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Posted: 10/29/2022 8:00:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Not an expert, but would think it needs to go back to the shop if it's bad enough. Need to get the opposite channel/lug to wear somehow to balance it out, would think anyway. My bigger concern for mine is the ejector wearing so much it no longer ejects or isn't reliable. Can always install another barrel and bolt in the future, but not sure you can fix a worn ejector You can weld material back on to an ejector. It's been 20 years since I was really into AK's but I seem to recall hearing that was done back in the day. |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 2:22:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: You can weld material back on to an ejector. It's been 20 years since I was really into AK's but I seem to recall hearing that was done back in the day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Not an expert, but would think it needs to go back to the shop if it's bad enough. Need to get the opposite channel/lug to wear somehow to balance it out, would think anyway. My bigger concern for mine is the ejector wearing so much it no longer ejects or isn't reliable. Can always install another barrel and bolt in the future, but not sure you can fix a worn ejector You can weld material back on to an ejector. It's been 20 years since I was really into AK's but I seem to recall hearing that was done back in the day. Good to know 
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Posted: 10/29/2022 2:26:20 PM EDT
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SOB! It ran perfect for 4 mags - 120rds. Then 3 other surplus mags had instant failure to ejects + 2 broken shell casings. Using 55 gr PMC 5.56.
The Tapco mag seems to be flawless. @ATLANTIC-FIREARMS what's your return policy? I'm about done with one I bought from you. It doesn't work. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 2:38:18 PM EDT
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Nice!
I’m jelly 
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:42:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: The Tapco mag seems to be flawless. Everywhere I look Tapcos are OOS....I have also read Tapco is no more, you know if this is true? I have a WTB for Tapcos but I doubt anyone will sell if that is what the gun runs best with. I guess I will be limited to the one mine came with. I bought two surplus 35 rounders but have not tried them yet. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:48:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MSOGDAWG]
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Hopefully my gun will be here this Weds or Thurs
Trying to get a replacement rear for a bonesteel brace but I am not 100% certain what hardware I will need for the rear. Also thinking of coating my grip and handguard in OD. I did that on iGun pro and it looked pretty cool.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 12:30:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CPT_CAVEMAN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSOGDAWG: Everywhere I look Tapcos are OOS....I have also read Tapco is no more, you know if this is true? I have a WTB for Tapcos but I doubt anyone will sell if that is what the gun runs best with. I guess I will be limited to the one mine came with. I bought two surplus 35 rounders but have not tried them yet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSOGDAWG: Originally Posted By drobs: The Tapco mag seems to be flawless. Everywhere I look Tapcos are OOS....I have also read Tapco is no more, you know if this is true? I have a WTB for Tapcos but I doubt anyone will sell if that is what the gun runs best with. I guess I will be limited to the one mine came with. I bought two surplus 35 rounders but have not tried them yet. Should have spent a few more bucks and got the new production rock n lock magazines https://gunmagwarehouse.com/iwi-galil-rock-n-lock-35-round-magazine.html |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 2:53:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Should have spent a few more bucks and got the new production rock n lock magazines https://gunmagwarehouse.com/iwi-galil-rock-n-lock-35-round-magazine.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By MSOGDAWG: Originally Posted By drobs: The Tapco mag seems to be flawless. Everywhere I look Tapcos are OOS....I have also read Tapco is no more, you know if this is true? I have a WTB for Tapcos but I doubt anyone will sell if that is what the gun runs best with. I guess I will be limited to the one mine came with. I bought two surplus 35 rounders but have not tried them yet. Should have spent a few more bucks and got the new production rock n lock magazines https://gunmagwarehouse.com/iwi-galil-rock-n-lock-35-round-magazine.html Would have but they were OOS at time of order....I am waiting on restock notification tho. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 5:32:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: drobs]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Should have spent a few more bucks and got the new production rock n lock magazines https://gunmagwarehouse.com/iwi-galil-rock-n-lock-35-round-magazine.html Per IWI those only work with the Galil Ace. In stock at IWI, hell lets throw some more $ at this turd. https://iwi.us/product/5-56-nato-rock-n-lock-magazine/ Hopefully they aren't just refinished surplus mags. I got 2 of those (refinished) that don't work. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 7:08:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: Per IWI those only work with the Galil Ace. In stock at IWI, hell lets throw some more $ at this turd. https://iwi.us/product/5-56-nato-rock-n-lock-magazine/ Hopefully they aren't just refinished surplus mags. I got 2 of those (refinished) that don't work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Should have spent a few more bucks and got the new production rock n lock magazines https://gunmagwarehouse.com/iwi-galil-rock-n-lock-35-round-magazine.html Per IWI those only work with the Galil Ace. In stock at IWI, hell lets throw some more $ at this turd. https://iwi.us/product/5-56-nato-rock-n-lock-magazine/ Hopefully they aren't just refinished surplus mags. I got 2 of those (refinished) that don't work. Are you sure they're the same mags? If they are I got 5 a few months back and haven't had any issues with mine. Got the ones from mag warehouse. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 8:44:59 PM EDT
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Zooming in pretty close they appear the same. Tried finding a SKU or part # on IWI to compare to Gunmag Wharehouse but didnt see one (dont mean I didnt overlook it though)
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Posted: 11/1/2022 7:35:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Are you sure they're the same mags? If they are I got 5 a few months back and haven't had any issues with mine. Got the ones from mag warehouse. I ordered some, we'll see. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 9:06:34 AM EDT
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Folks...you do know the bolt receiver lug cut outs are staggered and their are like 30 different bolt specs. The bolt is a A7 which means the measurement difference between lugs are .007.
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Posted: 11/1/2022 9:12:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CPT_CAVEMAN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By howardhughes: Folks...you do know the bolt receiver lug cut outs are staggered and their are like 30 different bolt specs. The bolt is a A7 which means the measurement difference between lugs are .007. Yes on the first part. And second part just makes me think ATI is lazy. Sounds like they don't want to properly fit the bolts to the receiver. And even if they did want to, if the channels are cut incorrectly one lug will match up great and the other not so much. Look at the pic I posted ones tight AF and the other is like 1/8". |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:09:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By howardhughes: Folks...you do know the bolt receiver lug cut outs are staggered and their are like 30 different bolt specs. The bolt is a A7 which means the measurement difference between lugs are .007. And your point is what? Do you have a bucket of spare bolts? Want to send them to me so I can fit the correct one to this receiver? I'll send you this one back to you. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 8:35:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MSOGDAWG]
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I got my "surplus" mags in from mag wharehouse. If these are "surplus" then they were unused surplus. Mine are beautiful, new in wrapper coated in oil and the follower looks 100% untouched. I cleaned the oil off thinking it may be hiding some imperfections....nope not at all. They both lock up firm and great, I am pretty satisfied. Just need to run em on the range now.
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Posted: 11/5/2022 10:11:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By howardhughes: Folks...you do know the bolt receiver lug cut outs are staggered and their are like 30 different bolt specs. The bolt is a A7 which means the measurement difference between lugs are .007. @howardhughes So, my bolt has A5 so that means the measurement different between lugs is .005? I also got a parts kit that had a A7. How many different types of bolts are there or what is the measurement range? |
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Posted: 11/6/2022 3:56:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: howardhughes]
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So the bolt lug mill out in the receiver are staggered ie...their is a incremental difference that is measured from the receiver Datum to the respective bolt lug mill out... if you measure the 2 there will be a number... and that number is the bolt lug split that is numbered to the bolt... .007 is a A7 etc. Look at Jeff Millers u-tube video for a exact explanation. I am a Smith on the M14/M1a/Garand which has even lug distance but different LOA, lapping is quite different.
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Posted: 11/6/2022 4:04:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: howardhughes]
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DROBS ...My point is go to u-tube and look at jeff millers video on bolt measurement/ lap. Your remark is a bit sarcastic to be honest I wouldn't send you jack with your remark. Get Educated on the weapon.
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Posted: 11/6/2022 4:14:51 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db5oStsfKuA
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Posted: 11/6/2022 7:13:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By howardhughes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db5oStsfKuA Thanks |
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Posted: 11/7/2022 11:25:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By howardhughes: DROBS ...My point is go to u-tube and look at jeff millers video on bolt measurement/ lap. Your remark is a bit sarcastic to be honest I wouldn't send you jack with your remark. Get Educated on the weapon. My criticism still stands even after watching your video. Unless you have a bucket of bolts, that I can swap out till I find the right one, that info you posted isn't helpful. |
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Posted: 11/7/2022 2:49:23 PM EDT
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This video might actually help.
 Galil Bolt polish Pointing out little factoids about bolt specs really isn't helpful unless you're trying to impress with your knowledge. |
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Posted: 11/7/2022 3:30:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: This video might actually help.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-LRx-qll2APointing out little factoids about bolt specs really isn't helpful unless you're trying to impress with your knowledge. Where does one get a piece of an old barrel? |
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Posted: 11/7/2022 4:16:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Where does one get a piece of an old barrel? It would come with a parts kit, if you were building from a parts kit. With a complete built gun, I would be polishing the bolt in the gun, I have. I'd skip that spring loaded shell casing as well. |
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Posted: 11/8/2022 10:14:05 AM EDT
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Okay....dont blast me, I am genuinely trying to learn. How would I know that I would need to lap the bolt. I dont know what or how to look for indicators I may need to do this. I have the ATI Galeo in hand now and it "appears" to my uneducated eye things are OK. Some may say I should know the gun before purchase but I look at it the way the Corps taught me. They issued me a rifle I was never exposed to and taught me a lot about it. What they didnt teach I went out and learned with hands on my own ARs. That said I ask what I need to be aware of. Even if you direct me to videos that are truly helpful I would be appreciative.
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Posted: 11/8/2022 4:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSOGDAWG: Okay....dont blast me, I am genuinely trying to learn. How would I know that I would need to lap the bolt. I dont know what or how to look for indicators I may need to do this. I have the ATI Galeo in hand now and it "appears" to my uneducated eye things are OK. Some may say I should know the gun before purchase but I look at it the way the Corps taught me. They issued me a rifle I was never exposed to and taught me a lot about it. What they didnt teach I went out and learned with hands on my own ARs. That said I ask what I need to be aware of. Even if you direct me to videos that are truly helpful I would be appreciative. I think the question you're really wanting to know is if you need a new barrel/have too much headspace. Lapping the bolt would just make the bolt fit between the barrel and receiver. If you've shot your gun you should be fine. The answer to the question you did ask is, you need a 556 go gauge. |
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Posted: 11/8/2022 5:42:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MSOGDAWG]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: I think the question you're really wanting to know is if you need a new barrel/have too much headspace. Lapping the bolt would just make the bolt fit between the barrel and receiver. If you've shot your gun you should be fine. The answer to the question you did ask is, you need a 556 go gauge. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By MSOGDAWG: Okay....dont blast me, I am genuinely trying to learn. How would I know that I would need to lap the bolt. I dont know what or how to look for indicators I may need to do this. I have the ATI Galeo in hand now and it "appears" to my uneducated eye things are OK. Some may say I should know the gun before purchase but I look at it the way the Corps taught me. They issued me a rifle I was never exposed to and taught me a lot about it. What they didnt teach I went out and learned with hands on my own ARs. That said I ask what I need to be aware of. Even if you direct me to videos that are truly helpful I would be appreciative. I think the question you're really wanting to know is if you need a new barrel/have too much headspace. Lapping the bolt would just make the bolt fit between the barrel and receiver. If you've shot your gun you should be fine. The answer to the question you did ask is, you need a 556 go gauge. OK that I can do. I have not shot it yet, so I will check headspace and go from there. Thank-You Sir. ETA: just picked up a 5.56 Clymer gauge set from Primary Arms |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 6:28:27 PM EDT
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Jeff Millers video on bolt and receiver markings is interesting, but with out the "missing chart" the numbers on the bolt and receiver are useless.
And the numbers on the bolt and the receiver on factory guns rarely match. Again we need the missing chart or you are back to square one. Headspace on an ak (galil) that is using mix matching parts (factory bolt and US trunnion or US receiver) is a lot more involved than a go-nogo-field. Jeff video on polishing the bolt and never file or grind on the bolt is spot on. But this is done before you set the headspace on a new barrel. even if you are just using a live round to check headspace (remove your firing pin or point down range), even lug engagement is what you should also be looking for. You can use a sharpie if you dont have dykem....but like I said if your gun has a gap on one lug and it closes on a round...$$$ to fix.... as is the gun is junk and should be taken out of service. Never trust a clone...not until it has been properly inspected, and even then dont trust it 100%. What you want is even lug contact, near full lug contact, and ideally, tight headspace (barley closes on a GO) |
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Posted: 11/13/2022 6:31:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: drobs]
[#30]
A Missouri Arfcommer (@Mattgunguy) who's built Galils went over both my JRA Galil Rifle and ATI Galil Pistol.
The JRA headspaced just fine. The bolt with the extractor removed, would not close on a No Go or Field Gauge, and closed on the Go gauge. Matt opened the Gas Port in the barrel a little wider. Opening day of deer season was Saturday, I wont be able to test fire it for another week. The ATI failed the headspacing test. The ATI's bolt with extractor removed closed on all 3 gauges. I'll be looking to replace the barrel. My plan is to swap it with a full length barrel cut down to 16 inches so I can put a folder on it and not mess with SBR'ing this gun in December. Edited to add: The IWI Rock & Lock mags fit in the ATI but not my JRA. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 3:07:39 PM EDT
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@drobs any update on if opening up the gas port helped?
My galil is so sexy but damn I wish it worked. |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 6:46:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: @drobs any update on if opening up the gas port helped? My galil is so sexy but damn I wish it worked. Opening up the gas port on the JRA didn't help. Now it FTE's on the 1st round everytime. The Arfcom member that worked on it for me, mentioned trying an adjustable gas piston. I think that will be the next step or sending it back to JRA. I picked up a new 18 inch barrel for the ATI from here: https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/galilbarrel001.htm Hoping that cures the head spacing issue. Plus it allows me to put a full stock on it. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 2:03:22 PM EDT
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Mine has ran perfect (granted, less than 500 rounds) with Tapco mags, and known-good surplus steel. Thing must have a gas port the size of a dime though the way it recoils and slings brass. Put an extra power Wolff recoil spring in it and a buffer. Seems to help a LITTLE.
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ5326X2: Mine has ran perfect (granted, less than 500 rounds) with Tapco mags, and known-good surplus steel. Thing must have a gas port the size of a dime though the way it recoils and slings brass. Put an extra power Wolff recoil spring in it and a buffer. Seems to help a LITTLE. Have you checked your lug channels, and what number is on your bolt 50+? |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:26:05 PM EDT
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What parts on the galeo pistol make it 922r complaint?
Barrel, receiver, magazine,? |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 11:30:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: drobs]
[#36]
Feedback from Matt in regards to swapping barrels on the ATI:
"ATI installed the barrel wrong. Wasn't screwed all the way in & they used a timing / breaching washer to torque it down which made the headspace long. Basically, I'd bet that they bought a crap ton of finished barrels & used the washers to to get the gas port & hand guard retainer cuts & extractor cuts to line up correctly. Then said good enough on headspace. Nothing wrong with using a breaching washer to set headspace, the Brits use them a lot. But the fiddly bits like gas ports shouldn't be done first." |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 11:44:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: What parts on the galeo pistol make it 922r complaint? Barrel, receiver, magazine,? I like James River Armory's 922R statement: "We provide a US made magazine for 922 compliance. Once the rifle has been transferred to an individual this compliance requirement no longer applies." |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 10:47:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: drobs]
[#38]
It works! 16.5 inch barrel added to the ATI. Runs perfectly, I shot 4 x 35rd mags in it yesterday. No failures of any kind.
 Attached File18 inch barrel cut down to 16.5 inches: https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/galilbarrel001.htm Rock n Lock 35rd mags OOS: https://iwi.us/product/5-56-nato-rock-n-lock-magazine/ |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 3:41:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: It works! 16.5 inch barrel added to the ATI. Runs perfectly, I shot 4 x 35rd mags in it yesterday. No failures of any kind. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/ATI_Galil_Rifle_JPG-2710585.JPG 18 inch barrel cut down to 16.5 inches: https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/galilbarrel001.htm Rock n Lock 35rd mags OOS: https://iwi.us/product/5-56-nato-rock-n-lock-magazine/ Probably cuz it's properly head spaced. I take it you're left handed, how are you liking that sling setup. I came to the exact same conclusion on how to set mine up. |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 7:57:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Probably cuz it's properly head spaced. I take it you're left handed, how are you liking that sling setup. I came to the exact same conclusion on how to set mine up. Yep I am left handed. Head spacing was everything. I use these ebay extra long slings: Black - he's out of green at the moment: https://www.ebay.com/itm/312728793932 And these sling adapters: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0789ZT8ZV?tag=arfcom00-20 |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 2:19:26 PM EDT
[#41]
Now figure out what’s wrong with your Jra so I can fix mine.
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Posted: 3/6/2023 10:30:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: drobs]
[#42]
RE 922r fudness - your allowed 10 foreign parts from this list. I'm at 11. I've added a couple more US made parts.
Looks like magazine followers would be the cheapest replacement. Old thread on them: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AK-47/Replacing-followers-in-Galil-35-round-magazines-/92-167390/ I wonder if a AR15 mag floorplate would fit or could be made to fit a Galil Mag? receiver - US barrel - US https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/galilbarrel001.htm muzzle device - US https://www.cncwarrior.com/category-s/1889.htm bolt - 1 bolt carrier - 2 piston - 3 trigger - 4 hammer - 5 disconnector - 6 butt stock - 7 pistol grip - US https://shop.roninsgrips.com/IMI-Galil-Grip-with-Screw-IMI-Galil.htm hand guard - 8 mag body - 9 mag follower - 10 mag floorplate - 11 |
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Posted: 5/6/2023 1:11:01 PM EDT
[#43]
Just ordered a KNS piston for my SAR. Any experience using them in a Galil type rifle?
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Posted: 5/6/2023 5:18:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ5326X2: Just ordered a KNS piston for my SAR. Any experience using them in a Galil type rifle? Looked at getting one, but a stiffer recoil spring tamed it down quite a bit. |
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Posted: 5/7/2023 7:30:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: drobs]
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Posted: 5/7/2023 10:00:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CPT_CAVEMAN]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: 2 second vid - ATI Galil Rifle. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gRJ2eJOgl_s Nice. Looks pretty slick with the SAR gas system and 16" barrel. Like a mini FAiL or something |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 1:07:24 PM EDT
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Palmetto state has them on clearance for 750.
Even with the issues they're probably worth it. |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 3:25:10 PM EDT
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I just ordered one from PSA. Hope its not a turd. Will post updates when it arrives.
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Posted: 5/19/2023 3:34:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2023 5:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ5326X2: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20230519_123204_jpg-2822029.JPG Buffer after ONE range session. The gas port has to be stupid-huge. Recoil spring wore out? |
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