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Posted: 9/5/2016 8:44:27 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P400:
How long did it take from the time you sent it out to them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P400:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Got my lower back from Ares with the upgraded trigger. Huge difference! Same short take up, but way lighter. Very nice! How long did it take from the time you sent it out to them? Took a little while, maybe 3 weeks or more. I don't remember exactly. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:51:12 PM EDT
[#2]
I got 2 ASA uppers delivered the other day. One regular and one for .458 Socom. The 458 version (I know its just the ejection port enlarged) fits great on my SCR lower, but the other one has quite a bit of sloppy wobble. I sent ASA an email this AM - I haven't built many rifles but that was definitely the sloppiest match I've seen. Weird that one fits great, though. How common is that with rando upper and lower matches?
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Posted: 9/16/2016 1:16:41 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andromax:
I got 2 ASA uppers delivered the other day. One regular and one for .458 Socom. The 458 version (I know its just the ejection port enlarged) fits great on my SCR lower, but the other one has quite a bit of sloppy wobble. I sent ASA an email this AM - I haven't built many rifles but that was definitely the sloppiest match I've seen. Weird that one fits great, though. How common is that with rando upper and lower matches? Common. Being sloppy beats not going together, so most manufacturers err on the "will fit anything" side of tolerances. You can take the slop out with an O-ring on the front lug or an expanding takedown pin like the one from Demon Tactical. Ultimately if you're not happy with the ASA I would send it in for a swap, they're not some cheap-o forged upper. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 5:33:37 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andromax:
I got 2 ASA uppers delivered the other day. One regular and one for .458 Socom. The 458 version (I know its just the ejection port enlarged) fits great on my SCR lower, but the other one has quite a bit of sloppy wobble. I sent ASA an email this AM - I haven't built many rifles but that was definitely the sloppiest match I've seen. Weird that one fits great, though. How common is that with rando upper and lower matches? Mine is the opposite. Damn near take a mallet to get the pins in/out, lol |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2016 7:18:39 PM EDT
[#5]
OK... I kinda want one of these for a hunting rifle...
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IN, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2016 12:18:17 PM EDT
[#6]
I managed to find complete rifles at Gander Mountain for 750. I think they still have some in stock.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2016 3:16:58 PM EDT
[#7]
Are there any pictures of 5 shot groups with these? I'm really interested in what they are capable of.
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Posted: 10/6/2016 3:19:26 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arzombie:
Are there any pictures of 5 shot groups with these? I'm really interested in what they are capable of. Well the lower has almost zero to do with group sizes other than the shooter's familiarity with the trigger.... |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2016 4:10:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: arzombie]
[#9]
some of you guys just live for semantics don't you? let me edit my previous question:
Does anyone have any pictures of any 5 shot groups shot using the ARES SCR lower? I'm interested in the potential familiarity someone can have with the trigger and it's effects on shooting groups as it pertains to having a precision based upper and match ammunition. |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 4:18:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arzombie:
some of you guys just live for semantics don't you? let me edit my previous question: Does anyone have any pictures of any 5 shot groups shot using the ARES SCR lower? I'm interested in the potential familiarity someone can have with the trigger and it's effects on shooting groups as it pertains to having a precision based upper and match ammunition. No semantics about it, the lower half of an AR has almost nothing to do with accuracy, that depends mostly on the barrel itself.... The factory complete SCR seems to be a sub 1.5MOA gun with good ammo from all the reviews I've seen. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2016 4:27:20 PM EDT
[#11]
So what you're saying is you don't have any pictures of 5 shot groups shot using an ARES SCR lower.
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Posted: 10/6/2016 4:35:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arzombie:
So what you're saying is you don't have any pictures of 5 shot groups shot using an ARES SCR lower. Here you go, since your googler's broken... http://huntinnshootin.blogspot.com/2015/01/50-state-legal-ar-15.html Factory SCR May be completely different based on which of the million variants of uppers you happen to put on the SCR lower... |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2016 4:52:06 PM EDT
[#13]
Nice, thanks. I like how you pointed out the point was familiarity with the trigger and then posted a link to an article (well over a year old) with the original Gen. 1, 10 pound trigger.
So what you're saying is.... |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 4:58:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arzombie:
Nice, thanks. I like how you pointed out the point was familiarity with the trigger and then posted a link to an article (well over a year old) with the original Gen. 1, 10 pound trigger. So what you're saying is.... That the lower has almost nothing to do with accuracy if the shooter isn't a complete noob... Match triggers are nice, but crappy triggers can be overcome with experience. Look at Marine marksmanship qualifications... |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2016 5:09:23 PM EDT
[#15]
NO! My kryptonite, being called a noob! What ever shall I do?
So no pictures then? |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 7:12:06 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arzombie:
NO! My kryptonite, being called a noob! What ever shall I do? So no pictures then? I don't have any pictures either. I would guess that an SCR lower with the Gen II trigger (closer to 5 lbs than 10 lbs), a JP yellow hammer spring installed and a precision upper would be capable of shooting better than most of us. In other words, it would probably shoot about the same as the same precision upper on an AR lower with a decent "Mil-Spec" trigger, but a little bit worse than one with a $200+ precision trigger. Even on the AR, the barrel, ammo and shooter have more to do with the performance. |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 7:34:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arzombie:
NO! My kryptonite, being called a noob! What ever shall I do? So no pictures then? I didn't call you a noob, I said if you aren't a noob, it won't really matter what lower your upper is on. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? The barrel and ammo is where 95% of your accuracy comes from. |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 11:07:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MRW]
[#18]
I don't see how relevant the SCR lower is to shooting groups provided the trigger isn't absolute garbage. The barrel and ammunition will be the primary factors in accuracy, and those are not SCR-specific. An SCR with a junk barrel and Tula ammo is not going to perform very well.
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Posted: 10/7/2016 2:07:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HLS30]
[#19]
New RDS came in, almost finished. Just need to stop being lazy and buy a troy ambi mag release.
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USA
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Posted: 10/21/2016 4:59:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SCRowner]
[#20]
    After owning one of the first Ares SCRs for ac couple of years and sending about 5k rounds down range I decided to buy a second lower, and build one myself with what I had learned from experience on ergonometric. the bottom rifle on the pics is my older SCR and the upper pic is the newer one. . Bottom: Ares built Sporter 7/2014. All no magnification optics Additions: Ares Bolt hold open ; Noveske QD flush sling mount; ALG 13” V2 ERG Handguard ($155 /$120 discounted); Troy left hand Mag release (inverted by driving out pin); Magpul AR15/M16 MBUS PRO BUS SET ($160/$125 discounted); Burris Fastfire 3 (came with my MTAC) Notes: Magpul are not set as co-witness. Instead, when raised, their sight picture is above and unobstructed by fastfire3, and don’t obstruct FF3 when down. They are very low folded. Fastfire3 is perfect height for shouldering and excellent cheek weld with sporter stock. Magpuls maybe 3/8” above optimum but still very good, they are BUIS after all. This rifle is very light and well balanced. For me I can maintain firing hand grip in proper position when manipulating controls. (continued next post for full build from MC upper) |
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USA
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Posted: 10/21/2016 5:09:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SCRowner]
[#21]
(continued)
Top: Ares Monte Carlo 7/2016 lower. Self-built. 1x-4x MTAC
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Posted: 10/21/2016 5:32:19 PM EDT
[#22]
Anyone know of anyplace that has the CZ sights in stock? I can't find them anywhere.
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Posted: 10/21/2016 8:06:14 PM EDT
[#23]
I finally installed a Noveske Flush QD Sling Mount
 Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr Untitled by Doug Hansen, on FlickrIt was very straightforward and it works great! |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 1:21:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2016 4:54:33 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coldblue:
My latest 20" SCR with camo furniture... <a href="http://s258.photobucket.com/user/ColdBlue_2008/media/camo%20best.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/camo%20best.jpg</a> What barrel is that? It appears that they did a straight flute on the front two inches, in contrast to the dimple fluting on the rest of the barrel, giving it a (faux) muzzle brake look. Nice job fitting the wood to the forearm. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 11:40:17 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarpNY:
What barrel is that? It appears that they did a straight flute on the front two inches, in contrast to the dimple fluting on the rest of the barrel, giving it a (faux) muzzle brake look. Nice job fitting the wood to the forearm. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarpNY:
Originally Posted By coldblue: My latest 20" SCR with camo furniture...
<a href="http://s258.photobucket.com/user/ColdBlue_2008/media/camo%20best.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/camo%20best.jpg</a> What barrel is that? It appears that they did a straight flute on the front two inches, in contrast to the dimple fluting on the rest of the barrel, giving it a (faux) muzzle brake look. Nice job fitting the wood to the forearm. Yes, those wooden rail covers give me ideas. Plastic ideas... 
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Posted: 10/24/2016 8:09:04 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarpNY:
What barrel is that? It appears that they did a straight flute on the front two inches, in contrast to the dimple fluting on the rest of the barrel, giving it a (faux) muzzle brake look. Nice job fitting the wood to the forearm. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarpNY:
Originally Posted By coldblue:
My latest 20" SCR with camo furniture... <a href="http://s258.photobucket.com/user/ColdBlue_2008/media/camo%20best.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/camo%20best.jpg</a> What barrel is that? It appears that they did a straight flute on the front two inches, in contrast to the dimple fluting on the rest of the barrel, giving it a (faux) muzzle brake look. Nice job fitting the wood to the forearm. Thanks! Got very lucky with the Rem1100 forend I sliced up on my table saw for the forend URX panels, as they come together nicely at the 6 o'clock for a really nice grip.. The barrel was custom machined by Marvin Pitts of Nefarious Arms. It started life as a Krieger 1:7 heavy match barrel. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 3:24:04 PM EDT
[#28]
Originally Posted By coldblue:
The barrel was custom machined by Marvin Pitts of Nefarious Arms. It started life as a Krieger 1:7 heavy match barrel. Fantastic job by Marvin. Having seen what that Krieger barrel goes for without the mods, fair to say that it was a pretty hefty investment? |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 7:48:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheTallest]
[#29]
I'm going to finally order one of these in a few weeks. Which version though? Monte Carlo, standard or sport short?
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Posted: 10/25/2016 8:20:31 PM EDT
[#30]
IMO the Monte Carlo stock is the best suited for optics use if you like a low cheek weld.
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Posted: 10/25/2016 8:40:19 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
IMO the Monte Carlo stock is the best suited for optics use if you like a low cheek weld. Thanks, I was going to order that one originally but wanted to be sure. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 10/26/2016 1:51:24 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coldblue:
My latest 20" SCR with camo furniture... <a href="http://s258.photobucket.com/user/ColdBlue_2008/media/camo%20best.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/camo%20best.jpg</a> What stock set is that? and do you happen to know how it compares to the Ares Monta Carlo stock? |
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Posted: 10/26/2016 5:06:36 PM EDT
[#33]
They seem sold out everywhere, want to get my hands on another. You guys have any leads?
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Posted: 10/26/2016 5:47:29 PM EDT
[#34]
Try searching under FightLite, Ares changed their name a few months back. Might have to just start checking Gunbroker, haven't heard of any more being produced since they did the name change
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USA
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Posted: 10/26/2016 7:19:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest: I'm going to finally order one of these in a few weeks. Which version though? Monte Carlo, standard or sport short? If you like I have my sporter and monte carlo side by side pictured here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/672281_ARES_SCR_Pics.html&page=37#i7302567 I bought the sporter built from Ares over two years ago. Red dot as you can see should be very low. I much prefer the monte carlo, especially with any scope. I bought a MC lower and built it late this summer with a side charging upper. Both have ALG rails v2 rails, which I love and which give you a lot of benefit especially on a SCR where keeping weight low and balance far back is very helpful due to lack of grip below action. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/26/2016 7:19:55 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gadgetguy1288: IMO the Monte Carlo stock is the best suited for optics use if you like a low cheek weld. Excellent advice. My sporter and MC are here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/672281_ARES_SCR_Pics.html&page=37#i7302567
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Posted: 10/26/2016 7:27:36 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCRowner:
If you like I have my sporter and monte carlo side by side pictured here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/672281_ARES_SCR_Pics.html&page=37#i7302567 I bought the sporter built from Ares over two years ago. Red dot as you can see should be very low. I much prefer the monte carlo, especially with any scope. I bought a MC lower and built it late this summer with a side charging upper. Both have ALG rails v2 rails, which I love and which give you a lot of benefit especially on a SCR where keeping weight low and balance far back is very helpful due to lack of grip below action. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCRowner:
Originally Posted By TheTallest:
I'm going to finally order one of these in a few weeks. Which version though? Monte Carlo, standard or sport short? https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/672281_ARES_SCR_Pics.html&page=37#i7302567 I bought the sporter built from Ares over two years ago. Red dot as you can see should be very low. I much prefer the monte carlo, especially with any scope. I bought a MC lower and built it late this summer with a side charging upper. Both have ALG rails v2 rails, which I love and which give you a lot of benefit especially on a SCR where keeping weight low and balance far back is very helpful due to lack of grip below action. Thanks. So, the Monte Carlo stock is better suited for scopes and the Sporter is better for red dots? None of my current ARs have scopes so this might be a good candidate for one. |
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Posted: 10/26/2016 8:05:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest: Thanks. So, the Monte Carlo stock is better suited for scopes and the Sporter is better for red dots? None of my current ARs have scopes so this might be a good candidate for one. I would get the MC regardless. It gives you more options and a nicer shouldering in my opinion even for red dot. If you do go with 100% battery dependent like red dot, I found what I did, which is skip cowitness and put sight pic of iron sights above red dot with magpul pro, like my fastifre set up is nice in which case you are going to want a rail. or you can go cowitness with troy micro but I found troy micro not that hardy. I als found the ALG 2 which just has that section out front the lightest and most well balanced. I can't emphasize enough trying to keep balance back if you want to do mag changes or operate charger while keeping your right hand on in firing positon grip. same goes for light barrel on this IMHO |
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USA
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Posted: 10/26/2016 8:06:26 PM EDT
[#39]
I also suggest considering buying lower alone if you can. it will come with all the non AR parts yo uneed, stock, lower and ares bolt carrier. This way you can do side charger which is also very good given where your firing hand is, and especially compelling if you have a scope which is going to go back and over the rear charger making operation a bit crowded. On the other hand it is not impossible to use rear charger if you have a scope, and you may wish to keep the operation as similar to your AR's as possible. http://nyfirearms.com/forums/rifles/110718-ares-scr-side-charging-upper.html |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:55:33 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DH2:
What stock set is that? and do you happen to know how it compares to the Ares Monta Carlo stock? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DH2:
Originally Posted By coldblue:
My latest 20" SCR with camo furniture... <a href="http://s258.photobucket.com/user/ColdBlue_2008/media/camo%20best.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/camo%20best.jpg</a> What stock set is that? and do you happen to know how it compares to the Ares Monta Carlo stock? My new camo MC is from Boyd's and is their Remington 1100 green camo model. The forend is also from their and intended for the 1100, as a source of the side panels needed for this URX-2 application. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:01:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheTallest]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plinker8:
They seem sold out everywhere, want to get my hands on another. You guys have any leads? I thought I had seen them on Midwest but when I checked last night they were sold out. So I guess I won't be ordering one soon because everywhere I looked last night they were sold out. They've been sold out for a long time too. EDIT If you look on Fightlight's website they don't even list the SCR anymore. I'm guessing that's it, there won't be any more. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 12:15:38 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo:
pros: Very quick and easy handling. Takes all AR magazines Takes all AR uppers Cons: Can not access magazine release with shooting hand Does not have bolt release/lock installed from factory AR height sights are a no-go. Overall it's a great, fun gun on it's own. If you are in a ban state it's an awesome, maybe even the best, option. It's an M1 carbine made out of AR parts. It's trigger isn't the best either. I've fired some that weren't 'not bad' and a few that were horrendous. They don't take standard AR triggers. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 5:27:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest:
I thought I had seen them on Midwest but when I checked last night they were sold out. So I guess I won't be ordering one soon because everywhere I looked last night they were sold out. They've been sold out for a long time too. EDIT If you look on Fightlight's website they don't even list the SCR anymore. I'm guessing that's it, there won't be any more. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest:
Originally Posted By plinker8:
They seem sold out everywhere, want to get my hands on another. You guys have any leads? I thought I had seen them on Midwest but when I checked last night they were sold out. So I guess I won't be ordering one soon because everywhere I looked last night they were sold out. They've been sold out for a long time too. EDIT If you look on Fightlight's website they don't even list the SCR anymore. I'm guessing that's it, there won't be any more. If thats true it fucking blows. It was the perfect rifle for us behind enemy lines. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 5:50:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheTallest]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plinker8:
If thats true it fucking blows. It was the perfect rifle for us behind enemy lines. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plinker8:
Originally Posted By TheTallest:
Originally Posted By plinker8:
They seem sold out everywhere, want to get my hands on another. You guys have any leads? I thought I had seen them on Midwest but when I checked last night they were sold out. So I guess I won't be ordering one soon because everywhere I looked last night they were sold out. They've been sold out for a long time too. EDIT If you look on Fightlight's website they don't even list the SCR anymore. I'm guessing that's it, there won't be any more. If thats true it fucking blows. It was the perfect rifle for us behind enemy lines. Yup. I should've bought one a year or so ago when I said I was going to. Figures now that I'm ready they aren't available anymore. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:24:26 PM EDT
[#45]
Well hopefully someone in the industry will pop in saying that's not true. Otherwise this thread just got depressing.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:49:43 PM EDT
[#46]
They have said several times that they are going to produce them, but they haven't added them to their new website yet.
Now, whether that's true or not, I don't know. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:51:44 PM EDT
[#47]
I emailed them. We'll see what they say.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:56:18 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest:
I emailed them. We'll see what they say. Keep us posted |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 9:41:00 PM EDT
[#49]
Each time I peek in this thread, I get the urge to replace my Mini with an SCR.
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Posted: 10/28/2016 7:58:13 AM EDT
[#50]
Yeah I wanted to pick up another lower a few months ago. Keep checking GB even.. complete rifles occasionally at steep mark ups. Bummer.
I haven't heard anything back from FightLite in any emails I've sent them, about the SCR or their nifty 22/45 replacement barrels/receivers |
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