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Originally Posted By Kuraki: Well it only took them a few days to get me the docusign, that's pretty quick considering I ordered the silencer from Griffin directly and I assume they had to coordinate to get the SN. I also got approval yesterday for my latest Form 1 SBR and that only took 12 days from submittal (probably only 5 days from receiving my prints). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kuraki: Well it only took them a few days to get me the docusign, that's pretty quick considering I ordered the silencer from Griffin directly and I assume they had to coordinate to get the SN. I also got approval yesterday for my latest Form 1 SBR and that only took 12 days from submittal (probably only 5 days from receiving my prints). How long ago was that? Originally Posted By aksahsalahs: Bought a Jolene thru Capitol Armory Thursday. First with them handling Form4, timeline so far below. 4-4-24 Purchased 4-5-24 Link to Setup account and upload fingerprints 4-5-24 DocuSign'd I'll update this post as I certify and such There goes my theory about them being backlogged. I guess I’ll call first thing Monday. |
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Ordered my first "to your door" suppressor from Griffin on 03/14, submitted picture and prints the next day.
signed the forms on 03/16, certified and submitted on 03/18. Approved on 03/27, did the 4473 on 03/28 Just got the CLEO notification email on 04/06. Purchased another one from Griffin on 04/02, and then after a few too many. I ordered an in stock suppressor from Capitol on 04/05. Signed the forms for both today, waiting for the ready to certify email. |
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For the guys who have gone through the whole process, how long does it normally take from completing the 4473 to shipping?
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Originally Posted By Jeepsnguns81: For the guys who have gone through the whole process, how long does it normally take from completing the 4473 to shipping? View Quote I had one day and then less than one day. the one I did on the 19th was next day. took me 5 mins to do the form, the shipped it off to sherif next day |
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Originally Posted By Jeepsnguns81: For the guys who have gone through the whole process, how long does it normally take from completing the 4473 to shipping? View Quote Shipping the can to you? I just got two delivered today. Approved 3/21 (Thursday) Received draft 4473 to sign and returned that night 3/21 (Thursday) CA sent 4473 to CLEO 3/25 (Monday) CLEO acceptance 3/28 (Thursday) Shipped* 4/5 (Friday) Arrived at my door 4/6 (Saturday) * Note, got shipping email on Wednesday 4/3, but it only showed label created on Monday 4/1. On 4/5, it showed handed off to UPS from the FL dealer. The shipping from CA in TX to the FL dealer isn’t shown, but apparently the can was already in FL when the 7 days was up. |
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Originally Posted By willi3d: Shipping the can to you? I just got two delivered today. Approved 3/21 (Thursday) Received draft 4473 to sign and returned that night 3/21 (Thursday) CA sent 4473 to CLEO 3/25 (Monday) CLEO acceptance 3/28 (Thursday) Shipped* 4/5 (Friday) Arrived at my door 4/6 (Saturday) * Note, got shipping email on Wednesday 4/3, but it only showed label created on Monday 4/1. On 4/5, it showed handed off to UPS from the FL dealer. The shipping from CA in TX to the FL dealer isn’t shown, but apparently the can was already in FL when the 7 days was up. View Quote Yes, the cans are staged with your local SOT. Once my local SOT ships my CA can to me, I get it the next day. The only issue is my local SOT is not exactly the most diligent in getting my can shipped which has been my only gripe with CA. The folks at the home office in TX are really great, though. |
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I wonder if the can(s) is shipped to the local dealer when the Form 4 is submitted?
My Eform was submitted on 4/2. I received approval on 4/3. Did the 4473 on 4/3 as well. Now I'm on the pending 4473 step. Maybe the approval beat the can getting to the local dealer. ETA: Before someone infers it, I'm not complaining at all, just trying to get familiar with the process as I see myself doing several more with CA |
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Need some guidance fellas, been out the game for a minutes
Im debating on what can to get, and Im stuck. I have 1 300BO (no subs) and everything else is 5.56 (shot & long barrel), 9mm, and .22LR. I was debating a multi cal can to handle 300, 5.56 and 9mm. For that, Id have to get some 300 subs and a new rail since my existing has my compensator half tucked in the rail, and its too narrow to fit a can. 2 of my 5.56 (11.3 and 12.3) have ASR flash hiders so that I can attach the SilencerCo blast shield. 9mm I have only 1 threaded barrel currently and no subs, so would have to get more barrels and ammo. Are there better options, given what I have, than just using the ASR attachment? I already know Im going to have to purchase more muzzle devices for whatever I get, but if I go ASR Im already in the good for 2. |
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Originally Posted By Jeepsnguns81: I wonder if the can(s) is shipped to the local dealer when the Form 4 is submitted? My Eform was submitted on 4/2. I received approval on 4/3. Did the 4473 on 4/3 as well. Now I'm on the pending 4473 step. Maybe the approval beat the can getting to the local dealer. ETA: Before someone infers it, I'm not complaining at all, just trying to get familiar with the process as I see myself doing several more with CA View Quote The 4473 process is going to take a week and a half to complete. More than enough time for the can to get from Texas to your in-state shop, if it isn’t already there. |
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Have any of you guys tried the NFA Review discount code lately? It worked on my last purchase a few weeks ago, but now says it's an invalid code for me.
The same discount code was in his latest video. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: How long ago was that? There goes my theory about them being backlogged. I guess I’ll call first thing Monday. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By Kuraki: Well it only took them a few days to get me the docusign, that's pretty quick considering I ordered the silencer from Griffin directly and I assume they had to coordinate to get the SN. I also got approval yesterday for my latest Form 1 SBR and that only took 12 days from submittal (probably only 5 days from receiving my prints). How long ago was that? Originally Posted By aksahsalahs: Bought a Jolene thru Capitol Armory Thursday. First with them handling Form4, timeline so far below. 4-4-24 Purchased 4-5-24 Link to Setup account and upload fingerprints 4-5-24 DocuSign'd I'll update this post as I certify and such There goes my theory about them being backlogged. I guess I’ll call first thing Monday. 3/27 - Ordered can from Griffin via Griffin's website 3/28 - Initial emails received from Cap Armory 4/1 - Completed CA instructions (create a profile etc) and mailed fingerprints, paid tax stamp 4/2 - Received package from Griffin (non-NFA items included with the suppressor purchase like the taper mount) 4/6 - Received email from CA to sign Form 4, completed same day 4/7 - Received email from CA to certify Form 4 submission, completed 4/8 11 days from order to submission, pretty damn efficient considering 2 weekends in there. |
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We can do form 3s with CA shipped to your door service?
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Yeah, I'm a little confused on that post. Especially as all that is just the preamble to the actual approval waiting dance.
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Tom Sawyer.
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: Yeah, I'm a little confused on that post. Especially as all that is just the preamble to the actual approval waiting dance. View Quote Mine? I've got 20+ stamps, I know what that ATF wait time is/can be. I didn't have any experience with the CA process, so I asked about it last page and answered someone likely in the same boat this page. |
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I sent CA an email about the delay from uploading fingerprints and getting the Docusign, somehow their system didn’t alert them my prints were uploaded. Got that taken care of and certified the form 4 this morning.
Quick and painless process and great customer service from CA. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: I sent CA an email about the delay from uploading fingerprints and getting the Docusign, somehow their system didn’t alert them my prints were uploaded. Got that taken care of and certified the form 4 this morning. Quick and painless process and great customer service from CA. View Quote |
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Regarding the shipping costs on it... we lose money in shipping alone. The hard costs are more than the shipping charge. It's 2x UPS shipment, plus certified mail at least once. Sometimes 2-3 times. We're trying to mitigate loss, not profit on that. Now we could charge MSRP and offer free shipping on select silencers, but we would need to do that phone. ;)
With the DocuSign and certify... there is a backlog, and we're working day and night to keep it manageable. There are a few things you can do to speed it up. 1) Make sure the profile is complete. That means a good picture, full trust, accurate information, etc. Problems in the profile will slow things down. (ie, your High School football picture from the yearbook is cool, but we can't use it for the ATF.) This includes the trust you upload (if applicable) is signed nad not missing pages. 2) Make sure the print cards are filled out properly and clearly. If we have to call to confirm info, it slows things down. 3) Check spam, promotions, etc folders if you're expecting something from us... and make sure you put your email address in correctly with the order. [email protected] may get delayed until we catch it on a bounce-back. 4) 9am and 4:30pm are the WORST times to call to certify. If you have to, you have to. We understand. Everyone else wants to certify at those times too. Mid afternoon usually is faster. |
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Earlier today I couldn't click even given control, either because of work IT policies or the fact my workstation is limited to Edge. Chrome on my personal laptop worked fine. Yes I know Edge basically Chrome. |
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Originally Posted By aksahsalahs: Bought a Jolene thru Capitol Armory Thursday. First with them handling Form4, timeline so far below. 4-4-24 Purchased 4-5-24 Link to Setup account and upload fingerprints 4-5-24 DocuSign'd I'll update this post as I certify and such View Quote I got this certified today. 4-7-24 email to certify, CA Closed 4-8-24 certified, took about 15 minutes on hold and about 5 minutes with the agent. |
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Originally Posted By monkeypunch: My Jolene showed up today!! Found our CAs local FFL is like 5 miles from my house. (Can I just pick it up there next time?? UPS scares me!) My scale says the Jolene is 11.78oz. Can't wait to compare it to my Nomad L on the 6 Creedmoor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272212/1000005929-3183451.jpg View Quote Noice! Is there a listing of their local dealers? |
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“ Well, it feels like someone took a rubber band and snapped it right on the edge of your anus.” -JThompson
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Damn you all who guilted me about shipping I just picked up an Oculus. Pumped to see what everyone is talking about and see just how slick the to the door process is. Thanks CA!
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“ Well, it feels like someone took a rubber band and snapped it right on the edge of your anus.” -JThompson
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I just did a thread outlining each step "Let The Wait Begin". Short story is 25 days from order to delivery, 7 days alone was waiting on the CLEO notification. I responded to each email within 1 day as did they, so other than weekends and Easter Holiday, there was no time wasted.
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Originally Posted By cardboardkiller: It’s on the Form 4 also. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cardboardkiller: Originally Posted By Sierra5: Ah cool, thanks It’s on the Form 4 also. Box 3a to be exact. FWIW. I contacted CS last year and asked about that since the dealer in my state is only 3 hours north. I was told the dealer in my state doesn’t have a storefront or something to that effect. Not sure if it’s different in other states or not. |
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I'm guessing they are swamped right now, but it's been 4 days since I docusigned the forms, and still waiting for the ready to certify email. My last one it came the next day after signing everything.
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Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: I'm guessing they are swamped right now, but it's been 4 days since I docusigned the forms, and still waiting for the ready to certify email. My last one it came the next day after signing everything. View Quote I uploaded prints and was waiting on the Docusign email and hadn’t heard anything for a few days so I emailed them. They told me the automated process that is supposed to alert them I completed the previous step of uploading prints hadn’t and they would have their IT team look into it. I’m sure they are swamped but you may be having a similar issue, no sense waiting indefinitely. Reach out to them via email, I got a response within an hour or two (on a Saturday night no less). |
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Got a shipping email 4/7, 7 day wait over on 4/8, tracking still shows nothing 4/10.
Hoping it ships today and gets here Friday. |
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3/27 - Ordered can from Griffin via Griffin's website
3/28 - Initial emails received from Cap Armory 4/1 - Completed CA instructions (create a profile etc) and mailed fingerprints, paid tax stamp 4/2 - Received package from Griffin (non-NFA items included with the suppressor purchase like the taper mount) 4/6 - Received email from CA to sign Form 4, completed same day 4/7 - Received email from CA to certify Form 4 submission, completed 4/8 4/10 - Form 4 approved and 4473 submitted |
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Originally Posted By Glocked: Box 3a to be exact. FWIW. I contacted CS last year and asked about that since the dealer in my state is only 3 hours north. I was told the dealer in my state doesn’t have a storefront or something to that effect. Not sure if it’s different in other states or not. View Quote I walked a buddy of mine in Arkansas through the whole process with CA. While messing around talking to him one night I looked up the Arkansas dealer and it was at a house, if Google maps are to be believed. The one here in Florida is at a house also. |
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Originally Posted By cardboardkiller: I walked a buddy of mine in Arkansas through the whole process with CA. While messing around talking to him one night I looked up the Arkansas dealer and it was at a house, if Google maps are to be believed. The one here in Florida is at a house also. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cardboardkiller: Originally Posted By Glocked: Box 3a to be exact. FWIW. I contacted CS last year and asked about that since the dealer in my state is only 3 hours north. I was told the dealer in my state doesn’t have a storefront or something to that effect. Not sure if it’s different in other states or not. I walked a buddy of mine in Arkansas through the whole process with CA. While messing around talking to him one night I looked up the Arkansas dealer and it was at a house, if Google maps are to be believed. The one here in Florida is at a house also. Kolorado seems to be a well known member here who’s an FFL/gunsmith with a shop but probably also not really setup for F2F transactions. Given how much faster this is than the old way I’m fine with waiting but might not turn down the chance to save myself a couple weeks and CA some shipping money if that became an option. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: I uploaded prints and was waiting on the Docusign email and hadn’t heard anything for a few days so I emailed them. They told me the automated process that is supposed to alert them I completed the previous step of uploading prints hadn’t and they would have their IT team look into it. I’m sure they are swamped but you may be having a similar issue, no sense waiting indefinitely. Reach out to them via email, I got a response within an hour or two (on a Saturday night no less). View Quote I emailed them today. Got a response that there was an issue with my finger print file (same one that was used last time) and that they had fixed it. Said I should receive the ready to certify email today. Hoping it shows up before close of business. |
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Just received my Polonium. Was a paper file from last July. Don't have exact dates and times from the recent communications from CA, Cheif LEO notification etc, however this is my second can from CA (First was a SurgeX efiled that cleared in a couple days). I'll use them for here on out as I decide on other future purchases. Can't say enough how pleased I am with their entire process. Thanks much!
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Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: I emailed them today. Got a response that there was an issue with my finger print file (same one that was used last time) and that they had fixed it. Said I should receive the ready to certify email today. Hoping it shows up before close of business. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: Originally Posted By Mblades: I uploaded prints and was waiting on the Docusign email and hadn’t heard anything for a few days so I emailed them. They told me the automated process that is supposed to alert them I completed the previous step of uploading prints hadn’t and they would have their IT team look into it. I’m sure they are swamped but you may be having a similar issue, no sense waiting indefinitely. Reach out to them via email, I got a response within an hour or two (on a Saturday night no less). I emailed them today. Got a response that there was an issue with my finger print file (same one that was used last time) and that they had fixed it. Said I should receive the ready to certify email today. Hoping it shows up before close of business. Nice! Their CS team is great. |
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Originally Posted By aksahsalahs: I got this certified today. 4-7-24 email to certify, CA Closed 4-8-24 certified, took about 15 minutes on hold and about 5 minutes with the agent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By aksahsalahs: Originally Posted By aksahsalahs: Bought a Jolene thru Capitol Armory Thursday. First with them handling Form4, timeline so far below. 4-4-24 Purchased 4-5-24 Link to Setup account and upload fingerprints 4-5-24 DocuSign'd I'll update this post as I certify and such I got this certified today. 4-7-24 email to certify, CA Closed 4-8-24 certified, took about 15 minutes on hold and about 5 minutes with the agent. The Jolene was approved today, and 4473 completed |
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I certified on Monday.
Took about 5 days from purchase to cert. There were 16 in line when I called. Who knows how long till approval. |
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Been stuck on CLEO part coming up on 3 weeks soon
What happens if the CLEO just lets the notification sit at the post office or refuses it? Knowing the sheriff, that’s likely what has happened. |
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Originally Posted By Xerith: Been stuck on CLEO part coming up on 3 weeks soon What happens if the CLEO just lets the notification sit at the post office or refuses it? Knowing the sheriff, that’s likely what has happened. View Quote i think this is what happened to me a few months ago. they had to resend it to CLEO again before they could ship. added another week+ but whatever, you’ve already waited, another week or two isn’t much. yeah, it’s annoying, but they make the process simple, so i let it go (it’s not CA’s fault). |
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Originally Posted By swolliepop: i think this is what happened to me a few months ago. they had to resend it to CLEO again before they could ship. added another week+ but whatever, you've already waited, another week or two isn't much. yeah, it's annoying, but they make the process simple, so i let it go (it's not CA's fault). View Quote |
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What I still don't understand is how the CLEO part delays anything? When I build a Form 1 can/sbr/sbs etc, I just drop off a copy of my Form 1 at the Sheriff's office.
In this circumstance, is the CLEO supposed to respond to CA? Acknowledging receipt or something? I know the Sheriff well enough I'd tell him what to expect but I don't know what he should expect. ETA: Not even my first mail order can My first Form 4s were in 2007 and done by mail. One day my suppressors and approved forms just showed up at my door. I don't remember anything to do with a 4473 (though at that time I had to and did get a CLEO signature on the form 4s). |
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Originally Posted By Kuraki: What I still don't understand is how the CLEO part delays anything? When I build a Form 1 can/sbr/sbs etc, I just drop off a copy of my Form 1 at the Sheriff's office. In this circumstance, is the CLEO supposed to respond to CA? Acknowledging receipt or something? I know the Sheriff well enough I'd tell him what to expect but I don't know what he should expect. ETA: Not even my first mail order can My first Form 4s were in 2007 and done by mail. One day my suppressors and approved forms just showed up at my door. I don't remember anything to do with a 4473 (though at that time I had to and did get a CLEO signature on the form 4s). View Quote This is different from the CLEO notice. Because its a "non over the counter 4473" Per the regs a copy of the 4473 has to be sent to the CLEO, they have to acknowledge that they received it, and a mandatory 7 day wait is required. |
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Originally Posted By networkguru: I certified on Monday. Took about 5 days from purchase to cert. There were 16 in line when I called. Who knows how long till approval. View Quote Just got my approval email. So approx 72 hours from cert to approval. The 7 day CLEO step is a little puzzling. I have done a few Form 1's and those were just letters. My other suppressors were paper form4's and I picked them up after LGS informed me they received approval paperwork. That was with trusts. This is my first individual. Did ATF change the CLEO process once eform4's were allowed? |
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Originally Posted By aksahsalahs: This is different from the CLEO notice. Because its a "non over the counter 4473" Per the regs a copy of the 4473 has to be sent to the CLEO, they have to acknowledge that they received it, and a mandatory 7 day wait is required. View Quote Ah thank you for the clarification. |
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Not CA related, but I didnt want to start a new thread, so figured Id ask here since its got traffic.
Are eForm 1s for SBR being approved as quickly as eForm 4s currently? Or is it just the 4s? |
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Originally Posted By StarCityShooter: Not CA related, but I didnt want to start a new thread, so figured Id ask here since its got traffic. Are eForm 1s for SBR being approved as quickly as eForm 4s currently? Or is it just the 4s? View Quote For me, as an individual, yes, or nearly so. (F4 in 2 days vs F1 in 3 from receipt of fingerprint cards) For my friend with a trust (that already owns other NFA items, so not new) filing on the same exact day, no. Significantly longer. |
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Originally Posted By Kuraki: For me, as an individual, yes, or nearly so. (F4 in 2 days vs F1 in 3 from receipt of fingerprint cards) For my friend with a trust (that already owns other NFA items, so not new) filing on the same exact day, no. Significantly longer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kuraki: Originally Posted By StarCityShooter: Not CA related, but I didnt want to start a new thread, so figured Id ask here since its got traffic. Are eForm 1s for SBR being approved as quickly as eForm 4s currently? Or is it just the 4s? For me, as an individual, yes, or nearly so. (F4 in 2 days vs F1 in 3 from receipt of fingerprint cards) For my friend with a trust (that already owns other NFA items, so not new) filing on the same exact day, no. Significantly longer. Thanks! Im going to do them individual to stay in the "fast" lane |
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Originally Posted By StarCityShooter: Thanks! Im going to do them individual to stay in the "fast" lane View Quote Yeah I haven't used my trust since 41p. Not that I begrudge anyone else for it, just no point for me personally since the vast majority of my NFA stuff is Form 1 with little to no value. |
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My Obsidian 9 was delivered today.
Looks like 3/7 to 4/11 total time. Not too bad. Also shoutout to CA CS. I emailed asking if I could pay for one of the "oven mits" and have it added to my shipment, they threw it in no charge. |
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