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Link Posted: 10/11/2023 8:43:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BobTheGreat:
Got my number yesterday as well.  42571.  

In round 3, I never got an RGN, just answered the phone one day and it was CMP.
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Got mine. 42772
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 9:07:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
42073 for me
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That's wild, I am 42072. Good luck!
Link Posted: 10/11/2023 9:15:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glynn863:


You must have been an early Round 3 (2022), because there was something about receiving one in 2023 (still Round 3 for most of the year) that made a buyer ineligible.
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Originally Posted By Glynn863:
Originally Posted By BobTheGreat:
Got my number yesterday as well.  42571.  

In round 3, I never got an RGN, just answered the phone one day and it was CMP.


You must have been an early Round 3 (2022), because there was something about receiving one in 2023 (still Round 3 for most of the year) that made a buyer ineligible.


Yes, I was early.  I sent my round 3 packet in at the start of Sept and had the gun in hand by October last year.
Link Posted: 10/12/2023 2:01:05 PM EDT
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Email on the 10th, number is 42664. The cell phone will be stuck to me like glue until I get the call.
Link Posted: 10/13/2023 10:10:51 PM EDT
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I got my rgn, 44373 a few days ago.  First cmp 1911 for me, and only my 3rd 1911 ever.  Anyone know how many guns they process a week?
Link Posted: 10/16/2023 3:17:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sf46] [#6]
I also got an e-mail on Oct. 10, for Fourth round.  My number is: 44846.  I got a nice service grade Remington-Rand in Round 1.  Any idea what number they are at now?
Link Posted: 10/16/2023 3:31:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sf46:
I also got an e-mail on Oct. 10, for Fourth round.  My number is: 44846.  I got a nice service grade Remington-Rand in Round 1.  Any idea what number they are at now?
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Think this one starts at 42k and there haven't been any called yet, maybe start in November. Believe the expectation is that they'll process about 250/week.

All available info is here, read closely before posting, especially any new topics.

https://forums.thecmp.org/forum/cmp-sales/cmp-1911
Link Posted: 10/23/2023 9:37:22 AM EDT
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Generated number:  46161
Sent the packet in 9/28
Round 2: I received a Service Grade, mostly Rem Rand 1943 - frame and slide, it is in great shape.

LDAC FOIA
The following information was found in the DoD Small Arms/Light Weapons Registry for
an M1911A1 Pistol, Caliber .45, Serial Number:

1. August 29, 1975, 21st Combat Support (CS) Headquarters and Headquarters
Company (HHC), 21st Theater Support Command (TSC) Kaiserslautern,
Germany did a beginning inventory on the weapon.
2. September 17, 1975, 21st Combat Support (CS) Headquarters and Headquarters
Company (HHC), 21st Theater Support Command (TSC) Kaiserslautern,
Germany shipped the weapon to an Army unit.
3. September 29, 1975, 21st Combat Support (CS) Headquarters and Headquarters
Company (HHC), 21st Theater Support Command (TSC) Kaiserslautern,
Germany received the weapon.
4. December 12, 1980, 21st Combat Support (CS) Headquarters and Headquarters
Company (HHC), 21st Theater Support Command (TSC) Kaiserslautern,
Germany shipped the weapon to the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston,
Alabama.
5. April 13, 1981, Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama received the
weapon from 21st Combat Support (CS) Headquarters and Headquarters
Company (HHC), 21st Theater Support Command (TSC) Kaiserslautern,
Germany.
6. March 10, 1986, Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama shipped the
weapon to United States Property Fiscal Office/Officer (USPFO) Activity KS
Army National Guard (ARNG), Topeka, Kansas.
7. March 25, 1986, USPFO Activity Kansas ARNG, Topeka, Kansas received the
weapon from Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.

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Link Posted: 10/24/2023 3:42:27 AM EDT
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RGN of 463XX.

In round 2, I ordered a service grade and received a Ithaca slide/RR frame. Shooting for a rack grade this round.


Link Posted: 10/24/2023 3:22:09 PM EDT
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Latest news - CMP is making the calls for Round 4 and all grades available at this point.
Link Posted: 10/24/2023 6:47:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mp_moody:
RGN of 463XX.

In round 2, I ordered a service grade and received a Ithaca slide/RR frame. Shooting for a rack grade this round.


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I got an Ithaca frame and RR slide in round 1!

My issue gun in 88-89 was a Colt frame and RR slide.
Link Posted: 10/24/2023 8:41:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By buchkshot1:
Latest news - CMP is making the calls for Round 4 and all grades available at this point.
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This tickles my Jimmy's....I'm not far off that number.  Of course I'm working in a building I can't have to phone on me....go fuckin figure right.
Link Posted: 10/25/2023 1:05:29 PM EDT
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42069 got called today

@Vegas19D better keep your phone nearby and not on silent broski
Link Posted: 10/25/2023 3:57:55 PM EDT
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Well I got called, 42073.  Had a choice of rack, field or service. Went with service.
Link Posted: 10/25/2023 4:05:52 PM EDT
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I was 42069. I was called by Hope today. Chose field. I have two service grades already( my 1919 colt OG rebuild from round 1and a 1945 RR with numax slide that I got from gunbroker) so hope to get something “saltier.”
Link Posted: 10/25/2023 10:07:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DennyR:
Got my RGN yesterday. 42069
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that was fast
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 12:50:11 AM EDT
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I'm number 42068


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Link Posted: 10/26/2023 8:36:36 AM EDT
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256-770-4744
This was the number they called from in round 2.
For those that need to know what number to look for when they call.
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 9:25:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By pasquale91:
256-770-4744
This was the number they called from in round 2.
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My first round call came from 256-835-5455.
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 10:04:40 AM EDT
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256-770-4744 is what I got called from yesterday.

Mine shipped today
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 10:34:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By pasquale91:
256-770-4744
This was the number they called from in round 2.
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Yep, this was the number I got the call from in round 1.
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 10:44:35 AM EDT
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I bought the high-grade and got a heavily re-parked colt with a crappy replacement slide and barrel. I was pretty pissed. The rear sight was pitted too.

A buddy ordered one for him and one for his wife, and both were way nicer than mine and had original parts.

Even on Garands I don't get anything neat. This is why I don't buy lotto tickets.
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 1:46:14 PM EDT
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Got my service grade today. 42060. Colt frame with an Ithaca slide.
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 2:26:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By snaggletooth1925:
Got my service grade today. 42060. Colt frame with an Ithaca slide.
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@snaggletooth1925 how's it look?
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 3:37:34 PM EDT
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Gave it a quick look over and it’s not bad. Sent in my FOIA as well.
Link Posted: 10/27/2023 4:02:33 PM EDT
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4216x, got called today.
Link Posted: 10/27/2023 6:10:11 PM EDT
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42069 picked up yesterday. Field grade. RR frame Colt slide. As new Flannery barrel. A better condition gun than my Round 1Service Grade Colt 1911 OG rebuild.
Link Posted: 10/29/2023 8:41:18 PM EDT
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I'm guessing 45724 means to not expect a call until well into 2024.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 12:29:02 PM EDT
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Returned their call this morning, they had all four grades available. Chose a Range grade, be interesting to see what I get.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:06:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/30/2023 6:33:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smicha6551:
I'm guessing 45724 means to not expect a call until well into 2024.
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I'm a couple hundred higher.  Guessing sixteen weeks, not counting holiday time off.  Maybe March.
Link Posted: 10/31/2023 8:08:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/31/2023 8:31:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By buchkshot1:
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Are you saying they’re calling before the cutoff(I think cutoff is today)?  As in they aren’t even doing the lottery because the demand has dried up?  

The low demand gives me pause since my rationalization was always that I could easily sell it if I didn’t like it.  Also I got an incredible gun in round 2 and I’m worried about being disappointed if I get a beat up mixmaster in round 4.  
Link Posted: 10/31/2023 9:12:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Morgan321:


Are you saying they're calling before the cutoff(I think cutoff is today)?  As in they aren't even doing the lottery because the demand has dried up?  

The low demand gives me pause since my rationalization was always that I could easily sell it if I didn't like it.  Also I got an incredible gun in round 2 and I'm worried about being disappointed if I get a beat up mixmaster in round 4.  
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Originally Posted By Morgan321:
Originally Posted By buchkshot1:
Latest news - CMP is making the calls for Round 4 and all grades available at this point.


Are you saying they're calling before the cutoff(I think cutoff is today)?  As in they aren't even doing the lottery because the demand has dried up?  

The low demand gives me pause since my rationalization was always that I could easily sell it if I didn't like it.  Also I got an incredible gun in round 2 and I'm worried about being disappointed if I get a beat up mixmaster in round 4.  

Part of the "low demand" has always been people reluctant - for whatever reason - to 'jump through hoops' to buy from the CMP.

Those with more experience can say further, but Garand limits haven't been as severe as the present 1911 limits for what? A couple of decades at least?  Yet you can still flip a CMP Garand for a couple hundred bucks at least.  And look to the M1 carbines to see what will happen when the CMP Garands finally dry up altogether.

The other part of the low demand with the 1911s is people just go nuts (not in a good way) when a replacement slide shows up.  A bunch of people don't seem to be able to bear the thought of buying a field or rack grade and finding those replacement slides on them.  That you might indeed find hard to resell - for now.  I'm thinking about trying to snag some of the 1911s with replacement slides when I can find them as received from the CMP.  I'll bet they'll be cheap; I'll bet a bunch of them will get parted out as soon as they leave the CMP; I'll bet one of these days an honest Cold War 1911a1 with replacement slide is gonna be a rare bird.

In any case, I'm going the exact opposite way.  I'm feeling lucky this round.  I missed the boat on the decommissioned M45s, so if it's available, I'm gonna roll the dice on a range grade this time and see what turns up.
Link Posted: 10/31/2023 10:34:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Polupharmakos:

I'll bet a bunch of them will get parted out as soon as they leave the CMP;
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Looking for a few parts I am seeing this now. Some ebay and GB sellers have almost every part available except the frame and they get posted with in a day of every other part. Aka get one, tear it apart and list all the parts for sale over 24 hours.
Link Posted: 10/31/2023 2:48:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pasquale91:

Field grade?
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Nope, Service Grade.  And I'll be honest that's a really accurate grading. Comparing it to my field grade it's very solidly a Service Grade.  Good chance the upper half was thrown on and it went straight into storage.  The date code on the barrel is 90, so 1990.  The TZ on the slide means it's an IMI manufactured slide. No rebuild marks on the frame so it was done at the unit/installation level.  The grip safety is an Ithaca, not sure on the thumb and slide stop, if they are they're type 1's which wouldn't be correct for mine IIRC.  Not sure on MSH.  Trigger on it is fantastic, so is the lockup and fit for a USGI gun.

Link Posted: 11/4/2023 12:43:51 AM EDT
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I sent mine in a week or so after they started accepting orders for a 4th round. Crickets. I'm hoping mine didn't get lost in the mail.

Fortunately I got in on the first round and got a nice colt/colt service grade. After seeing some of the range grades on the CMP forums I was kind of leaning that way. I'm hoping mine didn't get lost but have heard of some people not getting a rgn number and just getting a call.
Link Posted: 11/4/2023 12:57:00 AM EDT
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Where do you send your FOIA requests?
Link Posted: 11/4/2023 3:22:27 PM EDT
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[email protected]

[email protected]


"This request is for ownership history on a Remington Rand US Pistol M1911A1, Caliber .45, Automatic. Serial Number XXXXXXXX. Any and all Department of Defense, military branch of service it was assigned to, and or military unit history. I am willing to pay $25 for this service."

They don't charge a fee, but you have to be willing to pay a fee. $25 minimum.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 1:27:26 AM EDT
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Mine came in on Friday.  I chose another Service Grade and ended up with a mostly correct Oct/November '44 Colt save for the replacement barrel and grips.

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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 1:40:35 AM EDT
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There's a definite lack of pics in this thread.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:45:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Polupharmakos:

Part of the "low demand" has always been people reluctant - for whatever reason - to 'jump through hoops' to buy from the CMP.

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For me is is partly the hoops you have to jump through, but that is maybe 25% of it. The other 75% is spending $1100-$1200 on a gun that is completely sight unseen.
I am just not going to drop that kind of money on a gun I can not see and/or inspect before buying. I buy many used guns online, but at least on them I can get pictures and descriptions of what I am getting.
I do not gamble. So I do not want to buy a gun that is a hodge podge of random parts that ends up being worth less than I paid for it.
I bet that is what is happening with all the ones getting parted out. People Just hoping to recover at least some of their investment.
Heck, maybe the parts are worth more than the complete gun, as you have rich collectors who will pay top dollar for that one part to make their gun "complete/correct".
I have seen many times in the automotive and equipment world where parting something out is more profitable than selling it complete.
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 8:43:48 PM EDT
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I think it's highly unlikely that you would lose money.For Round 1 I got a Colt 6XX,XXX OG 1911 rebuild. I had a DCM Colt 1918 rebuild in the collection already. I wanted a 1911A1 for the collection (at that point there was no indication CMP would authorize a second chance for early purchasers). I looked for the cheapest,least sexy,likely CMP gun I could find on gunbroker. Came away with a 1945 Remington Rand with a Numax slide and replacement (1985) barrel. CMP confirmed that it sold as a service grade (1250.00) about 3 months before I picked it up. My cost? 1408.00. Even that plain jane piece brought 150.00 profit.



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For me is is partly the hoops you have to jump through, but that is maybe 25% of it. The other 75% is spending $1100-$1200 on a gun that is completely sight unseen.
I am just not going to drop that kind of money on a gun I can not see and/or inspect before buying. I buy many used guns online, but at least on them I can get pictures and descriptions of what I am getting.
I do not gamble. So I do not want to buy a gun that is a hodge podge of random parts that ends up being worth less than I paid for it.
I bet that is what is happening with all the ones getting parted out. People Just hoping to recover at least some of their investment.
Heck, maybe the parts are worth more than the complete gun, as you have rich collectors who will pay top dollar for that one part to make their gun "complete/correct".
I have seen many times in the automotive and equipment world where parting something out is more profitable than selling it complete.
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Link Posted: 11/7/2023 5:58:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/7/2023 7:28:08 PM EDT
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Ok I'll try to alleviate the lack of pics.

RR/GI slide bought from Gunbroker


Round 1 CMP SG 1911 Colt 612,XXX OG Rebuild


DCM 1911. 1918 Colt/RR slide


Papers for the DCM


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Link Posted: 11/7/2023 7:53:46 PM EDT
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My father and I appear to be in one of the 'bubbles' that get over looked.

RGNs 200 positions higher than ours have been called.  Hopefully we'll get a call soon.
Link Posted: 11/7/2023 8:34:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Suppo:
My father and I appear to be in one of the 'bubbles' that get over looked.

RGNs 200 positions higher than ours have been called.  Hopefully we'll get a call soon.
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Ok, so is there any idea what number they are up to now?
Link Posted: 11/7/2023 8:44:03 PM EDT
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Ok, so is there any idea what number they are up to now?
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Originally Posted By sf46:
Originally Posted By Suppo:
My father and I appear to be in one of the 'bubbles' that get over looked.

RGNs 200 positions higher than ours have been called.  Hopefully we'll get a call soon.


Ok, so is there any idea what number they are up to now?


I believe around the 42,3XX range.
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 11:53:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Suppo:
My father and I appear to be in one of the 'bubbles' that get over looked.

RGNs 200 positions higher than ours have been called.  Hopefully we'll get a call soon.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm seriously considering a Range Grade this time.
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 12:17:30 PM EDT
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I believe around the 42,3XX range.
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I'm about 3500 out.  Maybe 14 weeks, then add in Christmas and such, 16 weeks.   Late February, early March.
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