I would assume Radical Firearms.  The reality of that testing event was that some of the products that showed up like the Raptor that did so well were prototypes that were longer than the production models, so that was one small way that some of the data is confusing, though not really intended by TBAC.  So maybe if people can't confirm the numbers on a can, it might be because that can was a prototype.  Another way would be if the RF can was a standard can and the people talking were spreading misinformation.

We also didn't bring a BW .46, but one was tested in some non-std config and really tested poorly, and that was not good data because the G2 can is actually one of the better .46 cans on the market and when cans can just show up from who knows who, that leaves room for shit to be tailored to fuck with companies.  Contrary to the good nature of people there are some hacks in this industry that have low moral character, and at times nefarious intent.  

We didn't bring any cans that weren't ours, and if we had some reason to, we would make damn sure they were decent examples of those products, in standard market sold configurations.  


One of the more ludicrous arguments used to cast aspersions on TBAC's Silence Summit was that it was like a closed door event among friends.  Whoever suggested that really doesn't understand the suppressor industry.  

I haven't really seen much "friendly behavior" myself.  I think the reality is they brought together a bunch of market competitors to test stuff in one place at one time.  That eliminated environmental and equipment variables by establishing a control set of equipment and a controlled atmospheric environment for the testing.

I said may have been a prototype.  The AB Raptor was non std- not sold configuration.  That helps people to know that other cans may not have been std.  

I don’t really understand the BW result other than to say it performed well below where it should.  I believe it was on a not included direct thread mount that adds length to the blast baffle instead of the included taper mount ez brake/plan A. In .45-70 that might allow gas to get in front of the bullet and leave the can without interacting with baffles?  The can could have been in a poor state of maintenance or damaged or or the original generation- not current- who knows what.  I wasn’t there to figure it out.

The recommendation was to bring 2 cans.  I think we brought 6, so we were pushing the limit so the fact we didn’t bring an entire line was in the interest of not bogging the whole event to a point of disfunction.

I don’t really share the opinion that Jay had to be invited to be an open event for industry manufacturers.  Jay isn’t a manufacturer.  His work has largely upset the industry methods of testing and has created a lot of work for everyone.  There isn’t a very efficient process for doing the new testing, and it is harder to consume for both manufacturers and consumers.

I don’t look forward to testing anymore.  Its more like a dental cleaning to run a suppressor test. The process has become slow and painful and full of conflicting data due to the many types of data presented. We don’t get to data quickly.  The test that formerly took two minutes now takes a half hour or more to process the slides and get to the comprehensive data.  That’s additional time during development cycles and it detracts from other design and manufacturing objectives that all operate on a clock.

Meter a can that sounds better to people and see that it has better A sound, but possibly worse Z sound, and you see a better can looking more like possibly equivalent to a can it sounds better than, on a new standard.

Its like measuring objects designed in inches with metric tools, and saying the designs are odd because everything doesn’t logically correspond to logical increments in metric units.

If you look at a pulse analyzer and realize 365 is required for excel, a laptop, wifi or internet connectivity, you realize the pulse belongs indoors. Take it to a field and you may have microsoft issues or need an update to windows or pulse labshop, or firmware and or the license, or authentication of excel from the internet.  God forbid it rains on the laptop or the $34,000 of equipment, it just doesn’t belong outdoors.

Even before that, atmospheric wind could create issues like erroneous measurements in the 118DB range.  Humidity condensing can cripple the microphone performance. So there are a lot of reasons to test in a controlled environment.