Originally Posted By zentradi:
This thread reminded me I needed to go out and shoot my amazing Sierra 5 can with its superior cobalt steel baffles produced by the industry-leading company, Dead Air.    This suppressor is amazing in sound performance and flash-hiding performance despite being smaller than other cans it outperforms.  

The knurling in the well-thought-out design goes hand in hand with the best mount in the industry, the Xeno, and we enjoyed emptying the magazine with no gas to the face at all.    That's pretty awesome considering I was running a non-regulated gasblock that cycles properly whether or not the high-performing Sierra 5 suppressor is attached.    

We did take the high-performance Sierra 5 off and after putting ear-pro on fired several rounds of the short-barreled rifle, rattling the land with concussion and reminding everyone just how efficient a newer design like the Sierra 5 is.    My ear pro, of course, was quickly removed once the rifle was resuppressed.  
Of course, swapping out a thoughtfully designed can like the S5 with its knurling was easy because the texture of the knurling allowed the oven mit to still grasp the can and easily remove it from the industry-leading Xeno mount.  

Did fire some rounds through the other top-of-line can, the AB A10 which will likely become commonly appreciated as BOGO approvals roll in for new owners.    The A10 of course uses the modern industry standard HUB thread which allowed it to use the elite Xeno mounting system and was quickly and solidly attached to the Xeno mount.   I am looking forward to other friends having their A10's approved and think the AB A10 which dominated almost all of the silencer summit will be a very popular can this year.      

The Sierra 5 continued to perform after being reattached and the morning was pleasantly suppressed.     I again thank Dead Air for their design, build and timely customer service response to my questions when they come up (about other products too).   I'm looking forward to my approval for the phenomenal next generation Dead Air Mojave, and genuinely feel bad for people who swore off the industry leader as I am very much so looking forward to putting thousands and thousands of rounds through the Mojave.    Very happy that Dead Air is better than ever, and also hoping the .45 Mojave becomes a reality, not that I don't already love my Dead Air .45 cans.   Keep up the good work, you are appreciated!  

Originally Posted By zentradi:Did fire some rounds through the other top-of-line can, the AB A10 which will likely become commonly appreciated as BOGO approvals roll in for new owners.    The A10 of course uses the modern industry standard HUB thread which allowed it to use the elite Xeno mounting system and was quickly and solidly attached to the Xeno mount.   I am looking forward to other friends having their A10's approved and think the AB A10 which dominated almost all of the silencer summit will be a very popular can this year.

Originally Posted By hoody2shoez:

...this has to be a bot account...

Originally Posted By Mindfull:


I was seriously looking to pick up a Sierra 5 and started going through this thread to see what people were saying about the current issues. It sounds like DA has fixed the problems according to some posts here and is actively fixing silencers with issues, but seeing that guys over the top shilling posts and consistent wording of amazing, superior, industry-leading, best, high-performance, phenomenal, better than ever, is obviously over the top and down right ridiculous.
Its a huge turn off to potential buyers and is doing DA a disservice. If that guy is a DA employee, he is actively causing buyers to pass on purchasing DA products and DA should fire him or send him to marketing school and if he isn't a DA employee, hes got to be employed by a competitor. I guess another scenario is that he's so invested in DA products that he has to post over the top comments to help justify his purchases in what was obviously a flawed and almost dangerous manufacturing error in the original design or assembly process. I don't know which one since DA refuses to even address the issues.

Originally Posted By zentradi:
For the benefit of the moderator, I am not an employee or in any way connected to the industry-leading suppressor manufacturer Dead Air, other than as a consumer of the finest products available.

I was in a position to buy the best suppressors and accessories on the market, so I bought them and it just happened that many of the best suppressors out there happened to be made by Dead Air which is pursuing new technologies and creating the next generation of silencers, including the already epic Mojave 9.   I like the idea of moving forward instead of slurping "member berries" and pleasantly enjoying the best silencers available, and if they weren't the best, I wouldn't have bought them.  

So, to the benefit of our moderator who may review allegations I work in the silencer industry I don't, my only connection to Dead Air was I wanted the best silencers available and they make many of them. I find the designs very considerately engineered to the benefit of the user and the sound performance excellent.

I am not at all sorry that I'm not a miserable person who is unhappy with what I own. Every day is a good day to be happy.  

Originally Posted By zentradi:
One trick ponies don't know a second trick.

Originally Posted By Wangstang:


+1

I'll add that the ignore function on this site is something I rarely use, but it is there.

Originally Posted By zentradi:
For the benefit of the moderator, I am not an employee or in any way connected to the industry-leading suppressor manufacturer Dead Air, other than as a consumer of the finest products available.

I was in a position to buy the best suppressors and accessories on the market, so I bought them and it just happened that many of the best suppressors out there happened to be made by Dead Air which is pursuing new technologies and creating the next generation of silencers, including the already epic Mojave 9.   I like the idea of moving forward instead of slurping "member berries" and pleasantly enjoying the best silencers available, and if they weren't the best, I wouldn't have bought them.  

So, to the benefit of our moderator who may review allegations I work in the silencer industry I don't, my only connection to Dead Air was I wanted the best silencers available and they make many of them. I find the designs very considerately engineered to the benefit of the user and the sound performance excellent.

I am not at all sorry that I'm not a miserable person who is unhappy with what I own. Every day is a good day to be happy.  

Originally Posted By Norinco982lover:


I didn't reach out to CS, I just filled out the RMA on their website and sent the can in with the reason of "please upgrade my baffles" or something like that.

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


Welp, I called, & was told 1.5% of total production was affected, owed to bad welds, but the effected serial # range is unknown. I gave my serial # & was assured mine isn't affected. So I'm down to shoot, wait, & see what happens.

Originally Posted By JTX23:

I'm confused.  The impacted serial numbers are unknown but given your serial number they can assure you that your suppressor was not impacted?  

I guess if you have a more recent production suppressor it is  plausible but still seems like a red flag.

Unfortunately, that doesn't explain the baffle change which is equally concerning.

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


Welp, I called, & was told 1.5% of total production was affected, owed to bad welds, but the effected serial # range is unknown. I gave my serial # & was assured mine isn't affected. So I'm down to shoot, wait, & see what happens.

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


Earlier production (under 700).

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


Site staff should contact DA about advertising without paying. L

Calling someone miserable for expecting a company to be accountable for its products is more of the usual pathetic sycophantic huksterism from the usual suspect. Note that the miserable deplorables in this thread aren't idiotically shooting without hearing protection, can or no can.

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Usual hyperbole, Hukster likes to say that the S5 is low back pressure, even though it's demonstrably not (skip to 2:30):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qNlPcQAI8E

Compare to an actual reduced flow engineered can (skip to 4:45):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH2OmUZK7eQ

Sorry your can lost, Huk.

I'm getting the KAC can.



Superior cobalt baffles are characterized by breakage &/or crumbling when subjected to light use. Just so you know.

Originally Posted By Captain92:

It's like tiny bits of info are being slowly let out, as well as everyone who contacts them seems to get different/inconsistent info; some got an RMA for preemptive repairs to brand new cans, I was told 'chute 'em (which I do, no problem with that). I don't wish any ill will against them, but their response to loyal customers was 100% low-rent, souring a lot of us, although as we have hashed over here, they obviously don't care. What seemed to be a fully transparent company that loved interacting with their customers, took a 180 with the Sierra. It is what it is. I do hate Todd took his ball and left the forum as I always enjoyed reading his posts and what he had to say.

Originally Posted By 1168RGR:

I’m not giving that dude any clicks, but yes, the S5 is a traditional, albeit short, can that I would not describe as “low backpressure”.

As for Todd leaving arfcom, I wish he hadn’t, but I don’t think it was his choice. As an observer, it looks to me that the company he works for was screwing him by forcing him to defend his work as the sole overt employee here, while the company simultaneously resisted paying for an industry account on a site that they clearly enjoy for discussion of their products. Industry accounts do more than fund the website. They enhance the user experience by declaring an interest at the beginning of every post, and also lets us know that they may know what they’re talking about.

Originally Posted By bully13:


There's still a DA guy that posts occasionally.  Silentmike maybe? And agreed on the industry accounts

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


Earlier production (under 700).

Originally Posted By 1168RGR:I’m not giving that dude any clicks, but yes, the S5 is a traditional, albeit short, can that I would not describe as “low backpressure”.

Originally Posted By DDS87:

Interesting, what do you have against Sol at Rooftop Defense?

Originally Posted By 1168RGR:

Absolutely nothing. But in the thumbnail I can see on my phone I didn’t know who it was. Still, if he said the S5 is a “low backpressure silencer”, well, I disagree with that. And I don’t mean that in a negative way. Its a traditional baffle system and isn’t less gassy than comparable cans.

I didn’t intend to be a dick towards anyone; I conveyed my point poorly, and revealed my baseline distrust of guntubers.

Originally Posted By DDS87:

Got ya, I can see by Master_Blaster's post how it seemed that way. M_B was referring to our token Dead Air fanatic, who might be the only one here who would try to claim the S5 as "low backpressure." I understand a certain level of baseline distrust, I carry that towards any medium of communication until proven otherwise. Sol's suppressor reviews/demos are fantastic IMO. He has a good method of directly comparing back pressure and flash, which is becoming more common but is still relatively rare.

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


Sorry, should've been more clear. I meant that my serial # is below 700.

Originally Posted By waddlingweezol:


Ah gotcha. Well regardless if you told them your serial # was below 700, and they assured you that yours was good to go.. then my BS meter would still be going off.

The combination of not knowing what serial # range had issues + the design/material change for RMAs, but at the same time knowing certain serial numbers weren't affected is a mess. There's just too much contradictions.

Originally Posted By Green0:


Yeah it shows how durable it is, and that's not in a separate world from the original model.  What he's doing is of course beyond what is required for duty use by law enforcement. When he picks up the unit it is visible that the blast baffle is visibly trashed, and the tube housing failure is catastrophic. The high cyclic rate is indicative of very high backpressure.  The flash signature also shows the flash hider doesn't perform amazing when the can is hot.

We ran an HRT 17 magazines on a 13.7".  It's not apples to oranges, but it ran nicely, and that was the most abusive test I've ever run on an AR.  A Nato partner put an HRT through 10 cycles of 6, 30 rd mags on full auto M193 on an HK416 11" gun, and it didn't catastrophically fail.  The can was intact after the 10 cycles, but the cerakote had baked off, and that's the only Cerakote failure from temperature I've ever seen.

Originally Posted By DDS87:
I don't think this is necessarily an indictment against the design (and I think this was one of the first), but it is kind of amusing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXQL2hKmYpM

Originally Posted By waddlingweezol:


I can tell you right now they lied if they said under 700. Mine was in the 1000s and crapped out in under 50 rounds.

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Conversely, the RC3 became glowing red, while KAC barely showed visible heat signature, with the S5 heating somewhat brighter than the Knights can, but not like the Surefire.

Originally Posted By DMG-LDS:



where do the S/N start?

Mine is SR503***

Originally Posted By Green0:


I think its also a function of tube thickness.  Inconel tubes are often .035” and that’s really thin.  No mass equals super rapid temperature change. The RC3 is a tube within a tube, it probably has .07” or .08 wall total, so it has all the weight without the visual signature advantage when it comes to temperature, because the walls aren’t in contact and hot gas is flowing between the two walls, but the walls are also probably cooling gas to lower flash signature, so thats a means of achieving an advantage at low operating temperature.

The cerakote that I was talking about failing was the C series high temp, and it requires about 1900F-2000F to fail.

Originally Posted By 1168RGR:

How? Honda appears to not only know exactly which 245 (which would have to go off exact VINs) 2023’s could be affected, how, and why, but also has issued a public recall. Aren’t they kinda known for RCA when there’s this exact type of problem, or am I thinking of someone else?