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Posted: 4/8/2012 7:18:14 AM EDT
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S&W M&P, and CZ 75 po7 Duty are my two 9mm's that are +p rated.... I know there are tons of other +p rated guns but those are just the two 9mm's that I own that are +p rated.
There is the belief that any gun +p rated for a few round hahah 
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Posted: 4/8/2012 7:23:26 AM EDT
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Glock 17 is rated for 9mm +p+ (NATO 124 Submachine gun ammo)
That stuff is HOT!! The Glock will eat it all day, spit out that lead and piss back the brass! |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 7:47:31 AM EDT
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Any modern 9mm in good mechanical condition can handle +p
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Posted: 4/8/2012 7:50:06 AM EDT
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Any modern 9mm in good mechanical condition can handle +p This. Just be aware, although they can handle it, it will accelerate wear. Maybe not by much, but it will. Bub75 |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 8:00:57 AM EDT
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Any modern 9mm in good mechanical condition can handle +p Diamondack specifically warns against the use of +P ammo in their guns. |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 8:12:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: Glock 17 is rated for 9mm +p+ (NATO 124 Submachine gun ammo) That stuff is HOT!! The Glock will eat it all day, spit out that lead and piss back the brass! Is the ammo labeled "NATO" 9mm the "hot" stuff? I've been wanting to try some in my G19. |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 9:08:27 AM EDT
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Glock 17 is rated for 9mm +p+ (NATO 124 Submachine gun ammo) That stuff is HOT!! The Glock will eat it all day, spit out that lead and piss back the brass! Sounds interesting, I would love to see the specs on the ballistics vs non +p. |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 9:55:40 AM EDT
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most of the NATO 9mm (for example winchester Gov issue ball.) is just into the plus p range. Having chrongraphed it out of mil issue berettas it ran 1280FPS.
sub gun ammo (like the uzi/imi black tip) is hotter and usually not for handgun use. It would be an easier list to list the modern guns not rated for +p like diamondback and kimber solo. I'd say any gun made after 1970 is a pretty safe bet. any WW 2 surplus handgun should probably not be shot with +p. |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 10:36:48 AM EDT
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Any modern 9mm in good mechanical condition can handle +p Diamondack specifically warns against the use of +P ammo in their guns. Being as the owner of diamondback supports obama thats not a problem for me as I will never own one. |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 10:39:28 AM EDT
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My Beretta PX4 manual mentioned P+ was ok but might cause premature wear issues.
Kel Tec PF9 manual I think says "not recommended" IIRCC. Though, considering the smack regular 9MM does to the hand I don't think I'd want to shoot P+ in it for fear of flinching.
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Posted: 4/8/2012 11:40:34 AM EDT
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Any modern 9mm in good mechanical condition can handle +p Diamondack specifically warns against the use of +P ammo in their guns. Being as the owner of diamondback supports obama thats not a problem for me as I will never own one. I don't care who Diamondback supports. Those guns are pieces of shit, so I'll never own one. Most all modern handguns will shoot +P just find. Obviously, it will simply accelerate wear. Which is fine. I don't think there is any cheap, FMJ plinking/practice ammo out there that even meets standard pressure specs. The only time this would come into play is if you somehow got your hands on a stash of imported sub-gun ammo, or were an insane hand loader. I'd go broke trying to shoot my +P carry loads with any regularity. |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 11:56:06 AM EDT
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its alot shorter list of guns that couldnt handle it.
To the OP. Get a couple guns in mind that your looking at and list them. Its time consuming and most unnecessary to try and list every 9mm that could fire +p, which is a hell of alot. |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 12:00:34 PM EDT
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Any modern 9mm in good mechanical condition can handle +p |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 12:12:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Glock 17 is rated for 9mm +p+ (NATO 124 Submachine gun ammo) That stuff is HOT!! The Glock will eat it all day, spit out that lead and piss back the brass! Is the ammo labeled "NATO" 9mm the "hot" stuff? I've been wanting to try some in my G19. 9mm NATO handgun ammo isn't that high of pressure - 36,500 psi SAAMI rates 9mm +P at 38,500 psi
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Posted: 4/8/2012 12:57:00 PM EDT
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Most 9mm's can shoot +p. I would be careful with older Browning Hi Power, Walther P38, etc.
HK USP's, if I remember correctly, used to be rated for +p+ ammo, then they removed that from the manual. |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 6:43:57 PM EDT
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Walther PPQ
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Posted: 4/9/2012 1:15:44 PM EDT
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Ruger P95 gtg.
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Posted: 4/9/2012 1:50:45 PM EDT
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Any quality handgun will fire +P ammo all day long. It's really no big deal.
When I started shooting in the mid-70's 9mm range ammo was very hot compared to the weak loads today. For example, a standard range load was 124 gr. fmj at 1200 fps IIRC. Today it's about 1120 fps. for the same round. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 11:56:27 AM EDT
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OP google "9mm Major"
Look at the guns using it (hint, 75s & Glocks, plus custom 2011s). Those will be the strongest. Not so strong: P-38/M-9, BHP, etc. |
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Posted: 4/11/2012 5:05:17 AM EDT
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Even the Zamak slide Hi-Point C9 is +P rated.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 10:42:09 AM EDT
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Any modern 9mm in good mechanical condition can handle +p +1 Now lets see a list of +P+ |
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Posted: 4/11/2012 10:42:54 AM EDT
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Any modern 9mm in good mechanical condition can handle +p Diamondack specifically warns against the use of +P ammo in their guns. I dont even consider it a quality 9mm Pistol |
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Posted: 4/11/2012 10:46:16 AM EDT
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Glock 17 is rated for 9mm +p+ (NATO 124 Submachine gun ammo) That stuff is HOT!! The Glock will eat it all day, spit out that lead and piss back the brass! NATO 9mm BALL isnt = to +P+ might be close to +P |
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Posted: 4/11/2012 1:12:04 PM EDT
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Any modern 9mm in good mechanical condition can handle +p +1 Now lets see a list of +P+ Not many manufactures are going to go ahead an say "go ahead, feed it +P+" considering that +P+ isn't actually technically defined where +P is defined. Guns that I would not hesitate to use +P+ in would be: HK USP Older Sigs (changing the roll pin on the breach block in 1/4 the typical required rounds) |
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Posted: 4/14/2012 6:06:28 AM EDT
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Glock 17 is rated for 9mm +p+ (NATO 124 Submachine gun ammo) That stuff is HOT!! The Glock will eat it all day, spit out that lead and piss back the brass! NATO 9mm BALL isnt = to +P+ might be close to +P And I don't think he was calling NATO 9mm ball +P+. I think he was saying that 9mm subgun ammo was. There is a difference between the 9mm they shoot out of the m9, and the 9mm that they run through subguns. I've seen both, and the subgun ammo is rated +P+ according to the box. |
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