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Posted: 3/26/2023 5:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MONGO45: Fixed... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86935/E0EF198D-34C0-474A-BBE0-AA6E95E9A9CB_jpe-2754733.JPG could be GrovTec - https://grovtec.com/products/hollow-stock-push-button-base-gthm198-coming-soon but likely Noveske - https://noveske.com/products/flush-qd-sling-mount/ |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2023 7:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smitty357: could be GrovTec - https://grovtec.com/products/hollow-stock-push-button-base-gthm198-coming-soon but likely Noveske - https://noveske.com/products/flush-qd-sling-mount/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smitty357: Originally Posted By MONGO45: Fixed... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86935/E0EF198D-34C0-474A-BBE0-AA6E95E9A9CB_jpe-2754733.JPG could be GrovTec - https://grovtec.com/products/hollow-stock-push-button-base-gthm198-coming-soon but likely Noveske - https://noveske.com/products/flush-qd-sling-mount/ Both are a different design. What’s the advantage of each of them? I saw one on a YouTube video and it had claws that dug into the stock once it was installed. I wonder if over time of it would crack the stock? |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2023 3:38:35 PM EDT
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I’ll be all over one of these if a 1301 sight can be swapped in
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Posted: 3/27/2023 3:59:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kwb377]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smitty357: could be GrovTec - https://grovtec.com/products/hollow-stock-push-button-base-gthm198-coming-soon but likely Noveske - https://noveske.com/products/flush-qd-sling-mount/ I've installed both on various stocks...I prefer the Grovtec. The GT has an internal hex that allows use of an Allen wrench to tighten...with the Noveske you use a sling swivel and the anti-rotation slots to hold it while you screw it in. The flange around the Noveske mount (see area circled in the pic) is also much thinner than the GT...I cracked one by snugging it down just a little too tight. However, I do like the anti-rotation of the Noveske better.  |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 4:12:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kwb377: I've installed both on various stocks...I prefer the Grovtec. The GT has an internal hex that allows use of an Allen wrench to tighten...with the Noveske you use a sling swivel and the anti-rotation slots to hold it while you screw it in. The flange around the Noveske mount (see area circled in the pic) is also much thinner than the GT...I cracked one by snugging it down just a little too tight. Hover, I do like the anti-rotation of the Noveske better. https://a4.pbase.com/g13/07/240307/2/173498748.5b31f916.JPEG +1 I went with Grovtec because of the more robust material/attachment. The lack of anti-rotation points for the swivel was not a deal breaker for me in the use case of a traditional fixed stock shotgun. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 10:30:30 PM EDT
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Local gun shop had 2 1301 in stock. They were right beside the benelli M2 &M4.
The 1301 felt superior. And that comes from a Benelli fanboy and someone who hates beretta due to crappy CS. I’ll be buying one.  Attached File |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2023 10:45:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kwb377: I've installed both on various stocks...I prefer the Grovtec. The GT has an internal hex that allows use of an Allen wrench to tighten...with the Noveske you use a sling swivel and the anti-rotation slots to hold it while you screw it in. The flange around the Noveske mount (see area circled in the pic) is also much thinner than the GT...I cracked one by snugging it down just a little too tight. However, I do like the anti-rotation of the Noveske better. https://a4.pbase.com/g13/07/240307/2/173498748.5b31f916.JPEG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kwb377: I've installed both on various stocks...I prefer the Grovtec. The GT has an internal hex that allows use of an Allen wrench to tighten...with the Noveske you use a sling swivel and the anti-rotation slots to hold it while you screw it in. The flange around the Noveske mount (see area circled in the pic) is also much thinner than the GT...I cracked one by snugging it down just a little too tight. However, I do like the anti-rotation of the Noveske better. https://a4.pbase.com/g13/07/240307/2/173498748.5b31f916.JPEG Thank you. I think I will go Grovtec. I think that one caught my eye when you posted the link due to the design. Originally Posted By 55Kingpin: Originally Posted By kwb377: I've installed both on various stocks...I prefer the Grovtec. The GT has an internal hex that allows use of an Allen wrench to tighten...with the Noveske you use a sling swivel and the anti-rotation slots to hold it while you screw it in. The flange around the Noveske mount (see area circled in the pic) is also much thinner than the GT...I cracked one by snugging it down just a little too tight. Hover, I do like the anti-rotation of the Noveske better. https://a4.pbase.com/g13/07/240307/2/173498748.5b31f916.JPEG +1 I went with Grovtec because of the more robust material/attachment. The lack of anti-rotation points for the swivel was not a deal breaker for me in the use case of a traditional fixed stock shotgun. Thank you. Anti-rotation is also not a deal break for me. I think I like the way the GrovTec attaches and locks in place. |
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Posted: 3/28/2023 7:16:56 AM EDT
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 Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol: Underwhelming, The 1301 We Have at Home |
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Posted: 3/28/2023 8:58:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Local gun shop had 2 1301 in stock. They were right beside the benelli M2 &M4. The 1301 felt superior. And that comes from a Benelli fanboy and someone who hates beretta due to crappy CS. I’ll be buying one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/73A5ACE0-4C04-4113-904A-C992F5308531_jpe-2761306.JPG I had buyers remorse the moment I walked out of the shop with the A300, knowing I should have sucked up the extra $650 and got the 1301. Took it home set it on top of the safe still in the box and thought about it for a week. Took it back today and exchanged it the 1301, coincidentally it’s was the exact same price as the one in the pic. |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 9:31:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TACTICAL: I had buyers remorse the moment I walked out of the shop with the A300, knowing I should have sucked up the extra $650 and got the 1301. Took it home set it on top of the safe still in the box and thought about it for a week. Took it back today and exchanged it the 1301, coincidentally it’s was the exact same price as the one in the pic. What differences between the two pushed you to the 1301? I've got a 1301 but haven't been able to handle the A300 yet...but was thinking of selling my 1301 and buying the Patrol and pocketing the difference. I just figured there wouldn't be enough functional/performance difference between the two for me to notice. |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 10:39:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kwb377: What differences between the two pushed you to the 1301? I've got a 1301 but haven't been able to handle the A300 yet...but was thinking of selling my 1301 and buying the Patrol and pocketing the difference. I just figured there wouldn't be enough functional/performance difference between the two for me to notice. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kwb377: Originally Posted By TACTICAL: I had buyers remorse the moment I walked out of the shop with the A300, knowing I should have sucked up the extra $650 and got the 1301. Took it home set it on top of the safe still in the box and thought about it for a week. Took it back today and exchanged it the 1301, coincidentally it’s was the exact same price as the one in the pic. What differences between the two pushed you to the 1301? I've got a 1301 but haven't been able to handle the A300 yet...but was thinking of selling my 1301 and buying the Patrol and pocketing the difference. I just figured there wouldn't be enough functional/performance difference between the two for me to notice. I wanted the 1301 to begin with, but decided to save the few bucks and get the A300. I never shot it, so I can’t comment on function. The post here about the tube spring and read a couple others about QC issues, not a fan of the aggressive texture of the grips and then that no pistol grip stock was available really just instilled the feeling I should have ponied up the extra and got the 1301. |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 4:54:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marksman14: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6045/710E8D48-A50B-4B6F-9BBB-217E4CD0922A_jpe-2757524.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6045/F9EA8CE2-95CB-4E35-A3F6-53BE95A54DE4_jpe-2757525.JPG That’s as far as the factory spring protrudes past the tube with the cap off. I find it very hard to believe that’s proper, considering Nordic says their springs should extend a foot or more past the tube….. There is a shockingly little amount of pressure on the follower or the last shell in the tube. This definitely doesn’t seem right. Thoughts? Got a chance to finally clean up my Patrol last night in prep to get to the range this weekend. My spring is the same and very anemic. Going to order a NC spring. |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 6:02:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlympicArmsFan: Same. More info. I think o have seen a couple videos of this but not sure it’s the same product. Any problems installing it or it backing out once installed? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlympicArmsFan: Originally Posted By MONGO45: Fixed... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86935/E0EF198D-34C0-474A-BBE0-AA6E95E9A9CB_jpe-2754733.JPG Originally Posted By Propblast: Originally Posted By MONGO45: Fixed... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86935/E0EF198D-34C0-474A-BBE0-AA6E95E9A9CB_jpe-2754733.JPG Details on manufacture and installation please. Thanks that is super clean looking! Same. More info. I think o have seen a couple videos of this but not sure it’s the same product. Any problems installing it or it backing out once installed? Noveske QD socket Took the buttpad off and triple checked placement before marking it with marker Drilled it with 1/2" drill and installed it. It uses a locking QD so I just started the threads and then put a QD in it to tighten things down. Super simple 5 minute job if that.... very solid |
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USA
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Posted: 3/29/2023 10:06:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TACTICAL: I wanted the 1301 to begin with, but decided to save the few bucks and get the A300. I never shot it, so I can’t comment on function. The post here about the tube spring and read a couple others about QC issues, not a fan of the aggressive texture of the grips and then that no pistol grip stock was available really just instilled the feeling I should have ponied up the extra and got the 1301. Got my A300 to the range past weekend, yes I agreed on the texture. Although this can be solved by wearing gloves. I didn't clean it before putting 35 slugs ( low recoil and regular 1600 FPS), no issue however. I also have 1301 but it's currently unfired. I installed Mesa pistol grip stock on and it feels nice. However, I probably will end up trading (or selling) it for something else, since the A300 is just as nice. I am sure someone will come out with Pistol grip stock eventually, but it's really not a deal breaker for me. |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 10:20:15 PM EDT
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One of my LGS tried to tell me he could order one, but it would be $1600 because they're only making 300 of them.
Dude is an asshole. |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 10:39:59 PM EDT
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Did the same along with a little epoxy on then threads so it's permanent. Added a rds, light and sling and it's handled several hundered rounds of everything from birdshot to 00 buck to slugs without an issue.
Dig it overall thus far, no regerets over the 1301. Especially like the Mlok slots on the handguard, the qd on the barrel clamp and the agressive texturing. It all just feels....right. |
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Posted: 3/31/2023 9:58:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dissident: Got a chance to finally clean up my Patrol last night in prep to get to the range this weekend. My spring is the same and very anemic. Going to order a NC spring. Yikes. Not good. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2023 2:32:57 PM EDT
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Just picked up a tiger stripe I ordered back in January after being told 3 days ago that I wouldn't see it for a other 60 days. Figures that the only 12ga my LGS has in stock are snap caps. . . first world problems.
Finish looks great. |
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Posted: 4/6/2023 11:06:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/7/2023 6:00:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI have had a 1301 for almost a decade now, and don't have any intent to buy a A300. But that video is like someone told the guy "I need 12 complaints, no matter how irrelevant or immaterial." |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 7:18:38 PM EDT
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Add me to the owners list, picked one up today. I was going to get a Benelli M2 tactical but with the limited use this gun will see I decided to save the $400 and go with the A300. I'll try to get it out tomorrow and shoot a few rounds through it.
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Posted: 4/9/2023 2:46:23 PM EDT
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 Got the CROM mounted up. It's pretty nice. I also ended up switching out the anemic OEM magazine tube spring for a Nordic. |
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Posted: 4/9/2023 4:07:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gunner76]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckeye67: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173473/PXL_20230409_174442191_PORTRAIT_2-2776415.jpg Got the CROM mounted up. It's pretty nice. I also ended up switching out the anemic OEM magazine tube spring for a Nordic. Looks good. I'm going to probably have to do something with the plastic rear sight. Does the stock front sight work with this rear? Also, did you go with the standard or HD mag tube spring? @Buckeye67 |
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USA
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Posted: 4/9/2023 5:36:45 PM EDT
[#24]
I just bought one as well.
Seems like these things are impossible to get now. Would be nice to start a new thread with A300 builds as I think this shotgun is going to be widely welcomed and I see the aftermarket really picking up for this gun. |
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Posted: 4/9/2023 10:55:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunner76: Looks good. I'm going to probably have to do something with the plastic rear sight. Does the stock front sight work with this rear? Also, did you go with the standard or HD mag tube spring? @Buckeye67 @gunner76 As far as I know, the front/rear should work well together. I'll be getting to the range soon, so I'll confirmed that for everyone. I just bought the standard spring. The info that came with it said to cut it 14"-16" for semi-auto guns, so I cut it to 14" (the OEM spring was about 6" past the mag tube). It's obviously stronger, but still easy enough to load. No trouble loading 7 2.75" shells into the tube with the new spring. |
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Posted: 4/10/2023 11:45:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckeye67: @gunner76 As far as I know, the front/rear should work well together. I'll be getting to the range soon, so I'll confirmed that for everyone. I just bought the standard spring. The info that came with it said to cut it 14"-16" for semi-auto guns, so I cut it to 14" (the OEM spring was about 6" past the mag tube). It's obviously stronger, but still easy enough to load. No trouble loading 7 2.75" shells into the tube with the new spring. This was my experience as well. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 1:50:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joker2041: I just bought one as well. Seems like these things are impossible to get now. Would be nice to start a new thread with A300 builds as I think this shotgun is going to be widely welcomed and I see the aftermarket really picking up for this gun. Still in stock at Bereli, I just picked up a 1301 tactical from them with no problems. I like it so much I am seriously considering adding an A300 patrol as well. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 3:02:58 PM EDT
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Can you add a mag tube extension (1301 parts?) for additional capacity? (Yeah, I know the longer tube would stick out past the end of the barrel)
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Posted: 4/16/2023 1:16:44 PM EDT
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  Got the Grovtec QD mount installed last night. It was pretty easy, even for a clutz like me. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 11:09:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckeye67: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173473/PXL_20230416_170801456_PORTRAIT-2784852.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173473/PXL_20230416_170709785_PORTRAIT_ORIGINAL-2784845.jpg Got the Grovtec QD mount installed last night. It was pretty easy, even for a clutz like me. Looks good |
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2023 8:01:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckeye67: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173473/PXL_20230416_170801456_PORTRAIT-2784852.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173473/PXL_20230416_170709785_PORTRAIT_ORIGINAL-2784845.jpg Got the Grovtec QD mount installed last night. It was pretty easy, even for a clutz like me. What sling are you going to run? |
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Posted: 4/18/2023 10:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joker2041: What sling are you going to run? I have a sling from WPS on the way to try out. I've always used a VCAS on my rifles, but the WPS sling looks like an interesting design. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/20/2023 6:55:04 PM EDT
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just grabbed a black one at my LGS. They are selling like hot cakes. Was the last one.
Now to outfit it 
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2023 2:26:48 PM EDT
[#34]
where did you guys order the velcro strip for the side saddle ?
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:20:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ImpacTT: where did you guys order the velcro strip for the side saddle ? The gun comes with the Velcro strip cut for the side of the receiver. The cards to hold the shells I ordered directly from ESSTAC. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2023 5:15:12 PM EDT
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Finally got mine (ordered through my LGS) after waiting 2 months... They ordered 3 and it was the only one to show up. Haven't put anything through it yet but I have zero complaints about the initial fit, finish or design.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2023 1:29:53 PM EDT
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hopefully someone will come out with a revised magazine extension cap and barrel clamp.
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2023 3:44:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BoomToob: hopefully someone will come out with a revised magazine extension cap and barrel clamp. Nordic Components for sure. Once Garand Thumb's video comes out, the A300 will sell out quick. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2023 5:26:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ImpacTT: Nordic Components for sure. Once Garand Thumb's video comes out, the A300 will sell out quick. That would be nice. Get rid of all that plastic up front. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2023 6:12:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thezman]
[#40]
If the mag cap and clamp are the same on the 300 Patrol as the 1301 Tac, GG&G makes an aluminum version of both.
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2023 6:18:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2023 10:01:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BoomToob: hopefully someone will come out with a revised magazine extension cap and barrel clamp. Is the factory mag tube as long as the barrel? ...Or does the mag tube end in at the front of the forearm then have an extension screwed onto the end of the mag tube? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2023 11:27:38 PM EDT
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Bought one yesterday and put 100 various rounds through it this afternoon. Everything from 1oz dove loads to 2oz Federal turkey loads. It ran 100%, I was a little concerned if it would run right with Federal 8 pellet low recoil 00 but it ate them up like candy.
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Posted: 4/29/2023 3:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunCat: Is the factory mag tube as long as the barrel? ...Or does the mag tube end in at the front of the forearm then have an extension screwed onto the end of the mag tube? The mag tube is as long as the barrel. The plastic screw on piece functions as the barrel nut and a cover for the mag tube. |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 6:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunner76: The mag tube is as long as the barrel. The plastic screw on piece functions as the barrel nut and a cover for the mag tube. Thanks for the confirmation So... a standard 1301 magazine extension is NOT going to work on the A300 |
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2023 6:35:23 PM EDT
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2023 7:15:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunCat: Thanks for the confirmation So... a standard 1301 magazine extension is NOT going to work on the A300 Correct. The part you see on the a300 patrol is a plastic “shroud” that covers the thin walled full length mag tube underneath. Then the equally plastic-y barrel clamp. I’m hoping for a upgraded “shroud” made of aluminum or some such nonsense, and a more rigid barrel clamp. |
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Posted: 4/30/2023 6:13:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AK-12]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BoomToob: Correct. The part you see on the a300 patrol is a plastic “shroud” that covers the thin walled full length mag tube underneath. Then the equally plastic-y barrel clamp. I’m hoping for a upgraded “shroud” made of aluminum or some such nonsense, and a more rigid barrel clamp. As thezman mentioned above, I have this on my 1301; I believe the clamp and tube cover are the same for the A300 Ultima Patrol. There isn't any noticeable weight difference, but the new clamp is much less bulky which is nice, and it is much more secure that the original plastic one when fastened to the torque spec in the directions. The cover is about the same as the stock plastic one dimensionally, but has a turned down journal for the clamp so it can't slide back and forth. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2023 7:20:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: As thezman mentioned above, I have this on my 1301; I believe the clamp and tube cover are the same for the A300 Ultima Patrol. There isn't any noticeable weight difference, but the new clamp is much less bulky which is nice, and it is much more secure that the original plastic one when fastened to the torque spec in the directions. The cover is about the same as the stock plastic one dimensionally, but has a turned down journal for the clamp so it can't slide back and forth. Hmm, I didn’t realize there was a model of 1301 that utilized a similar system. That does look like it would work. If it’s not too much to ask, snap some pics for us the next time you have it apart and I’ll order one immediately. |
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Posted: 4/30/2023 7:42:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BoomToob: Hmm, I didn’t realize there was a model of 1301 that utilized a similar system. That does look like it would work. If it’s not too much to ask, snap some pics for us the next time you have it apart and I’ll order one immediately. I'll try and do that when I get home this afternoon. FWIW I'm referring to the newer models of 1301 with the 7 shot tube from the factory that look like they use the same clamp and tube cover. |
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