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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:44:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bullet_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: That's lower than expected. I ordered one; I have a couple Girsans and an orginal Inglis. I took delivery today. Nicely executed. It does NOT have the mag safety installed. The front sight is NOT centered; but I won't move it until I have had a chance to see where it hits. The lanyard ring would make left hand shooting a bit of a pain, I think. Sights are clean; but I prefer a bit more air beside the front sight when aiming; old eyes and all. It's a Mk3, but it does have the large visible oval pin/cross lug, unlike the other Turkish GP35s I have seen. The serial number is stamped across the lug, which seems odd. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35784/hipower2_jpg-3184283.JPG The other Turkish gun maker, not Tisas or Girsan. Usually distributed under SAR USA. Sar makes really good CZ 75 clones. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 11:37:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_: That serial number is distinctly Sarsilmaz. The other Turkish gun maker, not Tisas or Girsan. Usually distributed under SAR USA. Sar makes really good CZ 75 clones. The K2-45 is great. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 12:02:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_: That serial number is distinctly Sarsilmaz. The other Turkish gun maker, not Tisas or Girsan. Usually distributed under SAR USA. Sar makes really good CZ 75 clones. Is it a different Sarsilmaz factory? The SAR guns have a T1102 factory code, these Inglis guns are TK817. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 12:19:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Is it a different Sarsilmaz factory? The SAR guns have a T1102 factory code, these Inglis guns are TK817.  |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 12:26:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_: I thought the first part of the code was for the company who ordered it, after the dash was the production number. So the "Txxxx" should tell you what factory it was made in. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:15:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: The K2-45 is great. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: Originally Posted By Bullet_: That serial number is distinctly Sarsilmaz. The other Turkish gun maker, not Tisas or Girsan. Usually distributed under SAR USA. Sar makes really good CZ 75 clones. The K2-45 is great. It's heavier than heck. Shoots well though. I have the k2 45 and k12 9mm. Neet to know about the manufacturer codes. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:31:46 PM EDT
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I was wrong, mine does not have the INGLIS in a diamond on the slide.
Left side of slide is marked "L9A1", right side is blank. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:50:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cbsaf]
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These are super clean and not the walking billboard that the Girsan models are.
The left side of mine has no markings other than a small L9A1 on the slide. The right side has nothing other than the serial and Knoxville TN marking on the frame. The bottom of the slide front has the serial number as well. No magazine safety. No weird ramped front sights or Novak rears. If it was beat to hell and you told me it was 30 years old I would believe you. It’s a well done clone. No warnings or any of that stuff on it.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 9:54:09 PM EDT
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Is the lanyard ring removable?
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Posted: 4/13/2024 9:58:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJR576: Is the lanyard ring removable? It looks like the stud can be driven out with a punch. Or you could cut the ring itself off and leave the stud. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:10:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cbsaf]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJR576: Is the lanyard ring removable? Mine will not swivel nor unscrew. It looks like if you wanted it out it could easily be drilled out and a regular grip would cover the frame hole. It’s just a press fit that goes in a hole through the frame. Removing it would be super simple. The right side grip already covers the hole on the other side.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 6:32:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ohio]
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Disregard, I screwed up. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 6:55:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: The Inglis has the oval pin that engages the barrel lug, while the Girsan has a round pin. The barrel lugs match their respective pins. The barrels do not interchange between the two guns I have tried it on, the slide stops won't go in. Can you post some pictures? I'm not doubting you. We've both been here long enough to know that there is always a variation, or a sub-type, in the gun world that is out of the typical. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:19:57 PM EDT
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I removed my lanyard ring today. It was a simple press fit. No threads. It came out by “unscrewing it” but is still tight enough it would need to be pressed back in.
I ordered a basic set of plastic Browning grips to cover the hole. It didn’t even leave a mark.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:31:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ohio]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_: This is interesting. I've never heard of, or seen a oval slide stop pin. Can you post some pictures? I'm not doubting you. We've both been here long enough to know that there is always a variation, or a sub-type, in the gun world that is out of the typical. OK, I took them apart again and the barrels are the same. I don't know why they won't swap. If I swap barrels or slides the slide stop won't go in one of them |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:41:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: Disregard, I screwed up.  |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:55:52 PM EDT
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I also noticed the mags are marked "Made in Italy" so I'm going to presume they're Mec-Gar made mags.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:58:49 PM EDT
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So, has anyone actually confirmed for sure that these are being made by Sarsilmaz ?
If so, does that mean SDS Imports is now a Sarsilmaz importer in addition to their Tisas offerings ? @SDSImports -- how about some confirmation on these points - you did start this thread after all. 
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:10:16 PM EDT
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Tisas is the importer of their 1911s. ZIG is the manufacturer listed on the frame of the Tisas 1911s.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:13:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: OK, I took them apart again and the barrels are the same. I don't know why they won't swap. If I swap barrels or slides the slide stop won't go in one of them If not different in two axis. Do you have a vernier caliper? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:13:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By osprey21: I also noticed the mags are marked "Made in Italy" so I'm going to presume they're Mec-Gar made mags. I have MecGar mags for the HP: they are absolutely identical to the Inglis ones except for the markings. That's my bet. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:18:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_: That sounds like the SS are a different diameter, at least. If not different in two axis. Do you have a vernier caliper? The main shaft measures 1940 on the Inglis, 1925 on the Girsan. Narrow section on the tip is 1595 Inglis and 1535 on the Girsan. There you go. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:16:47 PM EDT
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Awesome!
Thanks Ohio.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:24:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: I have MecGar mags for the HP: they are absolutely identical to the Inglis ones except for the markings. That's my bet. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:24:19 PM EDT
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The INGLIS guns are not Tisas or Sarz... We stood up another mfg in turkey to handle production of these..
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:18:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDSImports: The INGLIS guns are not Tisas or Sarz... We stood up another mfg in turkey to handle production of these.. Özerbaş Makina, right? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:48:53 PM EDT
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Can you tell us about ZIG and how/why Tisas is the importer?
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:11:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDSImports: The INGLIS guns are not Tisas or Sarz... We stood up another mfg in turkey to handle production of these.. @SDSImports Well, that's part of the answer, thank you. So, since we now know that it isn't Tisas or Sarz, how about sharing with us who the manufacturer is.... Is it Özerbaş Makina ? I really don't understand the apparent secrecy about who makes these Inglis pistols. 
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:14:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pctech: @SDSImports Well, that's part of the answer, thank you. So, since we now know that it isn't Tisas or Sarz, how about sharing with us who the manufacturer is.... Is it Özerbaş Makina ? I really don't understand the apparent secrecy about who makes these Inglis pistols. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pctech: Originally Posted By SDSImports: The INGLIS guns are not Tisas or Sarz... We stood up another mfg in turkey to handle production of these.. @SDSImports Well, that's part of the answer, thank you. So, since we now know that it isn't Tisas or Sarz, how about sharing with us who the manufacturer is.... Is it Özerbaş Makina ? I really don't understand the apparent secrecy about who makes these Inglis pistols. Maybe b/c Girsan has already been selling a HiPower copy? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:41:44 PM EDT
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Ours came in yesterday and I have to say we are Impressed so far.
Good trigger and a tactile reset. Fit and finish great !! Great Hi Power clone so far. Will follow up after I go to the range next week. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 5:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSflyer: Ours came in yesterday and I have to say we are Impressed so far. Good trigger and a tactile reset. Fit and finish great !! Great Hi Power clone so far. Will follow up after I go to the range next week. Is your front sight loose? Mine was. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:27:16 AM EDT
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This is what marked on the barrel. OZERBAS, the Turkish shotgun maker.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:07:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: Is your front sight loose? Mine was. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ohio: Originally Posted By EMSflyer: Ours came in yesterday and I have to say we are Impressed so far. Good trigger and a tactile reset. Fit and finish great !! Great Hi Power clone so far. Will follow up after I go to the range next week. Is your front sight loose? Mine was. I don't think so, will check when I get home. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:09:26 PM EDT
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sort of want just since k-town is hometown
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:00:23 AM EDT
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My front sight is secure.
Will check it again after I shoot it in a few days. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 12:58:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSflyer: My front sight is secure. Will check it again after I shoot it in a few days. Cool. Mine was off center and could be moved by hand. I replaced it with a fiber optic, which I had planned to do anyway. My eyes are old and astigmatism makes focus on a front sight tough. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 1:06:26 PM EDT
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OK, new issue I would like some input on, if anyone can.
On my Inglis the hammer is digging into the slide where the firing pin safety is. Anyone ever see that before? I wonder if it's a huge problem, and what is out of spec.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:00:29 AM EDT
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Took mine shooting yesterday.
Ran 100% using Federal 124 FMJ. Also a small random sample of JHPs including Winchester 147, Winchester 124 PDX1 +P and Sig 124 +P. The Hi-Power seemed to cycle all that just as smoothly as the FMJ. It was really a pleasure to shoot and I enjoyed it a lot. You will need a slightly lower grip than with other pistols so you don't bump the slide strop. I may take a sharpie and black out the white markings on the rear sight. Might look around for a tritium or brass bead front sight. I guess that's a standard Mk.III Hi-Power front sight dovetail? Anyone know? Once I run some more ammo through it I might even carry it once and a while. It's a keeper so far. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:32:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ohio]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSflyer: I may take a sharpie and black out the white markings on the rear sight. Might look around for a tritium or brass bead front sight. I guess that's a standard Mk.III Hi-Power front sight dovetail? Anyone know? Once I run some more ammo through it I might even carry it once and a while. It's a keeper so far. Mine accepted a Dawson front sight for the Mk III after some sanding on the base and edges. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:20:27 PM EDT
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Thanks !!
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:23:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSflyer: Thanks !! I figured someone had to take the risk. It paid off. You're welcome! |
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