? Because if I can get an FN barrel for $160, maybe score a used FNMI (F Keyhole marked) upper for $70.00 or so, hell this this will be one of the cheapest builds I've ever done. The only thing I would be missing would be the gas block and BCG. Would love to score a matching FNMI BCG if they are to be had. Where are you seeing $160 FNMI barrels? 14.5" or 16"? |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:05:29 AM EDT
[#29]
I'm debating switching mine from an FSP to a standard version with the Knights front sight. It sounds expensive though.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:08:21 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21: You could also do a FSP build, eliminating the need for a KAC front BUIS all together. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7455/16375873471_c630eb172c_b.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/16191379169_7e6caf25b3_b.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21: Originally Posted By hawkeye180: I want to start collecting parts to build a Block II rifle. Should I buy the Knights Armament taupe sight that I found? I also need to save for graduate school. This thread is terrible... You could also do a FSP build, eliminating the need for a KAC front BUIS all together. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7455/16375873471_c630eb172c_b.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/16191379169_7e6caf25b3_b.jpg |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:59:11 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21: Where are you seeing $160 FNMI barrels? 14.5" or 16"? PSA and they are 16" However I have a friend who owns a machine shop and is really into AR's, he does all his own AR barrel chops and I swear they look better than factory sometimes. He would cut it to 14.5 and pin/weld it for beer. I think I figured it out. They are not CHF. But for $159.00 dollars, up until my last DD build I'd never owned a CHF barrel and all my AR's have always been fine for what I do so I think I'm going to try one out. I see several people here in this thread have tried them and posted in another thread about the CHF and non-CHF versions and commented that they both work fine.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 1:19:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Love this thread and build discussion. I have been reading from page one, and gained a lot of information. Couple questions as I start to piece parts together for my second build. Is using the black RIS 2 instead of FDE GTG, and what about the Tango down vertgrip with the QD or the Daniel Defense ConVert Foregrip? My plan is using BCM lower, BCM SOCOM upper with pinned Mod 1, and EOTech 553. Sorry for my ignorance, as I'm still researching the best I can.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 2:25:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Edward_Tz]
[#33]
Debating on selling the upper. This stuff is just too hard to come by now a days. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 2:27:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NAC_Instructor: Love this thread and build discussion. I have been reading from page one, and gained a lot of information. Couple questions as I start to piece parts together for my second build. Is using the black RIS 2 instead of FDE GTG, and what about the Tango down vertgrip with the QD or the Daniel Defense ConVert Foregrip? My plan is using BCM lower, BCM SOCOM upper with pinned Mod 1, and EOTech 553. Sorry for my ignorance, as I'm still researching the best I can. Well if you want to be anal about it, it would be made from COLT or FN parts and you would use the FDE rail. That said, I've always based my BLOCK II stuff on Noveske and Daniel Defense. Also they make this stuff called spray paint. If you paint your rifle, who's to tell the difference but technically no, black is not GTG. Given how hard it is to find FDE rails at a good price though, spray paint for the win.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:03:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
[#35]
I don't suppose anyone has any COLT M4, COLT SOCOM or Daniel Defense barrels laying around they want to sell do they? Looking for a barrel for my new BLOCK II upper.
I'd consider 14.5 or 16" OR if anyones looking to part out a BLOCK II upper, I might consider an already pinned and welded barrel and I could send you my brand new barrel nut so you have one to sell with your rail. I never have any luck with this stuff in the EE so don't yell at me! I post in the EE, I get nothing. I post here and someone hooks me up in like one day. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:40:32 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock: Well if you want to be anal about it, it would be made from COLT or FN parts and you would use the FDE rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock: Originally Posted By NAC_Instructor: Love this thread and build discussion. I have been reading from page one, and gained a lot of information. Couple questions as I start to piece parts together for my second build. Is using the black RIS 2 instead of FDE GTG, and what about the Tango down vertgrip with the QD or the Daniel Defense ConVert Foregrip? My plan is using BCM lower, BCM SOCOM upper with pinned Mod 1, and EOTech 553. Sorry for my ignorance, as I'm still researching the best I can. Well if you want to be anal about it, it would be made from COLT or FN parts and you would use the FDE rail. That said, I've always based my BLOCK II stuff on Noveske and Daniel Defense. Also they make this stuff called spray paint. If you paint your rifle, who's to tell the difference but technically no, black is not GTG. Given how hard it is to find FDE rails at a good price though, spray paint for the win. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:44:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Just throwing this out there, im Lookin to trade my black non law guns SU-231/PEQ + cash for ACOG (M150, TA31,etc) Let me know if you're interested
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:49:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Could you buy the black RIS II, then send it to U.S. Anodizing? They do have the DD FDE as an option...
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:19:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OrondoShooter: Could you buy the black RIS II, then send it to U.S. Anodizing? They do have the DD FDE as an option... I just asked this very question last week. Lucky for me, I ended up scoring a new in the box RIS II in FDE for $300.00 dollars out the door at an LGS! :) Hi Roadblock (name edited!), |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:23:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Just throwing this out there, im Lookin to trade my black non law guns SU-231/PEQ + cash for ACOG (M150, TA31,etc) Let me know if you're interested |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:31:11 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Who was that for? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Just throwing this out there, im Lookin to trade my black non law guns SU-231/PEQ + cash for ACOG (M150, TA31,etc) Let me know if you're interested Anybody that has an ACOG but wants an EOTech 553 |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:34:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Anybody that has an ACOG but wants an EOTech 553 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By Roadblock: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Just throwing this out there, im Lookin to trade my black non law guns SU-231/PEQ + cash for ACOG (M150, TA31,etc) Let me know if you're interested Anybody that has an ACOG but wants an EOTech 553 AHHHHH! :) Speaking of EOTECH, it's been a good week!   |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:36:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
AHHHHH! :) Speaking of EOTECH, it's been a good week! http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/20131210_212907_zpsyg8junfu.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/20140317_174253_zps13da12c2.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Just throwing this out there, im Lookin to trade my black non law guns SU-231/PEQ + cash for ACOG (M150, TA31,etc) Let me know if you're interested Anybody that has an ACOG but wants an EOTech 553 AHHHHH! :) Speaking of EOTECH, it's been a good week! http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/20131210_212907_zpsyg8junfu.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/20140317_174253_zps13da12c2.jpg Sweeeeet. I liked my EXPS. Traded it for the 553. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:37:48 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Sweeeeet. I liked my EXPS. Traded it for the 553. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By Roadblock: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By Roadblock: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Just throwing this out there, im Lookin to trade my black non law guns SU-231/PEQ + cash for ACOG (M150, TA31,etc) Let me know if you're interested Anybody that has an ACOG but wants an EOTech 553 AHHHHH! :) Speaking of EOTECH, it's been a good week! http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/20131210_212907_zpsyg8junfu.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/Block%20II%20M4-A1/20140317_174253_zps13da12c2.jpg Sweeeeet. I liked my EXPS. Traded it for the 553. WHY! Why in gods name would you ever do that! Even the SF boys switched to the SU-231a.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:45:26 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Sweeeeet. I liked my EXPS. Traded it for the 553. WHY! Why in gods name would you ever do that! Even the SF boys switched to the SU-231a. The 553 is the most rugged EOTech made to date. It can dive to 66 ft for 2 hours, EXPS is 33 ft for 2 hrs. The 553 had to undergo more torture/ drop testing etc that the EXPS didn't, things of that nature. The EXPS is a tough sight too though. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:55:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NAC_Instructor]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Well if you want to be anal about it, it would be made from COLT or FN parts and you would use the FDE rail. That said, I've always based my BLOCK II stuff on Noveske and Daniel Defense. Also they make this stuff called spray paint. If you paint your rifle, who's to tell the difference but technically no, black is not GTG. Given how hard it is to find FDE rails at a good price though, spray paint for the win. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By NAC_Instructor:
Love this thread and build discussion. I have been reading from page one, and gained a lot of information. Couple questions as I start to piece parts together for my second build. Is using the black RIS 2 instead of FDE GTG, and what about the Tango down vertgrip with the QD or the Daniel Defense ConVert Foregrip? My plan is using BCM lower, BCM SOCOM upper with pinned Mod 1, and EOTech 553. Sorry for my ignorance, as I'm still researching the best I can. Well if you want to be anal about it, it would be made from COLT or FN parts and you would use the FDE rail. That said, I've always based my BLOCK II stuff on Noveske and Daniel Defense. Also they make this stuff called spray paint. If you paint your rifle, who's to tell the difference but technically no, black is not GTG. Given how hard it is to find FDE rails at a good price though, spray paint for the win. Interesting, because the black RIS is described as part of SOPMOD 2 program for SOCOM. I guess piss canning or cerakote is an option as well. I guess the VG's are GTG, either Tango or DD. http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Daniel-Defense-AR15-M4A1-RIS-II-FSP-Handguard-BLAC-p/dd%208030%20black.htm |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:59:03 PM EDT
[#47]
Interesting... Every time I see someone post a picture of a M4-A1 with a Black RIS II everyone is like, nice rifle, wrong section...
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:02:13 PM EDT
[#48]
Exactly....so what is the correct finish for the B5 stock? If it's black, and you use FDE even though they are the same NSN, is it wrong?
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:02:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cjwwd2]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NAC_Instructor:
Interesting, because the black RIS is described as part of SOPMOD 2 program for SOCOM. I guess piss canning or cerakote is an option as well. I guess the VG's are GTG, either Tango or DD. http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Daniel-Defense-AR15-M4A1-RIS-II-FSP-Handguard-BLAC-p/dd%208030%20black.htm Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NAC_Instructor:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By NAC_Instructor:
Love this thread and build discussion. I have been reading from page one, and gained a lot of information. Couple questions as I start to piece parts together for my second build. Is using the black RIS 2 instead of FDE GTG, and what about the Tango down vertgrip with the QD or the Daniel Defense ConVert Foregrip? My plan is using BCM lower, BCM SOCOM upper with pinned Mod 1, and EOTech 553. Sorry for my ignorance, as I'm still researching the best I can. Well if you want to be anal about it, it would be made from COLT or FN parts and you would use the FDE rail. That said, I've always based my BLOCK II stuff on Noveske and Daniel Defense. Also they make this stuff called spray paint. If you paint your rifle, who's to tell the difference but technically no, black is not GTG. Given how hard it is to find FDE rails at a good price though, spray paint for the win. Interesting, because the black RIS is described as part of SOPMOD 2 program for SOCOM. I guess piss canning or cerakote is an option as well. I guess the VG's are GTG, either Tango or DD. http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Daniel-Defense-AR15-M4A1-RIS-II-FSP-Handguard-BLAC-p/dd%208030%20black.htm Just because it says that on BCM's site doesn't mean it's right. They are referring to the rail itself. Not the color. The FDE is the only color provided to SOCOM units as part of the block II program. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:03:04 PM EDT
[#50]
Well my upper is on the EE.
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