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Originally Posted By New2AR15s: This thread was definitely involved in my inspiration to pick up the SAO legion in my thread View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Originally Posted By Teamer: You’re making me want to explore pawnshops for used 226’s. This thread was definitely involved in my inspiration to pick up the SAO legion in my thread You’re welcome |
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Congrats on some really pieces.
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: You’re welcome View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Originally Posted By Teamer: You’re making me want to explore pawnshops for used 226’s. This thread was definitely involved in my inspiration to pick up the SAO legion in my thread You’re welcome Im starting to talk myself into saving some money to buy an X5 as a 30th Birthday gift to myself in December |
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Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Im starting to talk myself into saving some money to buy an X5 as a 30th Birthday gift to myself in December View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Originally Posted By Teamer: You’re making me want to explore pawnshops for used 226’s. This thread was definitely involved in my inspiration to pick up the SAO legion in my thread You’re welcome Im starting to talk myself into saving some money to buy an X5 as a 30th Birthday gift to myself in December It is so worth it. Even stock you totally understand why it’s a $2,400 gun |
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Nice work. I really appreciate you doing these threads. This site nears moar!
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“Firearm springs sometimes are made to be air soluble.” CSM Woods
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/E0607301-FA5A-4D35-8238-135C450259F6-2901119.jpg Optic’s zeroed at 25yds with the 147gr HST LE loads, the new magazines are assembled with Springer base pads and extended springs and function checked. Tomorrow’s range day, got another 300 rounds (100 JHP/200 FMJ) to put through the gun to bring the total for the first month to an even thousand. More soon View Quote You have a full time job here OP - between shooting and cleaning you will stay busy. |
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Originally Posted By GreyBeardBiker: You have a full time job here OP - between shooting and cleaning you will stay busy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GreyBeardBiker: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/E0607301-FA5A-4D35-8238-135C450259F6-2901119.jpg Optic’s zeroed at 25yds with the 147gr HST LE loads, the new magazines are assembled with Springer base pads and extended springs and function checked. Tomorrow’s range day, got another 300 rounds (100 JHP/200 FMJ) to put through the gun to bring the total for the first month to an even thousand. More soon You have a full time job here OP - between shooting and cleaning you will stay busy. I’m honestly not sure how diligently it’ll need to be cleaned - though I’ll prefer to keep it fairly well maintained anyway. I lubed it quite liberally for the first range trip, added a bit more lube before the second set of ~350 rounds and field stripped, cleaned, and re-lubed it afterwards. Added a drop of lube to the frame rails before going this last Sunday and wiped the gunk off the exterior afterwards. Based on anecdotal and historical evidence though P226s tend to handle maintenance neglect (not abuse) fairly well. Like I mentioned, probably at about the 2,000 round mark I’ll likely do a “no lube/cleaning for X rounds” test to see how well this particular pistol holds up. What does everyone think would be a good test in that regard? 2,000 rounds? Sticking to the ~200 rounds/week shooting schedule should be easy enough, and it’ll keep me motivated to get my ass to the range a lot more regularly than I have previously |
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Now that looks like an heirloom gun!
This thread has derailed my dream gun from a 2011 to this. |
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Originally Posted By Vaquero: Now that looks like an heirloom gun! This thread has derailed my dream gun from a 2011 to this. View Quote I have to admit, although I really did want to see pics of everyone’s heirloom guns, including a picture of the Roci in the OP was a tiny bit of a troll - a successful one at that Before I zeroed in on this my original plan was to get a custom 2011 built to my specs. Honestly I think I’m more pleased with this though |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/5BD9D5D0-CCF1-4AA0-9277-E1AD06AC8B22-2908505.jpg [Sean Connery] Shmooth [/Sean Connery] View Quote If you put your regular sights on that will you be able to co-witness through that red dot? |
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Originally Posted By GreyBeardBiker: If you put your regular sights on that will you be able to co-witness through that red dot? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GreyBeardBiker: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/5BD9D5D0-CCF1-4AA0-9277-E1AD06AC8B22-2908505.jpg [Sean Connery] Shmooth [/Sean Connery] If you put your regular sights on that will you be able to co-witness through that red dot? I’m not quite sure what you’re asking? The rear iron sight is attached to the optic cover plate on this gun, so if you install a dot you lose your rear sight. And since there’s no rear sight anyway there’s not much point in having a front sight. I’ve been comfortable with defensive pistols that don’t have BUIS for a while now though. In general though yes, the optic is just a Holosun 508T. People get BUIS that co-witness through it all the time. I don’t want any of that mess in my sight line anyway though |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/599D5A63-E5D5-40CD-A581-49B2453AE367-2902828.jpg Range time delayed a day but went first thing this morning. So much better than brunch. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/26C93E7F-C978-4A42-90C5-4972330D1086-2902829.jpg 300 more problem-free rounds to bring the total to 1,000 for the first month. So far no issues whatsoever, not even a failure to lock back on empty. I’m thinking at some point I’m gonna try a “no cleaning/no lube for X rounds” test and see how much neglect this gun will actually put up with before starting to have issues. Starting to turn to thoughts of holsters for the pistol. Wanting both an AIWB bucket and a Safariland QLS OWB retention holster, but need to do a bit more research to figure out which OWB holster will work. Probably just go with a Phlster light-bearing Enigma for AIWB, they seem to work well View Quote Does Safariland make a holster for the P226X5 with an optic and a light? Safariland has stated they do not make an optics ready holster for a regular P226 with a light. |
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Originally Posted By MaxxII: Does Safariland make a holster for the P226X5 with an optic and a light? Safariland has stated they do not make an optics ready holster for a regular P226 with a light. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MaxxII: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/599D5A63-E5D5-40CD-A581-49B2453AE367-2902828.jpg Range time delayed a day but went first thing this morning. So much better than brunch. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/26C93E7F-C978-4A42-90C5-4972330D1086-2902829.jpg 300 more problem-free rounds to bring the total to 1,000 for the first month. So far no issues whatsoever, not even a failure to lock back on empty. I’m thinking at some point I’m gonna try a “no cleaning/no lube for X rounds” test and see how much neglect this gun will actually put up with before starting to have issues. Starting to turn to thoughts of holsters for the pistol. Wanting both an AIWB bucket and a Safariland QLS OWB retention holster, but need to do a bit more research to figure out which OWB holster will work. Probably just go with a Phlster light-bearing Enigma for AIWB, they seem to work well Does Safariland make a holster for the P226X5 with an optic and a light? Safariland has stated they do not make an optics ready holster for a regular P226 with a light. I haven’t taken the time to look yet, but quite possibly not. If not I’ll have to find something else |
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Work got in the way of range time this weekend so nothing for this week. Might make it up after work during the week, my range is open late on weeknights
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This thread interests be greatly. Thanks for the updates OP.
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Not like I have much better to do, and talking to the voices in my head gets repetitive View Quote Attached File |
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Hmmm…Well after a little more research/looking at pictures of factory new pistols I’m thinking that’s NOT a chip in the slide, that’s the way it comes from the factory, and this is just the first I’m noticing it. Which means the problem, as usual, is I’m an idiot
Either way that whole thing about wearing scars with pride is still true. Just, you know, after it actually gets a real one… |
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Phlster on their shit as usual, already shipped
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Up next to try is an OWB Floodlight holster with a Kore Essentials reinforced belt. It won’t be a concealment/carry setup but it’ll at least give me something to use at the range for a bit more dynamic practice than just standing around and shooting.
ETA: For those unfamiliar, this is kind of how my project threads go - there’s a lot of trial and error. Have a thought/idea, see if it works, if it does then great, if not then oh well and move on to what’s next |
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FWIW my range setup with my X5 Stas is a G-Code Operator's belt with the padded inner belt and the Comp-Tac X5 holster attached with an RTI hanger. I position it just above my normal belt holding my pants up and it does just fine holding the weight.
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Originally Posted By helix139: FWIW my range setup with my X5 Stas is a G-Code Operator's belt with the padded inner belt and the Comp-Tac X5 holster attached with an RTI hanger. I position it just above my normal belt holding my pants up and it does just fine holding the weight. View Quote @helix139 Would you be able to share pics and links? I’m perfectly happy to experiment with different setups. Based on my short experimentation last night the Kore belt with the Safariland leg strap will hold the pistol well enough. I did order a different adapter for the Safariland leg shroud so I can just clip the whole setup on when I get to the range rather than actually threading it onto whatever belt I’m wearing |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: @helix139 Would you be able to share pics and links? I’m perfectly happy to experiment with different setups. Based on my short experimentation last night the Kore belt with the Safariland leg strap will hold the pistol well enough. I did order a different adapter for the Safariland leg shroud so I can just clip the whole setup on when I get to the range rather than actually threading it onto whatever belt I’m wearing View Quote Sure thing! They have a bunch of different ready made belt set ups here: G-Code Belts That said, I put together my own. I started with this: Contact Series Operator's Belt. I ordered both the velcro inner belt and the padded inner belt. I generally leave the padded one on as I can throw it over whatever I am wearing and everything stays put fine. If I need a little extra hold, I can throw the velcro one through my belt loops but I haven't really needed to. To that belt, I added this RTI mount (I already had an RTI drop leg that can attach to this): RTI Rotating Tactical Belt Mount These pistol mag carrier belt loops: https://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/g-code-belt-loop/ These pistol mag carriers: GSM Pistol Mag Carriers They don't make the D3 mag carriers I have anymore. I think they left when the HSP licensing ran out (HSP now partners with Safariland). For the RTI hanger, just about any of them will work on this comp tac holster. It has a very universal hole pattern |
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Originally Posted By helix139: Sure thing! https://i.imgur.com/BRobtmX.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/RIP45CD.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/CKTtl18.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/RwmQq2N.jpeg They have a bunch of different ready made belt set ups here: G-Code Belts That said, I put together my own. I started with this: Contact Series Operator's Belt. I ordered both the velcro inner belt and the padded inner belt. I generally leave the padded one on as I can throw it over whatever I am wearing and everything stays put fine. If I need a little extra hold, I can throw the velcro one through my belt loops but I haven't really needed to. To that belt, I added this RTI mount (I already had an RTI drop leg that can attach to this): RTI Rotating Tactical Belt Mount These pistol mag carrier belt loops: https://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/g-code-belt-loop/ These pistol mag carriers: GSM Pistol Mag Carriers They don't make the D3 mag carriers I have anymore. I think they left when the HSP licensing ran out (HSP now partners with Safariland). For the RTI hanger, just about any of them will work on this comp tac holster. It has a very universal hole pattern View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By helix139: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: @helix139 Would you be able to share pics and links? I’m perfectly happy to experiment with different setups. Based on my short experimentation last night the Kore belt with the Safariland leg strap will hold the pistol well enough. I did order a different adapter for the Safariland leg shroud so I can just clip the whole setup on when I get to the range rather than actually threading it onto whatever belt I’m wearing Sure thing! https://i.imgur.com/BRobtmX.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/RIP45CD.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/CKTtl18.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/RwmQq2N.jpeg They have a bunch of different ready made belt set ups here: G-Code Belts That said, I put together my own. I started with this: Contact Series Operator's Belt. I ordered both the velcro inner belt and the padded inner belt. I generally leave the padded one on as I can throw it over whatever I am wearing and everything stays put fine. If I need a little extra hold, I can throw the velcro one through my belt loops but I haven't really needed to. To that belt, I added this RTI mount (I already had an RTI drop leg that can attach to this): RTI Rotating Tactical Belt Mount These pistol mag carrier belt loops: https://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/g-code-belt-loop/ These pistol mag carriers: GSM Pistol Mag Carriers They don't make the D3 mag carriers I have anymore. I think they left when the HSP licensing ran out (HSP now partners with Safariland). For the RTI hanger, just about any of them will work on this comp tac holster. It has a very universal hole pattern Thank you sir! Unfortunately though it looks like my concern it’d be a non-light bearing holster is true. There are tons of competition holsters out there for the P226 X-Five that would work great sans WML, but very few available for the pistol with X300U and optic. I’ve even been considering the possibility of trying out a Safariland RDS holster for a P320 X-Five with WML and optic, since the slide design/profile between the two guns is so similar |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Thank you sir! Unfortunately though it looks like my concern it’d be a non-light bearing holster is true. There are tons of competition holsters out there for the P226 X-Five that would work great sans WML, but very few available for the pistol with X300U and optic. I’ve even been considering the possibility of trying out a Safariland RDS holster for a P320 X-Five with WML and optic, since the slide design/profile between the two guns is so similar View Quote Oh 100%, but the belt setup will work on any holster that accepts an RTI hangar. I run this same belt on my 226 Legion, 229 Legion, Agency Arms M&P, etc. Throw an RTI hangar on something like that Floodlight you posted above or an Omnivore or T.Rex Ragnarok (which they make for an 226 with x300U, but it has an open bottom) and you may be good to go. |
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Originally Posted By helix139: Oh 100%, but the belt setup will work on any holster that accepts an RTI hangar. I run this same belt on my 226 Legion, 229 Legion, Agency Arms M&P, etc. Throw an RTI hangar on something like that Floodlight you posted above or an Omnivore or T.Rex Ragnarok (which they make for an 226 with x300U, but it has an open bottom) and you may be good to go. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By helix139: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Thank you sir! Unfortunately though it looks like my concern it’d be a non-light bearing holster is true. There are tons of competition holsters out there for the P226 X-Five that would work great sans WML, but very few available for the pistol with X300U and optic. I’ve even been considering the possibility of trying out a Safariland RDS holster for a P320 X-Five with WML and optic, since the slide design/profile between the two guns is so similar Oh 100%, but the belt setup will work on any holster that accepts an RTI hangar. I run this same belt on my 226 Legion, 229 Legion, Agency Arms M&P, etc. Throw an RTI hangar on something like that Floodlight you posted above or an Omnivore or T.Rex Ragnarok (which they make for an 226 with x300U, but it has an open bottom) and you may be good to go. I’m pretty heavily invested in Safariland’s similar QLS adapter system so will probably stick with that over the RTI. Now that you mention it though I had forgotten about the Blackhawk Omnivore, that would likely work as an option for an active retention holster with the WML… Looks like the Omnivore is available for southpaws and multiple companies make adapter plates to mount a QLS fork to the Blackhawk holster bolt pattern. Time to order a few more things! |
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Ah god dammit, always read the fine print before spending money.
The Omnivore is only compatible with the A model X300U, not the B model with the thumb screw, confirmed by multiple end-user reports found online. Luckily I caught this before completing the checkout, so that saved me some money on something that would’ve been a useless hunk of plastic. Honestly I don’t know why Safariland themselves haven’t come out with a universal, light-dependent active retention holster design yet. I’d think it’d be a very popular item for them, and they’d probably execute it the best of anyone who’s tried to make one yet |
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…Not sure why that last picture is upside down 🙃
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Originally Posted By Croak: Take the barrel plug out of a Safariland 7TS RDS X300/TLR1 holster for a P320 FS and the P226 X5 should fit and lock in well. No mods needed for a regular P226. 6390 RDS X300 also works, but you have to remove the crossbar at the bottom of the holster and barrel plug. View Quote This is good info I’ve been looking for. What’s your source? Personal experience? |
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Originally Posted By Croak: Edited above. You might have to take a heat gun and bend the right top out a bit to it to give clearance for the ambi safety on that side, plenty of room on the left side. https://imgur.com/gZGPRCx.jpg Also, the 4.4" barrel on my Elite ends at the top red line, an X300 ends at the bottom red, just to give you an idea of clearance left. https://imgur.com/Hxn9BVN.jpg https://imgur.com/dyNRnfM.jpg View Quote Very good to know, thank you sir! I’ll take a look further at Safariland’s 7TS P320 holster options and see what’s what |
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Quick heads up about pulling the barrel plug from a Safariland holster:
I did it so I could work on draw stroke while using a Coolfire system,(barrel protrudes farther than the muzzle). Just wanted back up parts in case I lost them so I called Safariland to order more. Safariland told me that removing the plug voided the warranty of the holster, and they did not sell them. They were considered a safety part, (retention) and removing them was a no no. Mine is fine, (kept the parts and only use it for dry fire practice), but just wanted you to be aware of Safariland’s view of this. |
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Originally Posted By MaxxII: Quick heads up about pulling the barrel plug from a Safariland holster: I did it so I could work on draw stroke while using a Coolfire system,(barrel protrudes farther than the muzzle). Just wanted back up parts in case I lost them so I called Safariland to order more. Safariland told me that removing the plug voided the warranty of the holster, and they did not sell them. They were considered a safety part, (retention) and removing them was a no no. Mine is fine, (kept the parts and only use it for dry fire practice), but just wanted you to be aware of Safariland’s view of this. View Quote There's a solution for that. https://store.otdefense.com/collections/nub-mods/products/7ts-adjust-plate?variant=43872535314657 Same company that makes the Nub mod for Safariland ALS holsters. They also have something similar for the 6000 series. |
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