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Posted: 1/7/2008 2:55:27 PM EDT
We have some black powder enthusiast among are ranks. We were basically trying to replicate a 20" Gov't profile.
To fire, the powder charge and bullet are loaded via a ramrod. Using a standard magazine with a single shot follower, an unloaded 5.56 case is loaded into the mag, inserted in magazine well and loaded just like a standard rifle. Once the rifle is fired, the empty brass is ejected manually and then reloaded. ![]() Here is a quick demo vid... Black powder demo vid We tested it with 6 pellets and 2 bullets(and a very very long string) and it held together just fine. Now it is off to MP test. |
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so you load the powder and bullet like a normal blackpowder rifle and use a primed 5.56 case to prime the charge? what cal? how much? i am kinda intrested
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It is a modified .223 case that uses a 209 primer. Currently .50 cal. Should have pricing and other specs tomorrow.
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no kidding. Very Very interesting answer to the ammo crunch! |
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Tell us more. Price, availability, options????
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Couldn't you pre-prime a magfull of the special cases, load a magazine, and have semi-auto black powder goodness? hmmm.... |
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Can you imagine the face of an unsuspecting
game warden the first time he runs across these.. ![]() |
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dude a flintlock ar15 would own i would buy one easy, for what it is worth i am going to put a rail system light bipod and paq4 on mine for the win
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I would like to see a .50 flintlock AR, and instead of an actual magazine, hollow out an AR magazine to hold the patches, balls, etc.
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I just saw something like this on the Tromix website yesterday.
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I could see myself hunting with that. Imgine the look on the GW's face when they see that thing. LOL
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I have a TC Pro Hunter in 50cal. I'm very interested in price.
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Whoa, never saw this one coming.
Yeah, this is really gonna get Zumbo twisted around the axle! ![]() |
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that is awesome!
I never would have imagined something like that. |
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Finally a use for my MOLLE powder horn kit!
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hey if you don't land the shot at least you'll have time to escape in the smoke cloud
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I can't wait to see a Fudd shit himself when you go out during black powder season with one of those.
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![]() That would be awesome. |
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IIRC, they sold the one they had, and have no desire to make anymore. As far as this one, I'm not really keen on the loaded case for the primer. |
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Well, it's nice in that it's self capping, but it wouldn't be semi auto as you'd still need load the powder and bullet via the muzzle. |
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Maybe we won't have to worry about a smoke cloud. We have, under development, the uber cool "smoke brake". Similar to a flash hider or muzzle brake, it eliminates all smoke. ![]() |
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This isn't a loaded case, it is a 209 primer in a piece of .223 brass. There is no way a live round or a blank will load into the "chamber". Jeff |
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Here is a quick demo vid...
Black powder demo vid We tested it with 6 pellets and 2 bullets(and a very very long string) and it held together just fine. Now it is off to MP test. |
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You guys make some great products. But I really don't se a point to this. Would the R and D cost would not make it worth wild to produce? It seems like a nice novelty but nothing else. But, I think you guys build a great AR!
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LAWL! I want to be the first one at my range to pop off one of these.. Watch all the old bastards who hate us "Black Riflers" Shit themselves.. CXS |
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Is that a standard lower with a specialty upper? My quest is to have a few lowers in different configurations and multiple uppers that can be swapped around depending on the situation. Total "modular" rifle system. This would be a great (and novel) addition.
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One issue that I can see arising is that of a fully featured AR lower not considered a firearm...
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As an NRA Black Powder insturctor, I get dibs on the beta test unit. I'll let my students shoot it and introduce them to the true versatility of the AR system.
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That is cool. One of those with a flat top upper would be really nice. How do you clean the "nipple" and is it replaceable?
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Understood my error the minute I hit submit ![]() All the same, I can see this thing drawing quite a crowd at blackpowder events. Hell, it'd be a riot in IPSC ![]() |
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Holy crap, just wait till word of this gets to Carol McCarthy. This will go right to the top of the list.
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I'd almost buy it for that reason. But the one shoot I do doesn't allow inlines, or aperature sights. |
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that's a shame. Just watched the video, seems easy enough. CMMG, are these in production yet? |
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I will take one, or maybe two, what the hell, give me three. a new strain of BRD
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Hence my comment. It would be a great way to lure young shooters into blackpowder. |
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