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Link Posted: 5/11/2023 4:08:28 PM EDT
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@stinkypol

I am considering stocks, and am curious... you had an M&A Parts carbine stock, but also ordered the H&R version CAR stock from PSA, but then posted the picture of your build with a magpul SL stock, so which do you prefer and why? Why not just keep the M&A stock? What is the difference between it and the H&R version? And why remove both and install the Magpul instead? Thank you
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 4:12:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/11/2023 4:19:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ObsoleteMan:
@stinkypol

I am considering stocks, and am curious... you had an M&A Parts carbine stock, but also ordered the H&R version CAR stock from PSA, but then posted the picture of your build with a magpul SL stock, so which do you prefer and why? Why not just keep the M&A stock? What is the difference between it and the H&R version? And why remove both and install the Magpul instead? Thank you
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@ObsoleteMan

I’m kinda confused, I don’t have a Magpul SL stock.
I put the H&R stock on it, my 733 clone has the M&A stock.  
I did have a Magpul brace on my 733 lower at one time, not a SL stock.
The H&R stock is a bit thicker as far as material thickness compared to the M&A stock.
I’m not picky as far as stocks, I lean towards the M&A because I think it is closer to the Colt N1’s.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 4:21:00 PM EDT
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I need to get a black A1 grip, among other things.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 4:23:50 PM EDT
[#5]
Do it!
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 4:52:37 PM EDT
[#6]
@stinkypol:
Thank you for your reply!

Ahhh, nevermind, I figured it out...  you posted etslick's photo of his SL equipped version on pg 3, thats where I got confused (because it was highlighted as a yellow post)

It looks like the H&R is very similar to the M&A, I will probably just go that route if they are decent enough.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 5:52:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ObsoleteMan:
@stinkypol:
Thank you for your reply!

Ahhh, nevermind, I figured it out...  you posted etslick's photo of his SL equipped version on pg 3, thats where I got confused (because it was highlighted as a yellow post)

It looks like the H&R is very similar to the M&A, I will probably just go that route if they are decent enough.
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I’ve had a few M&A’s, been happy with them.
For $20 and shipping the H&R from PSA, is a good deal too.  I’m happy with it.
Link Posted: 5/11/2023 5:53:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ObsoleteMan:
@stinkypol:
Thank you for your reply!

Ahhh, nevermind, I figured it out...  you posted etslick's photo of his SL equipped version on pg 3, thats where I got confused (because it was highlighted as a yellow post)

It looks like the H&R is very similar to the M&A, I will probably just go that route if they are decent enough.
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I’ve had a few M&A’s, been happy with them.
For $20 and shipping the H&R from PSA, is a good deal too.  I’m happy with it.
Link Posted: 5/17/2023 7:31:27 AM EDT
[#9]
TIA. Eh, Danny?

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Neil and crew would have made it out of the Far East National Bank at 11:30 if they’d had Aimpoints. Prove me wrong
Link Posted: 5/17/2023 7:50:29 AM EDT
[#10]
She is beautiful





Jennifer….
Link Posted: 5/17/2023 5:52:04 PM EDT
[#11]
I bought this light for a clone but it doesn't look like the light in the movie despite the ad's reference.
https://www.bluemountainsupplyllc.com/surefire-660-weapon-light.html

What do I need to do to it to make it look like the one in the movie? #surefire_experts
Link Posted: 5/17/2023 5:52:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats] [#12]
#double_tap
Link Posted: 5/20/2023 5:44:18 PM EDT
[#13]
Weekend bump and update.

I splurged
Got this coming.

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I’m still gonna mod my airsoft MP5 sourced unit. I figured if I need to buy the A21 extension, M10 or M31 ring, and source the M16 mount, I can buy this and test fit the extension to make sure it fits the MP5 unit and the pressure switch I have.
Link Posted: 5/21/2023 1:01:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:
Weekend bump and update.

I splurged
Got this coming.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136710/IMG_4353_jpeg-2823285.JPG

I’m still gonna mod my airsoft MP5 sourced unit. I figured if I need to buy the A21 extension, M10 or M31 ring, and source the M16 mount, I can buy this and test fit the extension to make sure it fits the MP5 unit and the pressure switch I have.
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Link Posted: 5/22/2023 7:27:27 PM EDT
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This is costing my $$$$$

Fixin to pull the trigger on a 6520 upper and tear it apart.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 7:23:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
This is costing my $$$$$

Fixin to pull the trigger on a 6520 upper and tear it apart.
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Yep, just dumped another $143.

I found these, pressure pad, bulb, and reflector are different, but for $72 shipped each, I FO’d hard.

Here’s the site:

   https://shekkingears.com/products/660-replica

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Oh, they make these too, and you can do the 660 or a 6P clone light.

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Link Posted: 5/23/2023 5:14:58 PM EDT
[#17]
Ok, what mount for the Aimpoint? (not the piece that attaches to the carry handle.)


Link Posted: 5/23/2023 5:28:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
Ok, what mount for the Aimpoint? (not the piece that attaches to the carry handle.)


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I and a bunch of others have been using the 30mm Leupold weaver rings from Midwest Gun Works. They look the part of the 90s and 2000s weaver rings for the 30mm red dots.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 5:31:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
Ok, what mount for the Aimpoint? (not the piece that attaches to the carry handle.)


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If you mean the Blood Diamond movie gun it’s basically a double-wide Leupold Rifleman vertical split ring.

They packaged them with the old Aimpoint Comp M.

Link Posted: 5/23/2023 5:34:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subpar:

If you mean the Blood Diamond movie gun it’s basically a double-wide Leupold Rifleman vertical split ring.

They packaged them with the old Aimpoint Comp M.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/1D468882-9095-40D6-9724-90DD31586BD8-2412121.jpg
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One of the local dealers is blowing out a bunch of old rings and mounts, hundreds.
Gonna swing by and check out what they have.
Maybe I’ll get lucky and score some stuff.
Link Posted: 5/23/2023 5:43:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:


One of the local dealers is blowing out a bunch of old rings and mounts, hundreds.
Gonna swing by and check out what they have.
Maybe I’ll get lucky and score some stuff.
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If you see those grab them all.  They’re rare as hen’s teeth.

Nothing special about them, and there’s certainly better options.  I THINK they weren’t sold on their own, just packaged with the Comp Ms back in the day (mid-late 90s).  

Link Posted: 5/23/2023 8:14:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subpar:

If you see those grab them all.  They’re rare as hen’s teeth.

Nothing special about them, and there’s certainly better options.  I THINK they weren’t sold on their own, just packaged with the Comp Ms back in the day (mid-late 90s).  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/AFA6F372-7BFB-4DAC-80CB-1FB30D5B352E-2826685.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/2679F367-43E0-497A-B02E-B1538391BA93-2826686.jpg
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None, I was ready to stock up l.

Unfortunately, all I picked up for $20 were these Weaver 1” rings.  Only missing one screw out of all of them.

The tall ones are the M31 Surefire mounts, about $30 each on fleabay.

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The short ones on the left are just a tad shorter than the Surefire M10’s.
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 6:19:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Holy shit. I have a backorder for an ARMS #2 at Mounts Plus and might still pick it up for $105 if/when they come back in stock, but that's getting up there.
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When you posted this, I went and looked and the website clearly said OOS. Checked it again on Monday and showed in stock, so I ordered one. Just got an email that they are backordered. FWIW.
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 7:32:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
When you posted this, I went and looked and the website clearly said OOS. Checked it again on Monday and showed in stock, so I ordered one. Just got an email that they are backordered. FWIW.
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Holy shit. I have a backorder for an ARMS #2 at Mounts Plus and might still pick it up for $105 if/when they come back in stock, but that's getting up there.
When you posted this, I went and looked and the website clearly said OOS. Checked it again on Monday and showed in stock, so I ordered one. Just got an email that they are backordered. FWIW.


Thanks for the heads up, but I think I'm going to stick with the Maryland Gun Works weaver CH mounts. It's weaver and has a known history on the guns, and they didn't cost $105, and the optics on them are zeroed, haha.
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 10:30:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


I and a bunch of others have been using the 30mm Leupold weaver rings from Midwest Gun Works. They look the part of the 90s and 2000s weaver rings for the 30mm red dots.
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Can you link to what you're talking about here? I'm coming up blank.
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 12:01:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Undaunted:
Will you complete with ridiculous optic placement?
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Lol, same height as kac skyscraper mount.
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 2:34:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
Can you link to what you're talking about here? I'm coming up blank.
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


I and a bunch of others have been using the 30mm Leupold weaver rings from Midwest Gun Works. They look the part of the 90s and 2000s weaver rings for the 30mm red dots.
Can you link to what you're talking about here? I'm coming up blank.


Here you go Springfield 30mm Ring, Matte

OOS at the moment, but the seem to come back fairly regularly. Also, there are two rings in the package. Myself and half a dozen other guys have ordered two, since the description says it's a single ring, but there are two in the package.
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 2:59:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Primetime_1:
I remember when I bought a stripped colt C7 upper for like $75....these prices are depressing.
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Not as cheap as $75, but cheaper than Gunbroker or the EE. And available.

https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-receivers-parts/ar-15-c7-stripped-upper-receiver/
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 4:03:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Here you go Springfield 30mm Ring, Matte

OOS at the moment, but the seem to come back fairly regularly. Also, there are two rings in the package. Myself and half a dozen other guys have ordered two, since the description says it's a single ring, but there are two in the package.
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


I and a bunch of others have been using the 30mm Leupold weaver rings from Midwest Gun Works. They look the part of the 90s and 2000s weaver rings for the 30mm red dots.
Can you link to what you're talking about here? I'm coming up blank.


Here you go Springfield 30mm Ring, Matte

OOS at the moment, but the seem to come back fairly regularly. Also, there are two rings in the package. Myself and half a dozen other guys have ordered two, since the description says it's a single ring, but there are two in the package.
Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 9:43:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GhostFish] [#30]
I’ve been working on a BHD/BD clone. What light mount are you guys using?  I’m going to use a more modern light so it doesn’t have to be perfect. What that light is will depend on what fits.
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 11:35:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stinkypol] [#31]
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Originally Posted By GhostFish:
I’ve been working on a BHD/BD clone. What light mount are you guys using?  I’m going to use a more modern light so it doesn’t have to be perfect. What that light is will depend on what fits.
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@GhostFish

The original mount is the Surefire M14 clamp mount and a Surefire ring mount for the light, usually a M10.
The barrel clamp mount is a cast steel Picatinny base with a stamped steel clamp.
The M10 ring mounts were sourced from Weaver by Surefire.  They are just a 1” scope ring.

Here’s mine I just received today with a Surefire 660 light.
The stamped steel clamp needs to be shaved on both sides to fit through the site base on the barrel.  The Picatinny base needs to be relieved also to fit between the rings of the site base on the barrel.

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I replaced the 4 attachment bolts with new ones.  It only came with one complete bolt and a broken one.
Took it all apart, cleaned it up l, and reassembled it.

The M14 mounts are hard to find and expensive when found.  There is a complete new in the package one on fleabay for $185 and that doesn’t include the ring mount.

ETA:

You can get a cheap Chinesium barrel clamp mount, similar, but aluminum from Amazon or fleabay.  The Weaver ring mounts are cheap on fleabay too.
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 11:54:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stinkypol] [#32]
Here’s a shot of the Surefire M10 between the regular Weaver scope rings.  
The one on the right is correct for the M31 mount.

The Surefire mounts came with cap head screws or slotted screws.

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Now the the MP5 airsoft light up grade to a 660’ish style light.
The light wouldn’t work with the Surefire adapter and tail cap.
It did work with the A21 adapter and aftermarket pressure pad.
Here’s a shot of it in the functional setup.

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Link Posted: 5/27/2023 9:44:10 AM EDT
[#33]
Well as usual I guess I'm an idiot- I tossed three pairs of those old Weaver mounts about a month or two ago.  I just thought they were old rings nobody would want and hate dealing with shipping stuff.
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 9:55:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: firedog51d] [#34]
This should be moved to tech and stickied/set not to achieve.

It's a good thread that should not die.
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 10:01:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By firedog51d:
This should be moved to tech and stickied/set not to achieve.

It's a good thread that should not die.
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The BHD thread already exists in tech.
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 10:05:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By firedog51d:
This should be moved to tech and stickied/set not to achieve.

It's a good thread that should not die.
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TIA, eh danny?
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 10:36:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


The BHD thread already exists in tech.
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By firedog51d:
This should be moved to tech and stickied/set not to achieve.

It's a good thread that should not die.


The BHD thread already exists in tech.


Agreed and this is more of a Blood Diamond build thread.
I’ll IM a mod and try to get this moved.
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 10:43:52 AM EDT
[#38]
I have absolutely no need for one of these - nor a Heat AR carbine clone.

But dammit, its getting harder to resist
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 10:44:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:


Agreed and this is more of a Blood Diamond build thread.
I’ll IM a mod and try to get this moved.
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By firedog51d:
This should be moved to tech and stickied/set not to achieve.

It's a good thread that should not die.


The BHD thread already exists in tech.


Agreed and this is more of a Blood Diamond build thread.
I’ll IM a mod and try to get this moved.


The Gordon gun and the blood diamond gun is the same thing
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 11:22:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


The Gordon gun and the blood diamond gun is the same thing
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I understand that, but more of the Blood Diamond style gun itself and ways we can build it exclusively as such.

Such as the shorter barrel profile and 607 style moderator found the the BD carbine.
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 11:49:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:


I understand that, but more of the Blood Diamond style gun itself and ways we can build it exclusively as such.

Such as the shorter barrel profile and 607 style moderator found the the BD carbine.
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:
Originally Posted By 03RN:


The Gordon gun and the blood diamond gun is the same thing


I understand that, but more of the Blood Diamond style gun itself and ways we can build it exclusively as such.

Such as the shorter barrel profile and 607 style moderator found the the BD carbine.


Get both…and post in both threads?

Link Posted: 5/27/2023 12:45:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Get both…and post in both threads?

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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By stinkypol:
Originally Posted By 03RN:


The Gordon gun and the blood diamond gun is the same thing


I understand that, but more of the Blood Diamond style gun itself and ways we can build it exclusively as such.

Such as the shorter barrel profile and 607 style moderator found the the BD carbine.


Get both…and post in both threads?



Okay, I’ll send you my Zelle info and you can be my big patreon daddy.
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 1:27:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:


Okay, I’ll send you my Zelle info and you can be my big patreon daddy.
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By stinkypol:
Originally Posted By 03RN:


The Gordon gun and the blood diamond gun is the same thing


I understand that, but more of the Blood Diamond style gun itself and ways we can build it exclusively as such.

Such as the shorter barrel profile and 607 style moderator found the the BD carbine.


Get both…and post in both threads?



Okay, I’ll send you my Zelle info and you can be my big patreon daddy.


Haha, now it’s getting kinky.
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 1:28:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By subcomunic8r:
Did somebody say Blood Diamond?

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That
Is
Inspiring
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 1:35:00 PM EDT
[#45]
I should watch blood diamond today

Gordon carbine:

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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 11:06:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/30/2023 9:50:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By elcope:
OP, would you still like your thread moved to the A2 forum?

Sorry, just got back from Montana to the internet.
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@elcope

Welcome back and yes, when you have time.

Thank you.
Link Posted: 5/30/2023 10:12:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/30/2023 12:15:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:


Yep, just dumped another $143.

I found these, pressure pad, bulb, and reflector are different, but for $72 shipped each, I FO’d hard.

Here’s the site:

   https://shekkingears.com/products/660-replica

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136710/IMG_4357_jpeg-2826136.JPG

Oh, they make these too, and you can do the 660 or a 6P clone light.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136710/IMG_4358_jpeg-2826138.JPG
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Originally Posted By stinkypol:
Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
This is costing my $$$$$

Fixin to pull the trigger on a 6520 upper and tear it apart.


Yep, just dumped another $143.

I found these, pressure pad, bulb, and reflector are different, but for $72 shipped each, I FO’d hard.

Here’s the site:

   https://shekkingears.com/products/660-replica

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136710/IMG_4357_jpeg-2826136.JPG

Oh, they make these too, and you can do the 660 or a 6P clone light.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136710/IMG_4358_jpeg-2826138.JPG


There used to be a guy who made those gangster grips here on arfcom, so many LSO grips were butchered to make them.
Link Posted: 5/30/2023 12:54:27 PM EDT
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There used to be a guy who made those gangster grips here on arfcom, so many LSO grips were butchered to make them.
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Into the void  is who your looking
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