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Posted: 9/1/2017 8:46:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shadycoh:
just remember every time you call and ask they move your forum down 2" in the pile. |
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Posted: 9/1/2017 8:54:10 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAutoHound:
speaking up about a subject you know nothing about. Seems intelligent. Not being able to see a scenario where shit happens, especially when PayPal is involved, means you haven't used PayPal long enough. It's at 50 and it's going to stay at 50 since I'll no longer do any business on boards with certain mods here. Gotta love the clowns that look at every other thing but the thread topic and try to speak about it like it matters. Yeah, my feedback score has anything to do with how long the ATF takes to process our rights.  . Way to look real intelligent. . Always someones fault but your own.
The MOD made you send a payment then turn around and take it back? Sounds like a welch to me. |
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Posted: 9/1/2017 8:57:38 AM EDT
[#3]
I get it for someone waiting on their first stamp, but after that you know the deal, could be a month could be 18 months
You've dealt with other mediocre government services your whole life.. DMV, post office, road construction, etc.. There shouldn't be so many "I am shocked its taking this long" posts |
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Posted: 9/1/2017 10:26:30 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrawdadsRevenge:
I agree the whining is dumb, but we absolutely need a thread dedicated to it so that it isn't EVERYWHERE else. I'm so sick of seeing people spam the timeline threads with their bellyaching and the "nfa wait" emote. Waiting sucks, we get it. Forget needing to be "tech"...y'all have at it as far as I'm concerned. Just keep it ALL in this thread. 
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Posted: 9/1/2017 5:28:08 PM EDT
[#5]
How long until your FFL contacted you from the time the suppressor showed up there?
Mine was delivered a week ago according to UPS, still no call from the dealer. I've called at least 3 times now, have been to the store in person, nothing. I want to get this retarded mongoloid idiotic BS process started and done with ASAP like the rest, and not wait on things we CAN control like this. In Europe, I just handed my buddy 400 euros for a new in box Ase Ultra Jet CQB, no regulations on it at all. Sold it to another friend the same way. |
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Posted: 9/1/2017 10:56:53 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRRPF52:
How long until your FFL contacted you from the time the suppressor showed up there? |
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USA
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Posted: 9/2/2017 1:30:58 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By timkel:
Do you think he/she cares how long you have to wait? https://s5.postimg.org/mljtpyupz/govies_ATFforms002.jpg As far as the guys bitching about my bitching (if the irony isn't enough) don't coke into the thread. Lol. Pretty simple. And I made the thread because I followed the rules on the new wait time thread. I don't have an approved stamp so I didn't say fuck it, I don't care what the rule is, I'm going to bitch in this thread. Man, tough crowd. Follow the rules and still get whiners whining about my whining  
As far as knowing the wait time, of course I knew it was going to be a wait. That doesn't make it right. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. And I know bitching here won't fix it but I asked before about bitching to my reps but some of you cautioned against it because the atf might go into high school tantrum mode and "lose" my info. I know it's a shit sandwich for everyone involved including the examiners but it's bullshit and needs to be fixed. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/2/2017 1:45:41 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flashbag:
It sure does show a lot about your character, And I like the part how it's the MOD's fault . Always someones fault but your own.
The MOD made you send a payment then turn around and take it back? Sounds like a welch to me. According to the guy who I bought from, he informed the mod it was a PayPal fuck up because I showed him all the details and the mod didn't fix it. I can't be sure but it might be the same mod who had the nerve to fuck up a sale because he spoke with the seller of an item and not me to get the details and the pics of the money order and tracking number I sent when I paid the guy who I had the issue with. You know, mod. As in moderate between two parties. He spoke with the seller and not me which means he failed and fucked me out if a deal which is why my "feedback" is incorrect and will stay that way because ill never do another deal here with the mods in EE who act like that. But congrats. Now you know stuff that was none of your business. It was worth it to make you look dumb though. That's typically what happens when you run your mouth about stuff your ignorant about. Most people figure that out in their twenties. And quite frankly the second someone says problem and PayPal I always believe them over PayPal. To anyone who thinks loosing thousands won't happen to you.....I thought that too. For years and years. Then I found out the hard way. PSA. You're a complete and utter fool if you use PayPal. Period. They had $2400 of my money for 27 days yet my account still showed -$2400 and they didn't believe they got paid even though it WAS THEM who took the money out if my account on their own without my permission and I had to fax them my bank statement showing the $2400 they took and it still said -$2400 after 27 days. It probably still does. I had my bank take the money back and I've washed my hands of them. On day 8 or 9, after 5 phone calls, they actually admitted to me their system had a problem and wasn't showing correct account balances. No shit. I was told it would fix itself soon. Never did. PayPal is a total joke. Don't think you're safe with some of the others. PayPal owns some of them. Venmo is one I believe. |
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Posted: 9/2/2017 2:14:27 AM EDT
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So, how about the guy in the Form 1 wait times. How long did it take you? thread who just got his stamp on an April 2017 form 1?
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Posted: 9/2/2017 6:54:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BigMan74]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flashbag:
It sure does show a lot about your character, And I like the part how it's the MOD's fault . Always someones fault but your own.
The MOD made you send a payment then turn around and take it back? Sounds like a welch to me. Just remember, you are the guy who called out Aim Surplus for "improper" staking and packaging on a TiN BCG and got torn to shreds about it in their industry forum... yeah op, think before you speak, maybe you are the one that needs to take a step back and not run your mouth all the time.... Not a sermon, just a thought 
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Posted: 9/2/2017 9:58:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: flashbag]
[#11]
Again you blame the MOD and paypal, always someone but you huh. And I don't need lessons from you on how the EE runs, Think my feedback says that.
You on the other hand is what this site does not need " A whelcher that can not even contribute to the site and get a membership". But you sure can complain and cry about everything, bet momma is proud off the snowflake she has made  .
That's all I got to say I'm not getting in a pissing match with you. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 9/2/2017 1:19:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Strikefirst]
[#12]
Yep
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Posted: 9/3/2017 10:56:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Is this what the post 41F freestyle thread turned into? Or do I need new glasses?
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Posted: 9/3/2017 11:17:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By moose-hunter:
Is this what the post 41F freestyle thread turned into? Or do I need new glasses? All the rambling, complaining, whatever needs to be corralled into here. All the other threads are Day at tracking only. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 12:19:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Yes. All the rambling, complaining, whatever needs to be corralled into here. All the other threads are Day at tracking only. Wow... I guess the old thread hit the skids in a big way. I kind of enjoyed the "chit chat"... But the bitching and whining??!! Not so much. I have a 9/16 submission and will post in the REAL post 41F thread as soon as hell freezes over and I receive my stamp. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 4:57:10 AM EDT
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My only gripe about my current transfer is using the Silencer Shop kiosk. On 10/7 I registered, finger printed, the works. Bought the stamp, finalized everything in store. It took an hour but I was amazed at the process. 10/8 I get an email saying "Thank you for your order". I was sure everything was done at that point. On 11/4 I get an email saying my documents were ready for me to sign. ????? I was sure I took care of everything in store as this is a pretty big retail location for high end items including cans. I log onto the site and sure enough, I have to 'docusign' my form. Really? A month after I paid for the stamp and paperwork? Late that month I got the 'check cashed' notification. I had thought the kiosk would have been a faster process than me getting my own prints and mailing the forms in. Had I know I was going to lose a month I would have done it the normal way. I knew the ATF wait was going to be a while judging by the mountains of boxes of forms SS was posting across the web. I didn't realize the kiosk was going to prolong the wait. Maybe it's not as disjointed now as it was back then. Maybe my experience was an anomaly. It's almost like sending a money order for your dream guitar priority mail only to get it back a week later because the post office ignored the huge 'send to' address and returned it to the microscopic 'from' address.
That said I will use SS in the future because I'm already in their system and it will save me some driving. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2017 1:12:54 PM EDT
[#17]
Has anyone seen a single post 41 form 1 or form 4 TRUST approval?? I am not sure if I have seen a single one yet! I am seeing 2017 individual submissions coming back approved but I don't think I have seen any trust approvals. :(
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Posted: 9/4/2017 2:46:13 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBadGuy2:
Has anyone seen a single post 41 form 1 or form 4 TRUST approval?? I am not sure if I have seen a single one yet! I am seeing 2017 individual submissions coming back approved but I don't think I have seen any trust approvals. :( |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 3:07:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ipsilateral_7]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
My only gripe about my current transfer is using the Silencer Shop kiosk. On 10/7 I registered, finger printed, the works. Bought the stamp, finalized everything in store. It took an hour but I was amazed at the process. 10/8 I get an email saying "Thank you for your order". I was sure everything was done at that point. On 11/4 I get an email saying my documents were ready for me to sign. ????? I was sure I took care of everything in store as this is a pretty big retail location for high end items including cans. I log onto the site and sure enough, I have to 'docusign' my form. Really? A month after I paid for the stamp and paperwork? Late that month I got the 'check cashed' notification. I had thought the kiosk would have been a faster process than me getting my own prints and mailing the forms in. Had I know I was going to lose a month I would have done it the normal way. I knew the ATF wait was going to be a while judging by the mountains of boxes of forms SS was posting across the web. I didn't realize the kiosk was going to prolong the wait. Maybe it's not as disjointed now as it was back then. Maybe my experience was an anomaly. It's almost like sending a money order for your dream guitar priority mail only to get it back a week later because the post office ignored the huge 'send to' address and returned it to the microscopic 'from' address. That said I will use SS in the future because I'm already in their system and it will save me some driving. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 11:40:17 AM EDT
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I wish that the ATF would be more transparent in their process with the proscesses they are using right now. I have seen a ton of individuals come back but not any Trusts. Are they even through the pile o pre rue change submissions? It is almost like they have one person working on post 41f submissions by individuals and the rest are going through the pile? curious why they would take one person off for individual submissions. I have 4 post trust Form ones that had the checks cashed on 9/1/16. I have a form 4 that was Nov 1. Its not my first stuff, so Im not going crazy, but just hope it gets cleared up soon.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 3:55:18 PM EDT
[#21]
This was on Reddit...F1 individual submitted 4/3 and already approved.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 4:49:28 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By btm7687:
This was on Reddit...F1 individual submitted 4/3 and already approved. https://i.imgur.com/iVyRmdq.jpg 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:00:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m6z]
[#23]
Almost 2 months since Silencer Shop shows the form 3 was approved and my can still hasn't shipped to my dealer. WTF!
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USA
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:05:38 PM EDT
[#24]
That's such an atypical example however. Good to know, but this would be the first that far ahead, in fact the first beyond August 2016 that I am aware of - so people shouldn't take this as news theirs are due to drop anytime now.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:06:59 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nada-Nada:
That's such an atypical example however. Good to know, but this would be the first that far ahead, in fact the first beyond August 2016 that I am aware of - so people shouldn't take this as news theirs are due to drop anytime now. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:07:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBadGuy2:
Has anyone seen a single post 41 form 1 or form 4 TRUST approval?? I am not sure if I have seen a single one yet! I am seeing 2017 individual submissions coming back approved but I don't think I have seen any trust approvals. :( |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:25:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m6z:
Almost 2 months since Silencer Shop shows the form 3 was approved and my can still hasn't shipped to my dealer. WTF! |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:26:55 PM EDT
[#28]
I've still got one out from July of last year.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:35:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By btm7687:
Yes it's worth stating that it is the exception and not the norm, however, there have been a ton of individual forms from October/November/December getting approved. Individuals are moving way faster than trusts right now. And you're right about trusts. Those seem to coming back really slowly. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:43:26 AM EDT
[#30]
I'm definitely not complaining but just trying to give an update if others are in the same boat as me...
Just called NFA Branch again and talked to "Kathy." My F1 Individual is still pending from 08/24/16. I asked if it was pending for any specific reason as I'm not home to submit for a possible correction and told her I was deployed. She said no, it's pending because it hasn't been picked up yet by a reviewer. She said they are currently working on August 2016 submissions, but did mention it was odd that it hasn't been assigned a reviewer yet and to call back every week. Congrats to those who have received their stamps...I just hope I get mine before I redeploy back home! 90 days left. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 2:48:16 PM EDT
[#31]
I believe I spoke to Kathy as well yesterday. She also told me they were looking at Aug forms. I told her the only reason i was calling is that 2 of my Dec submissions had been approved and my Nov submissions are still pending. she very nicely told me that she was also confused about current approvals jumping all over the place--"and she works there".
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2017 3:19:23 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By btm7687:
This was on Reddit...F1 individual submitted 4/3 and already approved. https://i.imgur.com/iVyRmdq.jpg
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2017 3:20:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By abud:
I believe I spoke to Kathy as well yesterday. She also told me they were looking at Aug forms. I told her the only reason i was calling is that 2 of my Dec submissions had been approved and my Nov submissions are still pending. she very nicely told me that she was also confused about current approvals jumping all over the place--"and she works there". |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 11:59:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: stanprophet09]
[#34]
Originally Posted By FullAutoHound:
Mod edit...OK, here's the thread. All the whining and moaning can run free. Leave all the other threads to the facts around approvals. I want to fucking bitch about how I'm seeing guys from god damn November getting approvals and I've got one from September 28th I've yet to hear shit about. Cmon freaking ATF. This is such bullshit. I just got off the phone with them. Still pending. Feb 7 2017... Approved. 09 06 2017 |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2017 12:56:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stanprophet09:
Feb 7 2017... Approved 10 7 2017 |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2017 1:10:21 PM EDT
[#36]
The form dates coming back are all over the board... can't even get your hopes up. I saw the April return and i have a May 4th CC charge... but dang...I think a disgruntled employee just went Bat crap crazy and started throwing fist fulls of forms in the air on the way out thr door.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2017 1:38:53 PM EDT
[#37]
So this is just great...my Form 4 was approved and my local FFL received stamp today for a suppressor I ordered last November. F4 was submitted mid-December and just approved. My Form 1 from LAST August still hasn't been assigned a reviewer. WTF.
Good news is once I get home from Iraq in less than 90 days, I'll be able to finish my SBR AND have my suppressor :) |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2017 2:42:22 PM EDT
[#38]
I knew I should have done an individual form 4...seeing all these approvals for Oct/Nov/Dec and I'm still waiting on one from 10/8/16. I want my MG darn it!
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2017 3:01:40 PM EDT
[#39]
What in the hell is going on with F1 Trust?
Has anyone called and got a firm answer on what the hold up is. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 3:40:42 PM EDT
[#40]
I think those with trusts are being punished for the convenience that a trust used to bring.
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Posted: 9/7/2017 7:27:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/7/2017 8:09:20 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grimhollow:
I think those with trusts are being punished for the convenience that a trust used to bring. There is no other explanation for the wait times. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 9:11:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Had to edit my previous typo on the date. Put a 10 in for the current month.....
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Posted: 9/8/2017 10:58:47 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grimhollow:
I think those with trusts are being punished for the convenience that a trust used to bring. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:06:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joe_sun:
Yup, if NFA tracker is accurate, and I believe it is, a Form 1 trust hasn't been approved in going on 6 weeks. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:17:50 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RipGear:
It's almost as if the BATFE didn't have a plan for handling trusts post 41F. <- Sarcasm, I'm sure they didn't have a plan. Maybe they thought nobody would buy anything after 41F so they didn't need to figure out what to do with them. I think they shuffled the forms. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 10:53:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote History235 days.
I hate you
Day 251... 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2017 8:30:54 AM EDT
[#48]
I posted in the form 1 thread but figured I'd do it here too since you're on the topic.
Form 1 SBR - Trust Submitted 7/30/16 Approved 8/24/17 Got it in the mail yesterday, a total of 405 days. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 11:53:02 AM EDT
[#49]
Where do we complain about the forms people submit with errors? If there were no errors, things sure would be a little smoother for everyone.
Also, F the NFA 
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ID, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2017 12:08:55 PM EDT
[#50]
Not mine, posted on Facebook
Form 1 TRUST submitted 8/2/2016 Approved 8/24/2017 received 9/9/2017 That's the first F1 Trust I've seen in a while! |
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