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Posted: 4/24/2012 9:33:01 PM EST
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The castle nut may be "staked". Check to see if yours is staked... if it is, you will need to break the staking job first.
If it is not staked, you may have loctite on the threads. I think that RRA may use loctite on the threads... Also, you may want to find someone who can lend you a higher quality castle nut wrench... |
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Posted: 4/24/2012 9:46:19 PM EST
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Thanks for the reply. I guess that leads me into another question. Is there any way to tell if the castle nut is staked. I have a dpms oracle, and I tried searching for topics without any luck.
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Posted: 4/24/2012 10:10:13 PM EST
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google image search staked castle nut. Look for the same thing on your rifle. If the is no staking it could be loctite making things difficult.
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Posted: 4/25/2012 1:01:51 AM EST
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Here's a pic taken from another thread of a staked castle nut-
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Posted: 4/25/2012 2:06:37 PM EST
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It was mentioned that if it is staked, that will need to be broken, what is the best way for going about that? I am learning as well
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Posted: 4/25/2012 2:41:18 PM EST
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Brute strength lol . A vise block would help . Ive always just done it using the grip of the gun as leverage . with the gun assembled i lay the gun on its side on my bench and the grip basically provides leverage as it digs into the bench as you turn the nut off . the gun can turn only so far before the grip begins hitting your bench . you wont be able to turn so hard your grip goes through your bench . Its hard to explain but it works quite well .
A longer grip on your wrench would also help generate more force . Like a piece of pipe . Ive done it with and without a vise block and neither have given me problems . Sorry for the crappy explanation . Its one of those that if i showed you you'd say "oh! I got it!" lol Good Luck |
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Posted: 4/25/2012 2:56:07 PM EST
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Alright I googled the staked castle nut last night, and my carbine doesn't have stakes. Thank you for the pictures much appreciated, Buckethead thats what it looks like I am gonna have to do.
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Posted: 4/25/2012 4:02:30 PM EST
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And some heat to make it easier to get the Loctite undone, hair dryer will help
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Posted: 4/25/2012 5:35:40 PM EST
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For Loctite 242 Disassembly:
1. Remove with standard hand tools. 2. In rare instances where hand tools do not work because of excessive engagement length, apply localized heat to nut or bolt to approximately 250 °C. Disassemble while hot. |
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Posted: 5/19/2012 10:18:33 PM EST
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I also have an Oracle, and I just put on the ASAP last week. It was not staked, but using that wrench without a lower receiver vice block is just wasted effort. Once that thing is locked down in a vice it should twist right off and you'll have no more problems. It's also a good tool to have laying around just in case
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Posted: 5/20/2012 10:18:41 AM EST
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The Hammerhead Tool company makes the best castle nut wrench that I have seen. Hammerheadrifletool.com
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Posted: 5/24/2012 1:25:05 PM EST
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Quoted: The castle nut may be "staked". Check to see if yours is staked... if it is, you will need to break the staking job first. And how do you break the stakes - alot of muscle and a stronger wrench? Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/26/2012 5:03:35 AM EST
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The castle nut may be "staked". Check to see if yours is staked... if it is, you will need to break the staking job first. And how do you break the stakes - alot of muscle and a stronger wrench? Thanks. Yes |
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Posted: 5/27/2012 6:27:19 AM EST
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The castle nut may be "staked". Check to see if yours is staked... if it is, you will need to break the staking job first. And how do you break the stakes - alot of muscle and a stronger wrench? Thanks. Yes Brute strength and a solid wrench usually breaks the staking, but if not you could use a hammer and punch to push some of the material out of the staking slot. |
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Posted: 5/28/2012 5:13:02 PM EST
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The Hammerhead Tool company makes the best castle nut wrench that I have seen. Hammerheadrifletool.com I read some reviews that said this wrench will not work with the Magpul ASAP due to the bar with the ring. Can anyone verify if this is true? I ordered the ASAP, and need a wrench to install it. |
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Posted: 5/28/2012 5:51:37 PM EST
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The Hammerhead Tool company makes the best castle nut wrench that I have seen. Hammerheadrifletool.com I read some reviews that said this wrench will not work with the Magpul ASAP due to the bar with the ring. Can anyone verify if this is true? I ordered the ASAP, and need a wrench to install it. Yes true. Wont work. |
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Posted: 5/29/2012 2:46:26 AM EST
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I'm going to order the ASAP for my Colt but I'm abit nervous reefing on the castle nut to break thru the stakes. Since I won't be using the old plate, I'd almost rather use a Dremyl with a thin cutting disc to cut a slot in the plate next to the stake and then tap the stake back into that slot. Someone somewhere suggested this and it seems to put the least strain on the buffer tube.
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Posted: 5/29/2012 2:52:18 AM EST
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The Hammerhead Tool company makes the best castle nut wrench that I have seen. Hammerheadrifletool.com I read some reviews that said this wrench will not work with the Magpul ASAP due to the bar with the ring. Can anyone verify if this is true? I ordered the ASAP, and need a wrench to install it. Yes true. Wont work. Thanks. Glad I didn't waste $40 on something I can't use. |
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Posted: 5/29/2012 2:55:34 AM EST
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Quoted:
I'm going to order the ASAP for my Colt but I'm abit nervous reefing on the castle nut to break thru the stakes. Since I won't be using the old plate, I'd almost rather use a Dremyl with a thin cutting disc to cut a slot in the plate next to the stake and then tap the stake back into that slot. Someone somewhere suggested this and it seems to put the least strain on the buffer tube. That's one way to do it. Just be aware that it will be staked in two places. However, if done correctly, your not going to damage the receiver extension (buffer tube) spinning the nut off. A good wrench like the HammerHead makes removal easy. |
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Posted: 5/29/2012 4:04:43 AM EST
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When you spin the castle nut off it will force the staked material back into the end plate.
Dremels typically cause more problems than they solve. You are really over thinking it. |
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Posted: 6/2/2012 10:28:51 PM EST
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A adjustable spanner hook wrench from a tool supplier will also work nicely.
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Posted: 6/7/2012 4:57:21 PM EST
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Get someone to hold it over the edge of your bench and tap the wrench with a hammer. Make sure you are on there good.
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