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Im new to the LMT game is the quad war just cut down full length quad upper?
I noticed that D. Wilson is offering an adjustable gas block conversion. I was wondering if anyone has done this conversion on a MWS barrel and how they like it? Im thinking about sending my MWS barrel in for the conversion. |
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Yes, you hit the nail on the head. “Quadwar” is a made up funny word for a full length chop to more neatly accommodate a 12.5 barrel than a CQB upper.
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Any news from Shot Show 2023 regarding LMT?
So far I have not found anything new on the interwebs. |
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they talked about their suppressors the ION 30.
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It'd be great if there was any real info on the LMT 9mm
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yes! lol. they are way too proud about them. im still regretting my choice of first suppressor i still haven't gotten yet the sandman k, instead of the surefire, but theirs just look so heavy.
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Originally Posted By jtdam24: I agree with this. I have a LMT CWS I set up with a 5.5" CMMG radial delay barrel and the AAC TiRant fits in the upper but would prefer a factory setup. https://i.imgur.com/IO7imw1.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Hox: This is actually a stellar idea. Is that a standard AR lower with endomag internals in the magazine? I'd love to be able to do what you did with the upper, but run a lower that takes CZ scorpion mags. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hox: Originally Posted By jtdam24: I agree with this. I have a LMT CWS I set up with a 5.5" CMMG radial delay barrel and the AAC TiRant fits in the upper but would prefer a factory setup. https://i.imgur.com/IO7imw1.jpg Yes sir that's correct, standard lower with endomags. It runs very well and is surprisingly very quiet. |
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Originally Posted By jtdam24: Yes sir that's correct, standard lower with endomags. It runs very well and is surprisingly very quiet. https://i.imgur.com/o5x6r7h.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By emtothedee: Oh and can’t decide if the plx c is better for me than a gen ii 1-6. Going to try em both this weekend https://i.vgy.me/EVuWMv.jpg View Quote Give us some feedback when you are available to, I'm shopping for a LPVO and I can't decide between the razor and plxc. I've pretty much decided against the NX8, which is what I really wanted originally, but the reviews on that are all over the place. I had a TR24 but didn't care for it during low light situations with a WML. My priority would be 0-100 yards and usage with a WML. I'm not looking for something that optimizes performance from the pench/prone. |
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Originally Posted By MKEman: Give us some feedback when you are available to, I'm shopping for a LPVO and I can't decide between the razor and plxc. I've pretty much decided against the NX8, which is what I really wanted originally, but the reviews on that are all over the place. I had a TR24 but didn't care for it during low light situations with a WML. My priority would be 0-100 yards and usage with a WML. I'm not looking for something that optimizes performance from the pench/prone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MKEman: Originally Posted By emtothedee: Oh and can’t decide if the plx c is better for me than a gen ii 1-6. Going to try em both this weekend https://i.vgy.me/EVuWMv.jpg Give us some feedback when you are available to, I'm shopping for a LPVO and I can't decide between the razor and plxc. I've pretty much decided against the NX8, which is what I really wanted originally, but the reviews on that are all over the place. I had a TR24 but didn't care for it during low light situations with a WML. My priority would be 0-100 yards and usage with a WML. I'm not looking for something that optimizes performance from the pench/prone. You’ll want the second focal plane 1-6 then for sure |
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I’m debating going back to using my 16” ss barrel. These utilize a 1:7.5 twist rate. Does anyone know what advantage this twist rate is going to give me over my other barrels at distance? My 14.5 hodge and triarc converted barrels both have similar accuracy and velocity so it doesn’t feel like it makes sense to run the ss barrel since it is much heavier. However maybe the 1:7.5 twist will stabilize 77gr better at distance and group better around 5-600 yards? Anyone knowledgeable on this subject?
EDIT: Just got off the phone with Joe from LMT. Learned A LOT. The 1:7.5 twist was geared towards bridging the gap between. Heavier and lighter weighted bullets. Also the stainless barrels are nitrited, which means you can beat the crap out of them. He said guys were putting 12k rounds a year on them and still getting 1-1.25 moa groups out of them. The ones with the 7.5 twist are also made from Rock blanks where as the newer 1:7 stainless barrels are not. I asked about the risks of getting the barrel reprofiled, and he said it shouldn’t affect accuracy at all since the cryogenic treatment process is done from the beginning before the barrel is cut. In addition, the “halo” cut that can be done to mlr/mlc chassis due to tolerance stacking are now standard features in newly made uppers. |
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Ended up cleaning and doing some housekeeping on my gun safes yesterday. Sometimes I even forget what I have. I should of taken a group picture but failed to do so with the time constraints I was under.
Anyhow I realized I have 13 MRP uppers in various configurations including my newest which is another SPECWAR. Now I have one in black and one with FDE components (rail covers, buis, optic, suppressor, etc.). This is definitely a sickness! I'm thinking of going with a NF NX8 in either black or FDE for one of the SPECWAR's but I'm going back and forth on the color of the optic. The black SPECWAR currently wears a MRO with a green dot and the FDE SPECWAR is sporting a Trijicon TA31ECOS RMR in FDE. One is wearing a Rugged Surge and the other a Surefire SOCOM 762 Mini. Love the MRP ecosystem. |
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Originally Posted By emtothedee: I’m debating going back to using my 16” ss barrel. These utilize a 1:7.5 twist rate. Does anyone know what advantage this twist rate is going to give me over my other barrels at distance? My 14.5 hodge and triarc converted barrels both have similar accuracy and velocity so it doesn’t feel like it makes sense to run the ss barrel since it is much heavier. However maybe the 1:7.5 twist will stabilize 77gr better at distance and group better around 5-600 yards? Anyone knowledgeable on this subject? EDIT: Just got off the phone with Joe from LMT. Learned A LOT. The 1:7.5 twist was geared towards bridging the gap between. Heavier and lighter weighted bullets. Also the stainless barrels are nitrited, which means you can beat the crap out of them. He said guys were putting 12k rounds a year on them and still getting 1-1.25 moa groups out of them. The ones with the 7.5 twist are also made from Rock blanks where as the newer 1:7 stainless barrels are not. I asked about the risks of getting the barrel reprofiled, and he said it shouldn’t affect accuracy at all since the cryogenic treatment process is done from the beginning before the barrel is cut. In addition, the “halo” cut that can be done to mlr/mlc chassis due to tolerance stacking are now standard features in newly made uppers. View Quote Good info, thanks for sharing. What is the halo cut? |
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My fellow MRPians I just listed a 16” ss barrel. Thought I’d give y’all a heads up first
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Originally Posted By jtdam24: More goodies on the way for this one. Going to try the Railscales RSB/P. I love the normal RSB but you can't find them anywhere. It'll be better when the Surefire SFMB gets here so I can throw the SOCOM on it as well. https://i.imgur.com/Edygqbw.jpg View Quote So many acronyms |
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Originally Posted By jtdam24: More goodies on the way for this one. Going to try the Railscales RSB/P. I love the normal RSB but you can't find them anywhere. It'll be better when the Surefire SFMB gets here so I can throw the SOCOM on it as well. https://i.imgur.com/Edygqbw.jpg View Quote Good lord... That thing looks like a brick... |
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Mike_Golf says: "You're not an ethical hunter and likely an asshole to boot."
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View Quote Put the atacr on this for fucks sake |
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Originally Posted By jtdam24: Yes sir that's correct, standard lower with endomags. It runs very well and is surprisingly very quiet. https://i.imgur.com/o5x6r7h.jpg View Quote @jtdam24 Did you have the barrel modified to do that? D.Wilson? Have a similar set up on a traditional AR upper, but it would be really cool to convert for the CSW |
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Originally Posted By oldbrowndog: @jtdam24 Did you have the barrel modified to do that? D.Wilson? Have a similar set up on a traditional AR upper, but it would be really cool to convert for the CSW View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By oldbrowndog: Originally Posted By jtdam24: Yes sir that's correct, standard lower with endomags. It runs very well and is surprisingly very quiet. https://i.imgur.com/o5x6r7h.jpg @jtdam24 Did you have the barrel modified to do that? D.Wilson? Have a similar set up on a traditional AR upper, but it would be really cool to convert for the CSW Hey, yes D Wilson did the conversion and he did an awesome job! |
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Any 12.5” Specwar owners in here that use a BRT gas tube? Interested in hearing feedback
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Disregard
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If my wife had another baby and I was in the delivery room, I'd probably look at it and yell "welcome back bitch" and then have the hospital page Norcal. -scuba_steve
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Originally Posted By emtothedee: New home defense setup. Tempted to get a 300blk barrel for it https://i.vgy.me/hkQVCK.jpg View Quote I'd like to have one of those SLK8 uppers. |
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Originally Posted By MonolithicRP: I'd like to have one of those SLK8 uppers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MonolithicRP: Originally Posted By emtothedee: New home defense setup. Tempted to get a 300blk barrel for it https://i.vgy.me/hkQVCK.jpg I'd like to have one of those SLK8 uppers. They’re pretty awesome no doubt |
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Brethren with LMT H. I know you are all biased by the superiority of the LMT. I know the monolithic rail advantage is forward mounting optics and holding a laser zero, and quick barrel changes. I’m a thermal guy myself (soon). Is the LMT that much more worth it than doing say an aero M5 build? We’re talking going from 1k to 3-4K with different barrels for the LMT 13.5 LW 7.62 and a 20 steel 7.62. I like the idea of the versatility. What say yee?
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Originally Posted By MRTEX: Brethren with LMT H. I know you are all biased by the superiority of the LMT. I know the monolithic rail advantage is forward mounting optics and holding a laser zero, and quick barrel changes. I’m a thermal guy myself (soon). Is the LMT that much more worth it than doing say an aero M5 build? We’re talking going from 1k to 3-4K with different barrels for the LMT 13.5 LW 7.62 and a 20 steel 7.62. I like the idea of the versatility. What say yee? View Quote No. Quick change barrels are a gimmick. There's utility behind the feature but it requires a zero confirmation each time. If the logistics requirements don't bother you then the utility is worth it. With most thermal weapon sights, they sit on the top rail of the receiver. If you're going to be using a clip on setup then perhaps the MRP platform can help you as its exceptionally rigid. LMT makes a nice gun but its not magic. There are a few instances where they excel but they're not really quantifiably better than their competitors. |
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Mike_Golf says: "You're not an ethical hunter and likely an asshole to boot."
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Originally Posted By Magsz18: No. Quick change barrels are a gimmick. There's utility behind the feature but it requires a zero confirmation each time. If the logistics requirements don't bother you then the utility is worth it. With most thermal weapon sights, they sit on the top rail of the receiver. If you're going to be using a clip on setup then perhaps the MRP platform can help you as its exceptionally rigid. LMT makes a nice gun but its not magic. There are a few instances where they excel but they're not really quantifiably better than their competitors. View Quote Until you’re on a round count of 5-10k+. Lucas Botkin did somewhat of a torture test of his aero 308 and it failed miserably. Accuracy, reliability, and robustness, I believe, can be quantifiable. LMT would be toward the top end of those. |
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Originally Posted By emtothedee: Until you’re on a round count of 5-10k+. Lucas Botkin did somewhat of a torture test of his aero 308 and it failed miserably. Accuracy, reliability, and robustness, I believe, can be quantifiable. LMT would be toward the top end of those. View Quote The Aero gun is almost a third of the price of the LMT. Just rebarrel the Aero. My specific post was not specifically addressing the Aero versus LMT question. I was merely opining on the LMT as a standalone offering. |
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Mike_Golf says: "You're not an ethical hunter and likely an asshole to boot."
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Originally Posted By Magsz18: The Aero gun is almost a third of the price of the LMT. Just rebarrel the Aero. My specific post was not specifically addressing the Aero versus LMT question. I was merely opining on the LMT as a standalone offering. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Magsz18: Originally Posted By emtothedee: Until you’re on a round count of 5-10k+. Lucas Botkin did somewhat of a torture test of his aero 308 and it failed miserably. Accuracy, reliability, and robustness, I believe, can be quantifiable. LMT would be toward the top end of those. The Aero gun is almost a third of the price of the LMT. Just rebarrel the Aero. My specific post was not specifically addressing the Aero versus LMT question. I was merely opining on the LMT as a standalone offering. Right on. Specifically talking about the aero though, it wasn’t shooting the barrel out. It was catastrophic failure to the bolt carrier and firing pin as well as hand guard screws coming loose. I think you get what you pay for and you’d be hard pressed to find something that does all the things as well as an lmt mws does at a fraction of the cost. You’ll have a big trade off somewhere |
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Mike_Golf says: "You're not an ethical hunter and likely an asshole to boot."
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Originally Posted By Magsz18: I can go buy an MLC carbine right now IF I wanted one. A year ago...absolutely not. Cyclical. It will never be an LMT buffet but it will get better. View Quote Haha, just a little bit of humor. It's definitely much better now vs even two months ago. I was just scrolling through old parts of this thread and though that was funny. I told myself the same thing then, and I'm still telling myself that now. |
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Does anyone know what the weight of a complete (bcg ch barrel) factory 12.5” specwar upper is?
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